I'm on the old SERO plan from sprint and loath to lose it. I was planning on waiting until some winmo7 phones were out before deciding if i should jump ship, or at least upgrade to a new phone.
I found out that starting tomorrow sprint is going to be offering an upgrade option to sero users which will still be significantly cheaper then the regular plans, but allow me to use any phone they offer. I was strongly considering the EVO, or possibly the possibly the epic. Not sure if i prefer a bigger screen over a brighter screen with a keyboard or not.
Anyhow, i don't know much about winmo7. My current phone is winmo6.5 (touch pro 2) and i've installed a copy of android on it. Other then the glitches causes by running a hacked copy of android, i like android.
Just wondering what the opinions are here as far as the winmo7 operating system compared to android and what the hardware running winmo7 is going to look like compared to the epic or evo ?
thanks
so you already have the feel of the general look/feel of android through the use of the rom you have on your phone now. i suggest looking at pocketnow's videos on WP7 to make up your own mind.
http://pocketnow.com/tag/wp7-videos
This will help you get started with whether or not WP7 is to your liking, and whether you see it as something that can meet your expectations of what you would like in your next smartphone.
Of note, I was reading an article that has rumoured from Wallstreet Journal that AT&T will be the only carrier at launch to hold WP7 devices, so you may have to wait till Q1 2011 to get a device on any other US network. Or you could try and buy it outright if you can, and continue using your current plan.
WP7 isn't coming to sprint or verizon for another year or so. MS says 6 months, but I think its gonna be anywhere from 6-12 months.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/1698...ws_phone_7_launch_what_was_microsoft_thinking
So unless you can wait for WP7 to come on Sprint or switch carriers, it will be a long time before you own a device like that. By the end of october, the general public should have the final release of WP7 and by then you will have plenty of reviews comparing WP7 to Android, iOS, and a squirrel so you will have plenty of information to make a judgement.
of course Omni pretty much has his head up his butt with his guess, so ignore it. Microsoft has actually stated "First half of 2011, and that's being conservative"...so yeah, could be 6 months, could be less...could even be a lot less.
I'm probably going to go with the evo. Gonna see if i can find a local store that has the evo and epic in stock so i can compare them first.
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I'm probably going to go with the evo. Gonna see if i can find a local store that has the evo and epic in stock so i can compare them first.
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Can't go wrong with any device really. The Epic and Evo are both great phones. I don't think I'd be willing to wait.
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Can't go wrong with any device really. The Epic and Evo are both great phones. I don't think I'd be willing to wait.
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I might not wait either. Looks like the price i thought the phones were selling for on ebay isn't any better then sprint - although at least i still avoid a 2 year contract. One phone i was bidding for on ebay sold for just about the same exact price as sprint. Then again - i'll also avoid sales tax on ebay. So - maybe it is worth the wait
scratch that - got lucky - just snagged one for $330. Used for 1 month but supposed to be in perfect condition and with all the misc that comes with it. Seems like a good deal to me since that's $100 cheaper then what i would have paid through sprint, and i dont have to extend my contract either.
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of course Omni pretty much has his head up his butt with his guess, so ignore it. Microsoft has actually stated "First half of 2011, and that's being conservative"...so yeah, could be 6 months, could be less...could even be a lot less.
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How about you let people who know what they're talking about do the talking, as dumbasses usually don't know what they're talking about?
Did you ever think that in what you just quoted, "conservative" can go either way? As in that's AT LEAST how long it will take? Everyone is pointing to and MS is alluding to mid 2011 release, which falls into the 6-12 month window I and other said.
lol, less than 6 months? Thats march 2011 and before.
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scratch that - got lucky - just snagged one for $330. Used for 1 month but supposed to be in perfect condition and with all the misc that comes with it. Seems like a good deal to me since that's $100 cheaper then what i would have paid through sprint, and i dont have to extend my contract either.
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Nice, I'm trying to either buy a fascinate or Dinc digitizer replacement since I got a few scratches on my screen. I really would love the fascinate for that hummingbird.
i know you've already sought after another phone, but just so you know T-Mobile will be in on it as well, so it won't be just AT&T.
