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HTC Desire Future Update

Hi, where can i find all the planned updates for the desire? and is FroYo is really different than 2.1?

HTC have not published any sort of roadmap for future updates, so your best bet is to go to your nearest psychic, and ask them!
And to answer your second question: Yes.
Regards,
Dave

June the 23rd ... thats the date we are all freed from 2.1.. LOLO!!
But then you have to throw Orange / O2 etc etc in the pot.. so to be honest ...
look on the forum .. and either get a new rom or wait till next year !!!!

23rd June has only been stated by a member on here - there's no guarantee that either him or the person he spoke to is telling the truth.

Unless the guy knew the iPhone 4 was coming out then

EddyOS said:
Unless the guy knew the iPhone 4 was coming out then
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HAHA.. this is funny... if it was true, Froyo update comes in the same time with iPhone 4.

dgattenb said:
June the 23rd ... thats the date we are all freed from 2.1.. LOLO!!
But then you have to throw Orange / O2 etc etc in the pot.. so to be honest ...
look on the forum .. and either get a new rom or wait till next year !!!!
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Sorry im kinda lost in translation here whats orange/o2 and why will i throw it? Lol
So basically the 720p, divx playback is just rumors?
So htc will just give us froyo then discontinue the updates and support?

First, Google makes the Android OS, so they'll release 2.2 (Froyo).
Then HTC add their own front-end to it, called Sense UI.
Finally, Orange, 3, Vodaphone and so on add their own tweaks (and rubbish apps) on top.
Each of those additional steps takes extra time, so basically Nexus One users will get it first, unbranded Desire users will have to wait a while for the HTC version, then others will have to wait even longer for the network versions.

If HTC go on the offensive with 2.2 on the 23rd i'll be laughing evilly over here. tbh I think HTC need to get this update out as simply put Sales will fall. the race between the two companies will be incredibly close. HTC need to make sure it's best hand is on the table. and keep there core elements separate and upgradable on the fly.

HTC will just release another dirge of handsets and forget the Desire. Am I being cynical??

Nope,
but with an official, yes will update it, with a possible date i'm hopeful.

i see.. too bad i live in the philippines so i will not get the updates from the mobile ops in other countries..
so the divx and 720p are just rumors?

dainesefreak said:
HTC will just release another dirge of handsets and forget the Desire. Am I being cynical??
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I don't think you're far off with that assumption, my previous phone was a touch HD their former flagship model, it got one lame excuse of an update that did more harm than good, they kind of [email protected] us over with the 6.5 update that brings a stable and fast build, gave some lame excuse about users not wanting an update anyway
That made me not wanting to buy an HTC ever again, if only the desire wasn't the best android phone avaible at the time and my contract wasn't up for renewal, I wouldn't have consider another HTC.

According to a post on official blog of Polish service provider ORANGE, HTC is due to release the Froyo update for Desire in August 2010.

yabasta said:
According to a post on official blog of Polish service provider ORANGE, HTC is due to release the Froyo update for Desire in August 2010.
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and the link to that blog is: www . blog . tp . pl/wojciechjabczynski/entry/pragnienie_będzie_w_czerwcu
(sorry for messy link - new user)
Use translate if you like, or here's my awesome translation of:
"HTC poinformował nas, że umożliwi klientom upgrade systemu w okolicach sierpnia."
"HTC informed us, that it will provide system upgrade for it's clients around august"

diablous said:
If HTC go on the offensive with 2.2 on the 23rd i'll be laughing evilly over here. tbh I think HTC need to get this update out as simply put Sales will fall. the race between the two companies will be incredibly close. HTC need to make sure it's best hand is on the table. and keep there core elements separate and upgradable on the fly.
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It doesnt matter anymore. HTC already lost this battle. HTC desire cant stand versus an Iphone 4.

Balos said:
It doesnt matter anymore. HTC already lost this battle. HTC desire cant stand versus an Iphone 4.
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Yes throw your phones in the bins everyone, theyre useless now.

No. I just wish Id waited. Wanted Divx support and 720p. Well since I cant get that on Desire nor Iphone. I take the later cuz it is simple better.

We are only customer... buy and enjoy it

The way I see it:
I purchased an awesome Desire my first HTC phone of many. I did not expect plenty of updates but do expect updates to solve issues.
If I dont get any updates then fine as my handest runs like a dream. I dont have any issues and dont need any solving (well only user error)
Surely good buisness is to release a new handset rather than offering new roms to exsiting customers. As long as problem solving updates are done im happy and surely you cannot slate HTC for this.
If you purchased a Ferrari and then they release a new engine, sat nav, bluetooth, leather etc you cannot expect a free upgrade as then you wont purchase the new model!

