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I was wondering if there where the same game or type of game for the pocket pc as there is for iphone.
the games that i am looking for is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvYdHiXKjyM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyiCgdqxC0
P.S. I HATE APPLE. i am trying to show some apple fanboys that u can get the same type of games and as good games as you can get on the iPhone/iPod on the PPC
actually the only thing i'm envious of is the quality of games on the iphone. Sure for windows mobile you also got a lot of games, but if the manufacturer (HTC!!!!) doesn't even provide hardware acceleration drivers, then no matter how many games you got.... it still sucks......
Luckly i havent really bought Touch HD yet but i want it very much.
and the again i cant wait for the new nVIDIA Tegra that comes out soon and it can play quake 3 with a fps of 30 and play 1080p movies.
so its just a matter of time to see if i can wait for Tegra because my current phone is totally broken.
and yeah i am envious on iPhone/iPod to just bought Ipod Touch so there three in my class that have iPod Touches and there is so meny great games espically the TD's
and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6l2MVq0e4
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Can I get some feedback on the games?
the games all look fine, but i personally would prefer NOT to pretend they are mario, god of war, call of duty etc etc.
using an icon of mario does NOT make it a mario game....likewise for the others
those are licenced/trademarked names from the original developers and using their names makes it sound like YOU think the game isn't good enough to sell without pretending it's part of a franchise.
i never install games like that
if it's a good game, rename it and rebrand it yourself....you should be proud of doing the work so don't cheapen it by trying to jump onto someone else's marketing bandwagon.
just my humble opinion of course....and i'm sure it's the opinion of Nintendo etc who own the copyright to those brands officially
are you serious????
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the games all look fine, but i personally would prefer NOT to pretend they are mario, god of war, call of duty etc etc.
using an icon of mario does NOT make it a mario game....likewise for the others
those are licenced/trademarked names from the original developers and using their names makes it sound like YOU think the game isn't good enough to sell without pretending it's part of a franchise.
i never install games like that
if it's a good game, rename it and rebrand it yourself....you should be proud of doing the work so don't cheapen it by trying to jump onto someone else's marketing bandwagon.
just my humble opinion of course....and i'm sure it's the opinion of Nintendo etc who own the copyright to those brands officially
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Ok i read your post and you dont make any sense at all. If I was trying to sell the games I could see your point , but Iam not. The reason I made those games originally was for myself. I made them because those are the types of games I like to play. I figure I share them with others as well. Where do you see me trying to sell copywritten games??? Did you even think before you posted???
that was not his point at all.
i think, what d-signet is trying to say is that usually games, that do not originate in a big franchise, but still use their names, are too poorly made to be branded under an own name. so, if you have a proper 1:1 clone of a mario game, name it as a proper clone. if it is an original platform game, which is good enough to stand for itself, don't minimize your own artwork by using mario's name and keep it original.
i have to agree with d-signet. i have come along so many knock-offs and clones that names like "SuperMarioGunWVGA" actually keep me from installing the game and even give it a chance, because i would expect another cheap clone. if you put an original name like jump 'n' gun or whatever, i would certainly have a look.
so, nobody is accusing you of copyright infringement, but only of a poor choice of names, while the work behind it and sharing it with the community is highly appreciated.
i agree with the above. you do not help your case when you state that you are "working hard to supply you with the latest games for free!!!"
Well I guess no one wrote what I said. I will repeat , this are games that I wanted to play but didnt see avalible on windows mobile. I made them so I could play them on the go. I made original games also , like phaserx,rexum,colorbox,etc. Nintendo ,Sega,or Sony would not have a problem unless I sell thier games. There are hundreds of supermario,sonic, and many more clones avalible for the PC,MAC, or Linux. What I am doing here is nothing new , just having fun!!!
Are your original games free too? hehe. where is the link?
Whatever the names, your games are plain bad(goddamn the controls)
If you are looking for some nice games to play on HD i recommend PocketUFO, TTDeluxe, NetHack. They all look nice and are free.
So I know that it was basically JUST announced that the HD will now include these two games, but I'm wondering if anyone has cabs?
For anyone who hasn't read it yet: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3985
Alternatively, I would be more than happy to spend $10 on the Need For Speed version already available on several app sites, but it seems that version only works with hardware controls, whereas the version on the HD works with the G-Sensor.
It's always the way isn't it! You spend a truck load of money on a device and then the manufacturer comes along and makes it cheaper and better.
Oh how I curse thee early adopter syndrome!
