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Some questions about Desire

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I just bought Desire. The seller said it was AMOLED version but I think it's SLCD as there seems to have light at the edge and on the box doesn't say anything about AMOLED. Doesn't matter, it is not important.
But, hope someone can help me with these:
1- This unit is bought in Malaysia under original SiS warranty. I know rooting it will void the warranty, what I want to know is can I unroot the phone to its original condition later before I send it for warranty? If yes then where can I read the guide to do this and the method?
2- As I planning to root the phone, does AMOLED or SLCD makes a difference?
3- What is the preferred memory card capacity and speed? I mean, most people said 8gb/16gb class 10 is good but is it necesssary?
Thank you

2- yes! People bricked their phone due to having and slcd version! Check your hboot turn the phone off. Once everything is off press and hold volume down and tap power... wait youll see a menu 2nd line should say. Hboot something like 0.80 etc. Theres some useful threads in the dev section
Cant renenber the number) for me it never made a differance.. class 4 8gb was good enough for me never had to wait fot it load or anything
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

HBOOT/SLCD is irrelevent as once unrEVOked 3.2.x has been released you can root it with one program...as for going back to stock/unroot yo'll need to see if there's an RUU file of the ROM your Desire comes with.
To check what you're using at the moment (or when the phone arrives) go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post the information here. We can then advise

Firmware version:
2.1-update1 (soon to be Froyo )
Baseband version:
32.41.00.32U_4.08.00.09
Kernel version:
2.6.29-b7e82785
[email protected] #1
Build number:
1.19.707.7 CL171460 release-keys
Software number:
1.19.707.7
Browser version:
Webkit 3.1
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BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.83.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.08.00.09
Jun 10 2010, 12:12:05
Thanks for the help guys

Right, it seems you've got the Asian ROM, and there's a FroYo ROM available...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
That should work (if it asks for logins, username/password is shipped)

EddyOS said:
Right, it seems you've got the Asian ROM, and there's a FroYo ROM available...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
That should work (if it asks for logins, username/password is shipped)
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Thanks for the link. Am I just need to flash this ROM or should I follow the step as stated in the wiki?
So, before I flash my phone, just want to be sure again, how can I save a backup of my current ROM or where can I find a stock ROM in case I needed it later?
I still have 2 years warranty, so my understanding is that if I ever want to claim my warranty, I need to unroot the phone back to stock ROM before sending it over. Correct?
So, rooting the phone is not a problem for warranty right?
Thanks.

No the one Eddy is linking is the original rom. Just the froyo(2.2) version.
If you want to root you should look for a topic on it in the development section.
Btw. I believe the 0.83 hboot means you have got slcd screen please read on for faq about rooting slcd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551&highlight=lcd

mortenmhp said:
No the one Eddy is linking is the original rom. Just the froyo(2.2) version.
If you want to root you should look for a topic on it in the development section.
Btw. I believe the 0.83 hboot means you have got slcd screen please read on for faq about rooting slcd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551&highlight=lcd
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Thanks. I have the guide bookmarked earlier and have read it through
I do have my preferred ROM for rooting. But, just want to be confirm that I can still unroot my phone after rooting. right?

One more thing, can someone point me where I can find stock ROM 2.1 Eclair SEA?
Thanks.

I'm gonna root my phone now BUT....

hi guys, as mentioned i am interested in rooting my desire.... below are some details of my desire and questions
- i bought a 2nd hand desire ( i suspect its rooted before *forgot to check* cos it has the superuser icon
- its running the bravo PVT4 S-on currently. Hboot 0.93.0001 Aug 12 2010
- current version: Froyo WWE 2.13.707.2 (suspected the user has applied OTA update) release 274424, baseband version 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
-------heres comes my question------
rooting should be simple (from what i read using unrevoked)
i will be using unrevoked and creating a goldcard just incase...i will read the rest up.
1) how to remove the superuser icon when i unroot?
2) considering this has the OTA update can i use the official RUU and unroot without issues?
3) will my apps be there after i root?
4) how abt if i restore using rom manager wif the backup i create once after i root, will the apps be there?
PS i am totally new to android and its my first android phone and i dun wanna brick it....i also believe there are alot of nice people here as i have been here since the Touch HD days

