My question is if I flash a rom and say it has superuser or rom manager. Will that app update like regulare apps I download from the market or is that something I would have to manually update because the market doesnt realy know its there?
I know if I download an app when an update comes out it promps me to update and so forth but when the app is already on the phone from the start what about then?
I am looking for legit answers here no speculations. I have already been speculating since I started flashing roms. The answers seems to be no, especialy since the new gmail app is out and I havnt been prompted to update.
Thanks, Thomas
A lot of the time you can just download them from the market and it will be linked from then on. Sometimes it won't install cuz the app is recognized as a system app. In that case you have a couple options I know of. If you have Titanium, you can either use Market Doctor to re-link the app to the market or if that doesn't work you can remove it with Titanium and just reinstall through the market. Root explorer or ADB are other options for removing system apps. Check in Settings/Applications to see if it will let you uninstall the app. If not, its a system app. Kind of all depends on how the dev put the rom together. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info
Now, if an app is already installed with the rom will it update from the market or do we have to manually update it?
Hey all,
I noticed that when I flash a new CyanogenMod ROM on my phone that all my apps I had before I flashed will be re-downloaded. However, using the Gingerbread OMGB ROMs this is not the case for me. No apps are automatically downloaded after I enter my email account info in at the beginning. Does anybody know if this is a Cyanogen thing or does Google automatically backup the apps and re-download them?
Thanks,
EDIT: Nevermind... That's what Titanium Backup is for. Duh!
Okay i have cyanogen mod 7 on my phone with a backup of my phone. i rooted with unrevoked, i have installed TB and i backed up all apps and data, i also have busy box. I moved TB to my sd card. and that is all i have moved over to the sd card.
I changed over to cyanogen mod 7 and it saves nothing, no contacts, no apps, when i install TB it always force closes before even starting. I get upset because i cannot use any of hte apps i have, and i cannot find the market on it to download it.
i tried to move busy box over to my sd card and cannot.. any help is great help! thanks!
Did you wipe data and cache when you flashed? It is normal that your phone will reset like this. Use Tom manager and run the fix permissions script then reboot to recovery ans wipe the dalvik cache and reboot from recovery. It will take a while to boot this time but once up again most fc. Issues should be resolved. I suggest you also make sure you downloaded CM's google apps and choose what google applications you want if you haven't done so. Once you setup your google account any apps purchased from market should install. Then anything that didn't restore use TB and install any other apps. I suggest only installing the apps and not the data since you transfered from a sense rom to cm. It could cause more fc.
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When I do Rom Manager i click "Install Rom from SD Card" and then go to the rom download of CM7 and install it.. i checked both Backup Existing ROM and WIpe Data and Cache. The first time i did this i also downloaded google apps. which until you said that, i totally forgot i had done that (my bad).
How do i install google apps after I update to cm7? do i have to go into file explorer?
(sorry for the weird questions i have searched forever and cant find anything, but i probably missed this)
thank you for the super quick reply
Its a one time thing that starts after you set up your google account. It asks what apps to install like voice maps earth etc. To reinstall g apps you can use rom manager and choose install from SD choose the clockworkmod folder then download then goo-inside.me you should have the google apps zip there.
Upon reboot you should be prompted for what apps you want.
If you still have issues I suggesst you use rom manager and choose download rom then cm thencm7 rc2 make sure to do g apps and then just do the delete data and cache just remember choosing that wipes everything but to me it sounds like nothing is reinstalled so its not really an issue right now.
Good luck I'm out for the rest of the night. Hopefully you wont have anymore issues but otherwise I'm sure someone else will help you out.
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Okay, i am able to boot into cm7 RC 1 which i have downloaded.. should i downlaod rc2?
After that I go to ROM manager and i do the fix, then install google apps. i have done with both none checked and the data and wipe checked.
without it went into a bootload, and would pop up a green android guy and it says click the android guy, i go to click it and it bootloads again.
with it, i actually got it to start up, when i went to unlock it, it went into the bootload again, and the green android guy comes up and says click, when i try, it bootloads again.