Hopefully the legends here will be able to extract the games and cab them up. Can't see how it could be considered Warez. If the Need for Speed is as good as Xtrakt then I'm laughing. Devices this good need to have better games, and ones that make use of the g-sensor. As much as I love Uno, it's hardly impressive!
Oh yeah right, I "extract" something from a shop - how can it be considered stealing? I dont think EA (the game manufacturer) intends to share it here with all of us. Maybe Monopoly, its a trial and needs to be activated on the HD.
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Oh yeah right, I "extract" something from a shop - how can it be considered stealing? I dont think EA (the game manufacturer) intends to share it here with all of us. Maybe Monopoly, its a trial and needs to be activated on the HD.
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i think the guy means extract it from a rom when and if we get an updated rom with games in them, which would be possible, we jus gotta wait to see how they release them
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it aint going to be freeware so they wont be on roms as that sort of thigs isnt allowed here. Rom cooking is tolerated by HTC and other parties but that would dry up very quickly if people started adding stuff like coreplayer mobile and non freeware games. You'll have to find a "backup" copy on torrents
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it aint going to be freeware so they wont be on roms as that sort of thigs isnt allowed here. Rom cooking is tolerated by HTC and other parties but that would dry up very quickly if people started adding stuff like coreplayer mobile and non freeware games. You'll have to find a "backup" copy on torrents
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If that's the case then how come an extacted copy of Xtrakt from the X1 has been permitted on here? We don't know (or at least I don't know) the details of how these games are going to be included in the newly bought HDs.
If there's something on the HTC site about it then I couldn't find it. The link from the wmpoweruser site doesn't go to any article and when I looked it wasn't a headline on the HTC site.
surely the word "Bundled" means included as in already on the phone when u get it, my prime example would be the xtrakt game that came with a xperia rom and was extracted and we can use on our device, so yes it will be possible if thats how the games were implemented.
i understand that ea dont release freeware games but if they do get released "Bundled" into a rom update theres no reason why we couldnt update to that rom so i dont see why we couldnt extract the rom and get the goods,
WE SHALL SEE,
you never know it might just be a link to the games in the box when u get the games
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If that's the case then how come an extacted copy of Xtrakt from the X1 has been permitted on here? We don't know (or at least I don't know) the details of how these games are going to be included in the newly bought HDs.
If there's something on the HTC site about it then I couldn't find it. The link from the wmpoweruser site doesn't go to any article and when I looked it wasn't a headline on the HTC site.
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just beat me to it lol!
Folks, I'd be willing to bet the house that the next official ROM upgrade release from HTC for the HD will include the two games. And we all know that official ROM upgrades are free. So to me, if you own an HD, upgrading for free to a new official ROM that includes the two games, is no different than getting them here in cab form.
Now, if HTC never releases a new official ROM for the HD, then all that is moot.
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i understand that ea dont release freeware games but if they do get released "Bundled" into a rom update theres no reason why we couldnt update to that rom so i dont see why we couldnt extract the rom and get the goods,
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Oh of course I forgot, HardSPL was made available by HTC, so you can update your ROM, and of course you can update your HD with a Xperia ROM and copyrighted software on it...nono...keep on dreaming.
I profit from updates and extracts like you guys, but I dont give myself false excuses for it. And again, the Monopoly game is just a trial on the Singapore HD. Peace.
im not making excuses im stating it how i see it, if it gets released in a updated rom then its mines MINES i tell u, if i have to pay for it i will, either way ill have the game,,,
so what about the manila update for rhodium that got bundled into a rom and extracted and now is available on our phones, so deal with it, calm down with your mr police officer act, we're all just speculating. not promoting theft
From my point of view they aren't selling it, so if we get it here for free they've not lost any revenue.
If they were to offer it for sale then that'd be different, but I'm sure they wouldn't be short of sales from us and others.
Given that we want to encourage games like this on WM it would be foolish not to buy it if we can. If we can't then we can still show that there's a demand for it.
I would most definitely be interested in acquiring those games for my HD! I hope you guys are right in your guess with them being included in the next rom update from HTC. I'm loving Xtrakt, Need 4 Speed would be the game I've been waiting for personally!
Hopefully soon!
it will be great to get these games.. i hate seeing the iphone ads on tv where they play games that utilize the g-sensor.. finally htc will utilize this utility and do it also!
I've confirmed that the version of this game currently available at Handango does NOT support the G-sensor.
So, HTC, hurry up already, will ya?!
How did you confirm. Users in other forums bought 0.1.42 version and it supports GSensor on their HD. Handago-Link: http://bit.ly/40nZhP
On top of the screen it has a button to turn GSensor on/off during play
im quite anxious...
