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Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
SHicks18 said:
Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
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After you have rooted you can delete nearly anything you want, I wouldn't suggest doing it because I doubt you know what to do. But you do have the freedom to..
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
After rooting you can look into upgrading your radio and your wimax and your kernal.
Custom roms are like sneakers, They all have different purpose and size. The most common ones are damagedcontrol and fresh. Do your research and experiment and find your sneaker. You can also just wait til the official stable cm6 comes out. For now I use fresh.
Try oUt some themes and different apps that are for rooted devices only. And there us always something neiw to do with your evo.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I managed to make my way through SimpleRoot. But I am having a heck of a time digging through the forums to figure out what to do next. I feel like kind of an idiot, but I have no idea how to set up my backup/recovery "amon ra" right? And then I'd like to install the rooted 1.47 build and update my radio and wimax. Any direction would be VERY appreciated.
Thanks for the reply. Mind pointing me in the right direction for the radio kernel and wimax?
I'm new to this too. Read up a lot first. Easy root looks to make it pretty easy, but I learned more doing it the hard way. Used the two part method in dev section, by toast I think, with adb, nand unlock and all. Helps to understand the odd file structure, and what different parts do. You have to try things too, and just hope you don't f up. Using cm6 now and its pretty cool. Have fun man.
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Liked he said read. And do a lot of it. Last thing you want is to brick your phone
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gangsterholla179 said:
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
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What's wrong with Clockwork's wipe feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734564&highlight=clockwork
Also, as for flashing a recovery, if you install ROM Manager from the market, it will give you an option to flash either Clockwork or Amon RA. It will stay there even if you flash new ROMs later, though there's a quirk where a new ROM Manager install will ask you to flash recovery, but then if one is already there it won't really change it, it just needs to see it to believe it.
Installing new files won't make a difference if you switch ROMs. It wipes your data when you re-flash, so you'll lose it all anyway (unless you back up your apps with Titanium Backup or MyBackup). All you need is a recovery installed - and I actually recommend Clockwork, but only because I use it myself and I have no problems with it - and you can reboot into it, install a new ROM, and start playing. I've never flashed from ROM Manager, even though it gives the option, but I imagine it does the same thing, but runs it automatically after a recovery reboot.
Read the "favorite ROM" thread with the poll attached, lots of good ROM recommendations in there. I'll say it once more: I'm using Fresh 1.0.1 and netarchy's 3.7.3c kernel (Fresh-compatible version). It's so fast and smooth.
If you like your current setup but want to try a new ROM, use ROM Manager (or Clockwork as a recovery reboot) to do a Clockwork backup. That way you can return to your current state if you want to. It's basically a system image that you can restore.
Here's one helpful page to start with.
And have fun.
Back on fresh 0.5.3, clockwork was not doing a great job with the wipe, causing the boot to loop. I believe it wasn't completely wiping the dalik cache.
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please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem.
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary.
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now.
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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thegh0st said:
please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
(some roms may include a customer recovery, yes. However, you will need root AND an unlocked boot loader (meaning "s" is off or you have the engineering hboot) to flash a custom rom that would include a custom recovery.)
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary. (tethering is controlled by the kernel. If the Sprint Lover's rom is based off of a stock kernel, wireless tether will NOT work. You would need to flash a custom kernel that would allow for that.)
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
(not sure)
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
(no....you are backing up your current rom so you can go back to it should you get some kind of error while flashing the new rom)
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
(yes, you can root with Unrevoked Forever which gives you root and changes your hboot to s-off and then flash the Sprint Lovers rom without a kernel....again, don't mess with the Wimax unless it gets borked and you have to.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
(That thread is from November and very outdated. Do NOT try any of that because it will not work. Go here http://unrevoked.com/#evo and read. If you're tech inclined, this will be VERY easy for you to do.) Edit: I see this thread was updated 1/26. However, I am not familiar with this root method, so I prefer not to comment on it. Read, read and read. Also, check which software version your phone has and look for a root method for that particular software. Although I believe that Unrevoked currently works with all software version.)
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
(How does the phone know? I don;t know, but you don't have to worry about this. You do not need to call Sprint and reactivate your phone after rooting or flashing.)
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom. Inregards to Clockwork vs Amon, If you root with Unrevoked you will have clockwork, if you wish to switch Ra recovery, you should follow the step by step instructions in the Ra Recovery thread in the development section.
