So, back when I first got my Incredible, my Google apps account didn't work with checkout, google voice etc... so to effectivly use my phone I had to also use my true gmail account.
When I look into Accounts & Sync, as I understand it, the FIRST google account listed is the first one assigned to the phone.
Mine are ordered as:
[email protected]
[email protected]
HOWEVER, my gtalk is signed into mydomain.com's account. Back when the first 2.2 leak came out, I did a wipe and fresh install of 2.2 (after dutifully performing a nandroid) and could not get GMAIL to be my first account and still use gtalk with mydomain.com.
Is there a trick to this? Some special order/way to sign into gmail first, but attach these add-on apps (i.e. voice and gtalk) to my google apps account?
TIA for any tips...
I'm "ok" right now, but there WILL be a time when I want to start fresh, and when I do that I worry I'll never get it set back up the same way I am now.
I *could* just use my apps account, except I purchased a few apps and would hate loosing them / having to re-buy them and/or asking all the developers for refunds so I could repurchase under my apps account.
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A slightly lengthy attempt to summarise the (often contradictory) advice on this issue.
The problem: Google is allowing UK users to change from @googlemail addresses to @gmail. Many users report persistent messages that google talk authentication has failed and downloads from the market are freezing.
How to make the change (READ the rest of this before you do!): Login to your Google mail account and go to settings/account. You will see a small link offering the option. Some users report a need to do this twice before it 'sticks'. (Baed on my experience, I suspect the change takes some time to propagate - see final note here). You can reverse this change in the same way.
Solutions (or not!)
1. There is no 100% reliable way to change the gmail account details on your phone without a factory reset.
Some users recommend clearing the Google Apps data from within Apps Manager which then prompts you to set up the account details again. This option is grayed out for many
Some have recommended changing your account password. For me this did not allow me to change all the account details on the phone
2. You can set up a second gmail account on the phone with the @gmail details. However this may not allow you to delete the @googlemail account although some have suggested it does. You will recieve copies of all emails on both accounts!
3. Do a factory reset. Back up all your data, take a deep breath and go for it! Seriously, this did not actually result in a lot of work for me as I don't have a truckload of apps on the phone. You have the choice of reverting to the @googlemail account (which is what I did) or setting up with the new @gmail details. From what I can gather the latter approach does not result in problems with re-installing paid for apps - but no promises!
NOTE: You will receive email sent to either @googlemail or @gmail on your old @googlemail account so you could just start using @gmail as your address and forget about the problem!
...and finally. Having gone through all of the work associated with a factory reset to @googlemail, I discover that Google has reset my account to @gmail anyway and everything seems to be working OK! I do wonder if changes to accounts are propagating very slowly. (I also wonder if Google knows what it is doing, but that's another story)
Hope this is some help
I had this problem and corrected it by reverting back to @googlemail.
But what gets me is that considering how widespread this problem is, is the overwhelming silence from Google.
NineToTheSky said:
I had this problem and corrected it by reverting back to @googlemail.
But what gets me is that considering how widespread this problem is, is the overwhelming silence from Google.
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Probably because most UK Desire owners have phones from Orange, and they've removed Google Talk (although they've handily left the service running!), so this isn't going to be a problem for them. Also, a lot of people have always known that you could always ignore the `googlemail` thing and use gmail.
Why bother?
Any email sent to [email protected] is received by [email protected] anyway..
Fon22
Why bother? Because, as the OP says, if, in the UK, you change you address from googlemail to gmail, you won't be able to download anything from the App Market.
is there anywhere we can ask google to provide android switchover instructions?
You know you don't have to put the @ when setting up an account.
When I set up both my G1 and my Desire I just signed in with the Google user name.
Just to add my bit, I'm a Google apps account owner, my domain is not gmail or googlemail its simply hosted by Google and even though I've done nothing its stopped working for me also on my desire. I get the same googletalk auth error and can't download anything from the apps store either.
Interestingly, even from my pc, if I goto googletalk it won't let me in either, yet email and other Google apps like docs and calendar work no bother. Selecting Google talk gives a 404 unauthorized.
Plus side:
Picasa web albums now sync
Just to add my bit, I'm a Google apps account owner, my domain is not gmail or googlemail its simply hosted by Google and even though I've done nothing its stopped working for me also on my desire. I get the same googletalk auth error and can't download anything from the apps store either.
Interestingly, even from my pc, if I goto googletalk it won't let me in either, yet email and other Google apps like docs and calendar work no bother. Selecting Google talk gives a 404 unauthorized.
