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Hi all,
I was reading on this forum, and also read the thread in which the battery lifetime of OpenDesire and DeFrost are 'compared' in a poll. In this thread there are really differing experiences with the battery lifetime of both of them.
Reading this thread I can only conclude that the ROM itself is not the issue, but some app or setting is eating my battery. When I turn the phone in fly-mode before going to bed (battery full) I wake up next morning, and there's only about 60% - 65% capacity left...
When I take a look at the battery statistics I see that 60% is used for standby, 30% for the OS, and the rest is for other stuff. I did kill all applications before going to bed, and I've a task manager which is on 'safe autokill' every hour...
How can I find what's eating my battery?
First of all, stop using that task killer to auto kill - at least for the duration of your investigations! It will do you no good if you are trying to work out what is causing your problem. Similarly, if you are using any battery "savers" or monitors (e.g. JuiceDefender, SetCPU etc), deactivate them all.
Secondly, take a look at the partial wake usage on the phone to see if anything is keeping the phone from sleeping. You can find this via Spare Parts, or by entering *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer - then select Battery History and from the first drop down select "Partial wake usage".
Thirdly, if you've had no success finding out what is causing your battery drain, I suggest that you make a Nandroid backup before you put the phone on charge, wipe it, put in in Airplane mode then leave it overnight in a vanilla state to see if this affects the battery consumption. If you are still getting excessive battery drain, I'd suggest reflashing a different ROM might be a good idea.
Regards,
Dave
wow... Thanks for your impressive reply! Not really used to such detailed replies on forums ;-)
Will try this, and post the results if I still have problems. Thanks!
Everything I have is stock, got the OTA 2.2 update, then rooted using unrevoked.
Since then, my battery life has been pathetic. My up time is 46 hours, and awake time is 43.5 hrs, meaning my phone's been awake for almost all the time. This is what I'm guessing is causing the battery to die so quickly, but I don't know what is causing it or how to even find out what is causing it.
How do I go about fixing this?
Thanks
Go to Settings --> About Phone --> Battery Use.
I'll bet there's one application hogging up a whole lot of %. Uninstall if you don't want it, or come and post back with what it is and we'll see what's what.
Cell standby 32%
Phone idle 29%
Android System 24%
Display 9%
Maps 4%
Internet 2%
Is what it's showing.
Try this, it improved my battery life significantly
1) Install battery left from the market
2) Charge battery completely with it powered on using wall charger
3) Leave cable plugged in
4) Reboot to bootloader and go into recovery then advanced and wipe battery stats
5) Reboot phone
6) Go into Battery Left settings and recalibrate
7) Unplug the cable
Now use it normal and see how it does.
sounds like an App problem... i would download SystemPanel by NextApp and enable monitoring to find out what it causing your problem. Once you find out just remember to disable the monitoring.
i guarantee you will get your moneys worth... i believe it's $2.99
EDIT: or you can try SpareParts... i believe it's free on the market but it doesn't go as in depth as SystemPanel.
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
Checkout this thread to see if the gsiff_daemon is your problem. tl;dr when the system is hot and tearing through the battery, go to system settings -> Developer options -> and check Show CPU usage. If gsiff_daemon is the top or second highest on the list, then that is your problem. To solve it for the moment, use system tuner, or something else, to kill gsiff_daemon. There is no permanent cure at the moment, other than to delete gsiff_daemon. Both of those fixes require root, the non-root fix is to reboot.
If gsiff_daemon is not on the list, then something else is the problem, but Show CPU Usage should give you an idea of what system process is running hard.
Samsung Push problem
J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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Interesting, I installed "micro cpu monitor" shows thin line at top of screen showing both cores.
I haven't had this happen for some time now but after playing with google play and maps downloading offline maps etc I noticed my 2nd core pegged out.
Having seen this in the past & ignoring it I now realize that majorly drains the battery as well as it getting warm.
A simple reboot seems to be the only thing that fixes it. Clearing ram and closing recent screens dies nothing to clear the "cpu jam".