HTC forgets about old devices

Hi
My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?

robnil said:
Hi
My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?
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I had a Touch Pro, and since MS is the developer I would blame them not HTC for updating MS software. HTC did actually update the Touch Pro a while ago, and a second update of Winmo, should be released in due time. But I would still blame MS for their crappy 6.5 Winmo OS.
According to HTC, will Froyo come some where after Today and 12 weeks ahead. I guess that it will come rather sooner than later. And if somebody cant wait for offical OTA updates, root the device and update to Froyo.

Apparently the 23rd of June thing leaked by one of the support staff was tosh (supported by the fact that the date has been and gone and no Froyo yet!). One of HTC's spokes-people said at Google I/O that...
“We are working hard with our partners to update the HTC Sense experience on Froyo and distribute it to our customers as fast as possible. We expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Desire, Legend and Wildfire beginning in Q3″
Being as this is some super speedy new kernel I think its wise that they test their Sense UI to bits before issuing the update
That aside...GIVE ME 2.2 NOW!!!

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What do you mean no word? They've confirmed that it is coming, but not given a precise timescale.
Past Froyo, I wouldn't expect further updates, but I suppose there is a slim chance we'll get Gingerbread. However, since Google will be moving to yearly OS updates after that, I can't see HTC providing anything beyond that - the economics of it just don't make any sense.
Regards,
Dave

Can you update with hacked roms and get everying working with the hardware (and just loose the gui) or is it like i remembered with the wizard, problems with drivers to the camera etc.. ?
If not i guess I could transform the desire-hardware into a fully updated gingerbread-nexus in future.

Given that the OS is open source, barring specific hardware requirements, there's no reason why later versions of AOSP Android couldn't be ported to the Desire. Unlike WinMo phones, we always have the option of compiling up Android to suit the hardware.
Regards,
Dave

Ok, how many threads are going to be like this???
Yes you can flash to froyo now and loose sense ui, give a look at development section and/or use search or even google search. HTC didnt officially stated anywhere yet that Froyo is coming to Desire @blabla... However there was a leak about Froyo, which was miscommunication and actually 23rd of June was the date when Google announced the release of code of Froyo to everyone. So from that date HTC is able to work on Froyo.
And look with help of search i was able to find this http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/ and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713588

Of course they forget about old devices, Touch HD and all those other devices are outdated. I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.

Dude, read the threads around here. As of today HTC has officially said 2.2 will come in Q3 of this year.

ArtieQ said:
I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.
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Not entirely true, the TD2 did get a Sense 2.5 after the promised WM 6.5 update. After that the TD2 was pretty much dead for HTC.

yeah they do, its hard to get support for older devices lol

Im hoping that as long as google continue to update the nexus, HTC will update Desire, Anyway what I read gingerbread is trying to clean up the UI's so there will be no need for manufacturers UI's, This will make updating in the futher alot easier I guess and possible updates will be pushed for longer even thought it will change to yearly, Alot of people are stuck with the same phone for around 2 years

Android 3.0 (gingerbread) getting a revamped UI. Low end phones miss out...

The next big OS update after Froyo will demand a minimum of a 3.5-inch display, a 1GHz processor, and 512MB of RAM (The desire has all the minimum requirements plus a little bit more..).
My question to you guys is; Do you think the mighty HTC will continue to support the Desire much after Froyo. The Desire is set for a US release to select operators in August, so perhaps this will spur HTC on to keep on supporting the phone seen as it will be new in the US.
Android 3.0 (Gingerbread)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-gingerbread-getting-revamped-ui-froyo-living-on-for/
Desire to US
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/htc-desire-in-the-us-pipeline-for-select-regional-operators-th/

Why would you or anybody else care about what we think HTC will do? Go on Facebook and discuss it there.
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time ago...
Visual redesign is nice, now we need some change in forum policy, because S/N is very low this days.

^ what a grumpy prick

vlasac said:
Why would you or anybody else care about what we think HTC will do? Go on Facebook and discuss it there.
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time ago...
Visual redesign is nice, now we need some change in forum policy, because S/N is very low this days.
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What crawled up your **** this morning? I was asking a question to find out hat other people think, because un-like you, I'm interested in other peoples opinions. Also, asking a question provides more substance and ability to lengthen the thread to more interesting posts other than "Cool" and "I can't wait for Gingerbread".
If that's the wrong way to treat a forum then let me know and I'll refrain from posting in the future.

