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I love my Evo, but I am contently torn between fresh's sense rom and CM. I have a hole routine of going from one to the other and having to backup and reload every time I do. They both are great but have their strong and weak points. I know we will never have a perfect rom that satisfies everything so i would like to have the ability with a simple app, be able to switch between roms more easily. Much like Rom Manager but more stream-lined. have 2 different roms all set up and backed up on the phone and the app backup and load the other version and vice versa. but also have the ability to wipe out the previous back up when done switching. Im not asking for a fancy boot loader but more an automated Nandroid swapper. I have 20 bucks in it for someone to pull this off.

hi guys, what's going on in here?

WrongForum said:
hi guys, what's going on in here?
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Nice......

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$20? I really think a dev is worth more then that if he was going to obey your command. phew

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hi guys, what's going on in here?
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R....O....F....L....!

ricersniper said:
I love my Evo, but I am contently torn between fresh's sense rom and CM. I have a hole routine of going from one to the other and having to backup and reload every time I do. They both are great but have their strong and weak points. I know we will never have a perfect rom that satisfies everything so i would like to have the ability with a simple app, be able to switch between roms more easily. Much like Rom Manager but more stream-lined. have 2 different roms all set up and backed up on the phone and the app backup and load the other version and vice versa. but also have the ability to wipe out the previous back up when done switching. Im not asking for a fancy boot loader but more an automated Nandroid swapper. I have 20 bucks in it for someone to pull this off.
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$20 is not worth the pain in the ass of doing that...in fact I don't think an "app" could do that - ROM Manager is the closest you're going to get. Even if an app /was/ created, it still wouldn't be a quick jump from ROM to ROM, it would still take the same amount of time of restoring a nandroid. Next time, put a thread like this in the Themes and Apps section since you are requesting an application.

hey i dumped all my cash on the phone. if i had anymore than a 20 to my name i would throw it in i promise. besides their is enough interest in this i think others would be willing to throw in as well

this worked well last time >.>

ricersniper said:
I love my Evo, but I am contently torn between fresh's sense rom and CM. I have a hole routine of going from one to the other and having to backup and reload every time I do. They both are great but have their strong and weak points. I know we will never have a perfect rom that satisfies everything so i would like to have the ability with a simple app, be able to switch between roms more easily. Much like Rom Manager but more stream-lined. have 2 different roms all set up and backed up on the phone and the app backup and load the other version and vice versa. but also have the ability to wipe out the previous back up when done switching. Im not asking for a fancy boot loader but more an automated Nandroid swapper. I have 20 bucks in it for someone to pull this off.
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Hmm, so you want a Rom Manager clone does does 1 click backup/restore instead of 5/6 clicks on Rom Manager?

correct me if I'm wrong, but sounds to me like he wants, with one click, to backup his current rom AND switch to his alternate rom. that way every time he switches, his nandroid of the rom he switched from remains current. this would actually be pretty easy to write as a script I think. too bad I don't know how to do that
what would be even grander (and trickier) is to simultaneously have titanium backup do "redo backup" of user apps just prior to switching, and a "force restore" of user apps on bringing up the new rom, so even between nandroids, your user data stays current in your apps. how's that for dreaming.
no matter what, you've got the wait time to do all the backups. really, the better solution would be to run a separate version of android from an alternate location, like we used to do on the vogue. I used to be able to have 3 simultaneous bootable versions of android; one on nand, one on ext2, and one on the regular SD card. i could boot into each of them at will. now THAT'S what we need; I'd throw some money into the ability to boot from an ext3 partition.

tatnai said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but sounds to me like he wants, with one click, to backup his current rom AND switch to his alternate rom. that way every time he switches, his nandroid of the rom he switched from remains current. this would actually be pretty easy to write as a script I think. too bad I don't know how to do that
what would be even grander (and trickier) is to simultaneously have titanium backup do "redo backup" of user apps just prior to switching, and a "force restore" of user apps on bringing up the new rom, so even between nandroids, your user data stays current in your apps. how's that for dreaming.
no matter what, you've got the wait time to do all the backups. really, the better solution would be to run a separate version of android from an alternate location, like we used to do on the vogue. I used to be able to have 3 simultaneous bootable versions of android; one on nand, one on ext2, and one on the regular SD card. i could boot into each of them at will. now THAT'S what we need; I'd throw some money into the ability to boot from an ext3 partition.
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exactly....

