[RESOLVED] Multi-touch buggy? - Desire General

Hey,
Is it common to all firmwares or even all droid phones that the multi-touch is a little buggy?
Anything that involves pressing the screen with two fingers at once seems to involve it getting pretty confused unless it's something simple like zoom (even then, it's not nearly as nice as on an iphone - google maps and website zooming sometimes gets it wrong).
Is this a 2.1 issue? Or a Desire issue?
Also sometimes when I'm typing fast on the onscreen keyboard it will show up as if I've dragged my finger from place to place.

Yes it is buggy as the screen can only support two touches and no more or it gets confused. The iPhone has the best multi touch screen out imo. But for normal pinching and zooming the desire works fine.

The screen on the Desire isnt really multitouch capable. It's more like "pinch & zoom multitouch" and thats it.

All of HTC phone's have this problem, due to the panel they use. IMO Galaxy S has a damn good multi-touch, as good as the iPhone.

The screen is dual touch. But even that's a lie because it can only see one touch, even with two fingers. It sees it s a big touch in the shape of a square with your two fingers on opposite corners. Trouble is it doesn't know which corners and has to guess (gets it right most of the time).
The moral of the story is don't press two keys at the same time.

Dragooon123 said:
All of HTC phone's have this problem, due to the panel they use. IMO Galaxy S has a damn good multi-touch, as good as the iPhone.
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Not all.
The Incredible and the EVO use different touch panels which support more than 2 points. I'd expect the Desire HD and Desire Z will too.
Regards,
Dave

im pretty sure its the drivers they use rather than the panels themselves

Rastaman-FB said:
im pretty sure its the drivers they use rather than the panels themselves
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No it's the panels! Same as the nexus one (Synaptics ClearPad 2000). Also it sucks for multitouch.

Ahh! That's the reason that I can't play very well these games using controls and buttons painted in the screen, it looks not very responsible some times... Like snes emulator!
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Thanks for the replies, folks. Very interesting.
One thing that I've found, quite regularly, is that the zoom is Google Maps screws up and zooms in instead of out, or out instead of in. Yet this never happens in the web browser...

Sorry but this thread sucks, i just read the headlines:
[RESOLVED] Multi-touch buggy?
For me it sounded the issue is resolved, but only this dumb question..

If the replies here are correct, eg,
The screen is dual touch. But even that's a lie because it can only see one touch, even with two fingers. It sees it s a big touch in the shape of a square with your two fingers on opposite corners. Trouble is it doesn't know which corners and has to guess (gets it right most of the time).
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then how come applications like Gensoid (Sega Genesis/Megadrive emulator) work? The application uses multitouch, one side of the screen for the d-pad and the other for the ABC buttons. Works pretty well too.

If the replies here are correct, eg,
The screen is dual touch. But even that's a lie because it can only see one touch, even with two fingers. It sees it s a big touch in the shape of a square with your two fingers on opposite corners. Trouble is it doesn't know which corners and has to guess (gets it right most of the time).
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then how come applications like Gensoid (Sega Genesis/Megadrive emulator) work? The application uses multitouch, one side of the screen for the d-pad and the other for the ABC buttons. Works pretty well too.
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Would you like me to draw a picture?

mercianary said:
Would you like me to draw a picture?
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may be with multitouch paint?
s.

mercianary said:
Would you like me to draw a picture?
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Go on then. Smart arse.

im really curious, was the multitouch issue solved with the super lcd screens that are shipping with the desire now?

I have the SLCD version and i can play emulators just fine. Eg: Snes super metroid running while holding down right trigger and firing rocket. No lag or input issues. Can even do this with the Wii classic controller plugged into the wiimote.

http://wssoo.blogspot.com/2010/06/htc-desire-multi-touch-defect.html
This is a known issue that affects every Desire.

