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Oke, quick question guys.
I have an unbranded HTC Desire UNROOTED, haven't rooted it yet...
It came with 2.2 and fully working etc..
My following question, is it worth it to root my phone and get a ROM?
What are the benefits of using a ROM on HTC Desire...
Because I've been reading comments on different ROMs for ages now and I just can't figure out which is best and has everything working.
I want a clean ROM which I then can flash a theme on, so it probably should not be odexed. Sorry for so many questions I just want to be sure.
So basically my question is root or not root, and if root, which ROM.
Share your experiences please, thanks !
Same here, what are the disadvantages to ROMs and rooting over a stock ROM??? Just problems with changing SD cards? Stability? Bugs??
a2sd+ and ****load of space for apps is no. 1 for me.
Every rom is stable enough for heavy everyday usage, unless they are marked as experimental, beta or something along those lines.
Youll be able to install as many apps you want with a2sd+ which is better than stock FroYo a2sd as all of the apps actually go onto the sd card.
Speed is massively improved on vanilla and sense roms, which is always lovely.
Endless mods too. Youll be able to pick themes for your roms, and even make your own if youre up to it.
Hopefully that will convert you
Sent from my HTC Desire
GANJDROID said:
Every rom is stable enough for heavy everyday usage, unless they are marked as experimental, beta or something along those lines.
Youll be able to install as many apps you want with a2sd+ which is better than stock FroYo a2sd as all of the apps actually go onto the sd card.
Speed is massively improved on vanilla and sense roms, which is always lovely.
Endless mods too. Youll be able to pick themes for your roms, and even make your own if youre up to it.
Hopefully that will convert you
Sent from my HTC Desire
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...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
I have hboot version greater than 0.75 (0.93 I think) and stock UK 2.2 ROM with latest update, can I still root and flash?
i also want to root, but im waiting for unrevoked v3.2.1, however im not sure if it works with hboot 0.93 (which im also on) can someone clarify that it works or doesn't??
Thanks
cr1960 said:
...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
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Thats very true, but rooting basically unlocks everything, except system access, but thats nearly done
Haha, yeah, they do get quite peeved when you pay more attention on your phone than them
As for the hboot people, I think all hboots have been rooted, you just need to search the development forum.
Sent from my HTC Desire
I have rooted my phone and I'm happy I did it.
Just like the feeling of it that it can do more now and not be limited.
the new unrEVOked can root HBOOT 0.93 as I did it before going back to stock
I downgraded first, shouldn't make a different on how the ROM runs.
So downgrade hboot and then root and flash.
Right, but rooting messes up the OTA updates...
Rooting only affects otas if your not on an official rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
cr1960 said:
...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
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So true.. thats why I havent rooted.... yet...
chichoko said:
So true.. thats why I havent rooted.... yet...
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LOLOL...
That´s so true, my girlfriend hates my phone...
Had it rooted for a few weeks installed 2 or 3 rom´s, a few theme mod´s....
get it back to unroot status, why?
first of all the new radio gives u less battery drains, u still have froyo with stock rom, fast and stable and most important issue of all, WARRANTY...
i already bricked on Magic 32A
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Right, but rooting messes up the OTA updates...
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U can use OTA updates with root, but you need to use fake flash to enter custom recovery, if u flash the custom recovery, removing the original one, u get an error when trying to update via OTA
And why finally decided to root my phone?
1. Because I love modifying gadgets.
2. More options, more space by extension.
3. You can always go back to unroot.
4. Theme Sense or Non-Sense.
5. Backup whole ROM.
Etc..
Those are the advantages I was looking for.
And I'm happy with it and had no trouble!
The updates will be on a ROM too anyways.
Don't ROOT
If i knew it was so hard to UNROOT i wouldn't have ROOTED in the first place...!
Why do you need to unroot so badly and what is preventing you?
So any other advantages of rooting apart from increasing internal memory? For stability and productivity, what ROMs are recommend? Is class two Sandisk ok for app2sd+? Can the ext3 partition be backed up or copied to another card?
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Hey guys,
Im really really new to this and i wanted to ask which is a good rom to start with. The lee-droid, cyanogen or one of neophytes?
There is no good rom to start. It all depends on what you want. If you make an ext partition on your sd card you can flash any rom that you want. And if you don't like it change to an other.
Teppic47's stock rooted ROM, same as stock but you can add features if you want them. Good start to rooted life
Yea i tried to make a sdcard-ext but it didnt work how i wanted it...gotta try again when iam at home.
