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Not every micro usb cord is built the same...

Ive been using my OEM charger cord untill the other day it fell off my desk while charging and bent the tip. I started using another cheap 99 cent ebay cord with a blackberry logo on it and it seems like my phones never charged slower. So I installed current widget and it seems to be charging at 280MA while the OEM cord charges at 380MA. Does anyone know where I can get a new cord that charges just as good as the OEM one for cheap?

Amazon has the HTC cord identical to the one that comes with the phone for like $6. My phone charges at around 800ma with the screen off. I suggest spending the extra $5.

skittlesV1 said:
Ive been using my OEM charger cord untill the other day it fell off my desk while charging and bent the tip. I started using another cheap 99 cent ebay cord with a blackberry logo on it and it seems like my phones never charged slower. So I installed current widget and it seems to be charging at 280MA while the OEM cord charges at 380MA. Does anyone know where I can get a new cord that charges just as good as the OEM one for cheap?
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FWIW, it might be worth mentioning that your battery will actually last longer if you charge it with lower amperage. The downside to this, is that it will also take longer to charge.
In fact, your battery's overall life expectancy will also be longer using lower amperage charging.
Just thought I'd mention it.
--Chris

jdbiggles said:
Amazon has the HTC cord identical to the one that comes with the phone for like $6. My phone charges at around 800ma with the screen off. I suggest spending the extra $5.
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Do you have the link to this still? im having a hard time finding it

i am about to try a few from monoprice.com
too cheap not to try

You can buy the original charger, and cord off ebay from a guy for 10$ shipped..when i bought mine, he had 10 left.

nolig2278 said:
i am about to try a few from monoprice.com
too cheap not to try
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I use monoprice cables. Seems to work fine, although, I never tested charge speed.

did you guys get the USB charge cable with your EVO? I never got one. All I have is AC charge cable, and using my wife's moment USB Charge Cable, and works fine.

Typical Micro USB cables (like those from monoprice.com, awesome btw) don't charge my for-work Blackberry Curve.
Go figure. I hate Blackberries.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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potna said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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I'm doing this now, charging my phone from my car charger that accepts USB cables. It charges REALLY slow however, I'll check to see at what amperage.

potna said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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No reason to correct you - you are absolutely correct on all counts.
--Chris

HTC Sprint EVO 4G KiDiGi 2nd Battery USB Charger Cradle

Found this while browsing Ebay for batteries. Can charge both your phone with battery in it and a spare battery at the same time. Pretty slick and at only $20 not a bad price either. Might be worth it.http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Sprint-EVO-4G-KiDiGi-2nd-Battery-USB-Charger-Cradle-/140478601582?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20b52d596e#ht_2155wt_1139

Looks pretty nice. Post some pics and a review when you get it.
I am interested if it can charge BOTH with only the DC cord or if it needs DC and USB to do both.

Sweet.. didnt know there was anything like this. Thanks for sharing info.

most def. report back bro

Does it only charge 1500mah
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Bielinsk said:
Looks pretty nice. Post some pics and a review when you get it.
I am interested if it can charge BOTH with only the DC cord or if it needs DC and USB to do both.
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mroneeyedboh said:
most def. report back bro
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I didn't buy it. I was just checking it out. I was kinda hoping someone here would have it and report their experience with it. If anyone has one of these please report on it, because if the Evo will fit with an extended case and if it will charge a 3500mah battery I will definitely buy it.
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Does it only charge 1500mah
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Looks like in the pictures it might only charge 1500mah. It would be nice if it charge extended batteries too. Maybe someone will chime in on this that has something similar to charge extendeds with and fits the Evo with an extended battery cover on it.
I am going to email the seller about whether or not it will charge bigger batteries. I'll report back when I get a reply.

This one does http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-BATTERY-CHA...Accessories&hash=item588bd5961f#ht_1644wt_952

Thats what I call a MUST GET
THANKS BUDDY

**** ok if someone wants me to buy one let me know.. I'll buy the ***** haha IDC.
here is one with better pictures of the first charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Charger...655316?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item41535fb494
but yeah I dont think the first OP's charge dock will support the extended battery. It goes up too high on the back .

Bielinsk said:
Looks pretty nice. Post some pics and a review when you get it.
I am interested if it can charge BOTH with only the DC cord or if it needs DC and USB to do both.
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I bought this cradle and am disappointed in it. The phone only charges through USB, so it does me no good when I turn my computer off at night.
Also, the USB connection itself is funky, which might just be a problem with my unit. I don't think I've ever gotten HTC Sync to connect through the cradle. Charging and disk drive mode work, but to sync, I have to plug the cable directly into the phone.
I hate that I blew $20 on it, but am about to pull the trigger on the other one mentioned anyway, and hope that it really does charge both with both cables. I had one cradle that bled AC back through the USB cable which kept my fans and keyboard lights on, so I had to unplug the AC at night.

