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MSN on Artemis?

As of today i'm the proud owner of an Artemis to...
Coming from an MDA 3 this thing is a huge leap forward
The only thing that kinda bugs me is that i havent been able to find any MSN like apps on it.
It seems that Pocket MSN only goes as far as Winmobile 2003, perhaps any of you have a solution here?

Mine has Pocket MSN on it. Original ROM with no mods to it bought from Expansys. Not sure why your's wouldn't. In a pinch, you could use: http://mobile.msn.com to use the web version of it. Gives you everything except MSN Messenger but you can search the forums here for the Live Messenger Beta.
db

The Wonders of forums
once again forums come to the rescue. i got my MDA the other day, and have just spent the very good part of my VERY *cough cough* busy looking for msn solutions. searched hours on microsoft website ending up with nothing..
And then i had a PROPER look through XDA forum....and surprise surprise i found, installed and tested the soluotion.
i do hope everyone enjoys this find

snoop85 said:
once again forums come to the rescue. i got my MDA the other day, and have just spent the very good part of my VERY *cough cough* busy looking for msn solutions. searched hours on microsoft website ending up with nothing..
And then i had a PROPER look through XDA forum....and surprise surprise i found, installed and tested the soluotion.
i do hope everyone enjoys this find
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Thank you for sharing bro..

anytime...anything to makes things easier for the good forum ppl.
hey i noticed your artemis is modded. it what way have you modded it. also where did u get from?

snoop85 said:
anytime...anything to makes things easier for the good forum ppl.
hey i noticed your artemis is modded. it what way have you modded it. also where did u get from?
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It's a joke the modified rom ..
I use this expression because of Locked Sucked Rom from ACE Hellas

Contacts to Address Book
hey guyz,
has anyone tried that file i post the other day.
i installed it and used it for a good 1hr. the only thing i was not happy with was the first time you use it, it asks do u want to add contacts to device address book. the only options you have is OK for yes and Cancel. Do cancel and you cant login. So its forcing you add the contacts, which i dont really want. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get around this??
Snoop

Hi cheers for the app.
I am rather new to this pocket pc game and I was wondering where I should drag this (unpacked) file or where (and how) I should install this.
thanks again

hey will
you and me both. forums are great help.
just place anywhere either on device or memory. then just simply click and it will do the install. and then you should find it under programs.
get anymore problems holla back.

snoop85 said:
hey guyz,
has anyone tried that file i post the other day.
i installed it and used it for a good 1hr. the only thing i was not happy with was the first time you use it, it asks do u want to add contacts to device address book. the only options you have is OK for yes and Cancel. Do cancel and you cant login. So its forcing you add the contacts, which i dont really want. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get around this??
Snoop
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ok i thought would be smart and delete the contacts from the device...hmmm not the best idea. Seems that it deleted the contacts within msn messenger as well.
anyone know i dont know how to get them back. without typing each one of my 200 contacts
why do microsoft have to make things so difficult
UPDATE 15/12/06 22:00
hi guys just to update you on this issue with the contacts. got my normal msn contacts back, thank god i do backups.
i have synced my MDA with my Apple mac and its built-in address book. Something i noticed on the MDA contacts was that there was one contact whose number, email/msn, address i had. and in his details it had his msn email under a field called IM (instant messeging). So i went back to my Mac Address book to see if it had similer field... and yep it did. So i spent a good 1hr changing all my 200 contacts email field into IM field...
Re-Synced the MDA and computer.... *wants to rip hair out*.... thats right no luck. Now my mda address book doesnt reconise the IM field from the Mac Address book...so the mda has no EMAILS at all now.