Chad_Petree said:
im really curious, was the multitouch issue solved with the super lcd screens that are shipping with the desire now?
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AFAIK the screen has nothing to do with this.. the screen is the first layer, then comes the touch panel and then some kind of scratch resistant glass/plastic/whatever.
And the touch panel is the problem here..

iouk said:
If the replies here are correct, eg, then how come applications like Gensoid (Sega Genesis/Megadrive emulator) work? The application uses multitouch, one side of the screen for the d-pad and the other for the ABC buttons. Works pretty well too.
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if you multi-touch on the screen and your fingers does NOT cross the other finger's axis (X-Axis OR Y-Axis) than you are fine.
but if one of your fingers started to cross one of the other finger's axis, than you are screwed.
thats why the smart people who made SNES and other emulators made an option for the Dpad to be on one corner and the other buttons on the opposite corner, this way you could avoid axis crossing (which is a problem for the Desire and nexus one and other phones that have the same display type)
In HTC's defence, they never publicly mentioned/announced that the Desire is multi-touch, they only mentioned that is has "pinch-to-zoom capability" ...

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Is it just me that can affect the screen without actually touching it?

At first I thought it was either a fluke, or just not happening, but now I know it definitely is. I can press onscreen keys and buttons without actually touching the screen.
I've seen recently that there is a screen tech that registers hovering fingers but I'm not sure if the ClearPad 2000 hardware can do this. "I'm not sure" meaning "I have no idea."
Interestingly it is affecting the way I type as as I type and skim over onscreen keys, I will sometimes get that "run you finger across a piano" effect. If that's makes sense to people.
I do know that I have a habbit of giving an electric shock to many things and people. Maybe I'm just highly charged and it's affecting the screen???
Is it just me that gets this?
i just had a few try's and i couldn't do it, i had to actually make contact for anything to happen
AFAIK, capacitive touchscreens work by reacting to the natural hand capacitance (i.e. the tiny amounts of electricity stored in your body). Therefore, I suppose it makes sense that different people can have different levels of capacitance.
No doubt someone who knows will be along soon!
Sometimes, the screen can be very sensitive ... and sometimes, you can accidently touch the trackpad.
Yeah, I experienced this issue as well.
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As already mentioned, capacitive screens do not actually register your finger touching the screen, but just the electric field your fingers produce when near to the sensor. The sensor in this case is actually a grid of thin wires spanned across the screen, you can see them when the screen is off and hold the phone at a certain angle to a lightsource.
So, depending on the calibration of the sensor, a finger will get registered even if you just hover over the glass.
No chance to hover and register a touch on mine, albeit when I hold the phone with my normal left-hand grip - my thumb being just above the volume key - it registers as a touch on the screen so a single finger slide doesn't result in a scroll but a zoom in/out. I really can't stand the length of the volume key.
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perhaps its the optical track ball ???? That will do it ... 1cm away from the track area the screen moves. as it should
Nah, for me it's not an issue with accidentally rubbing the optical trackball. Plus I've tested this a number of times. I can hover a finger over the screen and get the screen to respond. So when the keyboard is up, I can type without touching the screen. Seems to work best with my thumbs. And interestingly, my right thumb works "better" (if I can call it that) than my left.
Maybe I am just highly charged. Especially when the weather gets hotter I give a lot more things electrical shocks. I'd better hurry up and get a protective case!
This has happened to me quite a lot. I wasn't entirely sure if just psychic? Hahaha!
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Does it for me all the time, I can hover at a maximum of about 2mm above the screen and it still reacts!!
PaulW21781 said:
Does it for me all the time, I can hover at a maximum of about 2mm above the screen and it still reacts!!
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Conversely I can touch my screen really gently and nothing happens.
poldie said:
Conversely I can touch my screen really gently and nothing happens.
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Yes this how my Desire reacts also, I can very very gently touch the screen without it being registered.
Hey Cleargrey,
I can confirm this behaviour on my Desire. The explenation given by petzlux is also correct.
Friendly regards,
Joost
The force is strong in you, my young padawan!
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Hey Cleargrey,
I can confirm this behaviour on my Desire. The explenation given by petzlux is also correct.
Friendly regards,
Joost
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Thanks. But I prefer to believe I have supreme ethereal powers.

