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Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav

The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.

That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/

Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards

Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM

i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.

Sleuth255 said:
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.

Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!

Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.

Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM

marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks

Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...

I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.

I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.

chg1282002 said:
Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs

All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end

marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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thanks a lot

Artemis Vanilla 4.01 and Touch 4.01 issues

I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.

josef.bilek said:
I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, how long do u have such problems and who is ur mobile operator. according to ur name I suppose that u r from Czech Rep.
I'm asking b'cause during last weekend I had also problem with my phone which leaded to reflashing of my phone but it was problem of operator.
I'm by O2 and have O2 XDA Orbit. I wasn't able to get any sms or report of delivery, i could send them only. and now i have bit different problem, sometimes sms from me is delivered, is shown in phone but it is something what i sended already before and then it dissapears from phone reciever's phone.
Such serious problems with ROM are strange, b'cuause those ROMs are out more then month and as I know, nobody had the same problem as u. I'm using Touch 4.01 without cube from first day when it was published here with no problem. i'm not couting problem with memory leaking which is probably problem of wm6.1 rom in general then Touch 4.01.

No, I am not only one who referring this problem. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375930
Correct, I am from CZ and using T-Mobile, but in roaming quite often. But it happens independently on network. Touch Full 4.01 was more or less horrible, Vanilla 4.01 is better, but still time to time is freezing the radio part. To avoid discussion about radios, I have tried last 3 versions with the same result (3.08,2.98,2.97). But I really believe that problem is with OEMDrivers in Bepe's Kitchen. What Bepe even highlighted, that these drivers in first version are for different type of phone. The most stable version, what I had, it was B&B4.2 for more than 1/2 year. But of course WM6.1 is much faster. It was my reason for upgrade.

ok, then i cannot help, this is up on guys which r cooking ROMs.
will cross my fingers for u to solve this problem. it is nice from guys that they provided new ROMs based od WM 6.1 two months earlier than Macro**** but such serious problem takes us back to prehistory, b'cause having phone with which u r scared to call b'cause of freezing has no point.

Same problem here, flashed a lot of different roms to my device but only having these freeze problems since touch 4.01.
Right now it's only once per week. But it's been much worse: reboot, lock after 30 secs, freeze 5 secs later, repeat. Had to reflash my device. (And i always flash twice with a new rom).
I hope the fix is as easy as just building the rom with a newer version kitchen.

same problem for me.
i am running 4.01 Touch with full cube, operator is orange netherlands.
sometimes i have to reset the phone 3 times a day, after that i get a whole lot of sms (normal) and the calls i missed.
going to try 4.02 now, hope that's one's better

doesnt matter what version do you use - but always flash twice(one by one) and make a hard reset after flashing. Result is - much more stable work.

@d3ton4tor
I'm on dutch orange too, but haven't had a problem with touch lite 4.01. I'm using touch vanilla 4.02 now and still no probs.. I've got a MDA Compact tho..

I never had any problems with 4.01, or any of the previous roms, but since using 4.02 i have had several lockups now, about once a week. So maybe i better reflash it again see if that cures it ?

It is interesting. I have made update for Touch Vanilla 4.02 and everything works perfect. Sometime the less is more. I would never go for all Cube staff, it is only the memory eater from my perspective. I have realized that I can remove from StartUp folder WiFi link (I have T-Mobile ARTE110 - WiFi missing) and it is better. Under more or less conditions above 20 MB and it is very valuable especially for navigation SW like iGO.

Try PagePool 8M
Try PagePool 8M.
Pagepool
My English is so bad.

Or try the 4.02 it works fine here in my HTC 3300 also t-mobile client ;-).
Flashed it yesterday and works fine no freeze or what ever, even gps and radio works fine.
Greetz THeM

Destinator n maps
hey i just installed destinator 7 on my o2 orbit it doesnt detect the map infact no map at all
can any1 help me with this???

Hi,
You need to ensure that the maps folder is included in the destinator apps folder. That is when your destinator would be able to detect the maps.
By the way can you share your Destinator 7 (Mumbai Map) with me ??
Regards,
kailash

I too have problems with the Touch 4.1 vanilla rom but my issues manifested themselves after I had been using the rom for a while without any problems. Now I run out of memory quicker when using PIE and have to reset a lot more. Also sometimes am unable to connect to GPRS/EDGE without a reset. I will be trying any new roms that come out but its becoming clear to me that I need to upgrade.

Probelm with WiFi

Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.

I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.

HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!

Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.

and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?

utak3r said:
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1

My Location/Weather Not Working

Guys I know this has been covered in other threads and I've searched for hours, reading every thread I can, and I still cannot come up with a fix for this.
I am running a Tmobile Branded Touch Pro2, unlocked, hard SPL of course, with EnergyROM Photon Standard WM6.5 v 20091011 which is very slick by the way. My radio is version 4.49.25.05.
For whatever reason "My Location" doesn't work and Weather does not download. I have checked all the obvious things like making sure autoupdate is set, location service is on, etc etc. As a side note, Google Maps seems to locate me just fine, Bing is flaky at best.
Any thoughts???

Known issue. It doesn't work in custom roms.

If I load the Standard TMobile ROM that I saw posted here for the Touch Pro2 will My Location start working again?
Is there a way to go back to the shipped radio version as well?

this has been discussed many times...my location for some reason does not work on 3g even with the stock rom...but it will work when u switch to edge..just try it out..