Yeah, but i really wanted to stay on sprint because i'm on the old sero plan and NO ONE can beat $30/month for what i get. And someone on here told me that sprint is going to offer an upgrade path to sero users. I'll be paying a little more then what i pay now, but it'll still be way cheaper then any other plan. So sprint has managed to get me to handcuff myself to them
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Yeah, but i really wanted to stay on sprint because i'm on the old sero plan and NO ONE can beat $30/month for what i get. And someone on here told me that sprint is going to offer an upgrade path to sero users. I'll be paying a little more then what i pay now, but it'll still be way cheaper then any other plan. So sprint has managed to get me to handcuff myself to them
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all good . well hopefully WP can improve and capture the hearts of those "wait-and-see" companies and you'll see it on Sprint when you decide next to update.
is winmo7 worth waiting for over android?
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No.
I'm not going to list all the reasons now, but Android is much better.
Personally, I'm still waiting with Android. There is no way I'm jumping ship to Android before it gets universal firmware updates straight from Google. It's a complete fiasco right now.
Hopefully the rumor that it's coming in Gingerbread is true.
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Personally, I'm still waiting with Android. There is no way I'm jumping ship to Android before it gets universal firmware updates straight from Google. It's a complete fiasco right now.
Hopefully the rumor that it's coming in Gingerbread is true.
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I assume gingerbread is the next version/update to android? I'm not worried about firmware updates. Seems like there's enough hacking going on that I'll probably wind up installing a hacked rom anyhow, instead of the official version.
Still waiting to get the phone. Probably get it in the mail tomorrow or monday.
1) You can always install ROMs from XDA.
2) Android phones in general are updated faster than all other phones (iPhone, BB,...).
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Hey everyone, need advice get an Evo now, I have a place to get one, or get a WP7 later and wait it out?
It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
If you're like 90% of the people who have the evo, you'll be eligible for a full handset upgrade every year through sprint premier ($70/mnth+ on single line, or $100/mnth+ family line)
If I had a handset upgrade every year, I'd probably get the epic or evo. You can always arrange a trade with someone if you really want a WP7 before your next upgrade
I would just get the Evo, WP7 just shot itself in the foot lately. Instead of going forward their going backwards no tethering, no internet browser options. I could go on and on. Ill look around next month for a upgrade as well since my contract is up. I hate to leave windows mobile 6.5 but no more support for my i637 jack.
But then again, it might be about half a year befor sprint and verizon get WP7 as MS is currently looking to only support GSM first.
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It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
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Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
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Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
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It might have. But WP7 is still light years ahead of that. Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about? I am extremely glad they took the course that they did. Photon was evolutionary, WP7 is revolutionary in terms of UI and platform. Would we have seen Silverlight and XNA (including Xbox Live) on Photon? no way. We'd still be using WinForms, maybe just slightly updated with some new controls and styling and gesture support. Ever since the Zune HD launched, many people were hoping Microsoft would make a phone based on that philosophy and that's what WP7 is. Metro is the ****.
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Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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That's where "jailbreaking" will probably come in.
Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
How much of you folks truly do use tethering? And who just make another fuzz just because? I'm sure most of you fall into the latter category.
Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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How much of you folks truly do use tethering?
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I can't say I use it often, but when I do, I really need it.
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Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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That's not really a solution. I need a new SIM, a new contract, another device to carry with me at all times, I need to remember to pay for it, etc. If I used it daily I would maybe get it, but for occasional use it's just a hassle.
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Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
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I wouldn't say apologetic. I'd say realistic. I just think that there is room for more than two operating systems as some people on this forum think. They view every consumer as a power user when it's far from true. Jailbreaking probably will happen but whenever I decide to buy a Windows Phone I'm not sure I will need to. I'm honestly waiting for one that has 4G for Verizon which probably won't come for the second half of next year. For the time being, I'm perfectly content with my Incredible.
I'd actually suggest that the OP buy the EVO if they're getting an upgrade next year anyway. By then there should be a great selection of 4G Windows phones if they so choose to go that way.
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I use it at least 20x a month.
There are a couple of threads on this out there, but I wanted to make a Poll.
So, right now I'm using my old HTC Hero with CM 6.1, and I love it. Rooting my phone made me fall in love with my smartphone all over again (it's my first smartphone).
So for those of you Sprint people, they told me that I can upgrade right now or when my contract is up, it won't matter: I will get the Evo for $200 with a new contract.
Before we dive in, do you know if this is really the cheapest option from Sprint? I am aware I could probably just buy an Evo from Ebay or something of the sort, but I'm a bit worried about doing that. Anyone has experience getting Evo somewhere else and can share?