Some people think we're running out of space! If you dont like a thread, dont reply to it, let it sink into the mud.
Anyway I hope that we get Gingerbread since we meet the spec.
If not it will be ported somehow I'm sure Maybe ex sense programmers will join the cheffing team

vlasac said:
Why would you or anybody else care about what we think HTC will do? Go on Facebook and discuss it there.
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time ago...
Visual redesign is nice, now we need some change in forum policy, because S/N is very low this days.
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You sir, are one grumpy twat.
My guess would be that The Desire MIGHT get a gingerbread update, but if it does, it most certainly will be the last update for the device.
I Don't understand why HTC does not simply provide 2 different official ROMS for their phone. One with Sense enabled, the other being a simple build from AOSP with the right drivers. It wouldn't be that time consuming in regards to maintaining the vanilla build.

Exactly, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
It would be nice to see the next big OS update before they officially stop support.

vlasac said:
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time
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I think yours is the childish post.
If you can't learn to skip over threads you don't appreciate, then you should go to a forum that doesn't promote healthy discussion, although it will likely be stagnant.
Regarding the original post, I think we will get gingerbread, although after a longer delay than froyo as the desire won't be the flagship by then.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

When a Device matches only the min Spec
even if it gets it , it should be quite slow i think ...

vlasac said:
Why would you or anybody else care about what we think HTC will do? Go on Facebook and discuss it there.
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time ago...
Visual redesign is nice, now we need some change in forum policy, because S/N is very low this days.
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LOL at you grumpy @[email protected]$. cool yourself fella, have a cookie.

SkyWalker1726 said:
When a Device matches only the min Spec
even if it gets it , it should be quite slow i think ...
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I don't think the minimum requirement are a technical requirement as much as standards that google had "failed" to set to begin with. My guess is that this was to avoid manufacturers sticking Android on low end devices to find later that it cannot be upgraded to new android releases. Setting a 1ghz, 512mb RAM minimum limit means google knows for sure that they have some margins and that phones will be able to run future updates.

vlasac said:
Why would you or anybody else care about what we think HTC will do? Go on Facebook and discuss it there.
I am sick of childish posts like this .This use to ba a useful forum long time ago...
Visual redesign is nice, now we need some change in forum policy, because S/N is very low this days.
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32 posts in 5 years! Well you are a useful member of the community!
****!

speedking34 said:
I Don't understand why HTC does not simply provide 2 different official ROMS for their phone. One with Sense enabled, the other being a simple build from AOSP with the right drivers. It wouldn't be that time consuming in regards to maintaining the vanilla build.
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this is a great idea, if anything it might boost their sales of the devices as people who dont like sense but actually like the look of the phone and specs may get one.

speedking34 said:
I don't think the minimum requirement are a technical requirement as much as standards that google had "failed" to set to begin with. My guess is that this was to avoid manufacturers sticking Android on low end devices to find later that it cannot be upgraded to new android releases. Setting a 1ghz, 512mb RAM minimum limit means google knows for sure that they have some margins and that phones will be able to run future updates.
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I completely agree. It's important that Google finally face the facts that it is important to have minimum requirements - and the important part ist, that they are high enough to last for some years. Otherwise you will have the same problems in 1 year...again...
I definitely think that the Desire is potent enough to run Android 3.0. I doubt it though that it will officially get an update.

Whilst Google may have made the mistake of not setting minimum requirments the OS is still relatively young. If they implement it now, within the next few months nie years they may be able to prevent further fragmentation.

And I think it is also important that if it gets fragmented (and it will, even iOS is fragmented now) you make clear cuts. Not like what we have seen until today where some devices have verison x, another has version y for no clear reason. Phones with hardware X get X and, those with hardware Y get Y. And it is also important to make updates as easy as possible, and I think they are doing that too. I read that they want to make the cusom UIs (like Sense) really just shallow so they arent deeply integrated into the system.
I think those two steps are really important and necessary for the future.

The Nexus One will get the next OS ('Android 3') for sure, unless Google makes some sudden changes in their plan. Since the Desire is the Nexus but with even more RAM, it's pretty sure we will see a working Android 3 ROM. It's good to be brothers with Google's kid
Don't tell anybody I told you this, but IF HTC decides to be nice and provide Android 3 for the Desire, the OTA update will arive in February 2011. Off course expect some new killer Android 3 devices to make you forget about the Desire and buy a new 400€ device.
J/k at the part I am a secret spy @ htc xD

Didn't google once mention that they would make the individual components of the OS updateble, so that even phones with sense or blur could update as soon as it came out? (so if they implement that in android 3.0 and we get that update, we will be golden)

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Didn't google once mention that they would make the individual components of the OS updateble, so that even phones with sense or blur could update as soon as it came out? (so if they implement that in android 3.0 and we get that update, we will be golden)
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It would be great if it was possible to upgrade your phone OS without waiting for your the developer to update their software.
But if that means that it will be much harder for app developers to make their software work on as many phones a possible I don't think they should do this.
Anyway, I hope HTC will bring an Android 3.0 upgrade for the Desire. Damn, I'm still waiting for 2.2 :/
*checks for updates on his Desire*
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I don't think it's actually shocking news that low end phones won't get the 3.0 update, even though I think the specs mentioned (1 GHz, 512 MB RAM) would be very high for a *phone* OS, probably released within a few months. I hope it will not really be "minimum" specs, but more "recomended" specs.

