Apps safe to remove after Desire root - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Goals of this thread:
1) List apps that come on stock HTC Desire ROM, that are safe to remove.
2) List apps that should not be removed. (E.g. known to cause instability issues after being removed).
Remarks:
- Please focus on apps on the HTC Desire stock ROM, (Android 2.1 or 2.2 at this moment).
- It assumes you have already rooted your HTC Desire, but do not plan to swap the stock ROM. (Do not comment that it's possible to install a cooked ROM that has removed the bloatware, assume people prefer this route for whatever reason).
- Please do not discuss HOW to root, or which are best tools for removing apps.
Ok, I hope I didn't put anyone off to freely post in this thread!!

This isn't a development issue, and thus, should be posted in the General forum.
Added to this, there are already lists out there.

I asked teh same quetion 3 days ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8216807#post8216807

acolwill said:
This isn't a development issue, and thus, should be posted in the General forum.
Added to this, there are already lists out there.
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Acolwill,
The thread intends to tackle getting to a personalized custom ROM, but not taking someone's cooked ROM.
Approach: Starting with stock 2.2 Froyo, uninstalling apps and services until you have the ROM you want, sans bloatware, tailored to your preferences.
Bloatware is marked as a system app. In order to uninstall system apps you need to root the Desire, and use a tool that is capable of removing any app or service (such as Titanium Backup for example). Therefore it is crucial to make a distinction which apps and services are safe to remove, and which are not.
It is development in the sense that you are cooking your own ROM, 'live' on your phone. Sort of..
Please be helpful and point to the lists you found.
I browsed and searched for some time, but what is there is not for the Desire, and you'd have to weed through long lists of apps that are not installed on our device. Also those lists are confusing as people simply list that they took an app off, but not what the impact was.
Anyway, let's see, if no reactions then I may be the only one in need of the list, .

Now where are those links !!!
searching and searching for save to remove apps on stock desire......
without any luck sofar...

It's part of the leedroid wiki but should apply to every sense rom.
http://leedroid.protogenlabs.com/wiki/guidelines-for-safe-removal-of-included-apps-apks

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NEED Help/Advice

I have a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2. I would like to upgrade this phone to use one of the good operating systems from on these forums and would like to add Android to my phone. However, I have no idea what to do or where to get the correct files that are working.
If someone could help me with what I must do to achieve what I am trying to get done I would appreciate it. I need both instructions and files.
Scott Gleaton
For windows http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
For Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
And my other advice is to read everything you can
Links in the post above tell you most of what you need to know.
You will need to HardSPL before you can flash a new ROM. This is mentioned and linked in the "Flashing for Noobs" thread linked above. But here it is also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
I also recommend running Task29 after you HardSPL and before flashing any ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
Not fully mandatory, but Task29 formats the phones whole memory, so there is no chance of fragments of the old ROM to mess up the new one.
What ROM is best depend on the individual user. Each cook includes different apps, looks and functionality in their ROMs. So look thru the different ROMs, and pick on that suits you. If you are still at a loss, I personally like the Energy ROM. This guys is very reputable for stable, fast, and aesthetic ROMs. I doubt you would be disappointed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
Just read all the instructions carefully before you flash, plus the FAQs on each page, and (at least) the last couple pages of the threads. This will often clue you in to the common issues some people have, and how to solve them.
Project Android for the TP2 is not a full ROM, but is nice because you install on your MicroSD card and boot it from Windows Mobile. WM gets unloaded, and Android is loaded. To get back to WM, you just soft reset. Its not perfect, there are still plenty of bugs (no sound, no Bluetooth, some apps crash or lag). But its pretty functional, and lets you mess around and explore Android, check out the app store and play some of the games, etc. Highly recommended to try it out, if you are curious about Android (and who isn't?).

