Is there an app or something that actually tells me what is running I. The background? I'm currently using automatic task killer but I feel that it only kills somethings and not all.
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try system panel. or taskiller
Why do you want to kill the apps? Android will stop them for you if it needs the memory. Hitting the back button at the bottom of your phone should exit you out of the app you're currently in.
What do you have running in the background that's killing your phone so bad?
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Autostarts is a good paid app. Prevents certain apps from ever starting automatically.
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Love autostart.. cheap and on cm6 with stock root I hit 1903 on quad. Also I removed alot of stuff. Almost barebones then installed my 28 apps. Still get average 1800s. +1 for autostart.
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Why do you want to kill the apps? Android will stop them for you if it needs the memory. Hitting the back button at the bottom of your phone should exit you out of the app you're currently in.
What do you have running in the background that's killing your phone so bad?
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You can back out to exit but doesn't shut down the app when you are done with it. Stays in the background. Developers need to start putting close or exit on apps to close and shut down the app instead of leaving it in background. There is 3 parts.. background..foreground.. and cached..
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atypical1 said:
Why do you want to kill the apps? Android will stop them for you if it needs the memory. Hitting the back button at the bottom of your phone should exit you out of the app you're currently in.
What do you have running in the background that's killing your phone so bad?
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The back button closing apps is a large myth for most apps. Some are coded that way but not all. As for the other post about AutoStarts, it is a great app for root users. Just be careful. However, 2.2 is great by itself about managing apps and resources on its own without a 3rd party task killer. I use AutoKiller to tweak Android's own task manager to kill off items sooner. Just because you see an app running does not mean it is using battery or hogging resources. Android is not a Windows device.
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Well the reason I'm asking is because, I am rooted with 2.2 But I still get horrible battery consumption. I thought it might have been all the background apps still running or on standby. I used taskkiller myself but i really don't see a difference.
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Good info on the back button. I always thought that worked for some applications. I don't see how force closing an application can be good for your phone though anymore than force closing a program is great for your computer. But I'm not totally familar with the OS on our phones.
But my understanding about the OS is that it will shut down apps on it's own in case it needs the memory right? And, to your points just having apps open won't necessarily drain the battery.
OP, how's your reception. It's also my understanding that having poor reception will drain your battery worse too. Are you running GPS, wireless, or services that use those resources?
Not at all, I don't even have Bluetooth on. And using system tools I can see that before killing any background apps the phone is using 63% memory when killing the apps its reduced to 42%
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autostarts + system panel + juice defender
Take a little time to learn how they work, one you get them set up you'll be a happy camper.
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autostarts + system panel + juice defender
Take a little time to learn how they work, one you get them set up you'll be a happy camper.
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+1 for system panel. This will tell you not only what processes are running, but will also tell you how much battery and CPU they use (and have used over the past X hours). It's invaluable when trying to find the rogue process that's sapping up your battery.
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I don't know why there should be any problem with killing an app or service through the app manager. I do it frequently. At first I did encounter unexpected results but these are less now as I become more familiar.
I wondered, though, is there a preferred order of stopping and clearing data/cache through the app manager (in 2.2)?
I didn't know there was background/forground/cache difference: in froyo, it appears to me that app manager shows all of those under "running"--is that correct? Also, you can look at services. If a service (calendar, talk, etc.) is running, for example, it could be an obvious thing to stop if you aren't using it. You will see if you log out of the service first, and then check the service list, that it might remain running.
I think when you re-start the device very little starts with it. You can use that as a baseline.
Playing games online realtime is probably the biggest power hog I've found. I sometimes cannot play for even 15 min.
Other days, the device holds juice for more than 24 hrs.