Flaggie said:
Didn't google once mention that they would make the individual components of the OS updateble, so that even phones with sense or blur could update as soon as it came out? (so if they implement that in android 3.0 and we get that update, we will be golden)
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Yeah they're doing this in Android 3.0.
I'm thrilled about this, I hope they revamp things like the music app and the message app.

Hilarious response from HTC regarding Android 2.3 on Desire and some other things

Dear Paulius,
Hi Paulius, thanks for getting in touch with us about all your questions.
Firstly, HTC do not control this application, the person in the thread referred to it as "the official OTA HTC Froyo update". The updates actual name is Google Android 2.2 (Froyo). It is just on a HTC device. If you want to know anything about this application, you will need to contact Android Market Customer Care, or Google Customer Care. We do not have information nor able to supply support for third party applications, I am sorry about that.
<this was regarding this bug: http://androidforums.com/desire-sup...ogle-talk-shortcut-people-gone-froyo-bug.html - as you can see, they don't have an idea on what they are talking about, besides, vanilla froyo does not have this bug, and this update is indeed HTC's, not Google's>
With regards to your Wifi turning off, you may have the sleep function off, but this will not stop the phone from stopping the Wifi connection when it loses a link and is unable to establish after 3 attempts. This is to prevent the function from draining the battery as constant Wifi connection and constantly trying to re-establish a connection can see any smart phone from draining the battery in just a couple hours.
<I mentioned that Wi-Fi would go to sleep on battery even if I set it to never turn off>
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
As far as HTC Sense is concerned, this is not yet a fully functioning service and is still in the testing phase, it has been put out for general access as the best test pilots are always the ones that are going to be using the facility on a daily basis any way. It is just a case of sit and wait for everything to be working properly, but in the meantime, expect HTC Sense.com to be quite buggy with most of its functions unusable.
<Yeah, as if HTC sense alone is a service, I was referring to HTCSense.com, which is quite functioning with Desire HD and Z; anyways, good attitude, lol!>
Google have only just released 2.2 to the General Market, you will find that some phones are not viable for the 2.2 update, this will be because that particular device is not compatible, or Google are still working on the coding, but, all phones that can have 2.2 will have 2.2 and I would not worry too much about Android 3.0 for now, that is going to be something that Google release some time into the new year.
<Desire already had 2.2, I was asking about 2.3 update and about wether they were thinking of bringing 3.0 to Desire, when it get's released, of course>
Not to be funny, but if you are moving away from HTC because of something not in their control, or because of a little rough patch during their development stage, then you can not really call your self a loyal customer, rather someone that is with HTC because it was the better option at the time.
<I mentioned poor HTC Hero support and said that I was disappointed about Hero not having the 2.2 update even though I didn't have it anymore at the time, because that shows how HTC treat their customers... and what are they talking about? I had like 4 phones from them and they dare to not call me loyal? And everything is exactly in their control!>
Besides which, it is Google whom you should be talking to about their updates and your questions about releasing of the 2.2, their future updates and so on.
I hope that I have answered your questions, if you have any more in the future, please do not hesitate in getting in touch with us again.
All the Best,
Carl.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10GBCW49ENA001939.
Sincerely,
Carl
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Want to see what others are saying? Have a question to ask other HTC fans?
So what you guys thing? Isn't this just pathetic?
P.S.: sorry for bad English, I was in a hurry to post this as soon as possible

With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2
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Lovely, I love HTC

pauliusba said:
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
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C'mon HTC. You cant be saying this!!

Hum.....so I guess we can reference this next time some one asks for windows on a desire. Lol

Carl needs to be fired for saying the Desire HD and Z run WinMo...Seriously.

And what if I want WinMo to my Desire, where can I find the solution? Should I write to HTC Support??? LOL

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Carl needs to be fired for saying the Desire HD and Z run WinMo...Seriously.
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Looks like wrong hire Fire him

I doubt Carl works for HTC..

LOL.
Retard most likely work as a PR junkie, not very well versed technically. Nor is he updated about the technological progress that the company is going through. Answer was pulled out from where the sun doesn't shine without reference to the appropriate departments.
Best response will be to complain about his lack of technical knowledge in helping you

Well this can happen if the customer support are not familiar with the product he or she's supporting.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

He don't know what he's talking about...but I can't blame him for that, that's his bosses fault for hiring him, maybe they can't get people with enough knowledge in the subject for the wage they are offering.
But bring rude to a customer like that is out of order.

work experience boy?