1 & 2. You can only unroot by flashing the stock RUU, and I'm pretty sure the one you're on doesn't exist. You can try the .1 RUU on Shipped-ROMs but don't know if it'll work
3. Yes
4. Yes

EddyOS said:
1 & 2. You can only unroot by flashing the stock RUU, and I'm pretty sure the one you're on doesn't exist. You can try the .1 RUU on Shipped-ROMs but don't know if it'll work
3. Yes
4. Yes
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thanks for replying....
yup, the current one has no official RUU cos i believe its the OTA update
the RUU i can find is 2.13.707.1 (and afew differences) now my concern is if i wanna unroot using this RUU will it work or will it have any complications?
(take note that i am rooting on 2.13.707.2, and some differences in some other numbers)

any help?
thanks

Unless I am mistaken your phone is already rooted. The only way to have the superuser app is if you are rooted.

It should work but I dont think anyone will be able to 'guarantee' it!
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Why not return it to stock WWE version by using RRU and start from there?
You will need a goldcard and probably for it not to be SIM-locked.
Z.

rooting 2.2

I know this question has been asked a lot of time, but im android noob and i didnt find on google anything simple to me..
Can I root my wildfire 2.2 ?
i was searching and they say i need to downgrade to v2.1 and i found something they say i can root v2.2 . But how to downgrade ?
I want to root him cuzz i want to install v2.3
and sorry for my bad english but i think you can understand...

if u r on android 2.2 with hboot 1.01 then u cannot root by any software method as far as now. A paid, expensive hardware solution (xtc clip) is available presently to root your phone. It not only roots ur phone, but also turns ur phone to S-OFF.
There is a Noobs Guide to downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1
But with that, even if u downgrade to 2.1, ur hboot will remain the same which still makes the phone unrootable. Now make ur choice, do u want unrootable eclair or unrootable froyo on your device. I hope u wont opt for eclair.
just search for a while lol. It has been answered many times here on xda.

sorry, but what is hboot and how can i know is my hboot 1.01 ? :S

najvecafaca said:
sorry, but what is hboot and how can i know is my hboot 1.01 ? :S
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HBOOT of wildfire is similar to the BIOS of a computer motherboard.
to know about ur phone hboot, just switch off the device and then by holding volume down key press the power button. there will be something displayed on the screen like,
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON or
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF.
it also says ur hboot version. u can root if ur hboot version is 0.80.x but i dont think u have that version.

it says
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
hboot-1.01.0001
then,it can not be rooted ?

najvecafaca said:
it says
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
hboot-1.01.0001
then,it can not be rooted ?
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yes lol thats all.
wait for some rooting process to arrive. everyone else is waiting for the past 4 months just to do that.
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2

bharatgaddameedi said:
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2
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with that tutorial i can downgrade my froyo to 2.1 and root my phone and then instal v2.3 ?
did you try that ? does it work ?

bharatgaddameedi said:
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2
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najvecafaca said:
with that tutorial i can downgrade my froyo to 2.1 and root my phone and then instal v2.3 ?
did you try that ? does it work ?
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That tutorial in the above link (A solution for downgrade cn froyo2.2) works for those who flashed the previously leaked chinese version of froyo. That chinese version of froyo doesn't have the hboot 1.01 (not to be sure but i think it has the hboot 0.83).
Many people are getting confused with that thread. One thing is pretty sure that, as far as now the hboot 1.01 with s-on cannot be rooted with any software methods [Or even hboot 1.01 cannot be downgraded to 0.80 untill today]
recently @dannyjmcguinness has successfully downgraded the hboot 1.01.0002 to hboot 1.01.0001 with s-on. But it gives nothing to users because both those hboots are unrootable. It might lead to some good news in the future.
link of that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037183

hi, I'm new register member here, but i read forum for a long time, and it was very useful. Now i have one question and decide to register and ask.
The thing is, i have wildwire, hboot is 0.80.007, i rooted with unrevoked and i instal RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25_release_151892_signed.
Today i found this thread [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1 | No Hboot | No Radio | No Rooted & Rooted and instal rooted version. Now I'm 2.21 software version, i can move apps to sd card, and above all i think I'm still rooted.
My question is how this is possible if they said that froyo can't be rooted, and advice is not to upgrade to 2.2 version.