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That's too funny, because it's true.
I actually keep going back and forth between the same 2 roms, I have both backed up and I make a new backup before switching to the other. The whole process takes less than 10 minutes but it's a bit of a pain and it would be cool to have it automated. $20 isn't much but I'm sure something like this would do fairly well on the market.
Edit: I've never really used Rom Manager too much but I was just playing around with it and it does everything the OP wants (as another person said, in 5 steps instead of 1) I didn't realize you could backup right from there as well and delete your old backups.

jerryparid said:
Hmm, so you want a Rom Manager clone does does 1 click backup/restore instead of 5/6 clicks on Rom Manager?
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he want's vmware for android... that's a pretty good idea actually. let you milk the cow before you buy it. i think i'll call there cost. service and see if they are interested

tatnai said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but sounds to me like he wants, with one click, to backup his current rom AND switch to his alternate rom. that way every time he switches, his nandroid of the rom he switched from remains current. this would actually be pretty easy to write as a script I think. too bad I don't know how to do that
what would be even grander (and trickier) is to simultaneously have titanium backup do "redo backup" of user apps just prior to switching, and a "force restore" of user apps on bringing up the new rom, so even between nandroids, your user data stays current in your apps. how's that for dreaming.
no matter what, you've got the wait time to do all the backups. really, the better solution would be to run a separate version of android from an alternate location, like we used to do on the vogue. I used to be able to have 3 simultaneous bootable versions of android; one on nand, one on ext2, and one on the regular SD card. i could boot into each of them at will. now THAT'S what we need; I'd throw some money into the ability to boot from an ext3 partition.
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nicholaaaas said:
he want's vmware for android... that's a pretty good idea actually. let you milk the cow before you buy it. i think i'll call there cost. service and see if they are interested
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no what we need is dual boot. the vogue has it, and it's a freakin old phone. the kernel would just have to be modified to include the ability to boot from an alternate location (sdcard ext3 partition), and then you would modify a recovery image (armon's for example) to set which partition to boot from.
two bootable locations is the answer, really. it was the $hit on the vogue. kept my daily use on nand, and my tester on ext3. sweetness.

this is a simple concept. dual boot would be great but i would settle for just one touch switching. and with rom manager it is 5 steps but some of those steps involve rebooting and waiting for it. it shouldn't be to difficult.

jerryparid said:
Hmm, so you want a Rom Manager clone does does 1 click backup/restore instead of 5/6 clicks on Rom Manager?
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I want a Pony! Perferably a Unicorn Pony!

tatnai said:
the kernel would just have to be modified to include the ability to boot from an alternate location
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No this would require a modified bootloader and isn't simple at all. Especially considering that developing it would run a high risk of bricking the phone during testing.

[Q] Several Noobish questions

i have a couple of questions that are burning a hole in my head so i need to let loose with them.
1)
how can i tell what rom i flashed? i know dumb a$$ question but i forgot which rom i flashed since it was one that came out the night 2.2 official was dumped and it was the first stock 2.2 deodexed released.
i have several (ok a crap load) downloaded and a few on my sdcard. how can i tell which stock deodexed 2.2 rom i flashed? is there an app that will tell me. Phone's software info doesnt have the authors name in the version name, so i cant tell which.
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i want to try a few other rom's but dont want to lose the rom i have because everyting works 100% and i like that, regardless of who makes the rom.
what can i use to backup my current phone memory so that if i dont like the other roms i can just revert back.
nand backup doesnt do this right? (even though the size of the backup to me denotes it just might be the ticket)
3)
is there an app, via market, here, or sdk tools/emulator where i can take and tweak the speed at which things open.
its my thought that many roms are faster because the opening speed is altered so things open faster. just like you can do in LauncherPro.
is there a way that i can do this within the phone or externally to a file or two and then adb it back to the phone?
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i will add more, i am forgetting some i know.

1) well i can tell you what kernel, by going to about phone> software info
2)use rom manager when installing new rom, and itll ask u to make a backup, so when ever u want to go back to the old rom, restoe u last backup
3)i dont know about open close speed, but for phone speed itself, use setCPU and that controls how much of the CPU is being used when its (charging, screen off, etc.)

thanks Rocklee,
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kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
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i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
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setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.

v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
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kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
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i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
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setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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2) ROM Manager is just fine. If you buy into the rumors about ClockworkMod not wiping correctly, just flash Amon RA instead, you can use either one with RM. You can download ROMs over the normal Internet, too, you know. Just copy them to the root of your SD card.

v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
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kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
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i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
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setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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1 - check the software information screen under software number - some devs put their infor there - mine says "Baked Snack 1.2.5" telling me exactly what ROM I'm using.
2 - I don't use ROM Manager anymore because frankly, I just don't trust it. I don't know what it's wiping when it says clear cache, and there have been too many questions with how efective it wipes, even through recovery. Having said that, if you do want to back up, I would recommend not doing it through rom manager, but directly through recovery instead (hold volume down and power with the phone off). From here, you can nand a full backup, and also restore that backup to get your phone to the exact same state it was in if you screw up somewhere.
3 - nothing on this - pretty sure that's specific to launcherpro.

Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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v_lestat said:
Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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Just a quick tip using Nand....once you create a backup, plug your phone in to your computer, go on to your SD card in the folder named "nanadroid" open it and then open the folder with your device name on it and "rename" your backup to whatever you want. I created about 5 backups and then I wanted to flash a previous one and couldnt figure out which file was which lol. Oh and remember not to use spaces when renaming....use_underscores.

Launcherpro has setting that controls open and close speed. Stock is set at 4, but I set mine at 10, and everything is instant.
Edit: disregard, I didn't read your questions fully, sorry. Didn't see you mentioned Launcherpro.
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Help, constant crashes & reboots

Sorry about double posting, but I am getting desperate (posted on Q&A).
Can't find an answer to this on google or xda. Didn't know if I should post this in General or Q&A.
I have been using my Incredible since it came out. I quickly learned about rooting, roms, s-off... with no problems. I have been running Skyraider almost from the beginning.
Here is the problem: A few days ago, I noticed on the SR thread that there were updates for the radio and hboot. So, I went ahead and flashed them. Almost immediately I started noticing the screen becoming unresponsive. After a minute or two I did a battery pull, rebooted, and again after a little while, freeze and reboot. I also noticed that even when the phone is awake but screen off, it would wake itself up. The rebooting and freezing makes it impossible to use my phone.
I tried everything I could think of:
Nandroid restore (obviously didn't work since this doesn't effect hboot or radio).
Reinstalled fresh SR Rom wiping everything, including dalvik, and did factory reset.
Finally, I downgraded back to the hboot and radio versions I had before, still no effect. (Baseband version 2.15.00.07.28, hboot .79 ).
I tried installing another ROM (Uncommon sense) to make sure it wasn't a ROM issue, ..same problem.
Please, any help would be much appreciated. I don't know what my next step should be.
PS, I am not overclocking, just using stock kernel.
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try downgrading to completely stock 2.1 then see if it keeps doing it...otherwise I'd say that maybe you did something wrong installing a file and it's bricked...that's what it sounds like anyways
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pete_kowalski83 said:
try downgrading to completely stock 2.1 then see if it keeps doing it...otherwise I'd say that maybe you did something wrong installing a file and it's bricked...that's what it sounds like anyways
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Today it's running a bit better. I'll keep testing it, if it continues to crash, I will take your suggestion and go back to 2.1 and start over.

Just a thought: are you restoring your stuff via Titanium? If so, you may be restoring a bad / incompatible system instruction. You might try this: Do a master reset and restore your important apps (not data) one at a time to check performance. Install data later (also individually) as needed.
HTH!

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Just a thought: are you restoring your stuff via Titanium? If so, you may be restoring a bad / incompatible system instruction. You might try this: Do a master reset and restore your important apps (not data) one at a time to check performance. Install data later (also individually) as needed.
HTH!
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I did use Titanium (apps & data, but not system). I am currently testing Uncommon Sense Rom. Been running fine last 2 days. Idk why.
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I need help!!!!!

i downloaded an app to change the battery icon (i can't recall the exact app). it automatically reboots the phone to make the changes, but when it rebooted it got stuck at the startup screen where is says "Galaxy S" and it does the little vibration like when an app forcecloses.
Anyone know what i can do to fix my phone? i am on a rooted samsung epic 4g

Well you say you are rooted but do you have cwm installed?

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Well you say you are rooted but do you have cwm installed?
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yes i do have Clockwork mod

That app, I believe, is used to grab specific versions of the mod for specific phones with specifc ROMs. Unless you're running the rom required, it will lock the phone like that. You will have to restore a backup through clockwork, you did make one I hope, or adb push the original file back...otherwise its time to wipe and reload.

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That app, I believe, is used to grab specific versions of the mod for specific phones with specifc ROMs. Unless you're running the rom required, it will lock the phone like that. You will have to restore a backup through clockwork, you did make one I hope, or adb push the original file back...otherwise its time to wipe and reload.
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yeah i made a backup, i went into recovery mode and tried to restore but it just did the exact same thing as before!!!! i also tried to factory reset and it still does the same thing i am completely baffled.

mvelasquez21 said:
yeah i made a backup, i went into recovery mode and tried to restore but it just did the exact same thing as before!!!! i also tried to factory reset and it still does the same thing i am completely baffled.
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I've had the battery mod cause me headaches before. CWM restores won't work, you'll need to Odin to revert back. Something to do with where the battery mod files write to.