Sprint Lovers is a Sense rom, which means it is 100% functional, the only 90% roms are AOSP(MIUI, CM, Gingerbread, ect..) if a rom is based on the 3.70 OTA Update it will be a sense rom, and be 100% functional. Before you Flash any rom, ALWAYS go into your recovery and Wipe Data, Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache. Perform all wipes twice for best results. In Ra recovery these are all in the front page, in clockwork you need to go to advanced to access the dalvik wipe.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
Your phone keeps its number because the only thing flashing changes is your software, it doesn't change your phones ID numbers that were activated on the sprint network.
Here are some Links for you.
Unrevoked Root Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895208
Ra Recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Sprint Lovers Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
Again if you are new to all of this, Unrevoked is the fastest simplest method to rooting your phone.
I think you got two very good answers... Unrevoked by far easiest and trouble free rooting procedure IMO out there. I would just flash Amon recovery afterwards.
Also there is a nice program to help with other things called androidcommander.
Backing up your programs you can try MYBAckup
Like said previously no need to back up your rom but look into SPB Backup or Sprite Backup if you are still concerned
I think you have a pretty good handle on the phone stuff and the other answers you got were awesome...(gotta love the xda community!!)
My only gotchas you have to pay attention for are.
1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
2. Getting the custom recovery (whther clockwork or amon ra) gives you great options to flash new stuff and backup existing installations, keeping backups is your friend!
3. I prefer Amon Ra over clockwork but clockwork is not a bad recovery, it's just preference (there are also certain posts out there that have clockwork being required to use for CM7, this may or may not be the case, I love me some Amon Ra)
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
6. If something goes wrong don't get discouraged! restoring a nandroid or reflashing a rom will clear things up usually...
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
Forum advice
1. ignore the unfriendly people on the forums...they have nothing better to do than sit around and wait for people to ask dumb questions and get to use the same cliched links and jpegs to post to your question / thread...
2. Search and read and read and read before posting something that may have been covered.
Hope this helps, feel free to PM me, though I'm nowhere near the geniuses who are on these forums, so I'm closer to you than you think.
thanks for all the answers so far!
I am aware from all the reading and more reading not to mess with the wimax (RSA keys) as for flashing unless it is a last ditch effort to fix 4G. in my OP I just reference them to be sure on my understanding and how I am perceiving things to work. I believe the more I understand (basics, mechanics, etc.) the easier time I will have and the easier to trouble shoot.
oh and I have read and understand to backup the wimax/RSA keys also. that is made really clear in the threads I have read.
also I see everyone is saying to use unrevoked but from what I read here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
...I was not really looking to go that way. it states in this thread for the 3rd option "Longer step by step version: - Complicated and more time consuming but easier to troubleshoot" which is the way I would like to go so I understand more and have a better way to trouble shoot. I wouldn't wanna one click and bork with nothing to understand if that makes sense.
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
btw - just in case this helps:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP s-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
OCT 15 2010, 12:07:00
Software information
Android version
2.2
Baseband version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel version
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
[email protected] #15
Build number
3.70.651.1 CL294884 release-keys
Software number
3.70.651.1
Browser version
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version
60674
Hardware information
Hardware version
0003
- that is my current phone info (oh doh I was going to reference replies but I gotta wait 5 min first)
thegh0st said:
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
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A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
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1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
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see above reply
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
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this can be done with the stock setup right?
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
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so I would use this .zip and flash it like you flash a ROM or recovery etc.?
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
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thanks - good to keep in mind if I ever have to
Forum advice
1. ignore the unfriendly people on the forums...they have nothing better to do than sit around and wait for people to ask dumb questions and get to use the same cliched links and jpegs to post to your question / thread...
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I am usually pretty good at letting the water slide off and I tend to think I won't know things if I don't ask
2. Search and read and read and read before posting something that may have been covered.
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promise I have read a lot!
Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
rugedraw said:
A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
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thanks! I might have just missed that or forgotten (I will check that thread again) - i've got a jumble of info/things in my mind atm but once I actually do this and the more I do, well that usually straightens things out
1. As for rooting method there are a few but the easiest (at least to me) is unrevoked. Install drivers set your phone to charge only and wait a few minutes, voila! it's rooted.