Could u give me a link to his roms eddy?
Use search next time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
Okey I've a few very very simply questions, before flashing my phone ^^ I'm quite newb at this, so any help is appreciated
Questions \/
Will I be able to change a custom (modded) rom, to any language (in my case Danish)?
Do I need a "Goldcard" to flash my phone?
Do I need to format my SD card before flashing?
Will I be able to download free games from market, with a custom rom? (Of course none of you support free downloads from market. And of course this will probaly need a mod if possible)
Will my phone be any faster with a modded/custom rom? (And if it'll then what is the due, ram, cpu, etc?)
Thanks to any people, who at least answer just one question. and I'm sorry for the inconvience, and even more sorry for bad spelling and grammar ^^
Will I be able to change a custom (modded) rom, to any language (in my case Danish)?
The ROM you're flashing needs to support it.
Do I need a "Goldcard" to flash my phone?
You don't need a Goldcard to flash a ROM, you only need it to flash an RUU if your phone is branded. The RUU is what you flash to return back to complete stock.
Do I need to format my SD card before flashing?
Again, this depends on the ROM. Roms that use A2SD or D2EXT or any of those will tell you how you need to have your SD Card formatted. This will be listed on the first page on the ROM. ALWAYS read the first page of the ROM you want to flash. Will tell you all you need to know about it.
Will I be able to download free games from market, with a custom rom? (Of course none of you support free downloads from market. And of course this will probaly need a mod if possible)
Don't bother looking for an answer for this here. The normal market will be fully functional.
Will my phone be any faster with a modded/custom rom? (And if it'll then what is the due, ram, cpu, etc?)
This again depends on the ROM. I'm running Oxygen and it's almost pure AOSP and it runs MUCH faster than any Sense based ROM that I've tried. Sense ROM's will run a little slower because they require more power to run the UI.
Thank you
Thank you for the help
First off, yep, I used the search but nothing did quite match the question I have...
Now, one of the main reasons I want to root my phone for, is, that I don't have (even nearly) enough space for the apps I want to use.
1. I saw a ROM floating around here which is enabling the complete installation of applications to the sd card, is this possible with every ROM or just with this specific one?
And:
2 .On the current stock ROM there already is an App2SD function, but I haven't got enough space anyway, does this improve with root access?
The second reason I want to root my Desire is, that I'd like to have 2.3 instead of 2.2, because of some features that were added.
One, actually minor but anyway, more reason for rooting for me is, that I can have a different theme (I'm getting bored of the stock one...)
3. Are this and the first one enough reasons to root your phone? Is it worth it?
Then, some more general questions about rooting:
4. I saw a few tutorials out there, which are "noob proved", is it really that simple? (I'm not complete idiot in terms of technical things, but I haven't got much expirience with android...)
5. I also saw that it is possible to "brick" your device, does this just happen when you do something completly wrong, or is it just random? How "high" is the chance of bricking your device?
6. After you rooted your device, can you "switch" ROMs quite easily or is it a kind of harder process each time?
7. Im not soo familiar with android, as I mentioned before, so, does android write the SMS and so on to the SIM card or are they saved internal? Are they getting lost while rooting?
And now over to some more personal questions:
8. What application or advantage did you root your phone for?
9. Which root apps are really making it worth rooting?
I'd be really thankfull if you could help me with this, and I appreciate each answer!
Best regards
P.S.: Sorry for my kinda bad english, but I'm not quite often using it....
1. You are talking about a feature named a2sd. If a rom supports it, it will be listed in its feature list. To use it, you have to follow the given instructions for partitioning sd card for a2sd in the roms corresponding thread.
2. That's not a2sd, it's the "froyo-style app2sd". The difference is, with the froyo one you can only move the application to sd card if the developer programmed the app for it. With a2sd, all apps you install will be automatically moved to a special partition on your sd card, namely sd-ext. You don't have and must not do anything.
You can already download gingerbread from htcdev.com:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
3. Rooting gives you many advantages. Most important things are you can backup your apps/settings and your rom, and you can flash custom roms.
4. Of course they are. That's why they named like this.
5. If you follow all guides carefully and don't do something silly, imho the chance the phone bricks is not higher than an untouched stops working.