Electrofreak said:
I've had the battery mod cause me headaches before. CWM restores won't work, you'll need to Odin to revert back. Something to do with where the battery mod files write to.
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thanks for your help everyone... does anyone know where the link is on how to use odin? i have never used that before

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700#Odin_Stock_Flashing
I updated that wiki myself about a month ago, so all the links should work and everything should be accurate. Let me know if there are any issues with the wiki or ways it could be improved.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700#Odin_Stock_Flashing
I updated that wiki myself about a month ago, so all the links should work and everything should be accurate. Let me know if there are any issues with the wiki or ways it could be improved.
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ok that worked great i appreciate the help. now back to square one with rooting the phone and adding clockwork lol

[Q] Lost apps after accidentally overclocking too much

I have rooted HTC evo. Using sprintlovers rom
I just installed netarchy kernel on my p hone and I accidentally overclocked too far and my phone froze. I waited and tried pressing the buttons etc but eventually had to pull the battery.
Now it says for many apps that "linked program is no longer installed on your phone"
I backed up everything just before this happened with AMON RA or whatever its called. What is the best route of action for me to recover from this? Just reinstall my apps or should I use a recovery option?
MY RSA key is still present which is good..
I guess I shouldn't have messed with the overclocking lol

If you just restore your latest backup, you'll be okay, or restore apps from titanium. Also, anything over 1.2 GHz, will make your phone spazz.

teh roxxorz said:
If you just restore your latest backup, you'll be okay, or restore apps from titanium. Also, anything over 1.2 GHz, will make your phone spazz.
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*Clicks Thanks button*
Restoring now. Will this also restore my stock kernel or will I remain on netarchy.
OOPS just realized I forgot to clear my cache and dalvik before restoring.. hope it will be alright. Is that very bad? I guess I got excited...
E: Error in CACHE:recovery/log (No space left on device) is an error I got but says restore is complete. It actually said that like 4 times .
any input?

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Restoring now. Will this also restore my stock kernel or will I remain on netarchy.
OOPS just realized I forgot to clear my cache and dalvik before restoring.. hope it will be alright. Is that very bad? I guess I got excited...
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Why thank you
And it'll restore whatever kernel you had when on the backup at that time, so I will say the netarchy kernel, also you don't need to clear your cache when restoring, cuz the restoration puts it back to what it was at that time. I never wipe when restoring and never had a problem.
Edit: apparently you didn't have enough storage to complete the cache, but try booting up and see what happens.

teh roxxorz said:
Why thank you
And it'll restore whatever kernel you had when on the backup at that time, so I will say the netarchy kernel, also you don't need to clear your cache when restoring, cuz the restoration puts it back to what it was at that time. I never wipe when restoring and never had a problem.
Edit: apparently you didn't have enough storage to complete the cache, but try booting up and see what happens.
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Eh I already went ahead and wiped both and re-restored so now its restoring again. I didn't figure it would hurt to be on the safe side. Thanks a lot for your help this stuff makes me nervous its my first time doing it but I'm getting accustomed to it.

Action B said:
Eh I already went ahead and wiped both and re-restored so now its restoring again. I didn't figure it would hurt to be on the safe side. Thanks a lot for your help this stuff makes me nervous its my first time doing it but I'm getting accustomed to it.
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It clearly doesn't hurt, and it if makes you feel comfortable, then by all means do it.

teh roxxorz said:
It clearly doesn't hurt, and it if makes you feel comfortable, then by all means do it.
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Wow, Okay my phone is perfect again. Also I did a setCPU benchmark and its much better on the stock kernel.
Short bench on netarchy was around 500ms, long around 700ms
On the stock kernel i have
Short bench - 230ish ms consistently and long is 370ish ms consistently
What gives? I tried all different clock speeds on netarchy/toast kernel and it was much worse?
Also my phone is smoother with stock kernel by a lot I think I'll leave it be.
Any explanation for this? I'm stumped but pumped its so easy to go back to everything being perfect!

Action B said:
Wow, Okay my phone is perfect again. Also I did a setCPU benchmark and its much better on the stock kernel.
Short bench on netarchy was around 500ms, long around 700ms
On the stock kernel i have
Short bench - 230ish ms consistently and long is 370ish ms consistently
What gives? I tried all different clock speeds on netarchy/toast kernel and it was much worse?
Also my phone is smoother with stock kernel by a lot I think I'll leave it be.
Any explanation for this? I'm stumped but pumped its so easy to go back to everything being perfect!
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Personally, you don't need to worry about bench marks, just of how it actually performs. And every phone is different, in that it'll take to kernels differently. So if you had better performance on the other kernel, then that's the one you need to be on.

teh roxxorz said:
Personally, you don't need to worry about bench marks, just of how it actually performs. And every phone is different, in that it'll take to kernels differently. So if you had better performance on the other kernel, then that's the one you need to be on.
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Yeah the stock kernel was much smoother and all around faster, I really wanted the full HDMI feature of that netarchy kernel though.

Just to follow up on this. I reflashed the kernel and it worked great.
Apps that disappear I got to come back with a cache/dalvik cache wipe.