bokilava said:
The thing is, i have wildwire, hboot is 0.80.007, i rooted with unrevoked and i instal RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25_release_151892_signed.
Today i found this thread [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1 | No Hboot | No Radio | No Rooted & Rooted and instal rooted version. Now I'm 2.21 software version, i can move apps to sd card, and above all i think I'm still rooted.
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u said that ur hboot is 0.80.0007 and rooted with unrevoked and then installed the 1st RUU. But installing that official RUU will make ur phone unrooted.
And that [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo is a rooted rom with both "no rooted" and "rooted" versions. U said that u installed the rooted version. ok fine.
Actually im on unrootable official froyo with hboot 1.01 and S-ON from the past 4 months. I havent tried any rooted official roms to say whether u r still rooted or not. I have the doubt whether rooted official roms can be installed only in the rooted wildfire or not. I expect they can be installed only in the rooted wildfire (as they are zip files, not exe files). If that is the case, then ur phone is still rooted. I would search and let u know if i got confirmed.
Alternatively, u can check it with "root only" apps like busybox. have a try
bokilava said:
My question is how this is possible if they said that froyo can't be rooted, and advice is not to upgrade to 2.2 version.
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Pretty sure it is possible. Because it is not like, "FROYO CANT BE ROOTED". The point is wildfire HBOOT 1.01 with S-ON can't be rooted. WILDFIRE ROOT depends on hboot and nand security flag. And rooting (in NAND locked devices) has nothing to do with eclair or froyo or gingerbread . And what everyone needs to know here is, "official update not only updates the os to froyo but also updates other things like hboot, radio, recovery (which solely makes the phone unrootable)".
That is the reason why they removed the hboot and radio in the above rooted rom u have mentioned.

thanks for reply, now the things come to a place
something like that was on my mind but i was unsure and confused.
Im installed zip file from sdcard, power on with volume down, etc... now i tried some terminal app where they said that if you type su, it will ask for super user permission and # sign need to appear instead of $ sign. It worked like a charm so i think that im still rooted
So ''don't update to froyo'' thing is only for those users who want OTA update, because of hboot updating, and unable to root new hboot?
Do you know what would be happened that i installed RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed, Will my hboot become 1.xxx?

bokilava said:
thanks for reply, now the things come to a place
something like that was on my mind but i was unsure and confused.
Im installed zip file from sdcard, power on with volume down, etc... now i tried some terminal app where they said that if you type su, it will ask for super user permission and # sign need to appear instead of $ sign. It worked like a charm so i think that im still rooted
So ''don't update to froyo'' thing is only for those users who want OTA update, because of hboot updating, and unable to root new hboot?
Do you know what would be happened that i installed RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed, Will my hboot become 1.xxx?
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U have got super user permissions. So, yes ur phone is rooted for sure. That is what root means actually (getting su permissions).
Yes, that "don't update to froyo" warning is only for users who wish to make the OTA update (without loosing root) from htc.
And again yes, by installing that RUU, ur HBOOT will become 1.01 because it had the latest Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
--Official ruu / ota updates with Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 will always have the HBOOT 1.01.000x
--And official ruu's with Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25 and Radio_13.45.55.24H_3.35.15.31 will have the HBOOT 0.80.000x

[Q] Returning from the Dead

Hello Supersonic Community,
I come to you in my time of need, I have spend the last 3 days at work trying to downgrade an Evo 4g to 2.1. from 2.2.
Initially I ran unrEVOked3 reflash package as from what I read it would probably be the easiest place to start from an unrooted 2.2.
Once I was rooted on 2.2 I followed the guide from here
and used the RUU/Zip files from here
I currently have the phone in a state where it will only load into the bootloader and I do have a working amon ra recovery.
When I try flashing the RUU's PC36img.zip file from hboot I see that it "checks" the zip file however I am not prompted to run the update.
and when trying to run the RUU zip file from recover it says there is not update script.
My main question is if anyone knows why I am not prompted for the update from Hboot or if its possible to flash from recovery back to stock 2.1
I come from a Nexus S and HTC Desire background and have a bit of knowledge just kinda stumped right now on this one. I am currently trying different SD cards for the hboot flash as I have read that it can be a bit finicky.
Thanks in advance for any help.
PHone info
Android version 2.2
Baseband version 2.12.00.09.01
Kernel version 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e
[email protected] #11
Build number 3.29.651.5 CL252548 release-keys
Software number 3.29.651.5
Browser version Webkit 3.1
PRI version 1.77_003
PRL version 60675
Hardware version 0003
h-boot 0.79.00