What am i doing wrong?
I attempted to install RC2, it sat at the loading screen for minutes with nothing happening.
So i went back to RC1, got it to install, fixed permissions, installed gapps, this gave me the market app, and a few others (no gmail) but when i started it up, the google apps never actaully ran, and none of those apps work. Also, i cannot get things like handcent or most of my other apps to work, but some apps do work.
I am pretty puzzled.
thanks!
Okay, so have you went to settings>accounts>add>google? And logged in with your GMail yet? If so you can goto market and search for Gmail and it should download. The "Google apps" did run if you got the Green Android Guy. All it is a script to kick off the download from the Market, so they won't install till you get your Google Account logged in.
Im sorry if i was unclear,
Yes, at one time when i would install gapps the green guy would pop up, but would restart every 2-3 seconds. I saw a post from a guy who had this happen, and he said to update to the newest gapps. So i upgraded to rc2, and i could not even get rc2 to boot, i waited well over 20 minutes on the boot screen, and it never once actaully went into a bootload where it kept restarting.
After that i went back to RC1, and installed the newest gapps. the problem that persisted was that after i installed gapps, the green guy never came up, but i noticed a few things were installed like market.
I tried to load market and it would not work (even after permissions fix) but i got TB running and added apps on there to see if they would work. I could not get apps such as Handcent or most other apps would not work, and i could never actually log into gmail even though i had tried.
butler_007 said:
Okay i have cyanogen mod 7 on my phone with a backup of my phone. i rooted with unrevoked, i have installed TB and i backed up all apps and data, i also have busy box. I moved TB to my sd card. and that is all i have moved over to the sd card.
I changed over to cyanogen mod 7 and it saves nothing, no contacts, no apps, when i install TB it always force closes before even starting. I get upset because i cannot use any of hte apps i have, and i cannot find the market on it to download it.
i tried to move busy box over to my sd card and cannot.. any help is great help! thanks!
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a couple issues need to be addressed here. One you can't use HTC (Sense) apps with Cynaogen. In most instances Cyanogen has replaced them with an app that is similar and works for CM7. Otherwise you have to find something in the Market that you like to replace it.
The second issue is when you do a full wipe of the phone such as is required when installing CM7 all user data and apps are lost. What you end up with is basically a new phone as if it came out of the box for the first time. In most instances you will need to activate it and then put in your google account information. If you had google backup your apps they will download automatically once the phone is setup, which can be a pain and takes forever.
Also I personally don't use ROM Manager to install my ROMs, I do it through the recovery console. I do download the ROM (and gapps) with ROM Manager but cancel the install once its downloaded. I then move the ROM and gapps files from the clockwork folder on the sdcard out into the parent directory of the sdcard and install them from there.
I know i cant use the htc stuff, and i have figured out the contacts problems.
What i cannot get is first google apps to work, such as when i start up it either bootloads or the one time i did it and it just automatically added market and stuff.
I have never had to call vzw and redo anything.. so idk if i am just doing it wrong or what.
okay, in order to do this correctly, in the recovery mode do i do the wipe/factory restore to it to make it work correctly?
anyone? sorry i must be alot worse at this than i thought i was going to be.
Lol, we all have been noobs before, so don't worry too much if your still having trouble. So what are we trying to accomplish now? Factory reset with cm7 rc1 installed so you can start over?
It seems to me that you've been successful in getting cm7 installed just not up and running the way you want it. That and the fact that you lost all apps in the process right?
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Some people have reported problems with ROM Manager not wiping the phone properly and thus not getting CM7 to run properly. I had this problem too. So I just installed it through recovery. Select the option "wipe data/factory reset" and that will wipe all the folders on your phone that need to be wiped. Then select "install zip from sdcard" and the option to "choose zip from sdcard" which will allow you to scroll down to the CM7 zip file stored on the sdcard (must be in root directory not clockwork folder). After flashing the ROM before rebooting also flash gapps doing the same install zip method then reboot. If this doesn't work something else is wrong.