If left alone, it always shows the culprit as "android system"
As to what part of "android system" I don't know.
But until we figure this out for good, that little micro cpu monitor. App is sweet for peace of mind to know all is well or whether a reboot is needed. For what it's worth, I also noticed that after the event, that my auto rotate to landscape was mysteriously unchecked?
If it jams again, I'll have to see if it gets unchecked again, unknown if there is a relation.
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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That happened to me too. But for me, flashing another rom fixed it.
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Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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Swaggernaut said:
Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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No there is a cwm flashable fix floating around here for that
Galaxy SIII via XDA premium
do any of you guys have the "increase volume in pocket" setting on in phone-->settings?
also do any of you have motion settings enabled and/or autorotation on?
Seems it has to do with the gyro issue
also are you guys rooted or non-rooted?
Contact sync?
i noticed this today and while troubleshooting, noticed contact sync from google says "sync is currently experiencing problems..." maybe?
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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I read the thread about gsiff_daemon culprit. I had it listed as a possible battery drain culprit. The thread says the issue may happen after a hot reboot...which I did have. Killing gsiff_daemon was not immediately effective. I renamed the file so it wouldn't get used...like the thread recommended. I had to reboot to get normal battery drain back and have yet to see the issue again. But i wont know for some time...or maybe when/if i get a hot reboot...which is really rare. Do yourself a favor, and buy better battery stats. Its a must have tool...and it's not expensive.
I wonder if this problem has been solved with latest lj7 jellybean from sprint
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so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
eatonjb said:
so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
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My experience with froyo/gb/ics is that things have been getting progressively better over the years. But with each so called UPGRADE of an OS or even APPS, we often have to deal with bugs or incompatibilities. I am eager to upgrade to a stock based JB soon, but wisdom says, for 20 things improved, there will be 5 things broken....or hurting in some way. Early adopters suffer the most as usually these issues get ironed out...most of them.
BUT...these stuck drains...wake locks etc., it seems they will happen when they do no matter how many issues get fixed. Over the years, I've had random standby drains caused by Maps/Nav. Maybe it's ok for months, then after a particular update, it's back...and unpredictable. The YES...a reboot, just like with a PC, is a quick short term workaround.
Finally, with the App CURRENT WIDGET, there is a provision to watch for high drain in standby. It watches MilliAmp (ma) readings over time..to determine if you have a rogue drain. That's different than monitoring the CPU. (Some drains do not cause much CPU activity) BUT UNFORTUNATELY, that app won't work with our S3's because of a lack of hardware support. Works great with HTC and many others. It's a bummer because I used to use it and have my HD2 reboot if a 15min consecutive high drain was recorded in standby....thereby saving the battery and usually killing the bug.
Crapppp
Jellybean didn’t solve it. Gsiff_daemon just popped up for me. Just renamed it AGAIN.
Hopefully it won't pop up again
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Was taking a look at my battery info this morning, when I noticed something very strange (see attached picture).
As you can see, the battery usage graph is there as normal - but there's no info displayed below it with regards to what apps are consuming the battery. Most annoyingly, there's also no obvious way to check the screen-on time.
Any ideas? Anyone seen this before?
I'm running MiNCO v4 with Franco's latest nightly 246, but flashing back to Milestone 5 didn't help. Neither did wiping cache/dalvik, fixing permissions or reflashing the ROM.
I guess the next step is to do a factory wipe, but I'm reluctant to do so because it's a real pain in the behind.
Try to wipe only the battery stats in recovery
Just had this happened to me on Moto Atrix HD running JB 4.1.1ATT original ROM on T-mobile service, rooted, bootloader unlocked. All aforementioned configurations put in place well before loosing batter stats. The only other "fix" I've seen for this was a ROM restore. Did you have any luck fixing this by factory wipe or other method?
D'oh! The per-application battery stats came back at the next full charge. On thing that can throw this off is that some battery meters report 100% at a point when the android system does not yet consider it full and if you stop charging at that point the stats may not refresh.