Another WP7 Hate Thread: MultiTouch

I HATE using the iphone that my friends have because i cannot use my nail. I am so used to using my nail since 2004. I wish they would have used resistive multi touch instead of capacitive.
Guess i will be keeping my TD 2 for a long long time.
Guess you are.
What's the point of this thread and why couldn't you just post your opinion in the "WP7 is complete fail" thread?
Capacitive are much better than resistive screens for touch screen phones and that's a fact(you just need to get used to them). For tablets it's the other way around.
It would be awesome if someone figured out a way to utilize both techs.
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It would be awesome if someone figured out a way to utilize both techs.
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Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
Helmore said:
Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
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Doesn't work according to owners of the incredible.
There are resistive screens that support both nails and multitouch.
They are not supported by Microsoft however. But we might see them in other (e.g. Android) phones in the future.
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There are resistive screens that support both nails and multitouch.
They are not supported by Microsoft however. But we might see them in other (e.g. Android) phones in the future.
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I don't expect any Android phones with resistive screens from any of the bigger Android supporters in the industry, like HTC for example. HTC has said that they learned from the HTC Tattoo to never do an Android phone with a resistive touchscreen again. It's simply too much of an inferior experience and that makes the higher cost of a capacitive touchscreen worth it.
The problem with a resistive touchscreen is that it reacts to pressure and not to contact. That's precisely what you need if you want to operate the touchscreen with your nails, but it just doesn't work well for all other touchscreen user interface manipulations. It's just a much more pleasant experience if the screen reacts to your input without having to barely do anything, it makes using the touchscreen a much more delightful experience.
Another problem with a resistive touchscreen is the fact that because it reacts to pressure, the screen need to be flexible. This means that you can't use a tempered glass screen or something similar on a resistive touchscreen device and you can't (or it's very very hard to) make a device with a touchscreen that's flush with its bezel. The former means that your screen a more prone to scratching and also that it makes the underlying screen a bit more vulnerable to damage.
Now I agree that a capacitive touchscreen also has its drawbacks, but for a mobile phone or a PMP a capacitive touchscreen and a finger friendly user interface is preferable in my opinion compared to a resistive touchscreen. There are other market segments and usage scenarios where a device with a resistive touchscreen is preferable to a capacitive touchscreen, for example in Postal Services where the mail man can collect a signature from you on his portable device that features a resistive touchscreen or in restaurants. But for a mobile phone I'd prefer a capacitive touchscreen simply because it's much easier to use and I don't need a stylus (too cumbersome) on a mobile phone.
This is not a resistive vs. capacitive discussion. I much prefer capacitive on phones, but here's a user who wants to use his fingernails. Hence I was just stating the facts: Microsoft does not support anything but capacitive, but we might see new resistive panels on other phones (that are different from and much better than what was used in the tattoo).
Whether you like resistive screens or not is another story.
xboxhaxorz said:
I HATE using the iphone that my friends have because i cannot use my nail. I am so used to using my nail since 2004. I wish they would have used resistive multi touch instead of capacitive.
Guess i will be keeping my TD 2 for a long long time.
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I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
gom99 said:
I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
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I've never used a capacative screen so I don't know if I will like it or not. I don't have fingernails but I do like using my pencil or stylus in class while doing math problems on my spacetime graphic calc software so It'll be interesting to see how I feel about a capacative screen.
Resistive great for sweaty palms
For a guy who's hands sweats alot, I actually had to give up my blackberry storm for a Touch pro 2... Now, I agree that the capacitive screen is very easy to manipulate but when my hands sweat 85% of the time, a resistive screen is a godsend. While the percentage of sweaty palms vs normal palms is probably very small, capacitive screens turn to shyte when water gets on it.... and when that happens, it's like I have a brick...i cannot do anything... even if my hands get clammy, the difficulty in typing or navigating the screen is "hair pulling" awful.
