Ever since I got my droid incredible I've been rather disappointed with the screen. I'd say its the best device on Verizon aside from the poor battery life (fixed by slipping in a 1500mah battery) and the pentile matrix AMOLED screen. I love the vibrant colors it produces, but I'm a web junkie on my phone. This means that 90% of the time I'm looking at a pure white screen thus contributing to more battery drain and blurry text all thanks to the AMOLED screen.
So when I heard that they would start replacing AMOLED with SLCD, I got a little happy. Not too happy, because I'm stuck with an AMOLED version. I'm almost two months into my dinc ownership and would like then next 16-22 months to be a little more readable.
I got to thinking, I could sell this and buy a new one, yada yada, but what about doing a screen replacement myself? I've seen it done on youtube and it doesn't look terribly hard. But I have a few reservations:
1. Would my current hardware (version 02) accept a SLCD screen? I noticed that the new hardware version with the SLCD is 03, so I don't know if there's a firmware issue here.
2. Can you even buy SLCD replacements yet? I've looked around a bit and many stores offer "LCD Replacements". I don't understand what is meant by that since AMOLED screens are that I've known of to be available to incredibles. Are they cheap unofficial TFT panels? I'm after the juicy IPS panel SLCD, I'd rather keep my AMOLED than a cheap LCD. My concern is that they won't ever become available.
3. Performing such in depth hardware surgery will surely void my warranty and put me at risk to ruin my phone. This is a given though.
If anyone has any info regarding those above points then please share your knowledge. Thanks for reading and hopefully others have thought about this as well
SLCD is junk, it isn't a good thing that they're replacing the screens, they're doing it because Samsung is using all their smiled and super amoled screens on their own devices, thus being back ordered for everybody else. There's a reason HTC used the smiled first, if the SLCD was any better they would have used it.
I completely disagree w/ ogkhaze I actually never considered the incredible until it got the slcd. Amoled sucks imo. I hate the over saturated colors and the pentile's pixel layout. The slcd has better color accuracy and text is nice and clear.
Dunno how the fact that amoled was used first makes it any better.
Anyways you can try getting your phone replaced I.e. with your warranty but make sure you request one with an slcd. Dunno if that will work though
Getting a replacement seems like a decent way to go about it, but I'd need a legitimate reason (I'd think) and I don't have the first idea how to con that
Obviously there are varying opinions on the screen types... SLCD is better for my uses, but AMOLED has its merits as well.
Well if you're trying to get a replacement you can always go the insurance route and hope you get SLCD or you can say that you're phones speaker is blown they aren't going to check it and call you out or anything.
Div033 said:
Getting a replacement seems like a decent way to go about it, but I'd need a legitimate reason (I'd think) and I don't have the first idea how to con that
Obviously there are varying opinions on the screen types... SLCD is better for my uses, but AMOLED has its merits as well.
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Verizon replaced my phone when I told them that my phone was rebooting all the time, at complete random, and without any rhyme or reason. Granted, it actually WAS having problems, but if you warranty the thing and they find no issues, what will they do, ask for the replacement back? I doubt it.
Say the AMOLED burned in in the corner, where it says AM/PM. People had woahs like that with the N1 and the notification bar. Demand you get an SLCD replacement so it doesn't happen again. If it works for you I'll try the same, I want an SLCD so I can use a white notification bar and not worry about suffering the N1's fate
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Hi,
I bought a Desire few deys ago and unfortunately it has slcd screen.I have noticed with screen checker that on black screen there is back light bleeding on the top right corner and on the left side as well. is this normal? are there any other people with the same bleeding issues?It is very annoying,i thought for this money i get a good phone...
The bleeding is similar like on the How to know if your HTC Desire have Super-LCD screen? on youtube at 50 sec(sry i can't send url)
and i also attached a picture.
Can i exchenge it?Is it faulty or normal?
Thx for the answers!