Hi all.
My Orbit has MSN installed, but instead I use the free Agile Messenger. Here's from the developers:
"Agile Messenger is the most feature rich and versatile Instant Messenger for mobile phones on the market today. Agile Messenger is used daily by over 2,000,000 users and has been perfected based on feature requests and feedback from tens of thousands of users. No other mobile Instant Messenger is as mature and reliable as Agile Messenger. "
You can get it here: http://www.getjar.com/products/5317/AgileMessenger
only about 500k file. Oh yeah, did I mention it's free?
Damn, I had to edit this post...this WAS free, I can see now that there's only a free trial. Well as they grow, the greed grows with them I guess... Even when I installed the previous FREE version after starting the program they FORCED me to upgrade, and then the upgraded app informed me that it will expire in 7 days unless...well you know.

ok, so just to do a quick recap.
I installed the above posted file, all went well, my contacts were imported and are now in my device address book and they are still on my msn on my PC.
What should I not do (or do) to not lose all my contacts?
oh and can the good gentleman that helped me before please tell me how to make a back up of my MSN contacts. CHeers
Willy

Willy Wanka said:
ok, so just to do a quick recap.
I installed the above posted file, all went well, my contacts were imported and are now in my device address book and they are still on my msn on my PC.
What should I not do (or do) to not lose all my contacts?
oh and can the good gentleman that helped me before please tell me how to make a back up of my MSN contacts. CHeers
Willy
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hi will,
congrats installing it.
this is the problem everyone is facing with live messenger. theres a thread about this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282540
one thing you DEF DONT!!! want to do (speaking from experiance lol) is delete the contacts from your device - Do that and contacts from your contacts PC msn messenger will happly be removed also.
if you want to back-up your PC msn that should be very easy. My experinace is based on msn on Apple Mac. Shouldnt be too different on Windows. YOu simply go to File > Save Contact List ... And choose a location to want.
Hope that helps.

Syncing on a mac
how are you syncing your Artemis with a mac? are you using any software or does isync support the sync, maybe i haven't been looking properley but can't find anything on it
thanks
rawedge

rawedge said:
how are you syncing your Artemis with a mac? are you using any software or does isync support the sync, maybe i haven't been looking properley but can't find anything on it
thanks
rawedge
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hi rawedge,
the 2 ways i know of syncing is two apps
1) great app called Missing Sync can be found at here and is great syncs iCal, Address, Time, Photos, iTunes, etc see website for more details. Its one of the best app i have used for syncing.
2) the other one is called PocketMac i think this app doesnt have support for WM5 yet but should do soon.
http://www.pocketmac.net/
this is what there website says about WM5
"Windows Mobile 5:
We are currently testing cumulative updates for all of our Windows Mobile products (PocketMac Pro, PocketMac Lite and PocketMac Phone). We expect to have updates out shortly and will email all of our customers the moment they're available."
You can download both apps for a triel period, after which you have to pay for it. Altho i think Missing Sync is worth the money.
As far as i know of iSync doesnt sync with Windows Mobile platform. But i think missing sync uses some of the technology behind iSync for sync information.
Hoep this helps. Anything else just holla

thanks
I've just looked at missing sync however the artemis/02xda orbit isn't listed in their supported phones. has anyone got it to succesfully work? Don't want to fork out ££ if it's not going to work

rawedge said:
I've just looked at missing sync however the artemis/02xda orbit isn't listed in their supported phones. has anyone got it to succesfully work? Don't want to fork out ££ if it's not going to work
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hi rawedge,
when i said i thought it was worth the money. i ment that i have successful tested and used for the past 2weeks. without any major problems. i would def recommend it for mac to windows mobile syncing. worth the investment def.
hope it helps. if u need any more specfic info, will be happy to help

Isn't it possible to extract pocket msn from a other rom?

Notorious said:
Isn't it possible to extract pocket msn from a other rom?
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ye that would good idea. i think the o2 orbit seems to have pocket msn installed.
either its t-mobile really making life difficuly or its just me. lol

I use the method listed on this page http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news2266.html OK so its not the newest app but it works and its free (I was going to purchase the application but the stupid MS site thought I was under age) its what I have loadd on my MDA C-III - Mike

Thinking about moving to android, few questions...

Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
Any comments and help is appreciated... Thanks!