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I got exactly the same as this, after everything working brilliantly for 3 days!! I have now setup a gmail account to sign the phone up with and the turn all sync off for it, thrn setup my Google for domains and setup the calendar through exchange and everything is working fine...its a big faff, but it will works well: )
I did do a lot of reading and apparently Google for domains doesn't work with Google talk full stop... BUT why work for days with no problems!! Stupid!!
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Hi All
The main account on my Desire Z is the account I use for my business, which was setup as a google apps account, it works fine for email etc but was never able to be used for Picasa or other google applications.
However, they have just recently transitioned google apps accounts and now they can access all the google applications, however to get them working on your phone, the google website says I'd need to backup my phone, remove the account, factory reset and then readd the account...
I'm not sure I like the sound of this as potentiall I could lose things if I've not backed everything up etc...
Is there anyway I can do this without having to do a full reset? So I can use the newly accessible apps likes picasa etc
Thanks
I am having the same issue - my calendar no longer sync's correctly as it's still attached to the me%[email protected] address, even though it displays the 'merged' account [email protected] Very frustrating!
valve90210 said:
Hi All
The main account on my Desire Z is the account I use for my business, which was setup as a google apps account, it works fine for email etc but was never able to be used for Picasa or other google applications.
However, they have just recently transitioned google apps accounts and now they can access all the google applications, however to get them working on your phone, the google website says I'd need to backup my phone, remove the account, factory reset and then readd the account...
I'm not sure I like the sound of this as potentiall I could lose things if I've not backed everything up etc...
Is there anyway I can do this without having to do a full reset? So I can use the newly accessible apps likes picasa etc
Thanks
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If you're worried about losing things because you haven't backed everything up then back everything up, it's pretty simple.
Download Titanium Backup or My Backup Pro and back up your apps and data; after you reset your phone, restore your apps and data
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I realise that but was just wondering if a reset was actually necessary or not?
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I’m running a gingerbread build and I can just go to Accounts & Sync and add a new gmail account and remove the old one.
I don’t know if that’s what you mean though.
Maybe this is more of a general ICS question but I'm not sure where else to ask it. I just bought a VZW GN and I'm getting it up and working but one thing is really bothering me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one general with talk enabled and one business account (google apps) with talk disabled. I have the account settings set to sync e-mail and calendar from the google apps account. However, google talk CONSTANTLY informs me that it was unable to sign in on the google apps account.
I use google talk quite a bit, but only on my personal account. Is there away to remove my business account from google talk? or at least stop the automatic sign on? This was never a problem in my previous android phones.
You should be able to disable the automatic sign in through settings. Don't forget to log off as well.
Another way around this is to wipe the phone, and then add your personal account to the device first. With every Android phone, the first gmail account to be added becomes the default GTalk account, plus it is the main market account. In the past (before you could switch market accounts), if you accidentally used the wrong account during initial setup, you had to wipe the phone to fix it. Now that market can handle multiple accounts, I think you only have to wipe to fix the default gtalk account.
I don't even know if it's possible to sign in more than one Gtalk account? If not, then you have to wipe and start over, making sure that the account you want to use for gtalk is your first account on the phone.
At least, that's how it's always worked with gingerbread and earlier. I don't know about ICS just yet (my GNex is charging and i'm avoiding setup until I get home).
Hey guys,
I've been messing around with this off and on all day. From what I can tell, ICS logs into multiple Gtalk accounts simultaneously. This would be great except for the fact that one of my accounts has Gtalk disabled.
@ Ves - I cannot find in settings where to disable automatic sign on. I can see the "sign out" option, but the account I'm trying to disable the automatic sign on for is already signed out (since it can't sign on). Still, I pushed it and it is still trying to reconnect quite frequently. I've been in and out of these settings all day so if I'm blind and another Nexus user found the option please tell me where it is!
@ ZPrimed - I actually did add the personal account (with Gtalk enabled) to the phone first. I added my work e-mail second. I am pretty sure what you are talking about was how I set up my Gingerbread phone before but now since there seems to be multiple signon to Gtalk it is adding both accounts to it and I still can't figure out how to remove one!
FYI, I think the failed sign ons are due to the fact that I am consistently losing 4g coverage every 30 mins or so (it's been this way since last week on my Thunderbolt) and the phone is trying to sign back on both Gtalk accounts when a connection returns.
Hmm. I have two accounts as well, gapps and standard, but my situation is reversed. I own the gapps domain, so I use talk on my gapps account, and my gmail account is just along for the ride. The gmail account is my spambin, or I use it when stupid websites feel that a hyphen is invalid in an e-mail address (my gapps domain has a dash in it). I don't really use it for anything else, i only sync mail and calendar on it.
