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[Q]0004 HW , which rom?

first time poster here , ive been reading alot of different info about rooting for the evo as i am new to all of this. I just got my evo this past dec and its not rooted(yet) ,i plan on puting on myn's warm rom but one FAQ/post that particularly bothers me is a quote from the following found at android central
Hardware Version 004:
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Just a tip for after this process is complete, if you have Hardware Version 004 you need to run a ROM built off of the latest Sprint kernel (as of now, I'm sure aosp builds like Cyanogen will update after the source is released) for the camera to work. These hardware versions have new camera hardware. The kernel that works is from the Sprint/HTC 3.7 software release.
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i plan on rooting via this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
so my question is which rom/roms are compatible?(noticed that myn's is based off of 3.30 so im not sure if i can even use that) or is this info out of date or am i missing some information? , i just want all of my evo's features working, suggestions on roms would be appreciated
my evo specs are
Hardware Version: 0004
stock htc kernal
3.70 OTA
HBoot: 2.10
using 64bit win 7 also.
thanks in advance =)

this info you have quoted is out of date. htc (happily) released the #15 kernel source, which is fully compatible accross the board. myn took a long vacation, so if i were you, i would either flash one of the nightly roms he is making (despite the name, not every night though. maybe 3 times a week at most. my phone is getting sore from lack of flashing) or just wait for the stable release.
btw, welcome to the forums, and hopefully to root. i know a few people that would be happy to help you if you are stuck or having problems rooting. i am one of them. my info is all in my sig. just contact me and i will be happy to help you. even if you want a hand-holding walkthrough (but you seem more independent than that. you read!!!)

thanks for the reply dk. what about the #17 kernel's source?, im leaning torwards flashing a more stable rom, any suggestions for a solid one?, and thanks if i run into any problems i will message you

Sidology said:
thanks for the reply dk. what about the #17 kernel's source?, im leaning torwards flashing a more stable rom, any suggestions for a solid one?, and thanks if i run into any problems i will message you
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The kernel source for 17 hasn't been released yet that I have heard. For a stable rom I would recommend Myn's TwoPointTwo. The public release of RLS 5 is out tomorrow which will have all of the updated stuff. I might be a little biased as I am a user of Myn's rom, but I could also recommend Fresh to you as well. It all really depends on what you want out of a rom. If you like Htc Sense, then stick to either one of those and I would say Myn's. If you don't like Sense, go with Cyanogen.

Sidology said:
first time poster here , ive been reading alot of different info about rooting for the evo as i am new to all of this. I just got my evo this past dec and its not rooted(yet) ,i plan on puting on myn's warm rom but one FAQ/post that particularly bothers me is a quote from the following found at android central
i plan on rooting via this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
so my question is which rom/roms are compatible?(noticed that myn's is based off of 3.30 so im not sure if i can even use that) or is this info out of date or am i missing some information? , i just want all of my evo's features working, suggestions on roms would be appreciated
my evo specs are
Hardware Version: 0004
stock htc kernal
3.70 OTA
HBoot: 2.10
using 64bit win 7 also.
thanks in advance =)
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If you're trying to flash an out of date rom, go get the #15 kernel from the dev section of this forum. Then all you need is to downgrade your PRI to 1.77 and you'll be able to flash any rom you want.
Enjoy!
I have hardware 0004.
Flash the rom first,
flash the #15 kernel (whichever one you want/like)
flash the PRI downgrade last (you can also find all PRI/radio/etc versions in the dev section)
nandroid first
wipe cache/dalvik between each flash.
Myn's rls5 (which will be released 1/7/11 for everyone), mikfroyo and the stock rom are all compatible with the hardware WITHOUT the PRI downgrade. The #15 kernel is recommended anyway, you might as well get it now.

what are the differences between #15 and #17?
leaning torwards myn's. not even rooted yet haha
i will see what happens in the next few days and report back(in the middle of moving), thanks for the info so far

I would also suggest virus roms. He makes amazing roms. As long as you have kernel 15, you should be able to flash any rom , I believe (anyone feel free to correct me). I dunno, I guess, I try to keep up with the new releases, I don't have hw 0004, but I know others who do who also run virus roms (I suppose it's just a matter of the kernel). Listen to others more than me
But welcome.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Hi there,
I have too a 004 Evo with the 2.10 hboot, and I rooted it with that method u posted and am currently running Myn's RLS4 with the latests radio, nv and wimax BUT with the pri at 1.77 and using netarchy's 4.2.3 kernel without any problems whatsoever, so from my pov you're good to go...
And fwiw, I am using latest RA's....