Loco5150 said:
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
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HTC Sync comes with the phone, I also had some contacts stored on my company mail but I've started migrating to gmail because the really really neat integration and extremely useful features.
Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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I don't use any software for editing just for opening the docs on my smartphone so I can't help you here but I'm fairly sure you can
Loco5150 said:
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
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Again I'm more hands on with the storage so I don't sync folders maybe someone else can help you here...
Loco5150 said:
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
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Yes you can, there are vagarious free apps on the market that even offer feature widgets/notes for the screens

Hi there!
Did you already buy a Desire? I've used winmob before and you sound like you're totally schooled at Outlook with usb sync. HTC has exchange service support and you can sync through usb, It was long time ago since I ever used active sync but a friend of mine use it on Desire and he was not satisfied.
There is calendarpad that can show on start screen as activities or regular day view. Editing documents are thought to be done through Google docs as it is thought to be faster than a full scale office program on the phone. You can other wise get quick office premium for editing offline.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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yep, documents to go has such functionality:

Loco5150 said:
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com...
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Have you thought about using Google Apps for Domains, so that you can use your own domain with Google services?
Regards,
Dave

iTunes sync

please don't throw bricks at me
I just wanted to know how the new iTunes sync with froyo works?

I would like to know as well

I have tried HTC Sync v.3 (can't remember where did I get it), anyway this version has complete different interface to version 2. In the music secion, it does has sync with iTunes playlist, but when I select it, it doesn't sync to my phone.

thanks, i got version 3.
phone says connected
htc sync says no phone connected
i'll to reinstall

Where did you get HTC sync 3 from?

http://www.2shared.com/file/rkpjM_J5/HTCSync305372.html

I would like to know how the ITunes sync feature works.
But also of interest to me and i think everyone here, is how the iTunes streaming feature works so that you can play your iTunes collection on your PC via your Android 2.2 device, that would rock.

It would be nice to have HTC Sync for Mac too

Ah I was just looking on the HTC website for the update to the Sync - not that I want to sync iTunes with it - but if the functionality was there I wanted to see what it was like... before I never use it again!
I wonder why the Sync tool isnt on the HTC website..

Lothaen said:
Ah I was just looking on the HTC website for the update to the Sync - not that I want to sync iTunes with it - but if the functionality was there I wanted to see what it was like... before I never use it again!
I wonder why the Sync tool isnt on the HTC website..
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On HTC support website, they have new HTC Sync v.3 (3.0.5387) for HTC wildfire, whilist my HTC Sync is v.3.0.5372, and only people (contacts) sync works, not pictures, musics, videos, etc...

jobalz said:
http://www.2shared.com/file/rkpjM_J5/HTCSync305372.html
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it comes with htcsync 3.0.5387 which is for the wildfire
but it seems to be for desire as well. i tried to sync it with mine but it wouldn't work.
in help menu it says for android 2.1
maybe it's not ready for 2.2 yet?

Lothaen said:
Norton picked this up as a virus.
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HTC sync always says to disable anti virus before you install. Even from the official site it says that

Lothaen said:
Norton picked this up as a virus.
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try this version. it's the newest
http://rs634.rapidshare.com/files/409679123/Setup_3.0.5387.exe

well it doesn't work with my 2.2 desire anyway
hope they'll release a version for 2.2 with the new sync options soon!

well it doesn't work with my 2.2 desire anyway
hope they'll release a version for 2.2 with the new sync options soon!

jobalz said:
well it doesn't work with my 2.2 desire anyway
hope they'll release a version for 2.2 with the new sync options soon!
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Works fine for me using FroYo and the latest version of HTC Sync, am doing 2 way sync for both photos and iTunes without any issues. I DID have to uninstall the original HTC Sync first though and reboot both the phone and PC after installing.
The .exe I used can be found on this page - http://www.mikesouthby.co.uk/2010/08/how-to-sync-itunes-with-htc-desire-via-htc-sync/