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How did you confirm. Users in other forums bought 0.1.42 version and it supports GSensor on their HD. Handago-Link: http://bit.ly/40nZhP
On top of the screen it has a button to turn GSensor on/off during play
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stop lying.. i'l frikkin buy it right now!!
Great, do it and please report back. The 17.19 Touch version I have does not have the GSensor-button that one can see in the screenshot.
Lucas0511 said:
Great, do it and please report back. The 17.19 Touch version I have does not have the GSensor-button that one can see in the screenshot.
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post the links to the other forums where they confirmed it please..
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
I finally have a believable answer from them.
Unfortunately there are no plans to make Minecraft compatible with the Shield controls for the time being,
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Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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Wow, I knew it didn't work (I already own Minecraft PE) but I'm shocked they're so rude about it...
chevyowner said:
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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How unbelievably rude. The one game on the market that I would pay $6.99 for today and they go about treating one of their potential customers/new markets with crassness.
chevyowner said:
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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where did you ask this? Because I have never heard of mojang responding in that way, only the minecraft forums who are not representatives of mojang.
Minecraft PE supports the XPeria play controls and the touch controls only. No idea why its only the xperia which gets hardware control. There are apps for rooted devices to map hardware controls to touch, perhaps one of those may work with the shield and minecraft. There might even be some way of mapping shield buttons to the xperia buttons and fooling minecraft into using them, but that is something I am more doubtful of.
I emailed mojang directly.
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where did you ask this? Because I have never heard of mojang responding in that way, only the minecraft forums who are not representatives of mojang.
Minecraft PE supports the XPeria play controls and the touch controls only. No idea why its only the xperia which gets hardware control. There are apps for rooted devices to map hardware controls to touch, perhaps one of those may work with the shield and minecraft. There might even be some way of mapping shield buttons to the xperia buttons and fooling minecraft into using them, but that is something I am more doubtful of.
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Actually, yes to both of those. There is an app that I have confirmed works for the shield in such a way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
It allows physical control to touchscreen emulation, or xperia play emulation, and various other forms of emulation.
THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT
If you need root, visit this link: (note: currently rooting on the nvidia shield requires unlocking the bootloader, and that voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400029
I have tested this app to be working on final fantasy dimensions with the physical control to touch screen emulation, and it works great. The right stick drifts a bit though, and i believe that is a side effect of the right stick acting as a virtual mouse sometimes but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Hope this helps.
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Actually, yes to both of those. There is an app that I have confirmed works for the shield in such a way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
It allows physical control to touchscreen emulation, or xperia play emulation, and various other forms of emulation.
THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT
If you need root, visit this link: (note: currently rooting on the nvidia shield requires unlocking the bootloader, and that voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400029
I have tested this app to be working on final fantasy dimensions with the physical control to touch screen emulation, and it works great. The right stick drifts a bit though, and i believe that is a side effect of the right stick acting as a virtual mouse sometimes but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Hope this helps.
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This is why I normally avoid paid apps/games on play store like the plague...App A says "hardware controls supported" so person buys app a, and runs it to find out that, he needs to spend even more money on app b to use the hardware controls in app a.
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PLus the fact that Minecraft PE is very misleading about cross platform play, and the devs have only been dicks to me about the problems.
chevyowner said:
This is why I normally avoid paid apps/games on play store like the plague...App A says "hardware controls supported" so person buys app a, and runs it to find out that, he needs to spend even more money on app b to use the hardware controls in app a.
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: / you know its that kind of attitude that I relieve is responsible for the lack of decent games on android. There are a few but most of them cost money. And if a game is good, I willing to put down few bucks. Those free games are never really free anyway. They are pay to win.
Sorry for the rant, but I felt that I needed to voice my opinion .
And in my experience, devs are pretty good at integrating features that people ask for, particularly controlled support.
And what do you mean about mojang being misleading about mine craft pocket edition being cross platform?... That's the first I've heard of that.
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: / you know its that kind of attitude that I relieve is responsible for the lack of decent games on android. There are a few but most of them cost money. And if a game is good, I willing to put down few bucks. Those free games are never really free anyway. They are pay to win.
Sorry for the rant, but I felt that I needed to voice my opinion .
And in my experience, devs are pretty good at integrating features that people ask for, particularly controlled support.
And what do you mean about mojang being misleading about mine craft pocket edition being cross platform?... That's the first I've heard of that.
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I would not mind paying for a game if the developer stood by their game and actually helped the people who buy it with problems.
My comment about free games is that if you get a free game you need to expect no support or bad support, but if you pay for a game you should get decent support. I have never once gotten decent support for paid games on Google play, I have always gotten better support from free games.
