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HTC desire ???

Hi I am currently on the hero and I wanted to know if the desire is worth or if you advise me to wait

Yes, it is worth to buy compare htc hero ... unless you want something else
Read the HTC Desire spec:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/overview.html
And then compare it with your phone.

Well of course it is worth getting depending on the following factors.
1. You like the sense UI on your hero.
2. You are out of contract or due an upgrade or have the money to buy the phone sim free.
3. You are aware that there will probably be something better along in 6 months or so and would rather jump now then wait.

Keep waiting Every 6 months there will be new announcement, better hardware, better features, etc.
Then you will never buy a thing.
I could wait an Android phone with one of this:
- 4+ inch screen
- Snapdragon 1.3GHz or 1.5GHz
- Touch screen using ClearPad 3000
So, I think, HTC Desire is good enough, more than good in terms of OS and hardware.
Btw, if you curious about "ClearPad" Touch screen. It is the screen hardware that is used by all (CURRENT) HTC capacitive screen. It is not perfect, which you can probably heard issue with the Nexus One.
Explained here in much more detail:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/a-closer-look-at-htcs-touch-sensors/
Baldyman1966 said:
3. You are aware that there will probably be something better along in 6 months or so and would rather jump now then wait.
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I have to buy a mobile for next month absolutely
and I buy it without subscription I pay the price naked

gogol said:
Keep waiting Every 6 months there will be new announcement, better hardware, better features, etc.
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Exactly what I say.. Problem is.. I keep buying each of these new phones every 4-6months.. Normally sell them on again for not much less than I originally paid for it.. But going to keep my HD2 this time.. Just so I can play around with some of the cool things that the xda guys make for win mob..

Which to choose? :S

I have been with my precious HTC Desire for 6 months now & i love it!
i can't imagine something else..but tomorrow i'll have to chance to upgrade to another phone..i have been leaning towards the desire hd..but it'll be available till this friday which is soon..or should i just go get the Galaxy s tomorrow?
I know people may have asked this before but i just can't seem to choose

The Galaxy S is barely an update over the Desire if it even is one.

Take the Desire HD... they go for much more than a Galaxy S on eBay!!

Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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1) Samsung phones always shine on specifications, and disappoint on the software side.
2) Amoled on my Desire doesn't make me drool over ANY other display, including the Retina and SAMOLED. It's more than good...
3) I would also NOT call a switch to Galaxy S an upgrade, sorry Reefermattness...
My opinion: if you like your Desire, stick to it. Get a newer/better phone once you are dissatisfied with yours...

I'd also go for the Desire Hd, the Sammy has great specs but it doen't seem it's quite delivering the experience. The Desire HD seems to be working great and the new Sense is awsome (i think Sammy's UI is really ugly!!!).
Plus, when gingerberad comes around you'll have alot more chances to get it on the Desire HD (though maybe neither will get it!!)
If you like your Desire, there's no question!

Uhm, why doesn't anyone that compares Desire vs Galaxy S take into account the design and build quality of both? HTC is light years ahead, it's more compact and solid, Samsungs are always plasticy and bulky. A *HUGE* disadvantage is also the lack of optical pad on the Galaxy. Come on, why do all newer phones ditch the dpad?? It's super useful, especially when writing text and jumping across links on a web page.

Reefermattness said:
Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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And whats your point?
Desire has better ram, build materials, developer support, and Sense is actually useful. Samsung imo has only the benefit of using the screen in the sun & thats it.
Any way OP, go for the HD or Z, they are both great but slightly different than our beloved Desire.