Kia Ora all.
Yup works great!
You need the HTC WildFire released sync app version 3.0.5387, all previous versions removed, reboot both phone and pc, connect up and OLE! Why it isn't clearer i'll only put down to STUPID HTC approach. Or the fact that its not supposed to work? I'm a happy camper so who cares..
Works sweet. I use doubletwist normally, which i love. Its just the annoying sync read time of doubletwist to process through iTunes after i've made a change thats hard to handle.
running on Windows 7 64 bit
have a great day with froyo!

th1nkpad said:
Works fine for me using FroYo and the latest version of HTC Sync, am doing 2 way sync for both photos and iTunes without any issues. I DID have to uninstall the original HTC Sync first though and reboot both the phone and PC after installing.
The .exe I used can be found on this page - http://www.mikesouthby.co.uk/2010/08/how-to-sync-itunes-with-htc-desire-via-htc-sync/
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jaffanz said:
Kia Ora all.
Yup works great!
You need the HTC WildFire released sync app version 3.0.5387, all previous versions removed, reboot both phone and pc, connect up and OLE! Why it isn't clearer i'll only put down to STUPID HTC approach. Or the fact that its not supposed to work? I'm a happy camper so who cares..
Works sweet. I use doubletwist normally, which i love. Its just the annoying sync read time of doubletwist to process through iTunes after i've made a change thats hard to handle.
running on Windows 7 64 bit
have a great day with froyo!
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Guys. Worked great for me also, BUT, even though they are on the phone, my Music app cannot see them and just shows 8 default demo mp3's? Any ideas?

Lothaen said:
Ah I was just looking on the HTC website for the update to the Sync - not that I want to sync iTunes with it - but if the functionality was there I wanted to see what it was like... before I never use it again!
I wonder why the Sync tool isnt on the HTC website..
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If you wanted to sync music/video/photos you could always use DoubleTwist.

Wireless Access on froyo..

hey guys,
I'm on froyo on my desire, I remember the announcment about something regarding wireless access and wireless sync with the PC for apps and contacts and stuff like that, ...I forgot what is it called and cannot find my source..
where is that feature on the desire now that it has 2.2 !!
Cheers
Jackie

Anyone ?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I don't think they have sorted that out yet.
I think thats an extra site feature and they have not upgraded the site yet.

Menu -> settings -> Wireless & networks -> Portable Wi-Fi....

no its not the portable hot spot that I was talking about...
@lukehluke, Yea I think they still haven't sorted that out, it was supposed the be the Android Market website which allows you to login and install apps OTA to your device !!

I think what you mean is the ability to send stuff like maps, webpages, ...
from your browser to your phone. that is one big feature in froyo 2.2 which certainly rocks!
Its called chrometoPhone or something like this, there is also a plugin for firefox.
http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/
cheers
chaos42

You mean this!
You can almost get the first part using AppBrain anyway, but you still need to manually "sync" the apps.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
You mean this!
You can almost get the first part using AppBrain anyway, but you still need to manually "sync" the apps.
Regards,
Dave
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yea, this is exactly what I was looking for, was wondering when will the official one launch !!
chaos42 said:
I think what you mean is the ability to send stuff like maps, webpages, ...
from your browser to your phone. that is one big feature in froyo 2.2 which certainly rocks!
Its called chrometoPhone or something like this, there is also a plugin for firefox.
http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/
cheers
chaos42
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No, I already got ChromeToPhone...what I meant was just what Dave suggested above...

[Q] HTC Mail App and Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync

Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone has got to the bottom of why the HTC Mail App Version 2.00.0037.218634 (as installed via the Android 2.2 OTA update) does not work with Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync.
From what I understand the issue is not with hotmail accounts being activated, as people who have installed the stock Android 2.2 Mail.apk on their devices have been able to setup the account and get a combined email inbox.
From another forum here is the stock Android 2.2 Mail.apk
http://www.4shared.com/file/hP_PfaD8/Email.html

Same here, i thought that it was my hotmail account at first but then i read on Paul Thurrott's blog that ActiveSync was being enabled for everyone on the 30th August. I just downloaded the Android 2.2 stock mail client and it the sync works perfectly - think i prefer this over HTC's so may stick with it... Thanks for the link.