[Q] Adding Shortcuts on Home Page

Dear all,
I have HTC TP2 device, and I tried to add shortcuts on the home page, when I got the steps from the HTC site, I could not apply them, can anybody help me in this?
- I could not find the '+' button.
- When I press and hold on an icon in the start menu, I can find only one command in the popup menu (Move to top).
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From HTC site:
Personalizing Your Home Screen: Shortcuts
Placing shortcuts on your Home screen gives you quick access to your favorite programs, contacts you most frequently communicate with, and other information.
Adding a shortcut
Press HOME and then tap the + button. You can also press and hold an empty area on the Home screen.
When the Add to Home options menu opens, tap Shortcut.
Select the type of shortcut to add to the Home screen. You can create a shortcut to a Bookmark, Gmail label, your mail inbox, music playlist, a contact, or a program.
To quickly add an application shortcut that is on the All programs screen to the Home screen, press and hold an application icon. When the phone vibrates, drag the icon to an empty area on the Home screen, and then release it.
This can only be done if you are running Sense 2.5. Most TP2/Tilt2 phones came with TouchFlo 3D or an earlier version of Sense. These have a Programs page where you can choose which program icons you want to appear, but they won't be on the Home page.
Thanks a lot for you reply. May you please tell me what is the difference between Sense and TouchFlo, are they two different programs, which is better and if those programs are supported from HTC or not. In other words, can I go to an HTC shop in my country to install it for me or it is downloadable from their site?
mrtarrouk said:
Thanks a lot for you reply. May you please tell me what is the difference between Sense and TouchFlo, are they two different programs, which is better and if those programs are supported from HTC or not. In other words, can I go to an HTC shop in my country to install it for me or it is downloadable from their site?
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You can get in touch with your carrier to see if an upgrade is warranted for your device. Only a couple of carriers got the Sense "upgrade." It is considerably slower than TF3D if you go through their options. If you really want to experience Sense the way it should be, try one of the many custom ROMs on this site.
Thanks a lot. Can you refer me to one of the good ROMs here in the forum.
What country, carrier are you on?
Couple reason I ask this. Firstly, some carriers released an official ROM update to Sense 2.5.
Also, custom ROMs on this website are limited to GSM versions of the TP2, although there is CDMA subforum, with links to ROMs for CDMA devices.
redpoint73 said:
What country, carrier are you on?
Couple reason I ask this. Firstly, some carriers released an official ROM update to Sense 2.5.
Also, custom ROMs on this website are limited to GSM versions of the TP2, although there is CDMA subforum, with links to ROMs for CDMA devices.
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Even though some carriers released updates to Sense from TF3D, I don't think it's a good idea to use them. I have yet to see a single one that was stable enough for continued use. They are generally resource intensive. Chefs of custom ROMs take the device's hardware into consideration unlike the carriers who only seem to want to load it with their own software.
redpoint73 said:
What country, carrier are you on?
Couple reason I ask this. Firstly, some carriers released an official ROM update to Sense 2.5.
Also, custom ROMs on this website are limited to GSM versions of the TP2, although there is CDMA subforum, with links to ROMs for CDMA devices.
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Here are the info and other info that might help:
Country: Egypt
Carrier: Vodafone
ROM Version: 1.86.415.2 (67102) WWE
ROM Date: 12/28/09
Radio Version: 4.49.25.17
Protocol Version: 61.44tc.25.32U
ExtPkg Version: 1.48.415.70
redpoint73 said:
What country, carrier are you on?
Couple reason I ask this. Firstly, some carriers released an official ROM update to Sense 2.5.
Also, custom ROMs on this website are limited to GSM versions of the TP2, although there is CDMA subforum, with links to ROMs for CDMA devices.
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cajunflavoredbob said:
Even though some carriers released updates to Sense from TF3D, I don't think it's a good idea to use them. I have yet to see a single one that was stable enough for continued use. They are generally resource intensive. Chefs of custom ROMs take the device's hardware into consideration unlike the carriers who only seem to want to load it with their own software.
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Thanks a lot for you both. Here are the info and other info that might help:
Country: Egypt
Carrier: Vodafone
ROM Version: 1.86.415.2 (67102) WWE
ROM Date: 12/28/09
Radio Version: 4.49.25.17
Protocol Version: 61.44tc.25.32U