To be honest... I really love using my nails and a stylus... plus you have to admit...pullng out a touch pro 2 in a meeting and then using the stylus...It just brings a green hue to the room (envy) lol!
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For a guy who's hands sweats alot, I actually had to give up my blackberry storm for a Touch pro 2... Now, I agree that the capacitive screen is very easy to manipulate but when my hands sweat 85% of the time, a resistive screen is a godsend. While the percentage of sweaty palms vs normal palms is probably very small, capacitive screens turn to shyte when water gets on it.... and when that happens, it's like I have a brick...i cannot do anything... even if my hands get clammy, the difficulty in typing or navigating the screen is "hair pulling" awful.
To be honest... I really love using my nails and a stylus... plus you have to admit...pullng out a touch pro 2 in a meeting and then using the stylus...It just brings a green hue to the room (envy) lol!
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Don't feel bad, I have Hyperhidrosis too. Probably the main reason I hate capacitive, anything I touch turns to a smudgy mess. I know you can use a stylus with a capacitive screen, but it really feels awkward with the 1cm^2 tip and the lack of precision of a real stylus. Also it's not contractable and easily stored in the device since it's not the norm to have a stylus with a capacitive screen.
I reckon y'all have got girl fingernails.
Come on guys, trim those nails, and would it kill you to use the fingernail brush every once in a while?
Capacitive screens Feck The World!
elyl said:
I reckon y'all have got girl fingernails.
Come on guys, trim those nails, and would it kill you to use the fingernail brush every once in a while?
Capacitive screens Feck The World!
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you don't need a long fingernail to touch your fingernail against something...just turn your finger more so your nail makes contact with the surface before your tip does. Unless of course you have unsightly hands where your meaty part of your finger encapulates your fingernail.
Looks good , very well done!
I know they have resistive multi touch but its probably too expensive. I might end up switching to another company for phones and i would hate too as i have been a HTC user since the wing. The capacitive glassy feel is not for me, and a stylus is a must especially for drawing and hw recognition which the hd2 and iphone have none of.
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The capacitive glassy feel is not for me, and a stylus is a must
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Same here, no stylus, no ability to use small, space efficient text....no interest.
gom99 said:
I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
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I agree. I'd also rather use my stylus because I want my phone like a mini-computer. It can't use a mouse for pin-point accuracy, but a stylus sure suffices.
I understand the world is going to capacitive touchscreens and it's a shame. I always liked resistive better. It's more accurate. I know that people want to use their finger tips to swipe and sweep and whatever, but there are plenty of limitations out there to it.
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Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
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Wish I had 16 fingers...
You guys could always use a capacitive stylus. Remeber capacitive screen works by detecting a change of charge in the screen. Basically things that can conduct electricity should be usable as a stylus. If you're smart, you wouldn't find it hard to modify any stylus to make it work with a capacitive screen.
Else, you could buy any of the capacitive styluses online, which usually cost 3-20 dollar-ish. The fluffy tip is the best as you don't need to hold it at an angle.
I'm still waiting for my HD2 currently, and I already ordered that stylus in advance
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You guys could always use a capacitive stylus. Remeber capacitive screen works by detecting a change of charge in the screen. Basically things that can conduct electricity should be usable as a stylus. If you're smart, you wouldn't find it hard to modify any stylus to make it work with a capacitive screen.
Else, you could buy any of the capacitive styluses online, which usually cost 3-20 dollar-ish. The fluffy tip is the best as you don't need to hold it at an angle.
I'm still waiting for my HD2 currently, and I already ordered that stylus in advance
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Yeah, but the capacitive stylus feels nothing like the resistive ones.