I use my phone for a lot of things.. internet, calling, texting, games, even as a flashlight sometimes. I got myself an extra battery for this phone but I assume I will need a new one for the EVO. I see people asked about battery life, but seriously, I don't expect my phone to stay alive for more than 8 hours or so with all these apps running.
Next, what I like about the EVO is the better camera, and the fact that it has flash (I use my phone for pictures). Front facing camera is nice, haven't used it before, is it really worth it? Is chatting with it smooth, or is it slow as sh*t?
Keyboard - I used to hate the touch keyboard because it would freeze for split seconds and writing something would be frustrating. I still find it annoying to use the touch screen for typing because the buttons are so small. I have a feeling the evo would help with that, but perhaps I should wait for something with a real keyboard? Anyone knows of a good model that's suppose to come out, and when?
4G - I live in New York city. Anyone from around here knows if 4G is really available, or it just exists in very specific locations? Is it much faster? How do you like the fact that you can maintain data connection while making a call, is it a big deal? I don't barely actually use my phone for talking. I count on Gchat and texting.
Speed - There are speed issues with my phone right, especially when I run intense apps (angry birds is very choppy, for example, and Pandora can hang the entire system up), does the Evo take care of that?
Size - It's a big phone. To be honest, the weight and the size do not attract me, but I do realize that a bigger screen will be better to work with and might aid with the keyboard issue. Thoughts?
Rooting - How hard is it? I think CM runs on the EVO if memory serves right. I Rooted my Hero so I assume doing it to the EVO would not be much harder. Thoughts?
So yeah, these are some points I'm considering. Should I get it? And is there a cheaper (good!) way to get it?
Thanks for reading!
you posted in evo forum, expect biased answers, that said
you will love an evo! I had a hero first, still do. the batteries are the same,
the keyboard on the hero wasn't very accurate so typing was frustrating, on the evo it is splendid,
rooting is a breeze with unrevoked
no slowdowns at all for any apps, in any situation, I've been downloading while streaming pandora and playing games with no issue,
I highly recommend it, the evo changed the way I think of smartphones
I would wait to the end of march and see what sprint announces
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
I would wait as well. Some new phones should be coming out shortly
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I doubt an Evo 2 will come out anytime soon. So yes. The new phone coming out is most likely the HTC Arrive, which is the HTC 7 Pro. That aside, the Evo is just f*cking awesome. Also for individual line upgrade, Amazon says $180 with free 2-day shipping: http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003N9B3CY
CTIA is soon. Sprint announces new phones at CTIA. So I would wait. Unless you want to buy one off contract on Ebay.
WAIT for something better.. This bad ass brick will soon be replaced and become just a plain old acme brick soon
I have a bad feeling Sprint isn't gonna have much this year as far as Android devices go... we will see. An Evo 2 would be bad ass or a dual core Samsung.
Sent from my Evolutionized Evo!
I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
CTIA is guaranteed to give us something good. I am hoping for a Galaxy S2 or something equivalent. But then again... Sprint has been known to let you down. Tough call.
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they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
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You aren't paying $10 for a premium phone. You are paying the $10 for the premium data package, and All smartphones on the sprint network will be paying the exact same fee, its not isolated to the Evo, Shift, or Epic, it will encompass the blackberry's and all other android phones that sprint carries.
On topic of best deals for the EVO, check RadioShack's online wireless store. It's going for $149.99 with free activation on new/upgrade subs. Or in-store, they require a trade-in of any old working phone with a charger to get the $149.99 price (check with your local stores if the deal still available).
IMHO, with all the new phones coming out, I would wait. I love my Evo, but I wouldn't get locked into a new 2-yr sub on a phone that is around 4mos shy of being a year old.
I would wait. EVO is nice but nothing compared to what other carriers are getting (Optimus). Hold out for a dual core device (hopefully from HTC).
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I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
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I agree with this. Samsung left a bad taste with me after having my epic with GPS issues, dropped keys and no 2.2 (till just recently)
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heck yea its amazing i was skeptical too till i played with one
I love my Evo. That said I think it would work perfect for everything you listed except for one. The Evo's camera pretty much sucks.
I have a release day Evo, so maybe the newer ones are a little better, but unless the pictures I have taken were in bright daylight they are almost unusable.
http://www.studentrate.com/STUDENTR...deals/Sprint-Student-Rate-Member-Discount--/0
Not sure if studentrate still offers $69.99 Evos.
ATM The Evo is the best phone for Sprint. If you want to wait for something better you can. Personally this is the best phone I've ever used. While it is on par or a little worse than some of the newer phones coming out, its been a year and they are finally catching up.