Honestly it doesn't surprise me, every time I have contacted HTC support it has given me the impression that I was talking to a monkey. What country is that support team in? That is unacceptable, what an absolute joke.

Just remember next time you contact HTC to ask for Carl...
perhaps this will help: http://www.htc.com/sea/support/customer_care.html

Such negligence in hiring for such an important post, can be disastrous for the company's repute.

abhik55 said:
I doubt Carl works for HTC..
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sounds like it

pauliusba said:
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
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Come on guys, give Carl a chance.
He must have been drunk when he replied you, there is no other explanation, he must have been drunk .... and distorted.

He might be trying to flog off the older WM65 devices they have left in stock?
or probably more likely, just confused with the HTC Touch HD2 or something... Desire HD, Touch HD2... maybe he thought the Z was a 2?
who knows - maybe they are just trying to fill up the staff for the xmas period...

irkan said:
Come on guys, give Carl a chance.
He must have been drunk when he replied you, there is no other explanation, he must have been drunk .... and distorted.
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No, he just make cofusion with the template they have..Htc customer care have some templates to use for every case, and every template have some input (like the device)..Maybe he just put the wrong input (wm 6.5) and he didn't read the output that sent u...
LOL..joking..but I think thats the real situation, htc has always replied me with some default template..

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LOL..joking..but I think thats the real situation, htc has always replied me with some default template..
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I know what you mean - I always feel I get a default template reply, but with some areas for free text.... I get a MUCH better sense of a real response from HTC than with a lot of other companies to be honest - which is why if you ask the same question twice you do get different replies - but mostly the same 'content'...
I do generally feel a reply has come from a person rather than a machine at least even if its wrong!

HTC One X EOL (End of life)

Good evening everyone, on a wave of excitement caused by the latest update for HTC One X I think it might be the good time to discuss something more serious and disappointing.
It is very likely that HTC One X just came to its EOL. In this post I would like to keep any information relevant to the future of a 2012 flagship phone and I also would like to see some smart thoughts from forum members.
So here is how the future is seen at this moment:
Official HTC firmware updates
The latest official update that rolled out in mid-august is the 4th major update for HTC One X. It features Android 4.2.2 with the latest version of HTC Sense, including minor changes that present in the current HTC One (2013) firmware. It is almost completely obvious that Sense 5 with 4.2.2 is the last major update made by HTC.
It doesn't even need any explanation, but it may be nice to put up some facts proving the point of view expressed above:
There've been no HTC Android phones that made it to the 5th major update (first digit in the firmware version number). It is very unlikely that One X could become an exception;
There are no reasons for HTC to keep One X up-to-date for so long as it is being replaced from the market by newer models;
One X was released on April 2nd 2012. There are still 4 months left of Google update program, but no vendor except Google and possibly Samsung ever kept this promise;
HTC is generally known for a very naughty update policy. Look at our phones' little brother, HTC One V. It was released at the same time, but it never got any major update at all.
However, history knows a case when HTC being pressed by the community released a newest firmware for their phone marking it as forever-beta firmware. This phone was HTC Desire and it happened more than 2 years ago. I doubt that it could happen ever again.
But when it comes to minor updates, it is possible that we would get an official 4.3 update, which actually doesn't feature anything astonishingly new, and here's why:
HTC has trimmed their line-up considerably, so they should absolutely be able to provide support for longer. People will be looking to their treatment of the One S/X/X+ to gauge how well the new One devices will be updated. You know that HTC's outlook isn't great, so they need to do everything they can to improve their image.
The One X+ is much newer, so not getting 4.3 would be incredibly disappointing. Since the One X is basically the same device, it would not require much effort to update it as well.
4.3 is apparently such a minor update that multiple manufacturers won't release the 4.2 updates they've been working on and instead go right to 4.3...
In conclusion:
FUTURE ONE X OFFICIAL MAJOR FIRMWARE UPDATE IS VERY UNLIKELY, BUT A COUPLE OF MINOR UPDATES COULD GET RELEASED
Unofficial HTC firmware ports
Porting is a very sad thing to talk about when it comes to Sense ROMs on One X. HTC One X has Tegra 3 inside and it is the only HTC Android phone with this kind of SoC. Porting from devices with different SoC is extremely complicated and nearly impossible. However, this isn't true for HTC One XL which got a very popular Snapdragon SoC.
FUTURE ONE X UNOFFICIAL SENSE FIRMWARE PORTS ARE VERY UNLIKELY
Unofficial AOSP (Android Open-Source Project) development
AOSP is happily the last chance to keep One X up-to-date. Google Nexus 7 (2012) is based on the same Tegra 3 platform and this device will be up-to-date for a very long time. This fact + Android being an open source mobile OS + a huge AOSP development community gives us hope to get the latest Android versions in future. However, with all the simplicity of the AOSP development process, HOX AOSP community is being shrunk down:
- The device maintainers or devs for AOKP (IceColdJelly by LordClockan) and SlimBean (by Krarvind) don't anymore have a HOX or aren't using them and are unlike to provide updates for Android 4.3 and above.
- Pabx who has been deving for AOSP has also stated that he isn't sure if he has time to provide further updates for 4.3 +.
- Unless those roms get new maintainers or devs, the only AOSP style ROMs that will be developed in the future are Avatar ROM (a mix of CM and MIUI), Cyanogenmod and CarbonRom (their own take on AOSP - albeit updating HOX quite slowly).
- While it's very likely that Sense 5 will be the last major update from HTC and Sense ROM developers, it also looks like AOSP is slowly withering away.
THERE WILL BE SOME MAJOR AOSP RELEASES IN THE FUTURE
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In conclusion I should say that I'm a kind of person that likes everything new and because of that I will get a newer phone really soon as many other XDA forum members and it is very depressing since One X is really a great device in every aspect.
For those who are thinking of getting the One X, it is a relatively cheap but very nice device to get in 2013, but you shouldn't expect it to be up-to-date in terms of software.
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Everyone, make sure to express your point of view if you disagree with the information above. More information is always better.
The list of the nice guys who expressed their point of view and explained it, therefore making this post more informative and accurate:
akselic
amorpheus