And for cross-platform play setup a minecraft server on your desktop and connect to that from minecraft pe on your android device.
about the pay to win games there are also plenty of free games that are not pay to win.
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I would not mind paying for a game if the developer stood by their game and actually helped the people who buy it with problems.
My comment about free games is that if you get a free game you need to expect no support or bad support, but if you pay for a game you should get decent support. I have never once gotten decent support for paid games on Google play, I have always gotten better support from free games.
And for cross-platform play setup a minecraft server on your desktop and connect to that from minecraft pe on your android device.
about the pay to win games there are also plenty of free games that are not pay to win.
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I believe you are mistaken. You can, in no way shape or form, play cross platform from minecraft pocket edition to pc, you can play cross platform between android and ipod/ipad. but that's about it. It wouldn't work anyway, pocket edition is missing blocks from the pc version, and pocket edition has blocks that the pc version does not have (ex: nether reactors)
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I believe you are mistaken. You can, in no way shape or form, play cross platform from minecraft pocket edition to pc, you can play cross platform between android and ipod/ipad. but that's about it. It wouldn't work anyway, pocket edition is missing blocks from the pc version, and pocket edition has blocks that the pc version does not have (ex: nether reactors)
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My main reason for posting is that the game controls are not supported.
My frustration is that the support staff are being very very rude to me for trying to get the controls supported.
I can live with out cross-platform play, but they will not even accept it as a suggestion.
If i knew I would have to spend even more money to use the controls I would not have payed for minecraft pe in the first place. there were other game i could have spent the same 7$ on that would have actually worked correctly.
chevyowner said:
My main reason for posting is that the game controls are not supported.
My frustration is that the support staff are being very very rude to me for trying to get the controls supported.
I can live with out cross-platform play, but they will not even accept it as a suggestion.
If i knew I would have to spend even more money to use the controls I would not have payed for minecraft pe in the first place. there were other game i could have spent the same 7$ on that would have actually worked correctly.
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Dude, I think you were asking in the wrong place. And you have to think about it this way:
The shield just came out so of course alot of things wont support the controller.
Im sure you weren't the first person to ask for shield support, so they are likely getting annoyed at people asking all the time.
They dont take suggestions because if they did, they would have to consider thousands of requests a day. Minecraft is way more popular than any of the other android games.
Where were you talking to them?
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Dude, I think you were asking in the wrong place. And you have to think about it this way:
The shield just came out so of course alot of things wont support the controller.
Im sure you weren't the first person to ask for shield support, so they are likely getting annoyed at people asking all the time.
They dont take suggestions because if they did, they would have to consider thousands of requests a day. Minecraft is way more popular than any of the other android games.
Where were you talking to them?
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E-Mailing their support team.
If they just been polite about the controls not working, and not been rude about it. If they also put in writing on the play store page that they do not accept suggestions, then there would be less problems there.
chevyowner said:
E-Mailing their support team.
If they just been polite about the controls not working, and not been rude about it. If they also put in writing on the play store page that they do not accept suggestions, then there would be less problems there.
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Hmm...
That is odd.
Usually they are pretty nice to people.
Anyway, sorry you had a bad experience.
I'm sure that in one way or another minecraft pocket edition will eventually get shield support.
In the mean time, It is likely that another app like the one i posted will become available for free.
Minecraft pocket edition has very little in common with minecraft on PC at the end of the day.
Pocket edition primarily consists of a C library. They then use a wrapper to expose the libraries features on android, iOS and raspbian independently. The raspbian version has even further modifications.
Minecraft on PC is java.
Ultimately pocket edition is just a glorified minecraft clone from the same developers. Shares no similarities code wise. Highly unlikely that it could ever link between the original java version, the PE version or the xbox version. They never claim anywhere that it can do that either.
They do claim that the hardware controls are for Xperia Play, they make no claim that it is compatible with any other gamepad.
The Shield controls and of course external gamepads are exposed to android as Human Interface Devices and you can use the standard android library to interface with them. The Xperia Play controls are not exposed as an HID for some reason, some of the regular buttons can be treated as an HID (with really weird mappings actually, think circle is mapped to Alt Key plus the android back button or something bizarre) but the thumb"sticks" cant and sony give an actual android lib which covers the regular buttons too, most developers just use that, including mojang for some reason.