ExtPkg Version: 1.48.415.70
cajunflavoredbob said:
Even though some carriers released updates to Sense from TF3D, I don't think it's a good idea to use them. I have yet to see a single one that was stable enough for continued use. They are generally resource intensive. Chefs of custom ROMs take the device's hardware into consideration unlike the carriers who only seem to want to load it with their own software.
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Some people seemed pleased with the latest ATT ROM with Sense 2.5. I never flashed it, so I can't personally comment. And the shipped ROM was so horrible, I have trouble believing it myself. Plus, you get the usual ATT bloat. But I mentioned the possibility of an official ROM update, only because many people are scared of flashing a custom ROM.
But I completely agree with you that a custom ROM is probably the way to go.
To the OP, poking around on the internet, I see that Vodafone in Egypt is GSM, so you can use the custom ROMs on this website.
redpoint73 said:
Some people seemed pleased with the latest ATT ROM with Sense 2.5. I never flashed it, so I can't personally comment. And the shipped ROM was so horrible, I have trouble believing it myself. Plus, you get the usual ATT bloat. But I mentioned the possibility of an official ROM update, only because many people are scared of flashing a custom ROM.
But I completely agree with you that a custom ROM is probably the way to go.
To the OP, poking around on the internet, I see that Vodafone in Egypt is GSM, so you can use the custom ROMs on this website.
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Thanks a lot. Yes Vodafone Egypt is a GSM operator. Can you tell me whether I can backup my original ROM before I flash a cooked one (in case I needed it) ... And also please refer me to the best cooked ROM here and the steps to flash/install it on my device.
Your reply is highly appreciated.
All you need to flash a custom ROM is on the ROM Development subforum for the TP2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
The resources pinned to the top of the subforum are extremely helpful, and indispensable.
One of them is an excellent step-by-step guide for flashing a custom ROM, written for beginners:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
As indicated in the guide, you will need to HardSPL the phone. This unlocks SPL (secondary program loader), which is normally locked so you can only flash "official" ROMs from your carrier. HardSPL is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
Also, optional, but highly recommended (I do it before EVERY new ROM flash) is running Task29. This formats the ROM area of the memory, and completely wipes it, so no old fragment of previous ROM linger to screw up the new ROM. It only takes a couple minutes to perform, and can possibly save you the headache of some random bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
Flashing is really not hard. Just read as much as you can on the threads I linked, and follow the instructions carefully. The threads are really long, and you don't have to read the whole thing, but read as much as you have patience for. Any question or issue you can possibly have about the process has probably been encountered by someone else already, and a solution/answer already posted. The more you know before you start, the less you will panic when something doesn't go exactly as you expected.
Keep in mind that flashing a custom ROM will void any warranty you may still have. Although, people generally have luck re-flashing the stock ROM, and re-locking SPL before returning for warranty service, so the repair people actually have no idea the ROM was ever modified. Also, keep in mind that there is a slight possibility of "bricking" or disabling your phone. But follow the instructions and be careful, and it won't happen. Main things to remember, is never mess with the phone (power off, unplug) while its flashing, make sure you have at least 50% battery at each step, and flash the correct software (flashing a CDMA ROM to a GSM phone, or ROM for a completely different phone are highly probably ways to brick it). But normally, it is very safe. People on here have flashed custom ROMs onto their phone dozens, maybe even hundreds of times, without ever bricking their phones.
There is no correct answer to the question "what is the best ROM". Its like asking "what clothes are best to wear", there is no correct answer, it depends on your personal tastes and needs. The best ROM for you depends on how much you want looks and functions over speed and stability, what software you want packed-in, or if you want a minimum of built-in software (a "lightweight" ROM), and to install your desired software yourself. Look through the various ROMs to see the features of each one, look at replies from users, which thread are most popular, and pick for yourself. If you still need some suggestions, Energy, simplicity, Jackos, and Valkyrie are popular. But it would be an injustice to other chefs to suggest that other ROMs are not just as great. If you scan through the ROM Development subforum, you will see some threads along the lines of "what ROM is best, fastest, etc.", and you can look at those for more suggestions/opinions.