You also have to take into consideration how much longer the Evo is going to stay ahead or on par with these phones. We might be seeing Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 but that might be a long shot.
If you aren't having any issues with your Hero, I'd say stick with it for a few more months. See what comes out.
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
beholder121 said:
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
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See: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
CTIA is this coming Tuesday. Sprint's presentation is hours long. I'd be sure to keep your eye out on here and other tech news sites for what Sprint announces. If that Evo 3D becomes a reality, I'd imagine anyone would want to hold out for that instead of acquiring the Evo now only to have the Evo 3D replace it in months.
Furthremore, if looking into T-Mobile and leaving Sprint (which, as a biased member, I would be against!), keep in mind that at 3:15 PM EDT, a merger between AT&T and T-Mobile was announced, the former acquiring the latter.
I am using the HTC trophy on Verizon. I went in to my local store and was asking about a charging cord (39.95 please), and i kid you not, the sales rep tried to get me to upgrade to an android phone. Im happy with my WP7, and have had android and didnt like it. So after telling the guy that i didnt need a new phone, i left. Now what upsets me is verizons lack of commitment to this OS. people want it, i want it, yet they only give you one phone (HTC trophy) with very low specs. My brother in law works for go wireless and his boss refuses to stock any WP& devices. And go wireless is essentially verizon. Thats is the companies stance on the OS. "no, no one wants that. Here, take one of these 45 android phones. They are way better. why? because they are android". Im so ****ing sick of all this verizon android basket. I dont want to switch to ATT to get a good device, but its making it look more and more probable with each passing day that verizon shafts the WP7 people. I know the kins didnt do so well, but thats verizons fault for requiring a data plan on a dumb phone. Point of my rant is this: i want something other than this trophy on verizon, yet they are making it so difficult to stay with them due to their constant hard on for android and their brief love affair with IOS. Another reason not to switch is i was grandfathered in to the unlimited data plan. Why must you make it so hard for me verizon!? I hate you, yet love your cell reception and unlimited data. Get more CDMA WP7 phones. How hard would it be to get that fujitsu number over here? not that hard i would assume. I would pay cash for that in a heart beat. Much like how i paid 400 some odd bucks the day the trophy came out for verizon.
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Amen, I feel the same way, if nothing is at least announced for Verizon by the end of 2011 I'll probably be going to AT&T because their phone line-up is better. It's a pity because I do like Verizon's service.
I'm not even asking for a new phone this year, I just want an announcement of a new phone. They're releasing so many Android phones per year, and they can't announce a new wp7 phone after half a year or so, it's kind of BS.
I emailed one of the higher ups at VW regarding this. I got an email and a call back from his assistant regarding my frustrations. Supposedly there will be new WP devices coming, but they wouldn't give a time frame.
Rumor on the net through a couple Nokia sites say that Verizon will be getting a high end Nokia WP, while AT&Crap and T-Mobile will be getting mid tier devices. I'm personally over HTC's battery life issues so I'm optimistic something better will be coming so I can finally make the switch from Android.
Do yourself a favour, if you see what you like on another carrier (at&t, Titan, Focus S, Focus Flash), check out the coverage and prices as best you can and if everything looks ok switch! Why sit around on a carrier that doesnt give you what you want, whether it be CS, coverage or the device you desire? Buy a prepaid phone, use it to confirm you will have coverage and if its a go make sure to tell vzw just why you are switching. Spread the word about your experience, and maybe in 10 years time they will pull their heads out of google's butt!!
That's probably because Verizon is Google's favorite carrier and gets more from Google than other carrieres do, just like Motorola will now be favored over other OEMs.
the deathstars cell service is awful where I live. Calls are always dropped, and the data plan is horrendous. If it weren't for those two things, I would have switched long ago. The only thing really keeping me with big red is the aforementioned unlimited data.
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I am using the HTC trophy on Verizon. I went in to my local store and was asking about a charging cord (39.95 please), and i kid you not, the sales rep tried to get me to upgrade to an android phone.
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
But the general idea of your topic, I understand, and its most certainly saddening to see how the market treats underdogs (not only Verizon). Though, I think you'll find that once the dollar signs start shifting toward WP7, the tune of most sales reps will also shift. They go where the money goes.