Honestly, I think they need to get their fingers out of their asses and add HID input with proper assignments and joystick support. There are quite a few android devices out there with hardware keyboards etc,. Hell, sisters netbook came dual booted with android but has no touchscreen, that would be even more unplayable than the Shield for minecraft without 3rd party apps (and no, cant just switch over to windows and play MC there, without the optifine mod it gets 2 fps, with it gets 3, unplayable, increase java priority and the system cant keep up and you get input lag anyway, all drivers are updated)
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Minecraft pocket edition has very little in common with minecraft on PC at the end of the day.
Pocket edition primarily consists of a C library. They then use a wrapper to expose the libraries features on android, iOS and raspbian independently. The raspbian version has even further modifications.
Minecraft on PC is java.
Ultimately pocket edition is just a glorified minecraft clone from the same developers. Shares no similarities code wise. Highly unlikely that it could ever link between the original java version, the PE version or the xbox version. They never claim anywhere that it can do that either.
They do claim that the hardware controls are for Xperia Play, they make no claim that it is compatible with any other gamepad.
The Shield controls and of course external gamepads are exposed to android as Human Interface Devices and you can use the standard android library to interface with them. The Xperia Play controls are not exposed as an HID for some reason, some of the regular buttons can be treated as an HID (with really weird mappings actually, think circle is mapped to Alt Key plus the android back button or something bizarre) but the thumb"sticks" cant and sony give an actual android lib which covers the regular buttons too, most developers just use that, including mojang for some reason.
Honestly, I think they need to get their fingers out of their asses and add HID input with proper assignments and joystick support. There are quite a few android devices out there with hardware keyboards etc,. Hell, sisters netbook came dual booted with android but has no touchscreen, that would be even more unplayable than the Shield for minecraft without 3rd party apps (and no, cant just switch over to windows and play MC there, without the optifine mod it gets 2 fps, with it gets 3, unplayable, increase java priority and the system cant keep up and you get input lag anyway, all drivers are updated)
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In addition, C is much more ideal for games in general over Java. On a mobile device you need C so the OS can manage the memory better.
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I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^
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I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^
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when you say he, who? because somehow I think your just trolling
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I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^
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If that is true how come you have not sold the photo to the press....If you had it would be major news....I call TROLL BS.
Lol, he thinks Mojang is a person.
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Use of game emulators and game ports are only intended for people that have previously purchased game titles.
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Use of game emulators and game ports are only intended for people that have previously purchased game titles.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but since most of the old Nintendo games are still being sold via the Nintendo eShop to be played on newer consoles like the Wii U (and I guess there is something similar on Sony's side) aren't all the threads in this section against forum rules #6 and #9 by providing links to download games (roms) illegally? Yes I know, i'm supposed to only download games that I already own, and these games are pretty old but I thought they were still considered like copyrighted materials...?
Don't get me wrong, I like this game forum idea, but I'm just a little surprised its tolerated... and curious to know why its ok for Nintendo and Sony materials but its not tolerated elsewhere on xda for lets say, a random cracked app from the playstore...?
And according to what Nintendo is saying here, especially what said under:
Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
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i don't think its a good idea to have this forum, sadly. Not trying to be an a**hole, just warning you about possible legal issue here. What do you think?
Edit: After reading everything on Nintendo's page, I'm also surprised to see emulator being available from Google's PlayStore...
alray said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but since most of the old Nintendo games are still being sold via the Nintendo eShop to be played on newer consoles like the Wii U (and I guess there is something similar on Sony's side) aren't all the threads in this section against forum rules #6 and #9 by providing links to download games (roms) illegally? Yes I know, i'm supposed to only download games that I already own, and these games are pretty old but I thought they were still considered like copyrighted materials...?
Don't get me wrong, I like this game forum idea, but I'm just a little surprised its tolerated... and curious to know why its ok for Nintendo and Sony materials but its not tolerated elsewhere on xda for lets say, a random cracked app from the playstore...?
And according to what Nintendo is saying here, especially what said under:
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i don't think its a good idea to have this forum, sadly. Not trying to be an a**hole, just warning you about possible legal issue here. What do you think?
Edit: After reading everything on Nintendo's page, I'm also surprised to see emulator being available from Google's PlayStore...
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You make some good points, and we are investigating it to determine whether we should keep this section or close it down. It's rather confusing because there are multiple stances on game emulators and game roms. I wonder how the apps are able to exist on Google Play.
Some info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console_emulator#Legal_issues
Let me start by stating that this is not an app request!!!
I just want to know if anybody has this port working on a fire tv stick 4k, and if so, then how did you compile it? On the stick itself?
I've compiled it for my linux pc and on my phone and am loving it, but the tv is where this game belongs.