+1 thanks for the Link!

Just a word of warning, I don’t think this application can be uninstalled once installed (please correct me if I am wrong).
Also, you will no longer receive a counter of the number of emails received as there is no homepage widget with this app.
Finally, from what I have heard, Google search does not search emails contained within the Android Mail App.
Ideally I would like to see HTC patch their Mail App. I think the missing functionality is the ability to accept certificates and it is this that is preventing the HTC Mail App from syncing with Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync.
Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these points.

Is the file you linked to valid for all stock 2.2 phones or is it somehow specific to the HTC Desire?

Uninstalls fine on my stock 2.2

audioscience said:
Is the file you linked to valid for all stock 2.2 phones or is it somehow specific to the HTC Desire?
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It should work on all android phones, it might even work on 2.1 as long as you don't sync the calendar and contacts.

dik23 said:
Uninstalls fine on my stock 2.2
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Yes,
Uninstall works fine, apologies for that. No HTML Support

imranbashir_uk said:
From another forum here is the stock Android 2.2 Mail.apk
http://www.4shared.com/file/hP_PfaD8/Email.html
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Is this definitely the stock Android 2.2 app?
Because it's identical to "Improved Mail" on the Android Market Place but oddly is labelled as version 2.2 but Improved Mail is v1.75. I'd be surprised if Google would allow an e-mail app on the Nexus One that doesn't support HTML e-mail.
The one on the market place has a couple more option so I'm assuming it's newer (still no HTML or Move mail into new folder support though). It's also more stable. I found the one in the link above made my HTC Desire go very slow and unstable (unless I killed on of it's mail services).
Touchdown is the best alternative I've found. It's pretty powerful but the interface is a bit ropey. It's also 20 bucks!
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Finally, from what I have heard, Google search does not search emails contained within the Android Mail App.
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I second that. It's not listed as a Universal Search option.
imranbashir_uk said:
Ideally I would like to see HTC patch their Mail App. I think the missing functionality is the ability to accept certificates and it is this that is preventing the HTC Mail App from syncing with Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync.
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I've e-mailed HTC Support. I suggest others do the same. They need to send out an OTA fix.
About the only good things about Improved Mail are:
* Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync
* Combined Inbox
Otherwise it's pretty basic.

I've heard back from HTC Support:
"We are sorry you have had to work around, to get something to work, as the software was not compatible.
We are aware of this and I will for record send this information to the appropriate team. We are always working on fixes for our future updates.
but as of now i have not got that information."

I'd like to see this fixed too as downloading a separate basic app at about 3mb or even higher, just means I am wasting space on something that should be there anyway... with things like the flashplayer updates taking up 12mb of my internal storage - I'm only left with 14mb!
Anyhow, I thought I'd email HTC too to see if we can push them along a bit if they see a bit of interest in getting the e-mail application fixed...
Will see if they have the same response.
Have it running on Improved Email for now.

Thanks. I'm sure they could send out an OTA update. Hotmail is only one of the biggest e-mail providers worldwide and HTC said they know about the problem.
The developer of Improved E-Mail has said he'll look into why HTML e-mail support isn't working because he reckons it should. I've only got 20-22Mb free and you can only move so much to SD card.

Thank you for contacting us . In regards to your handset I can help you with that. I am sorry that you have been experiencing problem with your handset
I confirm that it is not supported at the moment on the handset thank you for bringing the issue to out attention
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Not any indication of a fix

It's not just the HTC Desire. HTC Incredible and Evo users in the States have reported it too. Given how big Hotmail is and I bet it affects all HTC Android phones (at least since the Hero), I hope HTC are working on it as a matter of urgency.