It all goes back to the Hboot version you have. I think it's anything over 2.10 you can't downgrade.
I think your best bet is to just flash a stock/Rooted 2.1 ROM or a custom Froyo ROM

Well my HBoot is .79 so I hopefully can recover to 2.1.
I basically can't have a rooted phone, I work in mobile QA and we can't test on devices that are rooted. Which I know is a bit retarded but thats how it works for us right now.
If I flash a stock 2.1 rooted Rom I should be able to unroot.... at the very least uninstalled su and my boss won't know hehe
Thanks for your reply.

Did your phone come with that hboot? If your hboot and radio match the ruu you are trying to flash, then it should be good to go. If you r s-off while trying, even better. Do you have 20k or 40k block sizes?
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{ParanoiA} said:
Did your phone come with that hboot? If your hboot and radio match the ruu you are trying to flash, then it should be good to go. If you r s-off while trying, even better. Do you have 20k or 40k block sizes?
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**********HBOOT VERSION IS .79 *************** TYPO IN OP
That would be the Hboot it came with these are testing devices at my work. they are ALL STOCK unless i personally change it as no one else here handles the android phones.
I am unsure of the 20/40 k block sizes you are referring too do you mean on my sd card?

So i have successfully flash a rooted 2.1 stock rom and am trying to uninstall super user. If anyone has any tips on this let me know

Issue resolved.
Set phone into recovery and used ADB to remove the Superuser apk
Thanks for the help

[Q] i'm really stuck - need help getting started in changing roms (experienced user)

hi to all,
i used to have a desire hd a while back and now i've bought 2 more sets for family.
i'm trying to root and s-off to change roms and radios but all the tools i remember are either gone and the links are dead.
i need help starting out.
my current situation is this:
android version: 2.3.3
kernel number: 2.6.35.10
build number: 2.37.707.3
how do i begin? i can't really downgrade as the 1.31 ver is nowhere available.
not sure i need a goldcard as the phone does not seem branded (but it doesnt always show)
plaese help

iamdudi said:
hi to all,
i used to have a desire hd a while back and now i've bought 2 more sets for family.
i'm trying to root and s-off to change roms and radios but all the tools i remember are either gone and the links are dead.
i need help starting out.
my current situation is this:
android version: 2.3.3
kernel number: 2.6.35.10
build number: 2.37.707.3
how do i begin? i can't really downgrade as the 1.31 ver is nowhere available.
not sure i need a goldcard as the phone does not seem branded (but it doesnt always show)
plaese help
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Look here and good luck

well thanks but still stuck
thekool11 said:
Look here and good luck
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i'm running the tool as suggested but when it get to the part when it need to pull the token it gives me an error:
... INFO[ERR] Command error !!!
any clue?

If your hboot is not 2.00.0029, you need to update it. Unlock bootloader is only working for the hboot with that version number.
Sent from my Desire HD

moving forward - still can't downgrade
yumm91 said:
If your hboot is not 2.00.0029, you need to update it. Unlock bootloader is only working for the hboot with that version number.
Sent from my Desire HD
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i've created a goldcard and placed the 1.32 pd981 image file on SD. rebooted to bootloader. everything is updated except stages 9,10,11 (bypassed) and the phone comes up again but when i keep check it i see the software version is still 2.37.
what am i doing wrong?

iamdudi said:
i've created a goldcard and placed the 1.32 pd981 image file on SD. rebooted to bootloader. everything is updated except stages 9,10,11 (bypassed) and the phone comes up again but when i keep check it i see the software version is still 2.37.
what am i doing wrong?
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Doesnt matter what firmware it is if i am not mistaken. Just make sure that the hboot is updated to 2.00.0029.. there is a .zip file that will update the hboot somewhere in the forum.
Sent from my Desire HD