For those unaware,
https://github.com/VDavid003/sm64-port-android/tree/master
https://github.com/VDavid003/sm64AndroidBuilder
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJ8Gs50UkM
redminote8txda said:
Let me start by stating that this is not an app request!!!
I just want to know if anybody has this port working on a fire tv stick 4k, and if so, then how did you compile it? On the stick itself?
I've compiled it for my linux pc and on my phone and am loving it, but the tv is where this game belongs.
For those unaware,
https://github.com/VDavid003/sm64-port-android/tree/master
https://github.com/VDavid003/sm64AndroidBuilder
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJ8Gs50UkM
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Just use an n64 emulator. It'll work.
dladz said:
Just use an n64 emulator. It'll work.
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Rather have it native. Widescreen.
TimmyP said:
Rather have it native. Widescreen.
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Hmmm I'd rather have it in 4K with upscaled graphics with a proper controller.
Which is what emulation allows...
Lol how do you think the app works?? It's an emulator locked down, they're probably making money from from ads off the back of someone else's work done on an emulator and a game that's clearly copyright material, lol.
In short to answer your question : I wouldn't use a single game emulator when I can have a better experience with an emulator.
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LOL. It is a NATIVE PORT. The code for the ACTUAL GAME was decompiled.
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That's not how it works and yes it is against copyright to copy ANY Nintendo game..
This also shouldn't be in the fire TV stick section as this is to do with hacking and apps, not fire TV .
You can't talk to people like this on XDA either.
Your post has been reported.
THREAD CLEANED
@TimmyP
Please check your PM!
So now let's get back to a non-violent communication, shall we?!
Cheers,
mrjuniork (Forum Moderator)
Sorry, it was kinda patronizing.
Mario64 has been decompiled in secret by brute force methods, and is natively available for all platforms. Some hacking group did this, most likely because they knew Nintendo was, yet again, reselling roms.
And to that other newb? Yeah, thats how it works. Go ahead and report that Gladz. Idgaf.
There are Windows, Android, Linux, IOS, Switch, etc ports.
To OP: Yes, the Android build runs on my FS4k.
And here ya go: A whole subreddit dedicated to Mario64 PC port:
https://old.reddit.com/r/mario64pcport/
Sorry I insulted you Gladz. Doesnt make you any less incorrect. This completely destroys emulation.
My game is seamlessly modded and has graphics comparable to SMG in 4k. All coins are in 3d. Trees in 3d. All character models are smooth and updated. Textures enhanced with neural networks. Makes what just came to Switch seem laughable by comparison.
Here is my old cleaned post XDA!
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LOL. It is a NATIVE PORT. The code for the ACTUAL GAME was decompiled.
You can use supermario64pcbuilder and compile a Windows port and it pulls it straight from github, as long as you have a legal rom and own the game.
If fully supports xbox 360 controllers, 4k, widescreen, different camera controls, texture packs, new models, new animations... AND ITS ALL NATIVE!
So let me ask you... How do YOU THINK IT WORKS? ...
PS: Ill clarify... This is a ONE TIME DEAL that is FAR BETTER than emulation. Super Mario 64... is on PC! (and Android and IOS and Switch(this version))
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Double PS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMbm-qOCZdI
Mods for the NATIVE PC VERSION OF MARIO 64.
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dladz said:
That's not how it works and yes it is against copyright to copy ANY Nintendo game..
This also shouldn't be in the fire TV stick section as this is to do with hacking and apps, not fire TV .
You can't talk to people like this on XDA either.
Your post has been reported.
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LOL ?... Yea it is sorta unheard of, getting or decompiling the entire source of a commercial game besides something like Doom, but yea it would be wise to actually follow the links and check things out before attacking someone. Sorta the purpose of github anyways.. people don't throw up compiled code - and among devs it is very frowned upon to either steal code, invalidate licenses or add ads. There wouldn't be much tolerance for any of that behavior on github. If someone forks a project or steals code without properly staying within bounds of the license then I imagine it would be pretty easy to get that taken care of - at least on github.
Also from what I have heard, the original source code of mario 64 was leaked, BUT like what @TimmyP was saying this is a full decompile of the source code and took probably several contributors a VERY long time to go through and cleanup and make it recompile. They also DO NOT distribute any of the asset files that are not actual code, so as far as the legalities of it.. it would appear they are in the clear and how you obtain image, and audio assets is none of their business.
