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Google voice

Can someone tell me if I use Google does it take away from my mins bc I still have to use my line to call Google and rate plan was changed so I do need to make some free calls
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2 part answer.
Call forwarding is free with I'm pretty sure all EVO plans on sprint, therefore using the google voice app for voicemail uses data and is free. ( you have to dial *28-your google voice number to set it up).
Using google voice to place calls (I call canada for free daily on it), definitely uses minutes unless... You get Sprint to give you " 3 free numbers / landlines" to call and them you don't accrue minutes for those (home, work etc...). You then just make one of your free numbers your google voice number and then all calls placed through google voice will be free too (no minute accrual).
The only problem is that last time I called customer retention, they said they were no longer offering that option (vs. Verizon, att and others that I believe still do -not confirmed)
Either way, GV is a great low cost way to call international from your cell
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Sprint does offer an option called "Sprint To Home" which lets you pick 1 number to call unlimited. It costs $5 extra a month. Also, when you sign up (you have to call customer service) they tell you that you cannot use it with any service that will allow you to re-route your calls (i.e. Google Voice). Of course, I don't think they actually check on the number you provide them, but I'm sure if all your calls came to/from this number and you were using 1000 minutes a month, a red flag is going to go off somewhere.
Basically, stop trying to cheat the system. If you need a ton of minutes, get the Unlimited plan.

Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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mobgod said:
Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?

goodelyfe said:
google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?
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OK - 2 different issues
GV for the voicemail is using data and therefore unlimited.
Phone/Voice calls do not use data, they use minutes. The GV dialer dials an access number (which changes every few months) to place calls and therefore it DOES use minutes. The changing access number makes it generally impractical to change one of your "pick 5 / Favorite number" every few months.
But it can be done.
use the following format to add a telephone number in each contact that you want to use for GV (ie international)
you GV number,,your pin,,2,,the number you want to dial#
the "," is for a 2 second pause (depending which ROM you are using, it sometimes needs to be a "p")
the "#" tells GV that you are done with the number and place the call.
albeit labor intensive to setup, but it works I do it every day.
Also last point,
GV is NOT 10 cents/ min all international
as mentioned Canada is free (which is why I use this method even without the saving minutes issue)
the rates are VOIP like and can be found by logging into your google voice account and looking up "Rates"

Isn't Google Voice just VOIP?

Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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Kufer said:
Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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You don't even need to add money unless you're making international calls.

touche!!!! lol my b
thanks for the elaboration...got lazy

I'm lost lol so there is noway to do this bc it does use mins correct like people tell me to use fring but that will also say call with Google voice or without
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Yes I believe so since GV is a landline number.
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What do you like/dislike about Google Voice?

I have already switched to G-Voice as my voice mail provider, but I was wondering what else is good about it? I love the text transcript of voice mails, but I do not know much about this program.
Why would you want to create a Google number? What are the perks?
What are some things that are not commonly known about it? Tricks? I have a feeling there are a bunch of things I do not know about it because I have not had enough time to really get into it.

Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.

teh roxxorz said:
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?

lehalter said:
If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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Not so much, but you can use it to send texts, and long distance calls. If you go in the settings you can configure it. Also, if you sign out on that phone, you can use it on another phone and keep your messages, I find it to be nice.

First, a word of warning. When you use Google Voice to make outgoing calls, it is considered a call to a landline. So you are eating your Anytime minutes when using this. So the unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier option does not apply. Keep that in mind. Someone on these forums ended up with a $5000 bill. lol Luckily they got it reversed.
#1 Block callers
#2 Ring all numbers you designate
#3 Calls can come through Google Chat/Gmail
#4 Can give your GV number to people you don't like.
#5 Voicemail screening. You can screen people leaving a voicemail and decide to answer as they are leaving the message or just have it go through to voicemail. Although almost all my friends just hang up and decide to just blow my phone up instead -.-
#6 Listen to your VM on any computer with internet access.