But when the rep tells me WP7 sucks like its fact and not opinion, that's when I tune out. And its sad because I feel that his behavior reflects on veizons opinion of WP7 in general besides, how are you gonna make tons of cash on a phone OS when you only have one model that supports it? Of course your gonna make a boatload of money if you have 19 phones that all have android on them
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I agree in general that VZW has little to no interest or support for WP7 and hopefully this changes with time as I too have little choice for good reception and am grandfathered on the unlimited data.
Google, Motorola, and Verzon are The Three Stooges. I'm suprised so many people here seem to have missed that...
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
But the general idea of your topic, I understand, and its most certainly saddening to see how the market treats underdogs (not only Verizon). Though, I think you'll find that once the dollar signs start shifting toward WP7, the tune of most sales reps will also shift. They go where the money goes.
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Blame yourself for the setup....going to the oem for charging solutions is a setup for fail.
Expecting a salesperson to backup an all but discontinued device (because you like it) is a second setup to fail.
Continuing to support that company month to month is the third setup for fail.
Vote with your money, and enjoy the device you want instead = win ?
Seems like the fowl taste WM and the Kin left in VWs mouth hasn't left pitty.
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...then Verizon should've been smart and got the HD2 instead of the Kin !
Ok ohgood, let me clarify a few things:
1. I was looking at charging cables. Its not like I ran in, brow sweaty demanding a cable and willing to pay any price.
2.funny how a device that's Been out since early summer is considered "discontinued". Only reason it is could be because VZW deemed it so. Way to give it a chance.
3.maybe you should read why I'm sticking with VZW (great cell service and grandfathered into unlimited data). I'm sure I mentioned it above. Let me check...yep. I did.
So it's hard to vote with ones wallet when my other choice is a cell carrier that drops calls or gets no service in my area all together. Heaven forbid I would like to get a phone that isn't based on specs from a year ago. So, my point still stands. Google might as well buy VZW so they can just outright say "all android, all the time"
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Oh and to add a point, I wasn't seeking an upgrade. I was just browsing,curious about data cables or whathaveyou, and when making small talk, he saw the phone and started off on "the facts" about why WP7 is awful. So he wasn't trying to find my needs. And I get they follow the money, but as I previously stated, of course your gonna make more money on an OS that has a carrier branded tv and radio spot, not to mention the wall sized posters of android phones in store. Yet every vzw store I've been to had the trophy for 2 weeks in a corner of the store where no one would see it. /end rebuttal
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Oh and to add a point, I wasn't seeking an upgrade. I was just browsing,curious about data cables or whathaveyou, and when making small talk, he saw the phone and started off on "the facts" about why WP7 is awful. So he wasn't trying to find my needs. And I get they follow the money, but as I previously stated, of course your gonna make more money on an OS that has a carrier branded tv and radio spot, not to mention the wall sized posters of android phones in store. Yet every vzw store I've been to had the trophy for 2 weeks in a corner of the store where no one would see it. /end rebuttal
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Yes, I read that about lack of quality cellular service, its familiar to me. He's just using sales tactics that usually work for him, or possibly pointing out reasons other customers have cited for moving to iphone4. Prolly gets him a contract renewal or sale 9/10.
Thing is, no matter how uninterested you are in their hardware choices, you're supporting them month to month.
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
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You're a good sales rep. Honestly. My last experience with a rep at a VW store went more or less as follows. I walk into the store just to look around because I had time to kill. The rep walks up and asks me what phone I have. I tell him a Focus and that I am on AT&T and am not interested in buying anything, I was just browsing. He proceeds to tell me that my phone's OS isn't any good, and that AT&T sucks (I can't really argue very much with that, though) -- I should switch to VW and get a Droid because they are the best phones available on the market. I asked him if he had ever used a WP7 -- he hadn't, of course. That conversation ended right there and I asked him to show me a Moto Xoom, which is another story.
I'm really on the fence when it comes to buying this. On the one hand it's seems like a really great phone with really great specs. I would be coming from the Samsung Epic.
On the other hand I'm really puzzled by how this phone is being released. Unlike the Evo,Epic and Nexus there is really a lukewarm reception as far as the retailers go. We're at launch day and places like Best buy, Radio shack are not really showing much interest.
The phone was released in Europe 10 months ago and seems like the US retailers are treating it as such. The low price $99 from Walmarts to the lackluster offerings from the retailers.
With the changes Sprint has made canceling Premier cutting the return time from 30 to 14 days and increasing the ETF. I wondering if they are just trying to get people to use their upgrade on what they consider a lesser/cheaper phone. So less people will use it on the Nexus Prime,Iphone 5.