Is Capactive really BETTER than resistive?

Most of the latest smartphones and upcoming phones appear to have capacative screens and they seem to be the preferred type. However, I still use a resistive screen and I recently borrowed an HTC HD2 with capactive screen and I was not that impressed.
Certainly, they do resopond to a lighter touch but for me that was an irritation as I would regularly accidentally touch/select something by mistake. My Touch Pro2 resistive screen does not require much more pressure on the screen but just enough that it is hard to select something accidentally. I also like to use my finger nail to select which of course you cannot do with a capactive screen. Selecting some of the smaller menus in Windows Mobile is quite difficult on a capactive screen.
The other reason I like using my finger nail is to minimize finger marks on the screen. I noticed when using a capactive screen that it was covered in finger marks very quickly.
So, are capactive screens really "better"? I have held off upgrading my Touch Pro2 as I do not think that capactive screens are better than some of the latter resistive screens. However, it seems that if I do want to upgrade my phone in due course I am going to have to go with a capactive screen.
Maybe my Touch Pro2 will serve me for a while longer yet!
Apparently I heard the Capactive screens dont have as accurate of touches either. But then again you have things like pinch zooming and stuff to that nature. With phones these days its all a give and a get. Your problem with thumb imprints, a lot of the newer screen protectors dont get thumbprints. My friend has an Evo with a Anti-Glare screen and he uses it so much that he carries arond two batteries with himself at all time, I have never seen a thumbprint on hisphone. Maybe its the anti-glare or the type of shield? I'm not sure. But with a damp cloth the prints go away quite easily
i never saw the benefit of pinch zooming either, it just seems like now i need 2 hands (one to hold the phone and one to pinch) to do something that only took 1 hand (double tap with my thumb while holding the phone in the same hand)
i felt that way about a lot of iphone "features" to me it just seemed like an extra step or more complex way to do something that was devised solely to justify the capacitive screen and say "looks its new and different, therefore it MUST be better!"
I'm a heavy user of Remote Desktop. I got to really sit down and play with my friends HD2 yesterday (capacitive screen). I found that I hated it. At first, the pinch & zoom with RDP is cool & looks impressive. In actual use however, I found it cumbersome and potentially dangerous. While playing with the pinch & zoom a few times with Windows Explorer open, I accidentally picked up huge chunks of my folders and dropped them somewhere else... Pressing small dialog boxes with my fat fingers was nearly impossible, and the program itself was buggy and cumbersome (sometimes very difficult to scroll to the corner to hit "X" or Start", etc.)
I'm sure some clever programmer could find a way to use these features effectively, but since WM 6.5 is essentially dead, I have to consider that this might be the *only* RDP client ever made for the HD2, and I found that it just isn't good enough.
I suspect my feelings about this will apply to many other programs when using a capacitive screen with them.
I think capacitive screens are good for telephonic use (big keys and little messages). For office use, stylus and keyboard are unsurpassed (little and accurate selections and long texts). Obviously many users are interested, understandably, to phones and producers prefer to sell more capacitive phones than a few pdaphones. Problems will come with professional and power users.
Imho.
From what little I've used them I can't stand them. I like pressing with the tip of my fingernail which obviously doesn't register. I also use the stylus quite a bit for scribbling quick notes and drawings. I've got pretty massive hands and going to press on a keyboard key is really hit or miss.
Why capacitive screens?
Because the industry follows the idiots at Apple. If apple releases something, they have to, because they are afraid of losing market share.
I'd like to see them come up with something apple DOESN'T have and spin it like his PR buddies do.
It's amazing... the iphone 4, when it was released and myself and a few of my
amateur radio buddies saw the OUTSIDE band that was an antenna we all started
laughing that it would probably have signal degradation, and sure enough, it did, because when you put your finger over the "spot", you change the wavelength of the antenna.
I'm just glad it was found to be imperfect BEFORE everyone jumped on THAT bandwagon, like they have with capacitive screens.
i think its a personal preference. I for one enjoy resistive. i like having the accurate point to highlight text where as its a pain to select text using any capacitive screen.
My gf recently got the Evo and i'm constantly pressing thing accidentally. also for the ipad, since its capacitive, thats why it doesn't have handwriting recognition. the only reason i considered getting one was because i could load up all my textbooks for my classes which would make it easier in several ways. wouldn't have to carry around a bunch of books and you good search for keywords rather than flipping through and trying to remember where that one paragraph was.
I know you can highlight, but to add notes, you have to use an onscreen keyboard. would of been much better if there was a stylus and you could just pull that out and jot down a couple notes real quick. but since its capacitive, no can do.
there was a blog (can't remember which one) which contained an article about how a new phone was coming out and the only bad thing about it was a resistive screen. The comments went ablaze with posts like in this thread. each has its pros and cons, but i prefer resistive.
I like using a stylus to tap smaller screen elements, especially with programs like remote desktop. However, after using resistive screens for the past five years, I reluctantly went capacitive with the Evo, and I have to say it wasn't that bad. I like that the screen is no longer squishy, the glass won't scratch when I clean it off my shirt, and multitouch makes it easier to zoom in to the exact size you want.
And while the Windows rdp program requires excessive pinch and zoom, the one I use on the Evo has a virtual mouse pointer, so I never have to resize the screen and I can click on even the smallest elements. I can also use my finger for larger things.
I'll see how I feel when it's 10 below and I have to answer my phone.
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I'll see how I feel when it's 10 below and I have to answer my phone.
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thats true.
Last winter and it was freezing, all my iphone friends had to take they're gloves off to use their phones (although there are gloves with a static point at the end that will work on capacitive screens) but i was fine with my tilt2 and gloves. Also swype is a lifesaver in the cold and when your wearing gloves, find the right gloves with a nice point at the end, not too blunt, and works perfectly!
Gaming and other multi-touch?
Gaming is really the only advantage I can see to using a capacitive screen; that is, the fact that you can easily have multi-touch controls. There's also the benefit of multi-touch gestures that can be useful- but these all still seem pretty buggy and somewhat of a pointless novelty where I have read about them being employed. I personally do not ever want to use a capacitive touchscreen device as there is just too much sacrifice in functionality. Sad that the market is moving hard in that direction.