Couple of things:
1) Free text messaging through GV. You get texts in the GV app on your EVO, through google.com/voice, and you can get them through the GV app on other devices.
2) Cheap international calling.
3) One phone number for multiple phones. I have GV set up so it can ring my work phone, cellphone, SIP number, Gmail chat widget, and home phone simultaneously, or on a schedule.
4) Don't need cell service to text, call, or get voicemails. This is extremely useful if you have a WiFi-only tablet or device, such as the upcoming WiFi Xoom. Also, if I'm in an area of the building at work where there's crap service, I can just turn on WiFi, connect, and get my texts through there, and use SIP to make/receive calls.
5) Everything is saved online. Texts, voicemails, and call logs are all on google.com/voice so if I switch ROMs or whatever, I don't have to worry about saving my texts, voicemails, call log, contacts, emails, apps... You get the point.
Basically, Google Voice + Google Sync + Gingerbread/Froyo = 100% backed up to the cloud. I honestly only keep Titanium Backup on my phone for restoring apps that aren't in the Market, convenience (decrypting and unpacking some gzip'd tars is a LOT faster than downloading via 3G), and I have a few apps I'd rather not lose the data for (Google Authenticator, Angry Bids, Launcher Pro, etc.).
6) Customized voicemails (my mom was amazed when I had separate voicemail messages for her, my stepdad, the house number, my boss, etc.)
7) Call screening (Really nifty for those folks who block their phone number, 800 numbers, etc)
8) Free visual voicemail!

I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.

conductive said:
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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It is free under the following conditions:
1) You use it to call your SIP number that has unlimited free incoming calls (such as Sipgate).
2) You have unlimited calling to/from specified numbers (Such as Sprint's call-home or w/e, T-Mobile/Verizon/whatever's MyFaves, My Five, etc.
Also, from the app's description in the Market:
Google Voice Callback can be combined with Gizmo5/Sipdroid/Fring/Sipgate or other VOIP solutions to make free calls over wifi or 3G.
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Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?

Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation

flying_low said:
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
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Maybe you should not beleive everything you read there Gizmo.
And then what sip to sip to sip Haha ha
Better yet lets try it with 3G good one.
You ever try to sip anything there Gizmo

twiz0r said:
Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Have not used it but it's in the tips section

One thing is for sure is that you usually thank somebody and not flame them when they look out for somebody so they do not get burned. Senior members without a clue should also give thanks when a noob has to straighten them out and also apologize for being a flamer so we can get back on the question at hand

Thanks for all of this guys. I was already using it, but know about these other things is cool.

I love Google but had nothing but problems with voice....half the time or more it would say # disconnected and a host of other problems......shy away from voice in my opinion
Sent from my HERO200 running gingerbread....suck it sprint

I love everything about GV except for the lack of MMS

I think somebody thanked me but it is now gone. Thanks if you did.
Number porting
Vanity Numbers
Blacklisting .
Gizmo was awesome but it is now gone I hope it comes back.
I used many of these apps and there is a lot to go over here so send a thanks or other if you are interested. I just do not feel like adding any technical information since I got flamed. I can also tell you that I gave a thanks to the member that informed you guys about how it can eat minutes and I hope that you did the same. Personally I would stay away from the bogus market app that is not made by gogle. It used to be called GV free dial.

[Q] anyone know how to make free phone calls through wifi?

Edit: skip it all, here is the answer.. install these two apps and follow the directions closely!
Google Voice free
Groove IP $3.99 (one time fee)
this works. i still havent activated my phone yet i can call and text (no picture mail yet) for free!!

Skype?
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I think there was something about that on one of the android sites this week. I have no need so I can't remember which.
Try googling it.

Get GrooVe IP from the Amazon Appstore (only $1.99). It makes VOIP calls using your Google Voice number.
Even better-- if you have the Sprint/GV integration, it makes calls from your regular number. Works great!

Set up a Google voice number on the ccomputer and download the app on your phone. No need for other sh1t. You can make calls, text.. just waiting for mms now
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.

Crossrocker said:
Set up a Google voice number on the ccomputer and download the app on your phone. No need for other sh1t. You can make calls, text.. just waiting for mms now
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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GV doesn't do it over WiFi, it uses your radios. Which is why, in the beginning of GV, people were urged to not use it for calling - because the way GV works, Google actually calls you and connects - which means you're dialing a landline and lost Sprint's mobile-to-mobile free-calls. It ate into your minutes, even if you were dialing a cell - because it's really Google that's connecting the two magically.
With the sprint/gv integration, they made it so it's considered mobile-to-mobile, but it's still over the cell radio, not wifi.