JimSmith94 said:
I bought this cradle and am disappointed in it. The phone only charges through USB, so it does me no good when I turn my computer off at night.
Also, the USB connection itself is funky, which might just be a problem with my unit. I don't think I've ever gotten HTC Sync to connect through the cradle. Charging and disk drive mode work, but to sync, I have to plug the cable directly into the phone.
I hate that I blew $20 on it, but am about to pull the trigger on the other one mentioned anyway, and hope that it really does charge both with both cables. I had one cradle that bled AC back through the USB cable which kept my fans and keyboard lights on, so I had to unplug the AC at night.
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you biought the dock in the OP?

JimSmith94 said:
I bought this cradle and am disappointed in it. The phone only charges through USB, so it does me no good when I turn my computer off at night.
Also, the USB connection itself is funky, which might just be a problem with my unit. I don't think I've ever gotten HTC Sync to connect through the cradle. Charging and disk drive mode work, but to sync, I have to plug the cable directly into the phone.
I hate that I blew $20 on it, but am about to pull the trigger on the other one mentioned anyway, and hope that it really does charge both with both cables. I had one cradle that bled AC back through the USB cable which kept my fans and keyboard lights on, so I had to unplug the AC at night.
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Thanks for letting us know. I guess it is a good idea, just some design flaws. I am seriously thinking about getting the other one posted in this thread. It looks like it might do what I was hoping the one in the OP did.

deolarte said:
This one does http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-BATTERY-CHA...Accessories&hash=item588bd5961f#ht_1644wt_952
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I've got this one and before anyone jumps on it, know that unlike some of the other similar looking cradles that charges both the phone and the battery from one power source, this one has the battery charger and the phone charger on seperate circuits, so you need to plug one in to the wall and...well the other one also in to the wall the cable that goes in to the mini usb in the back goes to the phone and the one thats built in goes to the wall

mroneeyedboh said:
you biought the dock in the OP?
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Yes, that's the one.
lacrossev said:
I've got this one and before anyone jumps on it, know that unlike some of the other similar looking cradles that charges both the phone and the battery from one power source, this one has the battery charger and the phone charger on seperate circuits, so you need to plug one in to the wall and...well the other one also in to the wall the cable that goes in to the mini usb in the back goes to the phone and the one thats built in goes to the wall
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I just ordered this one because deolarte suggested that it would charge the phone and the battery from either AC or USB. Are you saying that yours doesn't?

Just to let you guys know I got an email back from the seller of the one I originally posted. I asked them if it charged extended batteries and if the phone would fit in it with an extended battery cover on it. Here is their reply:
Dear ryhouse23,
Hi,
Thank you for your email.
We are sorry, this unit is NOT compatible with extended battery, it ONLY work the standard battery.
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Looks like this one is only good if you are using 1500mAh. Sorry guys I thought it looked nice and probably is if you don't use extended batteries, which are pretty much a must with the Evo.

Damn Ohwell. Thanks for checking as an extended battery is in my near future.

JimSmith94 said:
Yes, that's the one.
I just ordered this one because deolarte suggested that it would charge the phone and the battery from either AC or USB. Are you saying that yours doesn't?
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That is correct, the ebay one, unless its a totally different one internally but looks the same on the outside, does NOT charge both from one source, each requires their own power

lacrossev said:
That is correct, the ebay one, unless its a totally different one internally but looks the same on the outside, does NOT charge both from one source, each requires their own power
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Well that bites the big one! All of my cradles dating back to the HTC Apache charged both with either cable. The only problem I had with a couple was voltage bleed through from the AC to the USB, as I stated earlier. It's such a simple circuit, why did they stop using it?!?
Now I'll be stuck with two cradles and still have no way to charge my phone when I turn my computer off, unless I plug into the AC charger directly.

[Q] Dodgy phone or dodgy car charger?

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone else had a similar problem..
Everytime I connect a car charger, it charges for a second then disconnects itself, the charger is still plugged in, and the engine is running. The red light on the charger is on too. I'm not saying this is a ROM problem or anything at all, but its the second charger I've had that does this, I don't suppose anybody knows a fix if it happens on other devices too?

Is this an official HTC charger?
I know it sounds silly, but most cheap unbranded car chargers cause all sorts of problems. It's usually that they don't short the two data pins, so that the phone thinks it's plugged into a PC. It will then only charge at half rate (500mA) in line with usb standards.
Also, the charger may not even be able to handle a 500mA output, which would suggest why your phones sees the charger, measures the output, sees it as insufficient, and stops the charging. Is there a sticker on the charger starting current output? They can still be misleading though.
An official HTC car charger (just like the mains wall charger) will have it's data pins sorted out. The phone will detect this, and switch to mains charging mode, and draw the full 1000mA. You may have noticed that your phone will charge twice as fast off a mains wall charger than it will from being plugged into a computers usb port.
Trust me I've thrown out about 3 of the cheap ones! Even charging at 500mA, your phone will still not be getting enough juice to do google maps navigation with GPS.
Hope I've helped.
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It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...

jimster4389 said:
It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
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If its a USB charger try a different USB lead. When my Desire arrived brand new the lead would only work properly when I bent the lead round the back of the phone otherwise it would start a charge (LED would light up red, phone says charging) but the battery % would never get any higher. Bought a new official HTC lead and problem solved.

[Q] Real 2A car charger. Which one??