I downloaded a display testing app, and didn't see this problem at all. I went into a completely dark interior room and ran it again, and could barley see a tiny bit of this in the upper right corner. Since I haven't noticed it once in actual use, even at night, I'm not going to worry about it. However yours, as shown in your photo, is much worse than mine. I am uncertain how the warranty folks would feel about it, but it's your call whether to try returning it. Does it bother you when using the phone?
Hi,
If i'm using it nightime i can see proper bleeding on the right and left side as well if the background is black otherwise it is ok.Daytime i can see only bleeding on the top right corner with black background, but i think it shouldn't be like that, that's why i need info from other people who has Desire with slcd screen. As you wrote you did not realised the bleeding only after i metioned it.
I am waiting for more info, after i can make a decision to take back the handset or it is normal.
Thx
Hi guys,
please share with me your feedbacks if you have SLCD screen. I am very confused now, that this problem is common or only my screen is faulty? Because if it is only for me I have to exchange the phone.
Thanks
Hi,
If it is really looking like on this photo... i dont need a slcd screen to tell you that this is not acceptable... return the phone.
Aspi
Aspergillus said:
Hi,
If it is really looking like on this photo... i dont need a slcd screen to tell you that this is not acceptable... return the phone.
Aspi
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I agree with this. If my Desire looked like that - it would definitely be going back to the seller.
As to test on my phone - I can't as I have a AOMELD version of the phone. However, I too, don't need to see an SLCD to know the above is simply not acceptable.
I have the SLCD screeen. I have the exact black light bleeding on my screen also .
If all the SLCDs are ike this ,a replacement phone also will be similar .So no point in returing .Also there is no return possible in INDIA . .
I'm sure this is normal for LCD screens, there is a YouTube video comparing an AMOLED N1 to an SLCD N1 and there's a lot of backlight bleed on the SLCD...
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thanks for the answers.So no point to exchange it, this thing is normal if you have slcd screen...Very strange and annoying.I thought this handset is almost perfect, i am going to sell it now.
thanks
Looks like Samsung's decision not to supply the AMOLED screens to 3rd parties is going to be the downfall of the Desire...
Hi! I just got a HTC Desire (SLCD) and have the same problems with the backlight bleeding (in the top right corner and in the left side but more at the middle point). You concluded it is a normal issue, but however there is people saying they don't have the problem in their SLCD Desires... Perhaps it would be worth trying to exchange it? what do you think? is out there more people with no bleeding SLCD Desires?
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i have an SLCD but no bleeding that i have noticed mine is 4 days old so maybe they fixed something definitely return it
im so glad ive got an amoled desire in all my previous htc phones with lcd screens, i neva had any bleeding like that so i'd take it back and get a replacement
To those who had an AMOLED screen (hardware version 002) and issued a replacement from Verizon:
Did they give you an AMOLED phone?
If so, how recent was this?
Also, did it have any issues?
Was it refurbished, or certified like-new?
I may have to look at getting my Inc replaced, but I sure as hell won't do it if I get an SLCD.
I just got my replace like 8 days ago.. I got a certified like new one... the only problem that I have is that I have no clue how to find out if I have a sLcd or a Amoled.. I know it should have a 002 number under the battery but honestly I dont see that in mine...
hope my info helps...
Note: I just check and I got a Amoled 002...
Settings > about phone > hardware information
-CM7 ADR6300
When I got my replacement last month they gave me another amoled. To be honest though, the colors sucked, white had a yellowish tint. Nothing a little calibration couldn't fix however.
I've had four of them replaced, all for blown speakers. The last two I asked them for an amoled. If you ask, they will send you which ever one you want.
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When I got my replacement last month they gave me another amoled. To be honest though, the colors sucked, white had a yellowish tint. Nothing a little calibration couldn't fix however.
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I don't mean to hijack, but how do you calibrate the color of the screen? The last two replacements I got have had a yellow screen and it seems to have gotten better, but I think I just got used to it.
EDIT: to add useful info, I have had 3 replacements since last April, the most recent one being last week and all were amoled screens. My wife had one replaced too and it was also an amoled.