The signal strength seems to be the main variable in my experience. The phone signal strength makes a difference, so does 3G, and 4G even more. It's like there's a threshhold or a revolving time--sorry, I don't know the right term here--but the device goes round and round searching if it thinks some signal is out there or if you trigger an app that calls for it. OTOH, once the device really finds nothing at all it drops everything. It shuts down entirely and you get really great battery life
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I understand the rationale behind not killing tasks, but i checked out the bbc news app earlier, and it runs a service (i could see it via a task manager). I couldn't then kill the service by using the bbc app. Should I be not killing services, and if so, aren't I going to end up potentially running several services unneccessarily?
I don't think there's any harm in killing services if you really want to, but the OS is supposed to do a good job of killing services if another application is in need of the resources being taken up by something you haven't actually used for a while.
Some seem desperate to kill every task possible to save an extra few minutes of battery life though.
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I don't think there's any harm in killing services if you really want to, but the OS is supposed to do a good job of killing services if another application is in need of the resources being taken up by something you haven't actually used for a while.
Some seem desperate to kill every task possible to save an extra few minutes of battery life though.
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I'm happy with the OS doing that sort of thing, but I want control over services which use battery and consume data.
task managers actually end up costing you more battery, having that constantly killing tasks causes them to restart using the CPU which drains the battery. much better to just back out of an app and leave in "idle"
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hager420 said:
task managers actually end up costing you more battery, having that constantly killing tasks causes them to restart using the CPU which drains the battery. much better to just back out of an app and leave in "idle"
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Doesn't really address my question specifically about services, and the data/battery they consume. If I load the BBC news widget/app and it fires off a service to keep the news up to date, then I quit, but I can still see the service running (not sleeping or whatever) then it's using my battery and potentially still get data and I want it to stop. Have you used the BBC news app? Can you see the service running after you've quit the front end? How would you stop it? How about malicious apps?
Since reading that task killers are 'bad' I've got rid of all mine, but I dedided to keep jkAppSwitch on my long press of the search button. Mainly I use it for switching between apps easily but it can be used to manually kill things so that's cool, I rarely kill apps now since what I read here but in special needs circumstances I have that power.
Two birds with one stone and all that.
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Since reading that task killers are 'bad' I've got rid of all mine, but I dedided to keep jkAppSwitch on my long press of the search button. Mainly I use it for switching between apps easily but it can be used to manually kill things so that's cool, I rarely kill apps now since what I read here but in special needs circumstances I have that power.
Two birds with one stone and all that.
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Since my post, I've been playing with Fring, and I've stopped now and logged out. I look at the running services and I can see:
Process: com.fring
CallService
Started by application: touch to stop
Well, I don't want to have to fiddle with settings and kill stuff. I've logged out, then quit (pressed back - there's no 'quit' other than 'log out'). This isn't the only app that does this. I understand entirely the deal with Android managing apps, but it seems that this "service killer":
menu/settings/applications/running services
is required if you want to save cpu time, battery and possibly bandwidth. Should I have to do this? Or is this app badly behaved?
Every time I check my running apps maps is there and it does not want to stop. Since maps is a battery hog I uninstalled it. Why is it always running? What is the best way to control this and other apps so they will start and stop as directed. The market is also runs from time to time. Maps might be started by the network location service. Do I have to edit the init file or?
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Android is not like Windows, killing apps is actually more counterproductive than it is helpful. There is plenty of documentation and explanations about this so I won't bore you, just look it up.
I haven't ran a task killer since about it week after I got my phone, and I noticed that my phone ran better without it, and my battery lasted longer.
Stop constantly worrying about what is running in the background and enjoy your phone.
If you don't want to believe it, you can try an app such as Autostarts. It should do what you're asking.
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There is a paid app called startup manager that I've used for a LONG time to take a lot of apps out of the boot up process.
Maps would be one of them.
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There is a paid app called startup manager that I've used for a LONG time to take a lot of apps out of the boot up process.
Maps would be one of them.
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Maps has a lot of receivers and start up conditions, get Gemini App Manager, and Autorun Manager. Using both of these and you will be able to stop it from starting on its own. With Gemini, you can change all it's start up conditions(package added/removed, boot, connectivity changed, etc), and you can disable/enable receivers with AutoRun manager.