very informative and great post mate

Lol I just decided to buy one ... and now I'm discovering it's its EOL ... anyway, I agree with the content of OP and I'm buying the HOX because I still think it's one of the best in terms of design and materials and I really believe in the developers community, that seems to be really active... Hoping it will be the same for a long time...

Adiost said:
Unofficial AOSP (Android Open-Source Project) development
AOSP is happily the last chance to keep One X up-to-date. Google Nexus 7 (2012) is based on the same Tegra 3 platform and this device will be up-to-date for a very long time. This fact + Android being an open source mobile OS + a huge AOSP development community gives us hope to get the latest Android versions in future.
THERE WILL BE LOTS OF AOSP RELEASES IN THE FUTURE
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Some thoughts on this:
- The device maintainers or devs for AOKP (IceColdJelly by LordClockan) and SlimBean (by Krarvind) don't anymore have a HOX or aren't using them and are unlike to provide updates for Android 4.3 and above.
- Pabx who has been deving for AOSP has also stated that he isn't sure if he has time to provide further updates for 4.3 +.
- Unless those roms get new maintainers or devs, the only AOSP style ROMs that will be developed in the future are Avatar ROM (a mix of CM and MIUI), Cyanogenmod and CarbonRom (their own take on AOSP - albeit updating HOX quite slowly).
- While it's very likely that Sense 5 will be the last major update from HTC and Sense ROM developers, it also looks like AOSP is slowly withering away.
While the HOX is an excellent phone, I am personally very disappointed that it is coming to the end of its lifespan in less than 1½ years. It also forces me to seriously reconsider my future device as I tend to stick to my phone for around 2 years until updating. There's no point in buying a device that will not only stop receiving updates from the manufacturer quickly but also halt development in such a short time period.
One more reason to only support Nexus (or a device like HTC One / SGS 4 with pure Android) in the future.

Hmm mate I've owned many phones. Whilst HTC are crap with updates..with the one x they did a good farewell. Sense 5 has bought life to it again. I had the HTC one..the hype wasn't deserved. It's still got a while yet. As for aosp..they never feel complete due to there camera
Besides who doesn't like upgrading. The only downfall with pure android is the goth colour scheme. Saying this I loved my gnex. The nexus 4 didn't compare.
Swings and roundabouts swings and roundabouts
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Very well written post. This time next year I'll have my next phone.
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I don't know, I hope that the HOX keeps getting updated through AOSP but our dev community is much smaller than it was before, what with most of our former kernel devs having quit or just disappeared, it seems like AOSP releases will be fewer and further between than before.
Don't forget that HTC isn't just bad with updates, they are also notoriously bad with kernel source releases, if i remember correctly it was very close to the 90 deadline when they released kernel source for the 4.1 update. and in the time leading up to that update and then subsequently waiting for source is when the majority of devs left.
The Hox is far from dead, there is no reason for Cyanogen mod or Maximus / ARHD roms to stop development soon, but my prediction is that in terms of community created content we won't see much that deviates from them.
it is a great boon for us that the Nexus 7 has the same chipset as us, however there are a lot of other parts at work in the HOX and many of them are not the same as the N7. This is probably why there are still some bugs in our AOSP roms, because it's not as simple as just porting from one device with the same chipset.