[Q] Are resistive screens dead?

Will Ms only sanction the use of capacitive screens?
imaginarynumber said:
Will Ms only sanction the use of capacitive screens?
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Thankfully resistive screens are a thing of the distant past. I am only too glad to never have to change another digitizer.
Ms will only sanction capacitive screens since multitouch is a requirement for OEM's
Probably. Resistive touchscreen's aren't practical for touch-friendly interfaces.
And if you want to use a stylus (with really good precision), you'll just get a screen that has a Wacom Digitizer in it, which usually also supports Capacitive touch (like the HP Touchsmart TM2).
thanks for the replies I thought that was the case but just wanted to double check.
Yeah my gf is pretty annoyed that all the new phones won't let her use her fingernails to swipe and stuff, lol.
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Yeah my gf is pretty annoyed that all the new phones won't let her use her fingernails to swipe and stuff, lol.
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These days when I use my fingernail for precision on my touch diamond 2, the digitizer gets stuck to the glass. So glad that resistive touch screens are dead
For me resistive is absolutely superior because you can navigate with anything on it.
Capactive is just "stupid".
But there are styluses for capactive, right?
doministry said:
For me resistive is absolutely superior because you can navigate with anything on it.
Capactive is just "stupid".
But there are styluses for capactive, right?
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Well capacitive screens are much better than resistive and yeah there are a few styluses for capacitive screens.
Phone Titan said:
Well capacitive screens are much better than resistive and yeah there are a few styluses for capacitive screens.
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There's an HTC one, but it looks really weird.
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I actually prefer the precision of the resistive screen. Sure, image quality is lower but my phone is a work tool rather than a portable dvd player or games console.
I liked being able to scrawl notes with my finger nail rather than using the (where's my screen gone) keyboard.
I had always thought that the need for the abiltiy to input "chinese" characters etc, would keep the resistive alive.
Frankly I don't see the big deal about multi-tap other than game playing
Oh well at least there will be more money for the third party companies that make replacement glass screens...
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I actually prefer the precision of the resistive screen. Sure, image quality is lower but my phone is a work tool rather than a portable dvd player or games console.
I liked being able to scrawl notes with my finger nail rather than using the (where's my screen gone) keyboard.QUOTE]
I've always been partial to resistive for exactly those reasons. My wife says I look silly tapping on my handset with a stylus, but I don't mind looking like a geek from 2005. I always thought the sylus was the best thing about having a smartphone/PDA (OK, maybe I REALLY AM a geek). I used to have an aftermarket stylus for my PPC6700 with a minature pen hidden inside it - so I'd always have a pen handy. You'd be surprised how often that'll come in handy. And the stylus is handy whenever you need to reset anything with a recessed reset button.
I like getting the most amount of information on my screen at one time as possible, so I don't have to keep scrolling around. Working with a spreadsheet or word doc when you've got it zoomed out to 75% (on a WVGA screen like the touch pro 2) is simply not feasible with a fingertip.
Of course, larger screens will make a big difference, but it's going to be pretty d*mn hard for me to give up my stylus. Eventually I'm going to have to get with the program, but I don't have to like it!
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The largest screen size I have had to date was the 5" on the Ameo, albeit at a lower resolution. The smallest was the touch pro
As far as I am concerned the touchflo worked well on both and I didn't need a stylus as i had trained my finger nails. I don't believe that a capacitive screen would have improved my experience in any way
I like resistive screens did you try to brake one?
I dropped a Touch Diamond 2 of my motorbike on motorway at just over 70mph. It hit a car behind me. I stopped, spend 30 min looking for it. Found battery and phone and except all cover being broken all was fine.
Resistive screens on WM devices often s**k, probably because of the OS. On the other hand resistive screen on SE Satio is great. It is solid, not mushy, and very responsive.
The logical step for manufacturers would be to market both technologies, but current marketing trend dictates capacitive because... uh... I don't know. Most people I know can't distinguish between them anyway.
Btw, I had some capacitive phones to test and I really don't understand the hype around capacitive screens. It's like using a 5cm round mouse cursor...