Mixplus said:
Guys I know this has been covered in other threads and I've searched for hours, reading every thread I can, and I still cannot come up with a fix for this.
I am running a Tmobile Branded Touch Pro2, unlocked, hard SPL of course, with EnergyROM Photon Standard WM6.5 v 20091011 which is very slick by the way. My radio is version 4.49.25.05.
For whatever reason "My Location" doesn't work and Weather does not download. I have checked all the obvious things like making sure autoupdate is set, location service is on, etc etc. As a side note, Google Maps seems to locate me just fine, Bing is flaky at best.
Any thoughts???
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First of all it does work in custom roms -- it's working on my phone and mine is a custom rom. Many people have posted about how with this cooked rom or what that new radio-rom that now My location works. But, that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work -- just that it can work.
And, believe it or not, mine only works when I have a 3G connection...I don't know why, but it's true -- tested again and again.
I'm currently running the Photon Oct-11 manila2.l OS-rom with the 4.49.25.17 radio rom.
One accurate way to put it is: Try this, try that...and -- depending on where you live, maybe...it might work! Good Luck!

Bluetooth issue with wm 6.5 and sense 2.5

Ok here's my problem:
I make custom dutch roms for the Rhodium (touch pro 2).
I use the latest XIP/SYS builds (28009 at this moment) and I use manila/sense 2.5
(Almost) everything works great!
I also own a pioneer car-entertainment set (avic f900bt) which has a built in parrot bluetooth carkit.
Pairing goes perfect and I can transfer my phonebook and make calls.
The problem is that when I recieve a call and try to hang up the system hangs and needs a reset. My TP2 also hangs for a while after such an event and then after minutes goes back to the today screen.
At first I thought it was my carkit, but my wife's samsung and my brother in law's blackberry work fine.
Then I tried my own phone with the latest OFFICIAL 6.5 rom (dutch) and it worked great.
So I started to trial and error with different adjusted roms. I got it all working with the newest XIP/SYS builds. But the problem seems to lie somewhere in manila 2.5. I even got it working in manila 2.1 without any bugs
But with 2.5 I get the problems above. And I forgot to mention another bug:
- When I make a call or recieve a call I do not see a 'red phone' button to hang up which I do see with other phone's or roms without manila 2.5. So I have to end a call on my HTC instead of my carkit. And when I try after recieving a call it hangs as described above.
After 2 weeks of flashing and trying I give up...
I use the OEM from the latest official dutch 6.5 rom so those drivers can not be the issue. As stated before...It's all pointing to manila 2.5. But after flashing disabling manila does not fix the problem. So it must be somewhere in the cooking proces (Ervius VK 1.82)
Please one of you supreme chefs help me out here because it's frustrating me now and I want to get it working as it should.
Thanks a milion in advance!!
EDIT: to the mods; I did not know where exactly to post this after the re-organisation. So please move if neccesary.

Almost 170 views and no comments??
Please fellow cooks...I'm desperate...

Well i do think you already have an answer.
But the actual non existing pressure you feel from users that always want the latest no matter how buggy it might be
When MS started to "Leak" builds beyond 20000 (But before 21054).
I also started noticing Bluetooth pairings going haywire and acting differently.
As i don't care that much about what most "Flashers" think and tend to believe that the choices i make concerning cooking a rom are probably more founded in what is right.
I tend to stick to stable OS Builds. It's the New Age XDA dilemma, either dish out unpredictable New Builds, or make a ROM that in the first place Suits you and has the functionality You need.
In this case that would be an older SYS.
I think that also because of TP2 has now switched to different Bluetooth Stack and 2.1+EDR isn't helping.
And it might be that MS is actually working on getting up to speed and changing their own BT Stack, so HTC will not need to turn to WidComm for the BT Stack.
I do believe that there are a few Senior Cheffs and some Non Cheffs do probably know which other parts (besides the Obviously named Bluetooth related SYStem parts), might be related to dealing with Bluetooth Pairing and such.
Whatever solution there might or might not be, don't hesitate to make it hybrid.
Use the old fashioned method of dividing and conquering.
(Get a good supply off Coffee)
Start with Stable Release Build SYS replace 50% test. (leaving all obviously Bluetooth related Packages from Stable Build)
Replace the Next 25% Test etc, you know the drill.
And hopefully isolate the Packages from SYS that have related Files to Bluetooth.
Luckily there's already enough SYS packages you can rule out like enterprise, entertainment, Office and such.
I know it's not a cut and dried answer, but hopefully i can "Je een hart onder de riem steken" that your up against this alone ATM.
But consider this, how many time do you have at hand, and is it worth it putting a lot of time into it, only finding out MS fixes it in a few "Leaked" Beta Builds.
Who knows maybe this Bump does get a few others on to this thread that has already tackled this problem.
(Da_G is the most likely, that i know that might know other Bluetooth dependencies inside the SYS)
Cheerz,
PS: don't forget to enjoy the snow a bit.

Pairing with Avic f900BT
I too have the exact same problems. The phone is straight out of the box.
Any easy ansewrs as yer?

Magic3091 said:
I too have the exact same problems. The phone is straight out of the box.
Any easy ansewrs as yer?
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I got it working on mine using the attached cab