Also be sure to read through the first several posts on the ROM thread you pick to flash, as there are often specific instructions and FAQs for that ROM posted by the chef.
You don't need to backup your old ROM. If you need to return to the stock ROM for some reason, just go to shipped-roms.com and download it:
http://shipped-roms.com/
You will however, lose your personal data (contacts, texts, email) when you flash the ROM. There are a bunch of ways to back these up. Microsoft My Phone, synching to your PC on Outlook, or if you are a Gmail person, using Google Synch, are all popular methods.
redpoint73 said:
All you need to flash a custom ROM is on the ROM Development subforum for the TP2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
The resources pinned to the top of the subforum are extremely helpful, and indispensable.
One of them is an excellent step-by-step guide for flashing a custom ROM, written for beginners:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
As indicated in the guide, you will need to HardSPL the phone. This unlocks SPL (secondary program loader), which is normally locked so you can only flash "official" ROMs from your carrier. HardSPL is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
Also, optional, but highly recommended (I do it before EVERY new ROM flash) is running Task29. This formats the ROM area of the memory, and completely wipes it, so no old fragment of previous ROM linger to screw up the new ROM. It only takes a couple minutes to perform, and can possibly save you the headache of some random bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
Flashing is really not hard. Just read as much as you can on the threads I linked, and follow the instructions carefully. The threads are really long, and you don't have to read the whole thing, but read as much as you have patience for. Any question or issue you can possibly have about the process has probably been encountered by someone else already, and a solution/answer already posted. The more you know before you start, the less you will panic when something doesn't go exactly as you expected.
Keep in mind that flashing a custom ROM will void any warranty you may still have. Although, people generally have luck re-flashing the stock ROM, and re-locking SPL before returning for warranty service, so the repair people actually have no idea the ROM was ever modified. Also, keep in mind that there is a slight possibility of "bricking" or disabling your phone. But follow the instructions and be careful, and it won't happen. Main things to remember, is never mess with the phone (power off, unplug) while its flashing, make sure you have at least 50% battery at each step, and flash the correct software (flashing a CDMA ROM to a GSM phone, or ROM for a completely different phone are highly probably ways to brick it). But normally, it is very safe. People on here have flashed custom ROMs onto their phone dozens, maybe even hundreds of times, without ever bricking their phones.
There is no correct answer to the question "what is the best ROM". Its like asking "what clothes are best to wear", there is no correct answer, it depends on your personal tastes and needs. The best ROM for you depends on how much you want looks and functions over speed and stability, what software you want packed-in, or if you want a minimum of built-in software (a "lightweight" ROM), and to install your desired software yourself. Look through the various ROMs to see the features of each one, look at replies from users, which thread are most popular, and pick for yourself. If you still need some suggestions, Energy, simplicity, Jackos, and Valkyrie are popular. But it would be an injustice to other chefs to suggest that other ROMs are not just as great. If you scan through the ROM Development subforum, you will see some threads along the lines of "what ROM is best, fastest, etc.", and you can look at those for more suggestions/opinions.
Also be sure to read through the first several posts on the ROM thread you pick to flash, as there are often specific instructions and FAQs for that ROM posted by the chef.
You don't need to backup your old ROM. If you need to return to the stock ROM for some reason, just go to shipped-roms.com and download it:
http://shipped-roms.com/
You will however, lose your personal data (contacts, texts, email) when you flash the ROM. There are a bunch of ways to back these up. Microsoft My Phone, synching to your PC on Outlook, or if you are a Gmail person, using Google Synch, are all popular methods.
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Dear redpoint73,
Really thanks a million, you unleashed a lot of information to me with your very descriptive answer . As I'm new to the Windows phones world, I was confused with its terminologies like chief, ROM, cooking, flashing ... etc etc. But now it is very much easier than ever ... Thank you.

