Hi all,
Firstly, I'm new to winmob devices but as a developer I wanted to get my hands on one and start building some apps. I bought an unlocked TP2 and so far I'm really impressed and happy with it.
Now, I've searched the forums and can't find anything that completely addresses a question I have about Data Connection. It's a bit n00b but as I said I'm new to this I've never had a phone that could connect to the internet before.
I have a data plan with my provider, but when I'm at home I have the phone on the wifi. Sometimes I have it on the laptop at work or home (via USB cable).
What I don't quite understand yet is what is the priority for data connection? e.g. if connected via USB it will try to use the internet connection of the pc? if connected via wifi it will use that as preference? When the phone isn't connected to either, obviously it will start eating data from my plan, but I'm not clear on how the phone uses the internet etc. when on wifi or via the USB cable. I assume there's some kind of "preference" order or setting.
Can someone please enlighten me?
Thankyou for your time!
I've not seen any setting, but I believe it is:
USB ActiveSync (First priority)
Wifi
3G data connection
GPRS data connection (Last)
This is my experience anyway - certainly Wifi should be higher priority than any cellular/mobile connection. And I think I noticed that my web browsing was going via USB cable instead of Wifi when that was plugged in.
I agree with the above post, however I have noticed that If I run an app (lets say the YouTube app) with no active wireless or activesync connection it will use 3G or GPRS depending on available service, however If I then turn on Wireless I have to restart the app, it doesn't seen to automaticaly switch over to the new wireless connection which is a shame.
Tom
Hi,
Since i've had the One X i've had nothing but problems with tethering. I've tried wifi, bluetooth and USB. All seem to suffer from the same problem.
The problem being that the phone will have a working mobile internet connection (I can use the phone to talk to the internet without problem) but my netbook cannot talk to the internet. The problem is definitely not with my netbook or the connectivity between the phone and the netbook as I can ping the phones IP address just fine.
It's almost like when tether is enabled some sort of forwarding or bridging between wifi/bluetooth/usb and mobile internet should be enabled but isn't being.
Then, totally randomly, it will just start working fine.
Sometimes disconnecting mobile internet and reconnecting fixes it. Sometimes enabling airplane mode and then disabling it fixes it. But most of the time I literally have to just wait until the phone decides to start forwarding my packcets to the internet.
I travel by train to/from work and used to tether my HTC Desire using wifi or usb. It would generally be useable for the whole journey except when I lost signal entirely or when the phone switched between Orange and T-Mobile whilst I was in the middle of something.
I guess my main questions are:
Is anyone else having this problem?
Can anyone think of a way I can try to debug what's happening?
Does anyone have a possible solution?
Thanks
ashak said:
Hi,
Since i've had the One X i've had nothing but problems with tethering. I've tried wifi, bluetooth and USB. All seem to suffer from the same problem.
The problem being that the phone will have a working mobile internet connection (I can use the phone to talk to the internet without problem) but my netbook cannot talk to the internet. The problem is definitely not with my netbook or the connectivity between the phone and the netbook as I can ping the phones IP address just fine.
It's almost like when tether is enabled some sort of forwarding or bridging between wifi/bluetooth/usb and mobile internet should be enabled but isn't being.
Then, totally randomly, it will just start working fine.
Sometimes disconnecting mobile internet and reconnecting fixes it. Sometimes enabling airplane mode and then disabling it fixes it. But most of the time I literally have to just wait until the phone decides to start forwarding my packcets to the internet.
I travel by train to/from work and used to tether my HTC Desire using wifi or usb. It would generally be useable for the whole journey except when I lost signal entirely or when the phone switched between Orange and T-Mobile whilst I was in the middle of something.
I guess my main questions are:
Is anyone else having this problem?
Can anyone think of a way I can try to debug what's happening?
Does anyone have a possible solution?
Thanks
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Try resetting your APN setting back to default. This should fix the issue. You may have to do this everytime at OTA update is applied.
I just got a Kindle Fire, I've got it on the stock ROM with root. So far it's been great, but the lack of storage space is what's concerning me. I'd love to use it on a plane etc to watch moves, but there's not enough space on the thing to store any kind of selection.