Easy.
You Choose.
Try and get your hands on both for a few minutes. Honestly, there is no better decision then your own. Everybody has their own opinion, but only you can choose what is right for you.
Makes the whole Debate worthless IMHO
KYI

I currently have both the Desire (newly repaired) and a Samsung Galaxy S; in fact they are just sitting on the desk over there <------- see?
I have to say that it really is six and two threes, I really can't spilt them, which is something I need to do as one needs to head off on Ebay. Anyway I would say that if you are happy with the Desire then keep it and go for something completely different. Maybe even wait to see what happens with the new Nexus.
The Galaxy definitely is not enough of an upgrade over the Desire to satisfy you for a good few months. In fact I would say that my Desire is a fraction quicker on a daily basis, such as loading apps and menu transitions, even with the Galaxy lag fixed and running FroYo. We are talking fractions of a second but it is noticeable.
The screen size, colour resolution and battery is better on the SGS but the Desire is a fraction quicker and the UI is more polished. I can't say that I have come across a benefit of the multi touch and GPU over the Desire yet, but I'm in the lucky position of not needing to keep a phone long enough to worry about it.
I now just need to decide which one fits me best.

If I was you, I would wait to see what the Samsung Nexus S has to offer (when officially announced).
You never know, it might be great?
Stu

Ok thankyou guys!
I will have a good think about & see which one i'll get!
If not i'll be more then happy with my current desire!

just wait. do not get the dhd yet. wait for an announcement of the nexus s,
with google opting for samsung this year for the nexus, i expect the trend to shift too. i mean, u would definetely see REAL development in the galaxy section once the device comes out.

The only things im gona dat is the screen of the htc désiré gd is ugly the dozen is great but if your used amoled then you will beshocked at the hd atleast i was
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Those are the responses I would expect from xda, which is obviously a HTC fan based web page. I have not seen my friends desire z do anything better than the galaxy s so far. Even he wishes he got a galaxy s after side by side comparison. Sense ui does nothing but slow phones down and looks flashy. Most real developers don't even mess with sense ui, and leave it out of their roms for just that reason. Besides... you complain about Samsung software, I would assume since you guys have been at xda for a while you know its possible to CHANGE THE SOFTWARE! To each their own but I've done the side by side tests live and the desire line performs half as well as the galaxy s.
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Where as we know that Samsung are spot on with their software and support?? Not.
We could talk about the support for their previous top of the range effort the i8910 or more the lack of, the broken pre-release promises and the huge let down the owners felt (I was one of those). We could also mention the lag on the SGS due to the proprietary RFS file system.
Am I a fan of HTC? Well lets put it this way, I have owned 3 recent Samsungs and one HTC, the Desire. I also own the SGS alongside the Desire and as I said, I would find it difficult to choose between the two. Is the SGS a huge step up? No, but I would say the same to someone claiming the same about the Desire.
They are both nice handsets and do what they do well but there is no real clear winner. Good for you that you like your Galaxy but it in reality, in the real world of usage over statistics, it does not trounce the Desire and that's the truth.

[Q] Desire HD or Nexus S

Hi all, first time posting but been a long time occasional lurker since my HTC Hero, though I am currently using an iPhone 4.
I've been having the temptations to change phone recently, and I've always liked the look of the Nexus S and the DHD.
I know newer models have been announced at WMC however they still seem like the nicest Android handsets available at the moment, for the price. I've seen brand new DHD on eBay go for less than £300 which seems crazy! If I got the DHD I would root it and put either Revolution or LeeDroid on it....
So I ask, if you were in the position to buy a new phone tomorrow, would it be the DHD or the Nexus S?
Thanks for any input

Definately the desire hd, it is a really cool phone, would really like to get one myself. Had it for a few days recently but had to give it back, it really is a great phone
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It really depend on what you are looking for.
In my case, I wanted a phone with a 4.3 inch screen and a good 8 MP camera. The desire hd seem to be the best choice for me, since it's been released recently in Quebec,Canada.
While the Nexus S isn't available here in Canada, it is a tempting device. The hardware is similar to the Samsung Galaxy S series, it has new feature like NFC and it's a Google product. So you'll be sure to always have the newest updates.
Either way, I think you'll have a good time.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

In terms of specs/performance/looks/awesomeness the Desire HD kicks ass!!

Wrong place to ask, as Desire HD owners - we're gonna be biased. So naturally; get the Desire HD !
Really great phone, perfect battery life (don't listen to people who say it's crap). The premium feel of the phone really does show!