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It is almost completely obvious that Sense 5 with 4.2.2 is the last major update made by HTC.
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I don't think it is that simple. If nothing had changed between 2011 and 2013, your prediction would be spot-on, but that's not the case. Let me offer counterpoints to yours:
HTC has trimmed their line-up considerably, so they should absolutely be able to provide support for longer. People will be looking to their treatment of the One S/X/X+ to gauge how well the new One devices will be updated. You know that HTC's outlook isn't great, so they need to do everything they can to improve their image.
The One X+ is much newer, so not getting 4.3 would be incredibly disappointing. Since the One X is basically the same device, it would not require much effort to update it as well.
4.3 is apparently such a minor update that multiple manufacturers won't release the 4.2 updates they've been working on and instead go right to 4.3...
So I think it may very well be the case that we'll see more updates, at least 4.3 - unless HTC really doesn't want to survive as a company. But major Android updates (5.x) are out of the picture, that much is obvious and understandable.
(P.S.: When referring to the One S I mean the S4 version - if Qualcomm doesn't provide updates for their S3 processor any more, HTC can't realistically provide them either.)

I feel like the hox was the spiritual successor to the desire, the community surrounding it has a lot of enthusiastic fans that still see the potential in the phone, you never know what could occur?
Whether another update comes out or not I'm never selling this phone, actually so attached to it.
sent from a very happy hox

The only semi official word we have so far is this
Jeff Gordon ‏@urbanstrata 2h
@Libzzor Who says the One X won't get 4.3?
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https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/366803640503107584
HTC is generally known for a very naughty update policy. Look at our phones' little brother, HTC One V. It was released at the same time, but it never got any major update at all.
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HTC deals with flagships very differently to affordable low end products like One V so your comparison doesn't stand, if the device is upper end and sold well they will still give it better support
There've been no HTC Android phones that made it to the 5th major update (first digit in the firmware version number). It is very unlikely that One X could become an exception
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The One X was the first to make it to 4.x so who's to say it won't make it to 5.x, 4.3 is considered as minor / easy over 4.2.2 by HTC so why not
They have never supported a device like they gave to the One X, which shows how much they regard this device (they sold around 15 million of them)
Finally "naughty" stories like Desire HD and One S are to be blamed on suppliers failing to provide updated drivers
With all said and done, you can't blame them if they stop the support either, they have almost met their 18 months commitment

zute333 said:
I feel like the hox was the spiritual successor to the desire, the community surrounding it has a lot of enthusiastic fans that still see the potential in the phone, you never know what could occur?
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Nothing similar at all. However, One X is technically a successor to the Sensation, which community also looked exactly like the HOX community.
UPD: Updated the op-post, adding the information given by the forum members.

Assuming HTC continues to provide updates, what about people's warranties? Wouldn't a manufacturer cut off any non critical updates after most devices have gone off their original warranty period? Its been mostly a full year for the early adopters, has anyone got extended warranty or different policies (say EU and China with their 2-year legal enforcement?)
This of course affects no AOSP stuff since we pretty much gave up our warranties the day we unlocked the boot loader anyway, but we could probably refer to warranty lengths for a flagship device to see how much HTC will squeeze out of it.
There are no One X's on sale right now are they? Like brand new ones, not the secondhand market.

True, fair thought and points. Give you thumb up for this!
I wouldn't demand on a new firmware version number starting with 5.xx for edeavorU. If it does happened, it would be suprise with appreciation..
Here is my views of future updates from the perspective how update will be handles:-
Talking about possibly future 'major' HTC updates for HOX, we should first look onto how they decided to treat Android 4.3 to theirs newer flagships first since the strategy will much likely reflect down to us.
There is still unclear how HTC plan to handle Android 4.3, I mean wether it come with same Sense version or newer. The major overhaul's Sense 5 already extent itself through Android 4.1 and 4.2. Under HTC tradition, most likely they will bring Sense 5.1 / 5 Max (hmm.. learnt from X+'s case) with little polishing. Furthermore, Android 4.3 was known to be has minimal user facing changes.
"Lots of questions re 4.3 release for One. We r wrking hard (needs cert) to release 4.3 across all US, Canada skus by end Sept. DNA as well." --- Jason Mackenzie (@HTC US President)
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Taking the statement into account, obviously HTC has only left some little extra times and reasons to rush out Sense 5.5 nor Sense 6. Unless HTC really want to expense un-necessity major Sense version bump over high public expectance of new Android version.
If you have time do read this: Why Android Updates Are So Slow. Hardware manufacturers is what I wanna to talk on next. Luckly, HTC only uses major ARM processor makers to make phone, in case there are Qualcomm and nVidia. Both of them are also Google nexus partners present on nexus product catalogs. It means they are working closely since Google initiated their work on Android 4.3. In layman's term, there is no extra waiting time for HTC to wait for the arrival of Android 4.3 equivalent kernel sources. However, HTC might still need to wait for other component makers to update their libraries to match and work on new Android. Ironically, from technical standpoint there is reasons why Android 4.3 still named JellyBean. For those component makers they only had to deal with little obstacles because there is much lesser lower level changes on Android. We do know those hardware manufacturers is punctual for HTC One given that HTC One GPE's OTA is only 9 days behind. However, it is not always truth for non-first priority devices like HOX.
So what these all means? Android 4.3 may not impose heavy burden on HTC as many of us thoughts. (because they can actually skip 4.2 on some products too).
If HTC's update plan went smoothly as Jason Mackenzie stated, there will be more likely we might see yet another major firmware version bump. Albiet, we're incapable of getting OpenGL ES 3.0 support...