Without using a laptop and without access to the internet or a network in general, I'd like to be able to transfer files from external storage of some kind. I figured the best choice would be to transfer files wirelessly from an android phone. I'm able to set up a wifi hotspot from my phone using the built-in function of the OS, and use File Expert's "WiFi File Receiver" function to transfer files from the Kindle to the phone, but not the other way around. Apparently that's by design, so I either need a app for hosting a hotspot on the kindle, or I need a different method entirely.
Any thoughts?
as u r still on the stock ROM, have u tried using Amazon's online streaming service ??
Yeah I've tried it but it's useless if I don't have internet access, such as while on a plane, which is where the majority of my video viewing on the kindle will be, or if I'm trying to keep my data use on my phone down elsewhere. Being handcuffed to the internet on this thing kind of sucks.
If you decide to go with a custom rom built on the laters version of hashcodes kernel (3.0) you can use a USBOTG connection (USB On the GO) and a USB flash drive etc.
The major problem with this is that you'd require a power source to power the USB as the kindle wont' be able to power anything higher than 8GB
Unless you change from the stock ROM to a later kernel to enable OTG you're stuck; the fire was designed as an internet device after all. I wish there was a way to link the fire with an Android phone for storage via cable but there apparently isn't. I carry my videos etc n a 32 GB thumb drive and use the following arrangement:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25877151&postcount=41
Yeah I don't want to lose the stock ROM yet, I do like a lot of what Amazon offers for the device, I just don't want to limit myself.
However, I was able to get it to work! I used the stock wifi hotspot feature of my phone running ICS, and ran Wifi File Explorer on the phone. Wifi file explorer is basically a server that allows file transfers through a web browser on the local network. I then go to the phone's ip address on the Kindle's browser and download my files.
Not the simplest solution, but it will work in a pinch. It would be nice if there was a client app for Wifi File Explorer to run on the Kindle to make it a little cleaner, less browser window scrolling and zooming.
If you are going to be transferring large files (like movies) then I suggest you go with the Setup that Lotek posted. That is going to transfer files way faster than over wifi.
But that requires a new ROM though doesn't it? I just tested it with a 400 MB mp4 file and it took 4 minutes. It would be great if I could use USB and transfer faster, but 4 minutes is at least faster than I expected with that app.
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Yeah I don't want to lose the stock ROM yet, I do like a lot of what Amazon offers for the device, I just don't want to limit myself.
However, I was able to get it to work! I used the stock wifi hotspot feature of my phone running ICS, and ran Wifi File Explorer on the phone. Wifi file explorer is basically a server that allows file transfers through a web browser on the local network. I then go to the phone's ip address on the Kindle's browser and download my files.
Not the simplest solution, but it will work in a pinch. It would be nice if there was a client app for Wifi File Explorer to run on the Kindle to make it a little cleaner, less browser window scrolling and zooming.
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Would that situation actually work on a plane (using your initial example) where you're generally not supposed to turn the WiFi on (obviously you could do it before the flight, but not during)?
I don't understand airplane rules. Many plane trips I take lately actually offer internet service over wifi for $5, so I don't see how having wifi on for a few minutes could cause any problems. On the other hand, I just realized... Is there even a way to have wifi on without having the cellular radio on? I wonder what happens when I try to host a hotspot in airplane mode.
MrAngles2 said:
I don't understand airplane rules. Many plane trips I take lately actually offer internet service over wifi for $5, so I don't see how having wifi on for a few minutes could cause any problems. On the other hand, I just realized... Is there even a way to have wifi on without having the cellular radio on? I wonder what happens when I try to host a hotspot in airplane mode.
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I think you can put airplane mode on and then turn WiFi on, which will leave everything else (GPS, cell data, etc) off.
Rules for planes may be changing too. I haven't flown in a while, so I could easily just be out of touch. I know they used to want you to turn off wireless and phone data, but that could be different now.
They do tell you to turn off ALL electronic devices, including devices that have no radio, until after you are in the air and leveled off, but after that they say you may now use "approved" electronic devices, and they sometimes mention making sure they are in airplane mode. I doubt if any of it makes any difference once you're up in the air, they just want to be in control of it.