[Q] New Defy owner. Where do I start ?

Hi all, as you can see I've been a member here for a good while and dipped in and out as and when I've owned any devices featured here.
I have a brand new, UK unbranded, sim free and factory fresh Defy arriving tomorrow and have read with interest the various posts here, including the WIKI but I've got a bit dizzy trying to work out what's new/current/most stable/best.
I'm very happy modding and flashing custom roms and have done since the XDA1.
Could anyone please fill me in with the essential tools I need, such as the clockwork recovery version I should be installing and also the best/most recent/most stable rom - Android 2.2 preferred. Also what can I use to overclock and any other system mods that people consider essential also gratefully received.
If there's a n00b how to somewhere and I've missed it, I apologise, but it's hard to figure out what's out of date and what isn't.
Once I'm up to speed on this particular device, I'll chip in where I can.
many thanks,
malty
I'm in no means a developer and unworthy of replying...but I'll try! In the dev section, there is a 'FAQ/Guides/Tutorials' section that is pretty up to date with links to just about everything needed.
Custom Recovery: I've used both tenfar's recovery and the clockworkmod recovery 2010-12-18 version that I believe is the most updated and works well. I like the latter version best so far.
Overclocking: Only one I've used is setvsel and liking it.
Root: I think Z4 root doesn't work on 2.2 and above, so you'll have to root with special version superoneclick.
Backing up applications: Good ol Titanium Backup.
As for custom roms, I'm sure many have preferrences but from what I've gathered, the FIN and Orange deblur are working great (I have two phones, ones on stock tmous froyo, the other is 2.1 UK2.34 deblur...loving the deblur!). Check out Pays, JBoogie, and Higgsy's ROMs in dev section. Also, in the dev section you'll see the sbf file folder at top of forum to flash away with.
Again, I'm pretty much a noob so I probably missed a bunch of stuff...but this should get you started for now