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Everytime I check my running apps maps is there and it does not want to stop. Since maps is a battery hog I uninstalled it. Why is it always running? What is the best way to control this and other apps so they will start and stop as directed. The market is also runs from time to time. Maps might be started by the network location service. Do I have to edit the init file or?
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Does it show up on your list of battery usage? Mine is always running but never shows up on the list... Running apps don't take battery unless they are actually using the CPU...
i had that problem too. what i did was go into the ALL tab n kill it to stop it. if i killed it from the RUNNING tab it would just restart. don't know y but thats how it worked for me...
If i keep tying to rapid kill maps it will eventully die. However, I might inadvertantly kill something else in the process.
I just do not see any reason that I need to be consistantly mapped. I will have to look at the battery consumption and the app managers are interesting. I have not used a task killer in quite some time. I would think that anything that runs this much has to bun some battery and responsiveness along the line somewhere.
Lately the phone started to light itself on every ~2 minutes or sometimes it stops for a while and randomly does it again.
I usually place it next to my TV desk or on my computer one, is that the cause? If so, is it in any way harmful?
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maybe some app is running in background......
maybe because of some background apps
Like the two people above me said check which apps are running in the background. I don't really know much, but maybe Better Battery Stats app will help. It's in the market. I use it to check which apps keep waking up my device and preventing it to deep sleep, thus draining battery.
Well I press the Home button a few times and even open the Task Manager to see if anything is running and there's nothing. :s
Task manager doesn't show apps running in the background.
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Goto
Settings>> Applications>>Running Services
there you will find all the apps running in background
check which application(not stock core applications ) are running end any third party app and see if it helps
Install better battery status and check the partial wakelogs to know which app is conflicting
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Thanks everyone. I think there was some left out stuff I forgot to end.
Answers below....please....
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if u go to option on the phone and development u see kill all background or 1 or 2 or 3 etc i choce to close the aplication right after i use cuz i think running in the background kill the battery idk that just me
I would leave it alone
I don't have any evidence supporting my claims so I won't say them but this phone is awesome
No need to play with hose settings
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It uses more cpu power to open frequently used apps after you "kill" them rather than leave them running suspended in the background. More cpu usage = faster battery drain.
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Everything about it is a con. When you close out an app it takes more battery power to reload it from a dead stop than to just continue it from it's previous state. There's no 'gain' by killing it. Sure, you get more RAM but this isn't Windows so having more RAM isn't a necessity. The phone will kill an app as needed when the RAM runs low. Normally when it kills it all it does is cache it so while you have to 'restart' it, the app usually continues from it's previous state. It just takes slightly longer than when it's in the RAM.
Yes, there may be some apps that will continue to run at full speed as opposed to a suspended state but you have to figure out which of your apps do that and kill them accordingly. Most however, do not act like that.
When it comes to Android/Linux you have to take what you know about Windows and scrub it. They are polar opposites on how they handle memory.
As much as I love my GS3, the battery life is pitiful, lately. Whenever I kill RAM, its always like "50-something applications killed" and I suspect this drains my battery. I go to app manager, and see tons of apps I have to force stop. The phone, while better than the Atrix and Photon I had, should have better battery life. Are there any task killer apps, which work like the Motorola built in one? Those were great. And I want to be connected always to the internet, I barely use wifi anyway except to download/update apps. Thats why I don't do "Juice Defender." Or anyone know if Jelly Bean will improve things?
Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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If it is doesn't have an option to "force stop", it means it is NOT running, even in background, and has no background process associated with it. It has been prefetched and placed in memory, so it is readily available when you want it.
It takes the same amount of energy to hold something unused in ram as it does to hold nothing.
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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Both, great suggestions, I recommend rom fool box pro, or lite. It has a auto start and receiver tweeter, file manager in it is awesome. Worth the money.
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