6. It's very easy. You do it from recovery, where you can backup your previous rom.
7. Yep, but you have to it with an extra program like sms backup & restore:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&feature=search_result
8. Flash custom roms, backup and restore apps/rom -> better and so awesome desire experience.
9. Most important one is imho titanium backup:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
i recently rooted and then unrooted and then rooted and s-off my desire trust me reading the instructions makes its sound more difficult than it is. just read carefully dont take shortcuts and ull be ok.
i rooted as i ran low on space also i like the fact i can delete system apps as i dnt use them.
you can use themes.
there are roms with data2sd or data2whatever, better than app2sd.
just read thru ask some questions of people.they will help u out. boobkmark the pages u want to use i always forget and then can never find the advice again!!!
once ur rooted used unrevoked for that. you can swap roms like there ur socks!! i and many others on here im sure swapped roms hourly let alone daily , u need to see which one fits u the best.
this is just what i no from my very limited experience others on here are much more in the know!
good luck
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you follow it exactly you should not brick your phone
Switching roms is easy as long as you read the requirements for each rom, which are usually found within the first two posts on the rom thread
If you use cyanogenmod rom you can use the s2e app from market to move apps to your sd card, imho this is a very easy way to implement app2sd, I'm using this, I have heaps of apps installed and still have plenty of space left
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Read some noob guides you need more knowledge
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
Nascor said:
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
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You are right. But if I were you, I would made one even so, just in case.
hey guys
I've been looking for an answer for this question for 5 hours but wasn't able to understand what the next step should be.
My Story (not necessary)
I've successfully rooted my HTC Desire (which was a pain because I had to downgrade my phone first and root it with unrevoked on Ubuntu 10.04). I thought the latest version would be supported, actually it didn't change anything! (well it's rooted now after all...)
I was looking for the best method to update the Desire without loosing root. After hours spent on google looking for an answer
I wanted to know:
The best method to update an HTC Desire without loosing root. As far as I understand gingerbread was the 2.3 release and Froyo all the earlier releases.
Where do I get it?
How do I install it?
thanks in advance!!
ps: All methods from 2009 and 2010 wouldn't work for me.
my specs:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: 32.41.00.32U_4.08.00.09
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-0cfb9f166
[email protected] #1
Build number: 1.21.405.2 CL174215 release-keys
Software number: 1.21.405.2
Update using a custom ROM (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628 for all the threads containing these ROMs, and a how to). I use sebastiaan15's Runnymede AIO which is a Gingerbread with HTC Sense 3.5 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961) but there are plenty of others on there, depending on what you want. You will keep root, as the Custom ROM will be rooted.
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
thethodi said:
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
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Yes, they are rooted.
thethodi said:
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
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I suppose technically it would be possible for a Custom ROM to not be rooted, but there aren't any that I am aware of, or have ever installed, and I can't see why a dev would produce a non-rooted ROM.
I'd recommend 4ext recovery (install it via the market), so you can take a full ROM backup. That way if you don't like a Custom ROM that you flash, you can just revert back to exactly where you were beforehand. Even if the new ROM won't boot, you can just boot into recovery and restore.
Also, a good idea to use Titanium to do a backup, so that you can then restore your user apps when you're on your new ROM. DON'T restore system when swapping from one ROM to another, or it may very well mess up your new ROM.
Hope that helps. I went through all this, and had all these sorts of questions a couple of months ago, so happy to help you work through it.
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I suppose technically it would be possible for a Custom ROM to not be rooted, but there aren't any that I am aware of, or have ever installed, and I can't see why a dev would produce a non-rooted ROM.
I'd recommend 4ext recovery (install it via the market), so you can take a full ROM backup. That way if you don't like a Custom ROM that you flash, you can just revert back to exactly where you were beforehand. Even if the new ROM won't boot, you can just boot into recovery and restore.
Also, a good idea to use Titanium to do a backup, so that you can then restore your user apps when you're on your new ROM. DON'T restore system when swapping from one ROM to another, or it may very well mess up your new ROM.
Hope that helps. I went through all this, and had all these sorts of questions a couple of months ago, so happy to help you work through it.
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wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
thethodi said:
wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
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You need to have a swap partition with some ROMs (swap partition is not the same as ext partition!). Select ROMs you like the most and read the first posts really carefully. All usefull info are there! Once you have selected the ROM you want to install, prepare your card accordingly, flash the ROM and ENJOY!
thethodi said:
wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
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Hi, I've not found I'd ever need any extra RAM, so I've never bothered with a ROM that needs it. In my humble and limited experience I've not seen any that need a swap partition. An ext partition on the other hand is very useful, as you can install more apps. My sdcard for all 4 ROMs that I often use (Seb15's Runnymede, CM7, Stock Froyo and ICS Beta) just has a 1Gb ext4 partition (for apps2sd) and the rest fat32.