I'm still using my Stratosphere right now, and on it the only account signed in to talk is my gapps account, and I can't find any way to enable the other account at all (i.e. I think gingerbread may be limited to one talk account, period).
Once I switch over to the nexus tonight I'll take a look and let you know what I find though.
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Hey guys,
I've been messing around with this off and on all day. From what I can tell, ICS logs into multiple Gtalk accounts simultaneously. This would be great except for the fact that one of my accounts has Gtalk disabled.
@ Ves - I cannot find in settings where to disable automatic sign on. I can see the "sign out" option, but the account I'm trying to disable the automatic sign on for is already signed out (since it can't sign on). Still, I pushed it and it is still trying to reconnect quite frequently. I've been in and out of these settings all day so if I'm blind and another Nexus user found the option please tell me where it is!
FYI, I think the failed sign ons are due to the fact that I am consistently losing 4g coverage every 30 mins or so (it's been this way since last week on my Thunderbolt) and the phone is trying to sign back on both Gtalk accounts when a connection returns.
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My apologizes. I took another look and saw the option wasn't there on the GN. It's on the SGS2 as I took a look there. Mistook the option for each version.
Still weird that Google Talks keep trying to reconnect when you've chosen "Sign Out".
Have you tried activating the chat in Gmail then log in from your phone, wait a bit then sign out. Then go back to Gmail and disable it again.
Hey guys,
I asked the admin of our gapps domain very nicely to enable chat so i could try to fix my phone. once he enabled it, i was immediately able to sign on to gtalk thru the nexus, then select "sign out". This stopped the automatic sign on attemps. he disabled chat on the domain again and the phone seems to not mind. this seems to have solved my problem. thanks for the advice!
Hi,
I usually have 2 gmail accounts signed in for a user. One account where my all play store apps are there....and the other one mostly for mails. both are gmail accounts.
All are fine until Lollipop. Usually I sign in with my play store account then later add my other account. All of the apps tied to my main account so all my in app purchases are fine. When I go to accounts always my main account listed first then additional ones in the order I added.
After lollipop, my accounts seems getting sorted by alphabet. My main accounts starts with S (similar as username) so it listed out last in order. When I open apps most of them seems tied to first account listed where none of my in app purchases there.
As of now I left out all accounts and sign in using one account which solves the issue temporarily, but I really like to have my other accounts also signed in. (as some of play books tied to those).
I don't want to create separate user for this purpose...
Did any one else seeing this issue. Is there a solutions.
Please help.
Thank you.
- Nambi
I just picked up an M9 from Verizon over the weekend and set up both my personal and work Google accounts. Coming from an S3, I'm not very familiar with Lollipop yet. The phone apparently thinks that my work account is my main account, and every app seems to default to using it.
For instance, in Chrome, I'm automatically signed in with my work account. I do not recall ever being asked which one to use. If I switch to my personal account, close the tab, then open a new one, I'm signed into my work account again in the new tab.
In other apps as well, my work account is default and I have to manually switch to my personal account using the drop down box.
Any ideas on how I can make my personal account the default?
You can go into each accounts sync settings and put a check next to that box.
For example, I have my Mothers account on my phone cause she's not a techie. I just want her Gmail to sync so I have a check next to just her Gmail account.
I hope that helps.
I don't think that the sync settings have anything to do with it. Besides, I need to have my work account synced up with at least mail, calendar, contacts, docs, etc.
I figured out how to properly switch accounts in Chrome. I should have completely signed out of my work account in the Chrome settings rather than through the "switch account" link at the bottom of the Google search results page. Once I did that, I was able to sign in with my personal account.
Edit: Chrome sync for my work account was turned off the entire time.
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I don't think that the sync settings have anything to do with it. Besides, I need to have my work account synced up with at least mail, calendar, contacts, docs, etc.
I figured out how to properly switch accounts in Chrome. I should have completely signed out of my work account in the Chrome settings rather than through the "switch account" link at the bottom of the Google search results page. Once I did that, I was able to sign in with my personal account.
Edit: Chrome sync for my work account was turned off the entire time.
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When you started the phone setup, did you put your work Gmail account in first? If so, that's probably why. I would suggest removing your work Gmail, then add it after a reboot. My hope here is that the personal account takes over a the primary, as I don't think you can do it any other way.
Edit: I've also read that your only hope may be a factory reset... But I would recommend the above method--you may also want to open chrome, play store, and other g-apps prior to adding your work account back.
No, I set up my personal account first. But yeah, I might have to try that and see if it works.