Yesterday I've been navigating again with Navigon on my SGS2, but unfortunately it slowly drains my battery. When using google maps it dous charge the phone. So apperently Navigon is using a lot more 'juice' compared to Google map navigation.
Do you people know a charger (I assume one of 2A, while my own charger is an 1A charger) which does charge the phone with bluetooth, gps and Navigon running?

I bough a 2.1A car charger from belkin and I still have battery drain.
Even with the phone detecting it correctly as AC CHARGEr.

Hmmm that's to bad
Ordered a 2A charger from ebay myself.... But I doubt it will work, especially after reading your message.
I think the phone only takes a maximum of Amps for charging, even though it uses more. Resulting in a slow battery drain.

Note that it will stopped charging if the battery gets too hot to avoid damage or possibly exploding the battery.
Obviously having a higher rated charger will heat the battery more, so make sure the phone has its back ventilated, and try avoiding direct sunlight.
Read of several people that had this issue, but got their phones charging when avoiding overheating it.
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Try the Rockfish premium charger. It's 2A and looks nice.
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has anyone had any luck with the motorola charger? I bought one for my nexus one + car dock and it always worked fine... have yet to have a chance to use it for my SGS2 though..

Mixy said:
Note that it will stopped charging if the battery gets too hot to avoid damage or possibly exploding the battery.
Obviously having a higher rated charger will heat the battery more, so make sure the phone has its back ventilated, and try avoiding direct sunlight.
Read of several people that had this issue, but got their phones charging when avoiding overheating it.
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But that's a bit strange, because a charger should deliver what a phone is asking for. As far as I know, a charger doesn't push the charge to the phone. But we will see, if the phone does get overheated, then that will be the end of the charger.
malimal said:
Try the Rockfish premium charger. It's 2A and looks nice.
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Do you have a link where it can be found?
mynameisjon said:
has anyone had any luck with the motorola charger? I bought one for my nexus one + car dock and it always worked fine... have yet to have a chance to use it for my SGS2 though..
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Which motorola charger?

Bart1981 said:
But that's a bit strange, because a charger should deliver what a phone is asking for. As far as I know, a charger doesn't push the charge to the phone. But we will see, if the phone does get overheated, then that will be the end of the charger.
Do you have a link where it can be found?
Which motorola charger?
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You're mistaken.
The thing that you plug into your car, that's called a power supply.
The real charger is built into the phone. That's the charging circuit that will shut down the charger, stop drawing power from the power supply when the phone gets too hot.
I doubt the phone will be able to take 2A, and the circuits will prevent the phone from drawing 2A of current.
#1. So, what you're looking for is actually a power supply that provides suficient current. Most car chargers will be about the same.
The power supply is connected to your phone via cables. Badly made cables will not be able to supply more than 200mah, and as a result you're going to take a really long time to charge your phone, and with a high drain application going on, you're not going to be able to charge your phone.
I had that exact same problem previously, and it was because of a lousy batch of oem cable I bought from ebay. Original, and other brands of oem cables worked fine.
#2. You need to buy some proper cables. I buy from www.monoprice.com, because I like my cables to be gold plated.
Edit: No, I'm not related to monoprice. I just love my gold cables plated heads. Can't find them cheaper anywhere else.

But the quality of the cable is not the only thing. The phone should also see the charger as an AC charger instead of an usb charger. This can be done by connecting the middle pins in the usb cable. Otherwise it will only charge with 500mA.

Bart1981 said:
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i got mine off ebay, but its like this one below
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish%26%23153%3B+-+Premium+Micro+USB+Vehicle+Charger/1114106.p?id=1218221913668&skuId=1114106&st=Rocketfish%20Car%20Charger%20&cp=2&lp=1
make sure you get model RF-PMC55

Bart1981 said:
But the quality of the cable is not the only thing. The phone should also see the charger as an AC charger instead of an usb charger. This can be done by connecting the middle pins in the usb cable. Otherwise it will only charge with 500mA.
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Is there a car charger you can buy that does this automatically? (i.e phone thinks it's plugged into AC rather than USB). I'd rather not plug anything i've been messing about with into my beloved SII.

It's not about the charger but about the cable you're using.

Use Samsung Charger Only?

Are there any risks to using a non-Samsung battery charger?
Tried an HTC charger the other day and phone wouldn't charge ("Battery Low" message starts blinking), so I pulled the plug on it quickly in case I might damage the battery.
Thanks.

junkeeroo said:
Are there any risks to using a non-Samsung battery charger?
Tried an HTC charger the other day and phone wouldn't charge ("Battery Low" message starts blinking), so I pulled the plug on it quickly in case I might damage the battery.
Thanks.
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I would recommend quality ac adapters. Also, look for ones pushing at least 1A, if not 2.1A. The regular 450mAh chargers just won't cut it with the Note 2.
More than you want to know about chargers in one nice blog!

I've used a T-Mobile branded wall charger with a newegg micro usb cable and it seems to work fine. I've also used a usb car charger with the same newegg cable and no issues.

hopefully not, since the one that came form the tmobile note ii is horrible, literally falls out with a simple touch of the phone