What exactly does this measure and how can I make it better
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It's a performance test of your phone compared to other phones. The standard version is basic and if am not mistaken mainly focus on your gpu.
U can improve ur score a few different ways,ex flashing a different kernel rather than the standard HTC kernel. Most custom Rom already got their preferred custom kernel included. Another way is by overclocking ur CPU (set CPU ). If u are running a custom Rom then check your forum for tweaks and tips for improving your score.
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I'm using XDA app and been searching forums on what kernals do, I'm running cm7 latest nighty with tiamat latest version. Not sure what all the features are , I know it does overclocking and under and voltage adjustments, just wondering if it was worth going to tiamat from cm7 kernal and if it gives better performance and better battery? Thanks
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I'm using XDA app and been searching forums on what kernals do, I'm running cm7 latest nighty with tiamat latest version. Not sure what all the features are , I know it does overclocking and under and voltage adjustments, just wondering if it was worth going to tiamat from cm7 kernal and if it gives better performance and better battery? Thanks
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Different kernels work better for different phones... give them a try (give it a few days) and see which works best for you! Like you said, undervolting, under/overclock, BFS, HAVS, CFS, all features to increase battery life and/or performance!
Thanks for reply
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The kernel is the part of the operating system that is in direct control of the hardware, its the lowest level of the OS. It controls the frequency the CPU runs at, how much power to pull from the battery, how to schedule I/O, how many frames per second animations run at, and things of that nature.
In my opinion, rooting is almost useless without flashing a custom kernel. Thats really the only way to increase the performance of your phone.
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The kernel is the part of the operating system that is in direct control of the hardware, its the lowest level of the OS. It controls the frequency the CPU runs at, how much power to pull from the battery, how to schedule I/O, how many frames per second animations run at, and things of that nature.
In my opinion, rooting is almost useless without flashing a custom kernel. Thats really the only way to increase the performance of your phone.
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Thanks..
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I was wondering why after updating from and stock Telus ROM and darksides kernel from his kernel thread to the DDW ROM my processor has been slowed down to 1.35 GHz I saw in notes he does this for safety or something but my Telus G2X has a 1.5 GHz CPU stock am I better off running my stock ROM with just a kernel. Also my 4g icon has disappeared. I also ran some bench tests before and after with those previously mentioned ROM kernel combos and I went from 1.75 overclocked to 1.35 and it shows me being slower then a stock galaxy s2 X.
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Download a clock controller app from the market and set the clock to whatever you like, i use setcpu. Pretty straight forward.
The point of the underclock and undervoltage in Darksides ROM isn't to gain stability or because of a problem with stock speeds....it's only purpose is to give you better battery life.
Stability with custom ROMS is the problem you will run into when you test enough of them.
I think the most stable one I ran was Gingersnap.
Peace.
Is it safe to overclock to 1.85? Does it just suck life out of battery
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Is it safe to overclock to 1.85? Does it just suck life out of battery
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Darksides kernel oc's to 1.78 ghz but comes stock at 1.35
If you torque it up all the way, the phone will def perform better but the battery life will suffer.
I was using the bullet kernel on juggernaut and it is at 1.67 ghz... Battery life went down quickly if inwas using the phone a lot.
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Yeah I set it to cap at 1.52 I just hope these profiles work
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The point of the underclock and undervoltage in Darksides ROM isn't to gain stability or because of a problem with stock speeds....it's only purpose is to give you better battery life.
Stability with custom ROMS is the problem you will run into when you test enough of them.
I think the most stable one I ran was Gingersnap.
Peace.
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dude just stop with your anti custom ROM posts. There's a reason why a lot of people use custom roms, it's been completely stable for us.
you are a case of user error
I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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Well its really a matter of taste. Overclocking makes the phone a bit snapier and makes large games a bit quicker, but it also eats away at your battery faster. In my opinion overclocking is not worth it based on the small performance boost and larger battery drain. I actually under clock and undervolt to get max battery life with little or no hit to performance.
To over/under clock/volt you need to be rooted and install a kernel that supports the features and is compatible with your type of rom. From there you can use scripts or one of several apps on the market to change the values to your liking.
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I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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It makes your CPU run faster and things MAY be smoother for you. Is it worth it? Depends on how concerned for stability you are. Things could be more unstable for a possibly unnoticeable performance gain. This is coming from someone who enabled overclocking in his kernels.
If you think it's still worth it, you'd need to flash an appropriate custom kernel for the ROM you're using and install an app such as nofrills or incredicontrol or setcpu or system tuner (to name a few) to activate overclocking.
So the other day I installed an unofficial version of cm9 on my Evo. As many of you know, cm comes with options to over clock out of the box. Sadly, with the stock kernel you can only go so far. I found a new kernel online, and flashed it onto my phone, only to find out it ruined the rom, forcing me to reflash cm9. I was wondering if there are any kernels that I can install to overclock my phone further? Pics included
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So the other day I installed an unofficial version of cm9 on my Evo. As many of you know, cm comes with options to over clock out of the box. Sadly, with the stock kernel you can only go so far. I found a new kernel online, and flashed it onto my phone, only to find out it ruined the rom, forcing me to reflash cm9. I was wondering if there are any kernels that I can install to overclock my phone further? Pics included
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atyoung's Mason ICS kernel should work...
May I ask why you have the desire to.overclock so violently? Most the time, underclocking will even show no loss In performance and save battery. All times I have overclocked, I've never noticed a major difference.. it may be slight but not enough for me to care..
why is your min/max the same?
The rom I downloaded is a little laggy, just wishing to speed things up a bit.
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The rom I downloaded is a little laggy, just wishing to speed things up a bit.