I had mine replaced a few weeks ago, and it's an AMOLED. I haven't had the color tint issues, but my power button is a little sketchy. :/
I also can't sign into Peep on this phone when running Skyraider, but my old phone didn't have problems with it. It doesn't seem like it'd be a hardware problem, but it's the only difference I can think of.
Alright, seems safe to get a refurb now. Thanks guys.
And I assume they're all refurbished units by now instead of certified like-new, whatever the difference would be.
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Alright, seems safe to get a refurb now. Thanks guys.
And I assume they're all refurbished units by now instead of certified like-new, whatever the difference would be.
-ADR6300
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There's not a difference. It's either that or you send yours back to HTC to have them repair/refurbish YOUR phone and wait for whatever their turnover period is to get it back to you. There might not even be any history on the replacement you got at all so stop worrying about whether it's refurbished or not.
Second point, if you originally purchased an AMOLED unit, and you need a replacement you will receive another AMOLED. If you purchased an SLCD version you'll get an SLCD replacement. We have different SKU's for both that are automatically populated in the order system.
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When I got my replacement last month they gave me another amoled. To be honest though, the colors sucked, white had a yellowish tint. Nothing a little calibration couldn't fix however.
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I'd like to know how to calibrate the screen too. My wife's phone has a crappy pinkish tint to it ....
Thanks !!!
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Visited Verizon today, getting a replacement in 2 days.
NemesisXV6800 said:
I don't mean to hijack, but how do you calibrate the color of the screen? The last two replacements I got have had a yellow screen and it seems to have gotten better, but I think I just got used to it.
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I'd like to know how to calibrate the screen too. My wife's phone has a crappy pinkish tint to it ....
Thanks !!!
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Here is the thread I found it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
I can only vouch for ASOP however, I don't use a Sense rom so haven't tested it. Just download and flash calibrated-signed-42-Universal.zip. Then boot up and install Calibrator-5.1-Universal.apk. When you run that, you should be able to change each color calibration. It's pretty amazing, I was thrilled when I finally found it.
Got my replacement today.
Works perfectly. Also, it is AMOLED. Screen isn't "washed out" or anything either.
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Well, ****. It has ONE dead/permanently blue/cyan pixel in the middle of the bottom half of the screen.
I can't tell if it's amoled or slcd. Under hardware version is says 0002, which is supposed to be amoled, but this was a phone fixed by that insurance company (ausuron?), and then I purchased the phone after that. So I don't know if the 0002 means anything.
I went in a dark area and rebooted the phone. On the dark areas (droid logo), it looked ALMOST completely black. If I looked closely, I could see a little white (very little), so I don't know.
Is there anything else I can do to see what I have?
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I can't tell if it's amoled or slcd. Under hardware version is says 0002, which is supposed to be amoled, but this was a phone fixed by that insurance company (ausuron?), and then I purchased the phone after that. So I don't know if the 0002 means anything.
I went in a dark area and rebooted the phone. On the dark areas (droid logo), it looked ALMOST completely black. If I looked closely, I could see a little white (very little), so I don't know.
Is there anything else I can do to see what I have?
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It's an AMOLED.
And, can you actually replace an AMOLED screen with an SLCD and not have any problems? Just wondering, incase I ever bust my screen.
Mine says 0003. What does that mean?
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It's an AMOLED.
And, can you actually replace an AMOLED screen with an SLCD and not have any problems? Just wondering, incase I ever bust my screen.
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No. I tried replacing with a different type and it didn't work. There is a difference in the power handling. All it displayed were lines of all different colors.
Ok, that rules out his insurance company or whatever replacing it with a non AMOLED panel then.
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Which is better? Mine is SLCD I believe... 0003
Depends on who you are as to whether which one is better.
I personally dig the amoled because of the contrast. I like vivid colors though and I'm a graphic designer so I see all this crap other people don't see
So while i was replacing the digitizer on this beauty, the lcd flex must have broken inside because it didnt seem like it so i have no display
also the optical button flex broke (Now im really screwed Tiny)
So im looking into ordering a samsung amoled screen from ebay even though my hardware version is the slcd version
Is it compatible or were there just screen changes and not motherboard changes when HTC said they're going to slcd for these devices?