Josh H. said:
Get GrooVe IP from the Amazon Appstore (only $1.99). It makes VOIP calls using your Google Voice number.
Even better-- if you have the Sprint/GV integration, it makes calls from your regular number. Works great!
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+1 to GrooveIP.
works like a charm over WiFi, 3g, 4g.
setup in 10 seconds.
constant updates from developer.
well, well worth the money.
i found myself on vacation with no phone reception, but decent 3g service. I used it all week for calls with no issues whatsoever.

Skype?
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It cost money to make calls to real phones.
Get GrooVe IP from the Amazon Appstore (only $1.99). It makes VOIP calls using your Google Voice number.
Even better-- if you have the Sprint/GV integration, it makes calls from your regular number. Works great!
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Haven't tried that yet (crossing fingers)
Set up a Google voice number on the ccomputer and download the app on your phone. No need for other sh1t. You can make calls, text.. just waiting for mms now
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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Total fail a stand alone app.

try friendcaller use tht on my moto droid on my evo

OMG !
Google voice + Groove IP = free calls and text
Thank you everyone in this thread.

knightwolf123 said:
OMG !
Google voice + Groove IP = free calls and text
Thank you everyone in this thread.
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Glad to help! Pretty sweet isn't it?? Best $2 I've spent in a long time!

Tmobile $30 Data Plan + SIP + Google Voice = I have this setup wrong

So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!

There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service

Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!

Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.

Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.

pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.

ziddey said:
To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?

[Q] VOIP using Talkatone with Google Voice and Sprint

Hey guys,
I tried searching for anything relating to this and I haven't found anything on this forum or Google thats helpful.
Issue: NO SERVICE!!! I work in a government building that has 0 reception inside (I also work in the basement). I also get almost no reception in my house, but i have an airave so that's resolved for the most part.
I would like to set up VOIP somehow without having to create a new number to give to people. I'm hoping to find someone who has done this already with success.
My thought is to install and set up google voice using my sprint number, and then integrate google voice into talkatone. That way I can call/text over wifi for free because it is still using my sprint number, just over a data connection instead of cell. I'm on a good family plan with a business discount, so this isn't me trying to get out of paying for cell minutes, my bill for 4 people is 200 bucks (we all have premium data). I just want to be able to receive my messages and calls while I'm at work on just a wifi signal. Unfortunately about a month ago my fiancees father unexpectedly passed and I didn't find out until I left work hours later because I never received a message.
If this is a taboo conversation I apologize (if its possible, the resources are already out there) or if nobody knows I understand. I was just hoping for some insight because I've heard complaints with people trying to integrate their sprint number to google voice.

So I took some time and did some individual research of each app and the google voice integration.
Google Voice itself does not all VOIP, which is where talkatone comes in. Most 3rd party VOIP apps require the person you are calling/texting to also have that app, or you need to create a new number through that app and give it out to everybody you want to communicate with over a data connection.
Talkatone works with Google Voice, which is why it's free, and the benefit of being on Sprint is that you can make your Google Voice number your Sprint Mobile number, therefore being able to make free calls and texts over wifi/3g/4g without spending any money. If you decide to go international you would only have to add a credit to google voice for international calls (which is significantly cheaper then the international rate from sprint).
I believe this is a very unknown loophole in sprints eyes that is completely legal and does not break the terms of service. They are the ones who have a contract with Google Voice to allow you to use your own number, then talkatone works on top of google voice to provide VOIP.
In essence I answered my own question, but I hope to have provided some insight to other people that have service issues with sprint.
I welcome anybody who uses this exact set up or just google voice to chime in with any issues they have experienced, or success stories.

I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift

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I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift
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What ive read is that because it works through google voice and google voice isn't considered a "mobile number" then any person you call that has a mobile-to-mobile feature will not take advantage of it, it will actually go towards their minutes. it doesnt hurt you because you arent using any minutes, but it hurts them. especially on a family plan.

Well obviously. It basically lets you use your disconnected device as phone whenever you have wifi.
For real "free" services, each person needs to be in on the same thing.