I just sold my galaxy s phone about a week ago and purchased the desire hd. I know the galaxy s(vibrant) its not exactly the same as nexus s, its like 90% the same, other than front cam, flash, nfc, and 2.3, its the same phone. I also played with the nexus s so I have a pretty good idea on these phones.
Id say if you are a power user or a media hungry guy, get the desire hd. Its very good device. For me it beats nexus s, in every possible way other than better screen, which for me the 4.3" screen size more than makes up for that. Also nexus s is stuck with 16gb non upgradable memory and has 512mb ram vs 768 in desire hd. My only concern with the desire hd was the battery but with some of the roms i tried, im getting wayyyyy better better. Also if you use setcpu and tweak a bit, you will forget about the battery problem. BTW there already 2.3 roms(cynogenmod) out and im sure it will be a little delay on the updates but not that big of a deal since you get them fairly quick thanks to these wonderful devs

HTC Desire - what's next?

The HTC Desire has been a pretty great phone for me, love the physical buttons, and the rooting scene is very very much alive.
Just wondering, will there be a phone that have the same size as the desire, but with updated internals like a dual core processor and more ram? Seems to be trend for bigger screens and any dual core phone is usually 4" and up.
What do you think?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The new samsung is so light you don't even notice the screen size difference in your pocket. Personally I would like to stick with HTC but if you were looking to buy a new phone right now nothing comes close to the samsung in terms of sexiness/thinness and lightness!
EDIT: and of course speed

I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
chrrh...

chrrh said:
I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
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Except massively locked bootloader, radio and kernel.
Swyped...

HTC have really let me down with their new locked down
Mentality. I also wanted a reasonable size dual core phone
But had to come to the realization that its never gonna happen
(someone prove me wrong and I'll eat my words) so I went for
The galaxy s2. It craps on the sensation. The free ram on that thing
Is appalling and its still choppy in the browser with a dual core.
Come on htc! What have you been doing? Not catching up thats for sure.
I would love sense 3.0 on hardware like the galaxy S2 but we can't have
Everything.

chrrh said:
I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
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Meaple said:
Except massively locked bootloader, radio and kernel.
Swyped...
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Doesn’t the Sensation have a 4.3” screen compared with the Desire’s 3.7”? I mean I’ve tried to use phones with screens 4” and bigger but it just doesn’t fit right for me....
hairykewell said:
The new samsung is so light you don't even notice the screen size difference in your pocket. Personally I would like to stick with HTC but if you were looking to buy a new phone right now nothing comes close to the samsung in terms of sexiness/thinness and lightness!
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Thats the thing really, I’m not looking for a phone right now, I can wait for another year or so. But I have always had my eye out for new phones. My 1st smartphone was the 1st gen metal iPhone, I used that since 2007 till my job required me to have a phone without a camera. I got the Desire mainly because I wanted an iPhone-like OS and that I could easily remove the camera module without damaging the rest of the phone. But I’ve fallen in love with the android OS and the amazing variety of phones there are in the market.
HTC as a company is great. I think they’re moving in the right direction. Just that their new phones have locked bootloaders and well, the rooting community is what I really love about the android platform.

esk02k said:
HTC have really let me down with their new locked down
Mentality. I also wanted a reasonable size dual core phone
But had to come to the realization that its never gonna happen
(someone prove me wrong and I'll eat my words) so I went for
The galaxy s2. It craps on the sensation. The free ram on that thing
Is appalling and its still choppy in the browser with a dual core.
Come on htc! What have you been doing? Not catching up thats for sure.
I would love sense 3.0 on hardware like the galaxy S2 but we can't have
Everything.
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You’ve used the Sensation? Is sense still kinda ram hungry?

leader288 said:
Doesn’t the Sensation have a 4.3” screen compared with the Desire’s 3.7”? I mean I’ve tried to use phones with screens 4” and bigger but it just doesn’t fit right for me....
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Yes, and I agree - I want one with the same physical size as the desire personally...