[Q] Android Market App in MIUI-AU and MIUI-XJ

Hi folks,
I am currently running MIUI-XJ D2EXT X-PART 1.9.23 ROM but having problems finding a couple of apps in the Android Market app on the phone. I could find them on market.android.com, and on Android Market apps in other ROMs, including MIUI-AU ROM. Two of such apps are: TradeDroid Pro, and Quick Quake Viewer. I live in Christchurch, New Zealand, a city still rocked regularly by aftershocks, hence the latter app I was told:
Miui au uses different market than the default installed here. Josh updates that or manage changes, even market default settings. You can grab those and use in this rom.
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I am not knowledgable enough to know what exactly is different, what I should grab, and how to install them. Perhaps if someone can give me a hint and point me in the right direction I can look into it further. Pointing me to where the stuff is would be even more helpful
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Dany.
As a part of my free services, I offer you a report of wrongly created thread.
No need to thank me.
Should I be posting this question on the Desire Apps and Themes forum?
"Desire Android Development"...
The clues in the title. Try the Q&A thread.
danyw said:
Should I be posting this question on the Desire Apps and Themes forum?
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There are 5 sub-forums within the HTC Desire forum:
-General
-Questions & Answers
-Accessories
-Development
-Themes and Apps.
What do you think, which is the best one to ask questions?
Don't ask him such difficult questions, his brain might explode in the process of resolving it.
Terepin said:
Don't ask him such difficult questions, his brain might explode in the process of resolving it.
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Yeah... you definitely don't want that, especially since I won't be around to clean up afterwards...
danyw said:
Hi folks,
I am currently running MIUI-XJ D2EXT X-PART 1.9.23 ROM but having problems finding a couple of apps in the Android Market app on the phone. I could find them on market.android.com, and on Android Market apps in other ROMs, including MIUI-AU ROM. Two of such apps are: TradeDroid Pro, and Quick Quake Viewer. I live in Christchurch, New Zealand, a city still rocked regularly by aftershocks, hence the latter app I was told:
I am not knowledgable enough to know what exactly is different, what I should grab, and how to install them. Perhaps if someone can give me a hint and point me in the right direction I can look into it further. Pointing me to where the stuff is would be even more helpful
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Dany.
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If the Dev had changed the market app then it might be wise to install a vanilla market, ie the link in my description. Although if it had been changed then it could mean that the changed market only works on that ROM. Alternatively you could get an app called market enabler to help you out a bit. Can't you install apps from the website? Would be advisable to backup the current market app that you have.
And yes, wrong section. Please move mods, ooh wait, it will take a week fire that to happen.
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Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums and Read THIS
Moving to Q&A
Meaple said:
If the Dev had changed the market app then it might be wise to install a vanilla market, ie the link in my description. Although if it had been changed then it could mean that the changed market only works on that ROM. Alternatively you could get an app called market enabler to help you out a bit. Can't you install apps from the website? Would be advisable to backup the current market app that you have.
And yes, wrong section. Please move mods, ooh wait, it will take a week fire that to happen.
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Well, it seems I have posted in the wrong forum twice! Unbelievable...
I already tried Market Enabler but that didn't help. My problem is not installing apps from the market, but finding them there in the first place. The two examples I mentioned in my original post cannot be located under the MIUI-XJ ROM, but I can find them everywhere else, i.e. under MIUI-AU, other Sense ROMs, and the android.market.com. I haven't tried AOSP ROMs so far, or CM one.
I have been told that MIUI-AU ROM uses a different Market from MIUI-XJ. I am trying to ascertain what bits are exactly different, and where I can get the one used by MIUI-AU or other Sense ROMs.
I will try the one in your sig and see how that goes. Thanks for the suggestion.
Meaple said:
If the Dev had changed the market app then it might be wise to install a vanilla market, ie the link in my description. Although if it had been changed then it could mean that the changed market only works on that ROM. Alternatively you could get an app called market enabler to help you out a bit. Can't you install apps from the website? Would be advisable to backup the current market app that you have.
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Ok, I have copied the Market_3.1.5.apk file from your sig link to my sdcard, and installed it from there. Unfortunately it didn't help though - I still couldn't find the apps I mentioned earlier.
Am I correct in assuming the Market app is called Vending.apk in the /system/app folder? If so, can I just grab the one from MIUI-AU and copy it over the one I have in MIUI-XJ?
Cheers,
D.

[Q] Metro PCS Factory APP / Bloatware / BS - Removal How-to???

I've searched the Wildfire S threads under both General and Dev, cannot find a guide or any basic tips on how to uninstall, delete, or remove these apps.
This looks similar, but with different goals, altogether.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142529
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268864
oh... and also...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334718
This particular device has numerous variants that I've seen.
My wife's WildfireS is MarvelC Android V:2.3.4 HTC Sense 2.1... already s-off w/ root. 16Gb sd (Partitioned with ClockworkRec on my MyTouch4g Cyanogenmod 7.1.0)
Essentially, I would like to keep the existing ROM, Sense, and current state... MINUS bogus pre-installed apps. They're utter garbage! A complete waste of space and resources on a device that is good for an introduction into touchscreens (cough *my wife* cough.)
Thanks folks! Any help would be appreciated!
I'll write you a debloating guide if you can help me
I need someone that has a MetroPCS nandroid [shortly after root would be ideal] before any debloating attempts. There are other users that have semi-bricked flashing incompatible roms. If you meet the above criteria or know someone that does, pm me... Need to extract two files; so, I can make a flashable stock fot MetroPCS users. I will then write you a comprehensive debloating guide [for all three cdma carriers even] whad'ya say?
Rob
Well, I'll still write a debloating plan.

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