Just have one more question,do I need to flash updated radios our can I just leave them?
I'm not really sure what the benefits of updated ones are..I've read some scary stuff after people flashing radios, in combo at least

ok, first of all, kernel 15 is newer than 17 for some wird reaosn. 15 was just released on the 3.70 ota. sidology, the updated radios are just the newest released. all root methods besides unrevoked downgrade you waaaay back (to the first software release i think?) in order to exploit the phone. this is why you need to upgrade your radios back. myns 5 is out now, so you have no worries anymore. just root, and flash!
i may not be available to helping you root (i need to train some rats this week homework sucks) but i am free tomorrow and most weekends and will do all i can.

dkdude36 said:
ok, first of all, kernel 15 is newer than 17 for some wird reaosn. 15 was just released on the 3.70 ota. sidology, the updated radios are just the newest released. all root methods besides unrevoked downgrade you waaaay back (to the first software release i think?) in order to exploit the phone. this is why you need to upgrade your radios back. myns 5 is out now, so you have no worries anymore. just root, and flash!
i may not be available to helping you root (i need to train some rats this week homework sucks) but i am free tomorrow and most weekends and will do all i can.
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thanks for clearing that up =S, i thought 17 was newer lol. i havent rooted just yet, trying to gather info as i go , i still plan on using the 2.02/2.10 guide in my OP and just re flashing sprint lovers with the radio combo since im not sure if the one in the guide uses that one, then flash to myn's L5
just a side thought: i dont see many posts about people using unrevoked 3.3 much, if it doesnt downgrade radios shouldnt it be easier?
EDIT: just read that unrevoked is an easier method at bricking some peoples phones ,so nevermind lol
anyway thanks alot for the replys and info, its very much appreciated

unrevoked can sometimes brick people, or just corrupt your radio. if you dont mind wiping, then root manually. much safer, and you get to figure out how to actually so some stuff.

[Q] Several Questions about mods etc

I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]

As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers

glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32

First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
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@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
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glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...

@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?

Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...

glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...

Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .

tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)

glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.

just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .

BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.

I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
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Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...

All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day

[Q] about Radios and Stock Roms w/ root

Hello xda people!
I have some kinda noob questions about almost everything, please help me as I didnt really find something about it yet.
Q1: Radios
I have searched many internets but I didnt really find an explanation of the differences of the radio versions from Desire z. What are those?
I guess its all about energy efficiency and stability like higher version is better. Is that true?
Q2: Stock Roms w/ Root
Are any 1.72 stock Roms out there with root?
As I understood the ruus overwrite everything, would it work to just take the rom out of it and flash that without replacing recovery and boot. Then till what version does gfree work?
Im sorry but this whole Android and HTC thing is extremely confusing.
(Remind me if my post doesnt make sense, as I am now finally going to sleep after 3 days.)
peace

[Q] Newbie need Helping : upgrade rom for incredible 2

I am a new newbie in Android!! i hv just bought incredible 2, and unlocked it ( used code) to use GSM. Reading many thread in this forum and it made me confusing.
My incredible 2 got: Baseband : 20.23W.30.0803U_0.99.01.0225_2 and build number:1.34.605.4 CL341571.
. Which rom ( official or custom) i can upgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.3?? we using rom for US? how about the battery after upgrading? how to root it??
Thanks so much if u can advise me!!

first of all, this has nothing to do with development and is in the wrong forum.
looks like you managed to get a 2.2 froyo version. First thing I would do is use alpharevx to s-off your phone before letting it upgrade to 2.3 (if you let it OTA to 2.3 you'll lose the ability to root it)
after that, start reading up on the forums for roms... I would recommend RMK40's debloated gingerbread.

dnoyeb said:
first of all, this has nothing to do with development and is in the wrong forum.
looks like you managed to get a 2.2 froyo version. First thing I would do is use alpharevx to s-off your phone before letting it upgrade to 2.3 (if you let it OTA to 2.3 you'll lose the ability to root it)
after that, start reading up on the forums for roms... I would recommend RMK40's debloated gingerbread.
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Yeah what dnoyeb said.....this belongs in the General section. By the way here's the link to RMK's Debloated Gingersense ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411

sorry for posting wrong forum!!! thanks so much dnoyeb abd spizzo03

New (old) Evo, how to root?

I purchased a used Evo with 2.2 still on it. I've been reading and I've owned an Evo more than a year ago, but I'm not sure how to root. Should I update to Gb first and then root since we have root for that? I ask because I wanna ensure I have the latest radio and such. Plus all the guides for rooting 2.2 look old and outdated (defunct). Thanks

keep it
i have 2.2 rooted works fine.
why not just keep it?
haven't read any advantages to 2.3 , maybe i missed them.

trsix said:
i have 2.2 rooted works fine.
why not just keep it?
haven't read any advantages to 2.3 , maybe i missed them.
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Mainly was concerned with the phone and radio updates. And GB is that much better. I installed the full Sprint lovers which updated everything and now I'm testing roms.