4. It can be done with a custom recovery
5. Yes you flash it like a regular .zip like a rom or kernel (it's not 100% necessary but I like having it on my sd card and I normally combine it with a wipe from just the custom recovery
Khilbron said:
Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
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again see my reply - trying not to use the one click method
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
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doh! you answered one of my follow up questions right here lol so they do come with a kernel - gotcha! - and from all the reading I have done I understand about the wimax/RSA keys - I believe I read a thread and someone who answered said Amon_RA backs them up to but I will make a manual backup also to be sure
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
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thanks for all this and the info on what the backups are actually called per recovery - that is some great info - it seems I was correct in thinking I could not do a nandroid without rooting but I could do a nandroid or Amon_RA backup before flashing a ROM & technically a nandroid is the backup term for clockwork. glad to know this and what Amon_RA is called - I mighta been wondering where I messed up going with Amon_RA and not finding a nandroid option.
now you say I will have a custom recovery once I root? but I the reply before yours states I can root and leave everything stock to?
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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See my comments in red.
I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
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according the long method (this is the method I would prefer to use) this is required to use z4root (temp root) and get the phone to respond and is supported here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891674&highlight=z4root - please let me know if I read that wrong or misunderstood
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
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I was just making sure I understood how things work here - thank you though - and yes I know not to flash wimax/RSA keys - also about unrevoked see my other replies - not looking to use the one click method if possible
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
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thanks for this information to - very helpful - now about the ROM manager and using it to get a custom recovery I would do this after I get rooted right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
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so if root my phone & I stay with stock (ROM & kernel) then I can install some root requiring apps but I wouldn't be able to get tethering? is that right? I don't care if it is sprint's hotspot or an after market app. I just would like one that works
and thank you very much again for all the information and answers!
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Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
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thanks! I am definitely not worried about the native built in hotspot - just a wireless tether (and wired) that works - third party/after market - which ever
sounds like something to try at least before completely flashing the ROM
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This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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I am hardly the one to be answering for sure but from all the reading I have done I believe I did read at the very least a couple of times that you rename your backup file as PC36IMG.zip and flash it so I would think it is like just flashing a ROM but we would be flashing our backups.
hopefully someone with more knowledge will answer and confirm our thoughts
as for if that brings the wimax/RSA keys - good question
n00bhackin said:
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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Only if you backed up your wimax.img. In Amon Ra's backup you can select Wimax as one of the items to back up during a nandroid. I'm not sure about Clockwork recovery but in Amon Ra's it is not on by default. I created it once and haven't done it again as I have it backed up to my pc.
Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
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Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
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Actually just do a nandroid restore in the recovery and everything comes back. I have never used the PC36IMG.zip method. I also don't suggest restoring the wimax.img unless you have 4g problems, there is no reason otherwise...I suggest doing the backup and then saving the img in a safe place...
You can do a restore without certain .imgs in it.
Sweet...thanks so much, that just upped my confidence level to root. Needed to know I could and how to restore back to a starting point. Looks like I got a project now for this weekend...Root here I come....
Now I just gotta choose from all the great ROMs out there. Decisions decisions decisions.
Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Firstly, thanks for posting in the right section...
The one click root has been updated many times since th one you've downloaded, the latest version is 2.5.5, and includes flashing clockworkmod, which you can boot into to perform backups ad restores, as well as flash custom ROMs to the phone.
Superuser.apk is an app whose sole purpose is to ask your permission for a root privileged app to run. It is a safety precaution so that rogue apps don't use root privileges without your knowledge.
There are many ROMs to choose from, but the major decision for you is whether or not to run Froyo, which is still beta and unofficial. If you wish to run Froyo, you'll need to use the Windows program Odin in combination with a DK28 tar that updates the phone to Froyo.
Whether or not you stick with Android 2.1 (Eclair) or 2.2 (Froyo) is up to you, there are good ROMs for both versions. Before making any changes, it is always a good idea to backup any important data, as a lot of ROMs will require a data wipe to function correctly.
I would highly recommend reading the xda Epic wiki, and you'll find a lot of info and links there.
Good luck, and welcome to the community.
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Drockstar had some good info.
To answer a few questions:
2.1 can not install app to SD. You need 2.2
Yes, 2.3 is an old cwm. 2.5 is in the epic wiki. Gves you root and cwm 2.5. You need to Odin to stock dk28, then use one click root in order to install custom roms tha run on froyo.
You should backup in cwm before using odin. So that you can save your apps and data. Once you odin and root, you can go int advanced restore to get your apps back with their settings. I use titanium backup along with cwm for backing up. Works great for me. Like Drockstar said, the wiki has everything you need. Just follow the instructions step by step. Also, randy shear has a ton of youtube vids giving how-tos and demos. You might want to check out his vids.