It seems to be coming closer to EOL buy in my country they still sell HTC One X for 400€ (2 years warranty) while the One costs 490€...

All good things must come to an end. When my HOX turns 2 it will be finding a new home via eBay, it doesn't appear to to be too far away as time flies when your having fun. Great device and still enjoying it, the only issue I will have is what to replace it with...... it has be just as reliable, more powerful and aesthetically pleasing which I think means I'll hold on to it at least 2 months longer whilst deciding.

jimmielin said:
Assuming HTC continues to provide updates, what about people's warranties? Wouldn't a manufacturer cut off any non critical updates after most devices have gone off their original warranty period? Its been mostly a full year for the early adopters, has anyone got extended warranty or different policies (say EU and China with their 2-year legal enforcement?)
This of course affects no AOSP stuff since we pretty much gave up our warranties the day we unlocked the boot loader anyway, but we could probably refer to warranty lengths for a flagship device to see how much HTC will squeeze out of it.
There are no One X's on sale right now are they? Like brand new ones, not the secondhand market.
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Warranty presumes a proper device operation on the full length of the warranty, doesn't have to do anything with the software updates unless it's essential to keep the device in the condition stated in the warranty.

Just bought on eBay a One X 32gb white, for about 310€ in mint conditions (finger crossed) , because I was tired of my (excellent) Galaxy Nexus (18 months old) ... I want something more elegant ...
I'm sure we will see 2/3 months of Sense custom Roms with a lot of optimization based on latest update, then CM based roms for a long time ... At the moment on the market there is nothing so excellent that convinced me to spend the double (or little bit less) of what I spent for the HOX ...
The only thing I would like to see on the HOX soon or later is the Modaco switch like on the HTC One and now ported to the S4 ... Do you think it will be possible?
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furius said:
Just bought on eBay a One X 32gb white, for about 310€ in mint conditions (finger crossed) , because I was tired of my (excellent) Galaxy Nexus (18 months old) ... I want something more elegant ...
I'm sure we will see 2/3 months of Sense custom Roms with a lot of optimization based on latest update, then CM based roms for a long time ... At the moment on the market there is nothing so excellent that convinced me to spend the double (or little bit less) of what I spent for the HOX ...
The only thing I would like to see on the HOX soon or later is the Modaco switch like on the HTC One and now ported to the S4 ... Do you think it will be possible?
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Modaco Switch is made to switch to the OFFICIAL aosp build and connecting to the proper OTA branch.
Obviously it won't come to any other phones besides One and S4 since there's no other phones with the official AOSP firmware.

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Warranty presumes a proper device operation on the full length of the warranty, doesn't have to do anything with the software updates unless it's essential to keep the device in the condition stated in the warranty.
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Yep I know, but would a manufacturer hold onto providing updates if everyone's devices are already "expired" (in warranty sense)? I don't know about business strategy though, whether maintaining a long software update cycle would be better for further marketing and sales (It's certainly positive when it's existent, but what if it was lacking?)
An important issue delaying timely updates is all the testing, if we buy unlocked versions it's the manufacturer, otherwise add carrier to the list... I wouldn't expect a 5.x update (but I've been running stock/CM/Carbon/AOKP since day one) as long as all the drivers and sources are properly supplied...
And just dreaming, if HTC could S-OFF our phones after it decides to stop providing updates it would be so great

Sold the HOX to a mate, with the cash puchased a note 2 for the gf which in return I got her iphone 5. All I can say is android destroys ios! Battery wise iphone kills the HOX. Called my friend to see if he will let me buy it back but no luck....im back on ebay looking for a bargain HOX, I thought id never say this I miss sense.
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