(lets just hope they are secretly working on OOT, because what 2 games could you possibly want native code to? These would probably be my top 2 choices, and we got one already)
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LOL ?... Yea it is sorta unheard of, getting or decompiling the entire source of a commercial game besides something like Doom, but yea it would be wise to actually follow the links and check things out before attacking someone. Sorta the purpose of github anyways.. people don't throw up compiled code - and among devs it is very frowned upon to either steal code, invalidate licenses or add ads. There wouldn't be much tolerance for any of that behavior on github. If someone forks a project or steals code without properly staying within bounds of the license then I imagine it would be pretty easy to get that taken care of - at least on github.
Also from what I have heard, the original source code of mario 64 was leaked, BUT like what @TimmyP was saying this is a full decompile of the source code and took probably several contributors a VERY long time to go through and cleanup and make it recompile. They also DO NOT distribute any of the asset files that are not actual code, so as far as the legalities of it.. it would appear they are in the clear and how you obtain image, and audio assets is none of their business.
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Right ok, I did have a look and I am a gamer so yes having a game ported is great on all sides..
So to be clear, this ROM would be natively running on android? Great.. so no emulation, no other encoded system, just android?
Clever what they've done with the ROM insertion, as that would be copyright infringement.
Nintendo don't allow copies even if you own the original.. which sucks and I'm not sure how that's legal but it's Nintendo, so much doesn't make sense with them.
It was ported to pc first and since then you've been able to compile it for a lot of devices, some are reporting that this port works better native on the switch than the official Nintendo release.
The port itself is not piracy, compiling for android is not piracy, sharing a finished apk would be piracy
This port is awesome on so many levels, one of them is the possibility of mods, and there are already a good number of mods available.
So back to my original question, anyone got this working on a fire tv stick 4k? @TimmyP you say :"To OP: Yes, the Android build runs on my FS4k." So how did you get it to work? Did you compile on the stick?
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Right ok, I did have a look and I am a gamer so yes having a game ported is great on all sides..
So to be clear, this ROM would be natively running on android? Great.. so no emulation, no other encoded system, just android?
Clever what they've done with the ROM insertion, as that would be copyright infringement.
Nintendo don't allow copies even if you own the original.. which sucks and I'm not sure how that's legal but it's Nintendo, so much doesn't make sense with them.
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It may be a gray area, but you really can't say it is illegal. Of course Nintendo would contend otherwise and at times it is necessary for companies to take things to court just to ensure their copyrights remain valid - regardless of what the judgement or out come may be. Think Xerox vs copying machine. Regardless if you have the ability to replicate something for your personal use then that's been fairly well upheld in courts, VCR, VHS, DVRs - it's not illegal to make a copy, but distribution or mass distribution certainly.
Where this gets murky is that they are not redistributing the finalized rom, nor any of its assets. They are not even sharing the original variable names of the various functions (beyond coincidence). The only literal thing they are redistributing are the binary numbers and similar logic - but even that may differ some since this is a decompile - not the original source and who really know how it comes back out after the original code was written. Compilers create all sorts of optimizations and I would assume some of that may actually be dumped back out into the decompile as it will not possibly be a perfect replica.
Regardless of the fact that the source code may differ the final product does come out to be the same - but again - that is only the case with the proper assets and audio and in all reality someone could literally create replacements for all of those things and you could end up with a final product that has no clearly copyrighted material in it at all.
All I am saying is it doesn't really matter how much you think this is or isn't legal - the way the team has gone about this has not been blatantly or obviously illegal nor the way they have released it. We could even get into conversations about IBM v Compaq too, and again there were and are ways to recreate somethings without it being illegal. It's at the very least a gray area, but you really can't say much more than that.
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It may be a gray area, but you really can't say it is illegal. Of course Nintendo would contend otherwise and at times it is necessary for companies to take things to court just to ensure their copyrights remain valid - regardless of what the judgement or out come may be. Think Xerox vs copying machine. Regardless if you have the ability to replicate something for your personal use then that's been fairly well upheld in courts, VCR, VHS, DVRs - it's not illegal to make a copy, but distribution or mass distribution certainly.
Where this gets murky is that they are not redistributing the finalized rom, nor any of its assets. They are not even sharing the original variable names of the various functions (beyond coincidence). The only literal thing they are redistributing are the binary numbers and similar logic - but even that may differ some since this is a decompile - not the original source and who really know how it comes back out after the original code was written. Compilers create all sorts of optimizations and I would assume some of that may actually be dumped back out into the decompile as it will not possibly be a perfect replica.
Regardless of the fact that the source code may differ the final product does come out to be the same - but again - that is only the case with the proper assets and audio and in all reality someone could literally create replacements for all of those things and you could end up with a final product that has no clearly copyrighted material in it at all.