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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
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You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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When you say backup in cwm what program is that referring to. Do you mean ClockworkMod Launcher? I have ROM Manager & Titanium backup. Once I ODIN how would I restore? Thx!
I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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RTD, I do not understand what you mean by backing up via cwm. Can you walk me through it? If I can get past backing out the old root I can follow the wiki instructions the rest of the way. Thanks for your help.
Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Everyone I am struggling on this. When I shutdown then after shutdown hold down on start, down vol & camera buttons I get the recovery mode however I only have four options as follows:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
What am I doing wrong as I need to find the backup option. Also what would the update.zip be?
Very frustrating...I just need to get this old root out & then it will be smooth sailing. Thx again everyone!
You're not rooted, that is the default recovery not clockworkmod
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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rocket321 said:
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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I went into ROM Manager (free edition) and the top option is available (Flash ClockworkMod Recovery). I clicked on it and it says "Successfully downloaded ClockworkMod recovery! When I then select 'Reboot into Recovery' it takes me to a prompt that gives me the following options:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
Also below that it says:
-- Install from package...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
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Someone suggested that I find a stand alone clockwork in the dev section. After looking over there I am uncertain which one to use & I do not want to grab the wrong one & brick my phone. If anyone could provide a link to a stand alone clockwork (& believes that is the best course of action) pls send it to me as a pm if it will not allow you to post on the forum.
Again I am sorry for clogging the board up with this however I am stuck. Once I get the clockworkmod setup & then ODIN I will be on my way. Thanks again!
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried this & it takes me to the blue backup screen as you mention. I need help finding a stand alone download for clockworkmod to try to fix my mess up.
You could put the 1-click root w/ cwm on top of the root you already have. I remember reading that it can royally screw your phone though. Its hit or miss. I personally wouldn't do it.
If you don't care too much about losing settings and saves (like game progress or settings on an app), you may just want to flash odin, do the one-click root w/ cwm and flash a rom.
I have found that backup apps like titanium and my backup are a little spotty with their data restoration capabilities. Nandroid, which is the backup/restore used in cwm is the best.
You could try to backup using my backup before you flash odin. No promises that you will be able to restore all of your data (apps, game progress and settings) with my backup though.
The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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Unfortunately even after flashing cwm & then restart (after shutdown) with the power, down vol & camera button I am still getting the blue recovery screen. Perhaps applying the update.zip would give me the cwm? Would anyone suggest applying update.zip?
If this doesn't work I will just ODIN & set every back up again so as not to waste more of everyones time on here. Again many thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.
I'd try running the 2.5.5 root first, if it works great, if not you'll have to odin but you were gonna do that anyway.
You might want to install odin and the samsung drivers and verify it can see your phone before anything has the chance to go wrong, that way you know you are ready to fix any problem that might come up.
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One more question... In regards to doing ODIN do I need to have anything special selected i.e. enable USB debugging or checking Unknown sources (allow install of non-market applications)?
Are there any other things I need to think about or setup aside from the phones drivers prior to ODIN?
Im really sorry in advance if this has been posted already, but i have the unofficial froyo 2.2 update because i wanted to use oovoo and skype on my epic and this was the easiest choice, being so i had the BlackBerry Storm 2 for awhile and have no experience with android. Okay so heres my question which i couldnt find, how do i go from DK28 to this bonsai rom that looks promising, i like the froyo update in the beginning but got really tired of the wifi bs and notification bs and not to mention the sms log in your recent call logs? annoying.
For the record i did not use odin to get 2.2 on my epic i used the flash way which i found on this forum, i dont remember where, it was a month ago.
Please help, id really like to enjoy my epic more.
Ive read alot of different posts. and even in the bonsai post there isnt anything that tells me how to root my phone. Cause im convinced i need to root my phone to install this. can anyone help?
AyudaMe said:
Ive read alot of different posts. and even in the bonsai post there isnt anything that tells me how to root my phone. Cause im convinced i need to root my phone to install this. can anyone help?
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One Click Root
That should work to root your device. The instruction are detailed and if you dont know something i suggest reading through it...To flash bonsai you need to have ext 4 so you might want to root with this:
Clockwork 3
This will convert your system to ext4 but will also wipe all your settings and phone clean..many people have had problems with flashing from stock so i suggest flashing bonsai 1.1.4 and install all the apps and setting you want.