I would really appreciate people opinions on this. I have my upgrade and cash in hand today. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I'm right there with you. I've had my upgrade for a while and have just been waiting. I am honestly now waiting for the iPhone 5 specs to be released. Depending on how it looks I will buy it or the epic touch. I still prefer android but I like trying all os's. As far as the prime goes..I don't think sprint will get it in 2011
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ervman1 said:
I'm right there with you. I've had my upgrade for a while and have just been waiting. I am honestly now waiting for the iPhone 5 specs to be released. Depending on how it looks I will buy it or the epic touch. I still prefer android but I like trying all os's. As far as the prime goes..I don't think sprint will get it in 2011
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If Sprint doesn't get the Prime this year then I'm afraid I'll have to ditch my Nexus S and get the Epic Touch. I just hope it gets Cyanogen Mod
OMG! It is hard to make decision about this E4GT, I know it has the best camera and high resolution as far as I know. I am using Photon 4G, it is great phone as well with dual networks (world phone), it is convenient when you step out from USA, you just pop in pre-paid gsm card, then you can connect the world. Gee, the hardest decision that I need to make. Any thoughts?
I am truely upset about how Sprint went about releasing this phone. I was able to preorder the EVO 3D a month before it was available at Bestbuy. Now, Bestbuy doesn't even know what the Epic Touch is. And it's release day....
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I am truely upset about how Sprint went about releasing this phone. I was able to preorder the EVO 3D a month before it was available at Bestbuy. Now, Bestbuy doesn't even know what the Epic Touch is. And it's release day....
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Sprint seems to have a much better relationship with HTC. They really go all out with regards to advertising and release hype.
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If Sprint doesn't get the Prime this year then I'm afraid I'll have to ditch my Nexus S and get the Epic Touch. I just hope it gets Cyanogen Mod
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I am kind of with you. I want the prime so I am waiting at least a few weeks I think to see.
Does anyone know if I will be able to get the phone at a discount price, since I'm not eligible yet till 3/23/2012. The phone plan is 3 Evo's and another cheap phone that does have an upgrade option. I want to get this phone, but I'm also interested in seeing the iphone 5
I just got it about 20 minutes ago and couldn't be happier. Coming from the evo 4g, the difference is night and day. You can natively ditch any bloatware. So much faster and lighter. I absolutely love this phone...and highly recommend it.
Btw, and im not sure how, but my gf and I both upgraded our phones on the same account and it only cost us $200 combined. We both sold back our evo's for $88 each. This was all done throu a sprint store...Brent, if you happen to read this THANKS BRO!!!
Finally, they confirmed that the nexus prime will be a verizon only phone. Not sure if that is true or not so you can take that for what you will.
Now bring on root
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I just got it about 20 minutes ago and couldn't be happier. Coming from the evo 4g, the difference is night and day. You can natively ditch any bloatware. So much faster and lighter. I absolutely love this phone...and highly recommend it.
Btw, and im not sure how, but my gf and I both upgraded our phones on the same account and it only cost us $200 combined. We both sold back our evo's for $88 each. This was all done throu a sprint store...Brent, if you happen to read this THANKS BRO!!!
Finally, they confirmed that the nexus prime will be a verizon only phone. Not sure if that is true or not so you can take that for what you will.
Now bring on root
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Verizon has exclusivity for the nexus prime but no one knows for how long. It's gonna have to be released on the other carriers but may not for some time.
Also, I just got back from my Sprint store where I played with the E4GT and it is simply mind blasting! The screen is so beautiful..my NS4G screen was dwarfed next to it...and of course the employees had downloaded all the benchmark apps. Quadrant was 3400 I am really having trouble fighting off the urges to get this phone...screw the iphone 5, lol
This phone is simply fantastic. So very glad I got it.
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I bit the bullet and got it!! haha well at least i have 2 weeks to decide to keep it. hopefully by then the iphone 5 will be announced and unless it is mind blowing, ill keep E4GT
I am in the same boat as the OP, I am upgrade eligible but don't want to jump in because of the next few phone announcements. I am also puzzled about how hush hush this release is, makes it seem like the phone is not important.
I was playing around with it in the Sprint store today and it is an absolutely beautiful phone. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I love that device, hopefully the phone has good battery life as well. The only thing I was not sure about was how large the phone is, may not be so comfy in your jeans.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting
I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true
I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.
eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.