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Ummm... You'll get terrible batt life with those settings... Min/max are the same
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One more thing.. pegging your CPU at max ghz will eventually destroy your device. The EVO is made with a single core 1 GHz snapdragon and so anything really over 1GHz will really put a strain on your processor. Best advice would be to either flash a new kernel, ROM, or find some tweaks to decrease lag. 1.2GHz isn't healthy for your phone...
Found this in another forum. Wanted to get exposure to the possibility.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30087853&postcount=2
From another poster: He references using "siyah" kernel in his S3, which appears to be an international version with the same processor as we have. He indicates the need for "stweaks". He talks about GPU "steppings" so I'm not sure if Andrielux has changed these in his kernel. I installed the app "stweaks" but it wouldn't load as it said "no kernel support".
Wow!!! What in the world. Is this for real? I wonder how stable it is. From 440 up to 800?! They are using some app called Stweaks (and the kernel of course) to do it. Love to see that on our Note 2.
And since it seems that the GPU wasn't changed much....from the Galaxy s2 series... "700 Mhz - 1100 mv" is only 75mv higher than the stock 440...and accoring to the forums stable. A 70% increase in speed and stable. This is a must have for any newer kernels.
His kernel does have it. Read the n7100 thread for directions
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His kernel does have it. Read the n7100 thread for directions
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"his kernel". Can you be more specific? Do you have a link to this kernel that we can use on the Sprint GSNII that supports GPU OC?
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"his kernel". Can you be more specific? Do you have a link to this kernel that we can use on the Sprint GSNII that supports GPU OC?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
It's about 1/3 the way down the OP with a beige arrow and a GPU frequency table. The few paragraphs below explain how to overclock the GPU via adb/terminal.
** Edit: AndreiLux just posted a new update which includes STweaks support.
Perseus kernel supports GPU overclocking now using STweaks. And it FLIES. Wow.
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Perseus kernel supports GPU overclocking now using STweaks. And it FLIES. Wow.
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Stweaks slow overclocking but if you OC it by 100mhz laugh amd giggles numbers. What kind of actual gpu performance are you getting. I see with.stock better real life performance.during.gaming versus his kernel. So if I were to oc just to match stock is pointless to me.
why overheat the gpu when I can get the same performance on stock kernel.
It has to be the way he has it coded. Till it matches stock and further progress dev for it ill step in. I do appreciate his work and time. But for me I need something better than stock. I got this phone for a reason haha.
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Stweaks slow overclocking but if you OC it by 100mhz laugh amd giggles numbers. What kind of actual gpu performance are you getting. I see with.stock better real life performance.during.gaming versus his kernel. So if I were to oc just to match stock is pointless to me.
why overheat the gpu when I can get the same performance on stock kernel.
It has to be the way he has it coded. Till it matches stock and further progress dev for it ill step in. I do appreciate his work and time. But for me I need something better than stock. I got this phone for a reason haha.
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What kind of performance? I beat the Nexus 4 as the highest rating 3D for a GPU in the market on Antutu. And it's noticeably different. Fun for extrme gaming I guess. But it affect the entire speed of the phone too.
Did you try it yet? The kernel is EXCELLENT. Going to donate from my next paycheck to dev. Thanks again.
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What kind of performance? I beat the Nexus 4 as the highest rating 3D for a GPU in the market on Antutu. And it's noticeably different. Fun for extrme gaming I guess. But it affect the entire speed of the phone too.
Did you try it yet? The kernel is EXCELLENT. Going to donate from my next paycheck to dev. Thanks again.
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NFSMW, GTA 3, Heavy Gaming. I noticed it was bleh on the kernel. And stock was virtually amazing no fps in fps either even during benchmark. On his kernel the 3d test for quadrant ghe fps dipped below than 58 which was consistent on stock
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NFSMW, GTA 3, Heavy Gaming. I noticed it was bleh on the kernel. And stock was virtually amazing no fps in fps either even during benchmark. On his kernel the 3d test for quadrant ghe fps dipped below than 58 which was consistent on stock
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Strange! I'm on Project ROM Ultra lite 1.2. Have you tried N.E.A.K? He said his kernel is set to 700mhz already (no need for STweaks). Can you test that one?
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Strange! I'm on Project ROM Ultra lite 1.2. Have you tried N.E.A.K? He said his kernel is set to 700mhz already (no need for STweaks). Can you test that one?
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Why would I need a kernel to overclock the gpu to match stock gpu clock from stock kernel to get same performance performance. Neak is on the s3 not Note 2 unless he or it in that Rom but still.
I want a custom kernel that can match the GPU performance on the stock kernel without the need of overclocking
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Why would I need a kernel to overclock the gpu to match stock gpu clock from stock kernel to get same performance performance. Neak is on the s3 not Note 2 unless he or it in that Rom but still.
I want a custom kernel that can match the GPU performance on the stock kernel without the need of overclocking
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Note 2 N.E.A.K.-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000328
Should we test it? I asked him if it will work on the Sprint version of the Note 2. I can't imagine why it would not.
FYI, STweaks is working for the Perseus kernel as of build 27. My GPU is currently at 733Mhz and I've undervolted all settings by 25 - no issues.
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FYI, STweaks is working for the Perseus kernel as of build 27. My GPU is currently at 733Mhz and I've undervolted all settings by 25 - no issues.
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Yep. Seems like a very stable kernel to me. But the guy above is saying that the kernel has low framerates compared to stock. I am hoping he will test the Neak kernel out.
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Yep. Seems like a very stable kernel to me. But the guy above is saying that the kernel has low framerates compared to stock. I am hoping he will test the Neak kernel out.
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Sorry but I will not ill be sticking to stock maybe in the future. That kernel seems weird not sure which to choose. And like I said, I don't see the point of downloading a kernel know that will I will basically need to overclock the gpu just to get the same performance as I would on the stock kernel.
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