Leave it just how u want and without wiping anything (dalvik, cache, etc) go back to recovery (power down phone, 3 finger salute) and flash 2.0.1. The great thing about the new bonsai is that it Backsup all your apps and settings for you
so when the process is done your phone will look exactly the same (which is why i said to flash 1.1.4 first. It will make your life ALOT easier) Currently it will not carry over your theme and i suggest not installing one until themers fix the
framework.apk to work with the newest release. hope this helps and if anything you can ask on the bonsai thread and there are guys there that can help out.
Edit: Forgot to mention that you will need bonsai 1.1.4 on your sd when you root because you need to flash this after the root with clockwork 3. (i think it says flash kernel after. Skip that because it already includes the kernel needed)
so where do i put the clockwork3?
i figured that part out, sorry. i just need to figure out the rest on how to install the damn bonsai rom.
Well once you have ran the one click file that he gave you then put the bonsai rom on your on the root of of your SD card. Boot into recovery. Select install zip from SD card, choose zip from SD card and find the bonsai rom on the SD card. That's it. It will flash and then select reboot if it doesn't for it for you.
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I have been wanting to root and try a custom rom but I was scared of brick. Anyway I finally rooted with Unrevoked 3.3 which installed Clockwork recovery also and after that I installed rom manager. When I went to do a backup of current rom it said I need to install Clockwork recovery first but its there already. I know there is guides everywhere but thats the problem not sure which to use to learn what to do before I try flashing new rom. What about kernel I really don't understand where to go from here. I am rooted and Clockwork recovery flashed but don't know where to go from here. I am not a idiot just a little guidance please! I really want learn process of installing new and restoring old roms with my Evo. How do I know what other updates need to done before using a certain rom like kernel and radio? Thanks Alot To Anyone That Can Help A Fellow Android Lover!
You try reflashing clockwork recovery?
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No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!
Well first backup your rom and wimax keys and then go to the xda android development section and download a rom, clear cache /dalvik/ and I think its system restore something like that..I don't use cwr
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savannahmick said:
No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!
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Just dl rom go to rom manager
I think its install from memory card and rom manager takes care of the rest....you can also dl roms from this forum on ur phone it makes it easier
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First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should prompt you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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dougjamal said:
First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should ask you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
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One more thing I just let Rom Manager install recovery and after that I did backup. The next step would be to dl rom and place it in sd card right? Do I need to rename file or update kernel or radio and where do I put the new rom for manager to find? Also I didn't use Unrevoked forever just 3.3 will I need to run the forever app also? I know what a noob! Man I really Thank You for helping! I am dying to try some new roms Froyo is boring. What rom what rom do you recommend? Thanks Again!
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Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
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(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Root of card is preferred but anywhere is fine since you will have to point rom manager to it. Alot of roms come with kernels so I wouldn't sweat it. No need to rename. A good starting rom are any kingsroms insane fast and all features usually work most are still froyo but look much different than ur stock rom
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(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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droidguy718 said:
Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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I, too, use amon RA and love it. As for not giving good instructions, don't worry about it. There have been numerous times when I've given summarized instructions because I either assumed the OP knew what I was talking about or I was rushing because I had something else to do. The important thing to remember is that you helped. Period!...
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Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!
savannahmick said:
Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!
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Not to worry if u run into any problems there are many threads with instructions to unbrick or fix ur problem and people here are usually very quick to help that's why I love it here....and rom manager is very good at not making mistakes in the flash process I used it when I first started so ur in good hands
Sent From My Evo4G Running Sense 3.0
And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....
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And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....
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Hopefully, all will go well.
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One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
Just d/l the latest version, put it on your sd card, reboot to recovery and flash it, then when you reboot to system, you'll get the prompt to go to the market and d/l each app.
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One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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You can either flash it immediately after flashing Salvage-Mod or boot into Salvage-Mod first and then press and hold the power button until the menu appear
Select reboot and then select recovery. Once you're back into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik cache and then flash the Google applications (gapps). Afterwards, reboot.
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savannahmick said:
One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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Well I first off wana say, you were in good hands with dougjamal.
To flash gapps:
1. Download the latest gapps / the ones provided in the salvage mod thread
2. Boot into recovery.
3. After you have flashed the salvage mod rom, wipe your cache and dalvik cache, then flash the gapps zip.