Edge of screen touches not registering

Anyone else having issues where touching the edge of the screen but the phone not registering it?
Like in chrome or gmail or any other app that has the menu button at the top right of the app. I hit the 3 dots but nothing happens. I've even tapped multiple times in a row with nothing registered.
Seems I have to go further into the screen where the curved part stops and the screen goes back flat before the touches are registered normally.
I'm curious if this is normal or not, I'm seriously considering returning the phone for this so I want to know if it's just me or not.
Getting the same thing on mine. Only really noticed it on the keyboard trying to get characters on the very right edge. Already got used to it though and just changed how it tap those characters. Should really be fixed by Google though - even if it's just a software sensitivity thing. You're the first other person I've heard of that has seen this though, so....not at all sure how common it is.
I've noticed it to a few times, particularly in the top right corner.
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Yep. Happens on the right side constantly.
Yes, a game that I play doesn't scale properly for the different ratio, and not only am I missing stuff hanging over the edges, but I also can't tap on stuff right at the edge. I am definitely remembering why I don't usually get day one phones (or 2nd generation phones, it seems like the 1st gen is always cool but lacking, 2nd has all the features but none of them work, and 3rd they finally fix all the problems... 4th and later are then usually boring).
Anaelith said:
Yes, a game that I play doesn't scale properly for the different ratio, and not only am I missing stuff hanging over the edges, but I also can't tap on stuff right at the edge. I am definitely remembering why I don't usually get day one phones (or 2nd generation phones, it seems like the 1st gen is always cool but lacking, 2nd has all the features but none of them work, and 3rd they finally fix all the problems... 4th and later are then usually boring).
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Unless it's the Moto X you're talking about.
Gen 1 was the best. 2 had some new features but the look got butchered. 3 was a complete mess thanks to Lenovo. 4 after a 2 year hiatus isn't even an X. Just a Lenovo phone wannabe using their purchased Moto brand name and X line. lol
RIP Moto
Yup, I am having the same issues.
I have noticed the same problems as well.
And in Play Music when I try to touch the 3 dots on the album art to select download it jumps down thru the library?
I have also noticed that when using navigator for walking and carrying it in my pocket when I pull it out to check the screen it sometimes takes a while for the screen to come on?
No issues here.
Are you using a screen protector or anything?
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No issues here.
Are you using a screen protector or anything?
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No screen protector here. Touch response is terrible on my phone. Takes 2-3 taps for the screen to respond on certain things.
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No issues here.
Are you using a screen protector or anything?
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No screen protector. I am using a case, but I took it off and tested and get the same problem without the case too.
Noticed the same thing here on both the left and right side particularly when using the keyboard.
I've noticed something else though, I can run my fingers along the edge and it will scroll. But tapping in the same spot doesn't register so I am thinking it is software filtering out the touches.
shark1987 said:
I've noticed something else though, I can run my fingers along the edge and it will scroll. But tapping in the same spot doesn't register so I am thinking it is software filtering out the touches.
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I noticed the same thing. tapping on the far right edge doesn't register anything, but pressing and scrolling up/down, there will be a small delay and then it'll start scrolling. Pretty annoying, but should be fixable.
Same problem here... Notice it mostly on lower right. Keyboard and thumbs up in the messenger.
Same with me. I had extreme difficulty registering a key-press when typing a '0' on my keyboard earlier today. As on a normal keyboard, the '0' is on the right edge.
I cannot however seem to recreate the issue now.
Has anyone tried contacting Google support regarding this?
Thought I was imagining it, but it keeps happening to me as well.
dude_savage_89 said:
Same with me. I had extreme difficulty registering a key-press when typing a '0' on my keyboard earlier today. As on a normal keyboard, the '0' is on the right edge.
I cannot however seem to recreate the issue now.
Has anyone tried contacting Google support regarding this?
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I contacted Google support about the issue and they offered to replace my device with a new device.
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Just found this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycompany.anton_mokshyn.touchscreentest which lets you test the touch screen detection. With it I'm finding that the edges of the screen often require two touches to get them to register. I'd be interested to hear what others are seeing.
I feel like I'm the only one who got a non defective pickle. I've literally experienced none of the issues going around in these forums. Thank you lawd

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