Turning on the wifi hotspot on my phone automatically turns off airplane mode and turns the cell radio back on. Hm.
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Turning on the wifi hotspot on my phone automatically turns off airplane mode and turns the cell radio back on. Hm.
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Yeah, same for me, sorry. You can turn WiFi on with airplane mode, but not WiFi hotspot. Maybe there's an app you can use as long as WiFi is on? Something like: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5nb29nbGVjb2RlLmFuZHJvaWQud2lmaS50ZXRoZXIiXQ..
My phone's not rooted and I don't know how to root it yet (Samsung galaxy S II I777 with leaked ICS ROM), so I guess I can't use that one, I use FoxFi for normal hotspot use for my Kindle, but if there's no signal it won't even turn the hotspot on. I guess I'll go through the gamut of hotspot apps and see if something will work.
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Turning on the wifi hotspot on my phone automatically turns off airplane mode and turns the cell radio back on. Hm.
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That's because wifi hotspot uses your cellular connection to provide wifi for other devices. Of course it's going to turn on your cell radio.
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Well it doesn't need a cellular connection to provide a hotspot, I have my Kindle connected to my phone via wifi right now but I have no cell signal whatsoever. Obviously most people use this function to share a internet connection, but a cell connection is not required, kind of like having a local network in your home run by a router without an internet connection.
FoxFi won't even work at all while in airplane mode, or when a cell signal isn't available for that matter, it requires an internet connection to work. ICS' stock hotspot function doesn't need an internet connection, but it still turns the cell radio on automatically.
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Well it doesn't need a cellular connection to provide a hotspot, I have my Kindle connected to my phone via wifi right now but I have no cell signal whatsoever. Obviously most people use this function to share a internet connection, but a cell connection is not required, kind of like having a local network in your home run by a router without an internet connection.
FoxFi won't even work at all while in airplane mode, or when a cell signal isn't available for that matter, it requires an internet connection to work. ICS' stock hotspot function doesn't need an internet connection, but it still turns the cell radio on automatically.
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Why would you connect to your phone through wifi when the kindle can already connect to wifi by itself?
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veeman said:
Why would you connect to your phone through wifi when the kindle can already connect to wifi by itself?
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To allow the kindle to pull files from the phone. Remember, the situation we're talking about here is being on a plane, where you're unlikely to have internet.
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Yeah sorry, maybe I didn't title the thread clearly enough, but the goal here is to connect the two devices and transfer files without having access to any additional network infrastructure such as a wifi hotspot or 3g/4g service.
You'd think that someone would have created a program that would allow direct transfer of files over a private wifi connection, but it seems that all file transfer apps, like Hoccer or Bump actually send files over the internet through a server and back to the receiving device.
Hi all I'm hoping you can help me.
I have the R800a model of the Xperia Play, running 2.3.4, stock standard and not rooted.
I'm experiencing some very strange behaviour when I turn on wifi hotspot tethering on my phone. When I do, it seems some 3G functionality in the phone is lost. I can still browse the web in Dolphin Browser, but TuneIn radio stops working completely, saying there is no connection. As soon as I turn wifi hotspot off, it picks up the connection again, but if I turn it back on...bang, drops out.
For the record, devices connected to the hotspot, such as my Nexus 7, can access all online functions, including TuneIn radio. It's only the phone itself that seems to lose this functionality.
It seems unlikely there is a bug in TuneIn radio, because I've had a friend verify that it works on his HTC phone when wifi hotspot is on. I haven't verified if it's happening within any other apps but it does look like the inbuilt wifi hotspot functions in this phone are blocking some 3G connectivity while active.
This one is stumping me. It's quite annoying me because I enjoy listening to the radio on the train, but I can't do it on my phone if I'm browsing the web on my Nexus 7.
Does anyone have any clue about what's going on here?
So I've found it's not just wifi hospot tethering, but tethering in general, as USB tethering does the same thing.
So I've gotten around this by setting up Bluetooth tethering instead, which took a bit of fiddling but seems to work much better.
I have a feeling Telstra's software was probably blocking some functionality while tethering via USB or WiFi.