I want a phone that's quad core, 32GB internal mem, 1GB RAM...
BUT
I want it smaller and thinner than the Desire, and have a battery that lasts a week with heavy use
Seriously, guys - it's not gonna happen. You want more features, the phone will get bigger and have crap battery life. Just enjoy what we have as this is a golden age for mobile phones

Sensation will be my next step.
The unibody is awesome and the specs are too.
I stick to HTC cause I just love their hardware and quality.
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I think it's worth waiting till Q4 to change for me, love my Desire and am very keen to have physical buttons(not keyboard) on my next handset but unfortunately it looks like the top handsets will no longer have them.

I'm with the OP on this one. I love my desire, still do, but am keeping my eye out for the next desire-like phone. I suppose the htc desire s is the next logical step, but from what I've been reading, it's not that drastic of a jump and therefore not worth the upgrade. I would have to say htc dropped the ball on this one. The desire s will not reach the same popularity s it's predecessor simply because it doesn't bring enough improvements to the table. While the sensation seems to be the next flagship, the large size, insufficient ram and internal storage are deal breakers for me.
Swyped from my iPhone killer/HTC Desire

Just read about the google nexus 4g. My interest is piqued, although the "monster" screen size has me worried.
Swyped from my iPhone killer/HTC Desire

I was going to get nexus s but no led notiffication, no hd recording, less ram than desire and 4 " screen put me off , well not so much the screen but rest of features
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Check out nexus 4g, google's third phone. Hopefully they remedy all the issues that were present in the nexus s
08r3308 said:
I was going to get nexus s but no led notiffication, no hd recording, less ram than desire and 4 " screen put me off , well not so much the screen but rest of features
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Swyped from my iPhone killer/HTC Desire

Sensation seems to be the logical next step, though gaining root access and S-OFF is a bit of a problem at the moment. Last summer when I bought my Desire, I knew I would not have to change my phone until dual cores kicked in. Well, they came a bit early I'll probably keep my Desire for a year or two more before I move on to dual cores.
I do keep hearing that dual-core processors and Sense 3.0 are not optimized, but that won't be much of a problem once the device is fully rooted and ROMs start cooking. Think of how innocent the stock Desire feels, if you ever for some reason turn back to it. We have a monster now. So, it's all up to devs to figure out a way to root Sensation. After, it's golden.

rant... Disregard...

I was thinking on buying the HTC Sensation but its too big for me...
HTC Desire S didnt evolve much... and I love HTC Desire buttons...
Ill be waiting till IceCream Sandwich!

I know its v picky, but why has HTC switched to shiny buttons for power and volume? They look so tacky. One thing I love about the Desire - it looks muted/classy, not shiny shiny.
On the S Nexus S, I was surprised how little I noticed the increased screen size, v different to the Desire HD which feels massive (there's only a .3 difference, isn't there?)
Sent via phone - nuff said

I hate those physical buttons. They were OK when I bought the phone a year ago. Now I have to press twice or press them really hard to make them work... But I don't like the touch buttons on my gf's Wildfire S as well so I'm kinda stuck...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Upgrade time. Keeping your desire or moving on?

Hey guys and gals.
My contracts up next month (finally) and I'm torn between a shiny new phone or a dirt cheap contract, what are you planning to do?
My thoughts are swinging towards cheap contract as I'm always near wifi most of the day, mainly use my phone for offline video and music and I barely call anyone and use Facebook messenger instead.
sent from my desire running seb's aio rom

definitely cheap contract! have yet to find a phone as good as a customised desire...

I'm going to negotiate a deal for a cheap contact and buy out right one of either the Samsung galaxy S3, HTC one X or iPhone 5

I'm moving on. I'll probably HTC One X/S or maybe Xperia. I'm pretty much undecided right now about what to get but I'll get something very soon.