Sailor Saucy said:
Was taking a look at my battery info this morning, when I noticed something very strange (see attached picture).
As you can see, the battery usage graph is there as normal - but there's no info displayed below it with regards to what apps are consuming the battery. Most annoyingly, there's also no obvious way to check the screen-on time.
Any ideas? Anyone seen this before?
I'm running MiNCO v4 with Franco's latest nightly 246, but flashing back to Milestone 5 didn't help. Neither did wiping cache/dalvik, fixing permissions or reflashing the ROM.
I guess the next step is to do a factory wipe, but I'm reluctant to do so because it's a real pain in the behind.
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I would gohead with the factory wipe. Do the job right the first time I say
Before going through all the trouble of a factory wipe, if you have not done this already:
Charge the phone until the native battery information screen says 100% and "Full" (or something other than"Charging"). In my case the native battery information screen and 3rd party battery stats app would react to the event of battery reaching 100% but, at that point although the battery screen said 100% it also said charging (as in attached pic). At this point the battery is not at maximum charge until battery screen says 100% and Full.
That it may be better for the battery not to reach maximum charge each time is another story.
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I've been having some strange battery issues.
TLDR: Phone battery drains and warms up when in use, but not when in sleep. Resetting batterystats doesn't fix it. Closing all processes doesn't fix it. It does it on a bunch of ROMs, which were always clean installed. The usual battery saving tricks do nothing.
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Basically, whenever I use my S3, I get a considerable amount of battery drain. I used to have fantastic battery life when I was running LiquidSmooth RC5, where I was capable of 4-6 hours of screen time in a day. Now I can only get 2 or less hours of screen time in a single charge. This seemed to start after flashing LiquidSmooth RC8, but I also have the same issue in LiquidSmooth RC9, LiquidSmooth 4.2 beta, Task & Ktoonsez 4.1, Task & Ktoonsez 4.2, Slimbean, and Cynagenmod 10/10.1. So I don't think it is my ROM.
Anyways, so the battery drain only seems to happen when the phone is in use. During that time, the bottom of the phone around where the CPU is located gets considerably warm after just a few minutes of use. Otherwise, when the phone is locked, it deepsleeps fine with no drain. It still does it even when I go through my entire process list (and cached process list) and stop everything, it doesn't help. I've tried the whole batterystats reset where I charged to 100, drained, then charged to 100. That didn't help. I do make sure to clean install my ROMS, including clearing user data, cache, dalvik cache, and formatting my /system. When I look at my battery usage, it usually seems to be Android System using my battery the most. It can also be Android OS, Google Services, and Media sometimes. I've tried a ton of fixes, nothing helps. And of course it still does it with WiFi, data, GPS and all that off.
Help would be appreciated
battery life is an issue with many different factors.. there can be a bad app, bad battery, bad rom, anything really. if your phone is having issues then maybe 4.2 isn't the best for your phone there are many different roms to choose from and many are very stable.
Running 4.2 isn't the issue, though. It does it on 4.1 ROMs too. I'm not even on a 4.2 ROM right now.
Sounds like a rogue app or widget draining it. Get better battery stats. Type it in xda search. That will tell you for sure what exactly is draining the battery. Good luck.
Maybe your battery is just shot and its time for a new one
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No, all these guys are wrong. Your phone is shot. I did everything you did. Better Battery Stats, calibrated battery, changed battery, changed SIM card, all radios shut off like data, GPS, Bluetooth, et cetera, no rogue apps, deep sleep according to BBS. You name it, I done it. And no one knows why our phones are doing this.
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Deggy said:
No, all these guys are wrong. Your phone is shot. I did everything you did. Better Battery Stats, calibrated battery, changed battery, changed SIM card, all radios shut off like data, GPS, Bluetooth, et cetera, no rogue apps, deep sleep according to BBS. You name it, I done it. And no one knows why our phones are doing this.
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Except two of my friends that have S3s have the same issue, as well as another friend with an S2. I don't think all of our phones are defective.