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So while i was replacing the digitizer on this beauty, the lcd flex must have broken inside because it didnt seem like it so i have no display
also the optical button flex broke (Now im really screwed Tiny)
So im looking into ordering a samsung amoled screen from ebay even though my hardware version is the slcd version
Is it compatible or were there just screen changes and not motherboard changes when HTC said they're going to slcd for these devices?
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I dont believe they are interchangable. Something to do with a graphics chip or something, ive seen this asked and answered somewhere here on xda before. Mabey someome who knows for sure will chime in.
Well this is unfortunate. And the fact that SLCD screens are more expensive than the amoleds online.
Can someone else confirm that they are not interchangable?
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Well this is unfortunate. And the fact that SLCD screens are more expensive than the amoleds online.
Can someone else confirm that they are not interchangable?
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I would think they are but I don't know either way. The best thing for you to do is an xda or Google search into this.
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I did some googling but couldnt find much. Found a lot of people asking but no one answering. I saw one thread where a guy said he did it, but when he turned it on he just got a pink screen. He wasnt sure if it was because of the screen type change, or if he just messed something up when putting it back together. Then the thread just died. The connectors on both are the same. I did notice though on some sites selling slcd replacements that there are 2 different types of slcd screen that shipped with the inc, and they make it sound as though they are not interchangable. You could try to contact htc, but who knows what would come of that.
They are not interchangable. AMOLED and SLCD. The way the pixels receive signal is different. AMOLED can turn individual pixels on/off while LCD can only change their color. They need different chips/drivers to work properly.
Call me crazy, but I personally prefer LCD over AMOLED. Sure it looks worse, but there's no risk of screen burn-in, plus I'm pretty sure it is easier on the battery. So I was wondering if there was any way I could replace the screen in my i747 to make it an LCD screen instead of AMOLED.
I did a Google search on Galaxy S3 LCD replacements and I found many websites claiming to sell replacement LCD's for the S3, but I'm not sure if they actually mean an LCD screen instead of AMOLED or if LCD is just a generic term used to describe any screen even if it is not actually LCD.
They're using it as a generic term. I seriously doubt this would be possible to do though. Someone would have to manufacture one for the S3. Considering it's not a replacement hardly anyone would look for....well, supply and demand rules there.
But if burn in is what you're worried about, and you're willing to spend the money for a replacement, why not wait to see if it happens and then replace it I'd it's ever necessary?
I don't think it's as big a problem as some people say anyway. I've been using mine for years, and have no trace of any burn in. I think it's usually only a problem if you plan to leave it turned on, on a single screen for hours at a time, like on a display unit. That's just based on my own experience though.
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Thanks for the advice. Another big issue I have with this screen is one that many people seem to face--small black 'splotches' on a black screen in the dark. Just annoying to have 6-7 of those scattered about, and apparently almost all screens for this phone (even replacements) have at least some of these. Not sure of how to get rid of these.
I've seen those before, but maybe I'm just lucky...? Never seen it on mine. (Even now, in the dark with Tapatalk using the dark interface, I'm not seeing any).
The ones I have seen weren't all that bad though. They weren't even noticeable when anything but a blank dark screen was displayed. That's just my experience with it though.
Unfortunately, it sounds like that's not the case for you, and I'm sorry to say I don't believe I've ever really seen a solution for it. Maybe it's got something to do with evironmental conditions during manufacture? I wish I had a better answer for you on that, but as far as I'm aware there's not a lot that can be done about it.
I know everyone has their own preferences when it comes to these things though. My own experience with amoled has been quite good, whereas lcd was not quite so. I've had issues with dead/frozen pixels, and even one where it looked like several huge ink splotches. (I was told the pixels "leaked", which is what it looked like, but I'm not 100% sure what it really was!)
Sorry for getting off track, but maybe someone else may have seen something that I haven't that can help....
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I appreciate the help, thanks for the replies.