I really don't know. The hardware of the desire is pretty good, but it depends on if they can make ICS running well on the desire. I've used the beta ICS rom for 3 days and it was really fast, but full of bugs. If they could fix these I will continue my desire for a longer time otherwise I'll get another phone. (First world problem... argh )

My contract is up this month so I'll see what I'm offered. But with the HTC one and S3 out shortly I might hang on see what deals come up.
Maybe the s2 will drop in price.
The desire is still a decent phone
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

There are a few things I do not like about my desire :
The screen , a bit small now ( I have a 10" tablet .. ) but the phone does fit in my pockets.
The lack of RAM .. this is a BIGGY !!...
My back button has peeled off...
All this is annoying , but I need a new phone .. may get one in june... ( go sim only for a while ) one X or Xperia S.. ( so far XS is winning )
I'd like the ION as I have a 32 GB card!!!!!

keeping desire for now.
one x and one s are disappointing for me at the moment - sad there's no removable battery or microSD.
i also have a nice 32gb microsd to use in a phone and 32GB -> 26GB usable is a tad annoying when you have a microSD free
will maybe see how the next Samsung range looks like - besides I have no contract (or a cheap no-phone contract actually) so I have to buy my phone outright - so I've been pondering on getting a cheap sensation or evo3d recently...

a shiny new phone for sure
I'm getting either
HTC ONE X "Your quad-core-powered entertainer"
OR just settle for
HTC Velocity 4G (price will go down as soon as the ONE is released)

Contract wise, depends if you can afford to buy new model outright or not, simple. f you don't have 4-500 lying around then you have no choice because as for the hardware...Definite upgrade the Desire, although a monster in terms of the customisation it has had and still has, it'ss still no match for today's h/w and there's no doubt these new devices will be customised to the hilt too...all about the HTC One X (although yes, no microsd is big bug bear but at least it's 32GB) and the SGS3. Although if you can't wait for either of them there's no reason to leave out the SGS2 (buy it outright then sell later on). The Desire will never perform as good as the above no matter what hacks you do and the fact you have to hack to get to the same base level as the above should give you the answer in itself.

I am considering HTC one s or x. In that order.. but, I have no real need to upgrade. ;-)

I'm going to stick with the desire,,I'm running mild wild cm which I'd really nice and going to go with a Sim card only deal
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

My contract (2 years with Orange, £17 p/m, free phone) is also coming to an end in a couple of months, so the issue of 'what next?' is quite important right now for me.
As much as I love the freshness of Sandvold's ICS rom, it does make clear the hardware limitations of my Desire, particularly the small RAM and constant annoyance regarding the tiny internal memory, so I reckon I'll probably move on to a shiny new phone. Hopefully, the Galaxy Nexus if I can find it cheap enough (cheapest I've seen it is £330 out of contract, sim free).

another 10 months to go on contract for me.
I have loved the desire but i am sorely tempted to get the new One X sim free when it hits the uk next month.

I just moved on to the Incredible S pretty decent phone and yes HTC are working on ics on the Incredible S they say it should be released in April or may
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I don't think I'll get another HTC, the lack of being able to see the screen in direct sunlight is a deal breaker, especailly next to my bros galaxy s. With regards to hardware limitations, is the ram really that bad? My desire plays video and music and can access t'interweb. The only thing that grinds my gears is the camera is rubbish since going to custom Roms. I've found a contract that works out to £2 a month after cash back with enough data and minutes to still enjoy the pleasures of a contract, plus sky sports mobile which I will eventually find a hack to get working on my TV.
I worked out I'll save about £600 over 2 years, then double once the wife has paid off her hardware aswell. Works out pretty damn good.
sent from my desire running seb's aio rom

If you don't use many minutes and usually near WiFi, you can go the pay as you go route. $10 for 2500 msgs, $0.25/minute for calling and pay for data if you get stuck in the woods. (all these numbers vary from carrier to carrier) This plan with an outright desire has been pretty good
Thinking of getting one s or one x when they come out. They said that they'd be focusing on phone quality rather quantity, and I personally love sense.

That's another thing, I just love sense, I've tried loads of custom Roms and launchers and i always come back to the latest sense because it works and its very easy on the eyes and has everything I want.
sent from my desire running seb's aio rom

Evo 3D dropped to £207 here last night. Tempted still to consider that for a couple if years...
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Just ordered myself the HTC Evo 3D...