All I am saying is it doesn't really matter how much you think this is or isn't legal - the way the team has gone about this has not been blatantly or obviously illegal nor the way they have released it. We could even get into conversations about IBM v Compaq too, and again there were and are ways to recreate somethings without it being illegal. It's at the very least a gray area, but you really can't say much more than that.
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Yea it's not what I think! Nothing to do with me at all..Nintendo are quite unique in what they state in their copyright terms..
As I've said before. I am a gamer and I do like emulation, I've used literally every single console/ computer out there and my computing history goes back to the early 80s so I know a thing or two about it.
You might want to have a read of this..like I said not me, this is nintendo.
Source: https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
"Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet."
Nintendo's lawyers have already attacked videos of Mario 64 and websites for downloads.
So yep, this isn't my opinion dude. This is Nintendo's.
All I'm saying is be careful what you're doing here, merely talking about getting Mario working on a device would be enough for XDA to get some lawyers contacting them.
You do what you will, that's the last I'll say on the matter, I'm not a mod so it's not my responsibility.
On a personal note, I bought Mario 64 back when it was released and completed it up to Yoshi on the roof, it's a good game..and I like the idea of a native android version, I can just understand their legal standpoint, regardless if you have not distributed the game, the process available Nintendo will see as an infringement.
As per your second to last paragraph, if it's running Mario or anything similar, then infringement avoidance is impossible..
Essentially the problem is intent.
I disagree with it. But Nintendo's stance is plain as day,, read the content
dladz said:
Yea it's not what I think! Nothing to do with me at all..Nintendo are quite unique in what they state in their copyright terms..
Source: https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
"Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet."
Nintendo's lawyers have already attacked videos of Mario 64 and websites for downloads.
So yep, this isn't my opinion dude. This is Nintendo's.
All I'm saying is be careful what you're doing here, merely talking about getting Mario working on a device would be enough for XDA to get some lawyers contacting them.
You do what you will, that's the last I'll say on the matter, I'm not a mod so it's not my responsibility.
As per your second to last paragraph, if it's running Mario or anything similar, then infringement avoidance is impossible..
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Removed a few bits as there's a lot that wasn't really addressable. We're talking about the same company that said renting their video games was and should be illegal and fought it in court. Wouldn't allow instruction manuals to be included with copies the rental store owned (copy or original). They also tried to be the only supplier for chips of cartridges and forcing publishers to gamble with a minimum order of 10,000 cartridges for their new game - no wonder you had 3rd parties hacking their way around it and making their own cartridges.
There's law, agreements and what's enforceable - and many companies have a lot of things in their agreements that are not remotely enforceable or following any existing or future law. A company can say a pear is an orange in their agreement if they want to, but it doesn't make it true, nor the person that has to "agree" to it to believe it either.
XDA is safe as long as they do not link to or promote stolen content - the site isn't going to get contacted by Nintendo or Microsoft for linking to an incomplete re-implementation of Mario 64 any more than Microsoft can go after XDA for linking to ReactOS because they re-implemented particular APIs.. Hell Oracle tried going after Goolge too and failed - fortunately one of the judges took an actual programming course and learned what APIs meant and were so he could properly rule in Google's favor at the end of the day. Granted many judges would have likely not bothered like he did.
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Removed a few bits as there's a lot that wasn't really addressable. We're talking about the same company that said renting their video games was and should be illegal and fought it in court. Wouldn't allow instruction manuals to be included with copies the rental store owned (copy or original). They also tried to be the only supplier for chips of cartridges and forcing publishers to gamble with a minimum order of 10,000 cartridges for their new game - no wonder you had 3rd parties hacking their way around it and making their own cartridges.
There's law, agreements and what's enforceable - and many companies have a lot of things in their agreements that are not remotely enforceable or following any existing or future law. A company can say a pear is an orange in their agreement if they want to, but it doesn't make it true, nor the person that has to "agree" to it to believe it either.
XDA is safe as long as they do not link to or promote stolen content - the site isn't going to get contacted by Nintendo or Microsoft for linking to an incomplete re-implementation of Mario 64 any more than Microsoft can go after XDA for linking to ReactOS because they re-implemented particular APIs.. Hell Oracle tried going after Goolge too and failed - fortunately one of the judges took an actual programming course and learned what APIs meant and were so he could properly rule in Google's favor at the end of the day. Granted many judges would have likely not bothered like he did.
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Like I said I don't like it. But that's their standpoint pal.
I personally think it's a matter of time.
On another note, I think the firestick will struggle to run this game..even if it's implemented in the right way..
Just reading the xda news here.
Sounds amazing, compiling shouldn't be a problem
Github link here.
Now I need a legit copy