Hi Guys, new to XDA but thought I'd join as I have a shiny new HTC Desire HD.
Unfortuanately the Desire HD still has Hotmail Activesync issues (i.e. it won't work - comes up with the "please try later" error message). I am using Improved Email until there is (ever?) a fix - but I'm finding it slowing down the entire phone. After a couple of hours of improved email running the phone animations become really choppy. As soon as I force close improved email, everything returns to normal. Very odd.
I have emailed HTC about their Mail app incompatibility with Hotmail, and received the generec response below:
Thank you for contacting us .
We don't have this information available at this time but would recommend that you check back on our website regularly for any further developments.
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Come on HTC! The Mail app is really letting down an otherwise incredible device.

A Quick update, I emailed HTC back saying that the response provided was not good enough, told them that they needed to fix the issue pronto, and that I am considering getting a refund due to this... Seems drastic but might as well use the fear tactic.
They instantly replied with this:
We are aware of this issue you reported on your e-mail , We thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will pass this information along to our software developers.
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Let's hope they actually are working on fixing the issue. I still can't get around why they would remove the original android mail app that does work, and replace it with their own crippled app.
I tried installing the original android mail app posted earlier on in the thread but it says "problem parsing". Anyone have an idea as to why this issue has occured?
Tim

Thanks TimHawker. How can HTC release the Desire HD, knowing it has this bug?
This isn't some 2 bit e-mail service no one has ever heard of. Hotmail is in the top 3 (maybe number 1) of webmail services world-wide.
I've not found my Desire slows down with Improved E-Mail but it's funny you should say that because I did when I tried the Native Google Nexus One Mail App (which I'm confident is an older version of Improved E-Mail, it's identical). Exactly the same symptons. I too had to kill it, to get animations flowing properly.
I've not found that with Improved E-Mail though but didn't try it for as long (so it's certainly possible I would have the same problem). I'm having to use HTC Mail and POP3 because every mail app I've tried doesn't work with HTML e-mail when using Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync (Hotmail with POP3 is fine). See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8882069
TimHawker said:
I tried installing the original android mail app posted earlier on in the thread but it says "problem parsing". Anyone have an idea as to why this issue has occured?
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I wouldn't bother. It worked fine for me but it's identical to Improved E-Mail in every way (likely an older version). Google must've licensed it from the owner of Improved E-Mail, surely?

Thanks for the reply bradavon.
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This isn't some 2 bit e-mail service no one has ever heard of. Hotmail is in the top 3 (maybe number 1) of webmail services world-wide.
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You're 100% correct there, Hotmail is the number 1 worldwide webmail service with over 350 million users. HTC should be questioned as to why they have decided to provide an incompatible app with the most popular webmail service out there. I just can't quite fathom it.
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I wouldn't bother. It worked fine for me but it's identical to Improved E-Mail in every way (likely an older version). Google must've licensed it from the owner of Improved E-Mail, surely?
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Thanks for the info. Perhaps it's the opposite - it's the Google Android defacto mail client, but improved by the author, mwebster
I think I'll send HTC another email informing them just how big Hotmail is - perhaps they have their heads in the sand and think it's used by a few plebs with no smartphone interest.
Anyone else with this problem please bombard HTC's inbox! They may then listen and provide an OTA update.
Tim

TimHawker said:
You're 100% correct there, Hotmail is the number 1 worldwide webmail service with over 350 million users. HTC should be questioned as to why they have decided to provide an incompatible app with the most popular webmail service out there. I just can't quite fathom it.
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Microsoft only finally finished rolling out Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync on the 30th of August. So that's something at least. Microsoft don't also support Android devices yet too but say Android 2.2 should work (2.1 doesn't due to a bug with it), other versions unknown but I'm guessing unlikely.
But when all other apps I've tried work with it (except for HTML support), it cannot be that difficult to fix and especially on the new Desire HD/Desire Z. Which shipped after the problem was known.
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Anyone else with this problem please bombard HTC's inbox! They may then listen and provide an OTA update.
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Good idea.

bradavon said:
Microsoft only finally finished rolling out Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync on the 30th of August.
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Ah ok, thanks for the info - wasn't aware it was such a short time ago. Still, considering the Desire HD has just been released the problem should have been fixed.
I have emailed HTC again, will post whatever they reply here.
Tim