Once you have a working copy of CM7 installed you don't need to wipe the phone to install newer versions of CM7. You can install right over the old one this way you lose no data. Some people recommend doing a dalvik cache wipe before updating but I don't and haven't had any problems.
So in my ever continuing quest to find a ROM that works for me I think I may have finally found it, Uncommon Sense 1.1 I think it's an older ROM but it's exactly what I'm looking for, the stability of Sense but the launcher and lock screen look like AOSP Android. I flashed it last night and I loved it but I had a huge problem, so huge I went back and loaded a nandroid of my previous ROM, Senseless rEVOlution. When I loaded the ROM for the first time I loaded the ROM it wouldn't let me enter my Google account information. The option to do so was greyed out and when I tried to select it nothing happened, though it still let me enter the information for my Comcast.net email account. Then when I tried to open the market and the Gmail apps I immediately was sent back to the home screen, I didn't even get a forced close error. I went into settings>accounts and sync and found no option to add a Google account. I checked all my running applications but there was no opstion to update or uninstall the market (version 2.2.7). As a last resort I went to the web based market to download Astro file manager to my hone but it said that it was already installed and wouldn't let me install it again. I tried downloading another file manager (I forget what it's called) but it never downloaded to my phone. Finally I jut got fed up and restored my nandroid of Senseless rEVOlution. Not only did everything work the way it should but that other file manager had downloaded to my Senseless rEVOlution nandroid backup somehow. I really don't get it. I really want to use this ROM but this problem needs to be solved first. Doed anyone have know what the problem might be? Shoulf I unsync my Google account from Senseless rEVOlution and flash Uncommon Sense again?
Oh and I should mention that I culdn't get any of the apps and widgets that were installed, like the HTC colck widget, to recognixe my location. This too was fixed upon loading the Senseless rEVOlution nandroid.
Sounds like that the GAPPS weren't (aren't?) installed in Uncommon Sense 1.1? Try redownloading it from XDA and don't do the install if it is listed in ROM Manager. Flash the zip. Do a full wipe - factory user data reset/dalvik cache a few times, then flash the zip and see what happens.
Thanks RMarkwald. I flashed the ROM without the gapps package and everything now works like it should. This really is an old ROM, it even comes with the really old version of the market brfore it was redesigned (it has since updated to the most recent version). My only concern is that it is so old that my phone wants to install a system update, and with ll the recent talk about carriers cracking down on root users and Verizon tracking who is rooted and who isn't by tracking who;s phone takes updates and who;s doesn't I'm reluctand to take the update yet I can't get my phone to stop notifying me about it. Other then that great ROM.
There was a fix to get rid of that, I don't remember what it was but most devs have incorporated it into roms now. I'll look around but do a search for like remove OTA update notification or something to see what you find.
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You can use Skyraider 3.5 with the uncommon pack, it adds the launcher, app drawer and status bar of uncommon. It doesn't have musicmod, but it has pretty much everything else.
Hi everyone
For the last few ROM's I have installed I have always had the "pleasure" of seeing all the bloatware that I had downloaded on the last ROM instantly come back onto this, rendering the new flash basically useless.
I know of the thing where you have to uncheck that box when you sign into Google, but it no longer works. All apps come back as usual.
Is there a way of somehow deleting Googles record of the apps I have installed? Or some other workaround?
Thanks
Flash an aosp rom, install at least an app, than reflash the rom you favour. I don't know any other way, sorry.
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IIRC titanium backup has an option to remove links from the market. If you long press on the offending app and select "Disconnect from Market".
I hope it will work for you.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Will try those next time I flash.
I found that market apps only download automatically if you sign into your google account on the first boot before you can use the phone, like when you choose your wifi, service provider, language etc. If you just skip the google account login part here, and login later, such as when you first open the market, the apps won't download automatically (although your gmail and contacts will then start to sync). Not sure if it's just me, but this seems to be the case for me everytime.