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[Q] msm72k

From searching around I believe our phone uses the 72k right. So is a open psjailbreak port doable for this phone? Why or why not? Thanks
Russ

focus400hp said:
From searching around I believe our phone uses the 72k right. So is a open psjailbreak port doable for this phone? Why or why not? Thanks
Russ
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I wasn't aware the recent PS3 hack was related to 72k otherwise I might have an answer for you already.
In the event that you're still around at this moment: what does the jailbreak do, exactly? Does it unlock NAND or does it give us ring 0 access?

nbetcher said:
Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I wasn't aware the recent PS3 hack was related to 72k otherwise I might have an answer for you already.
In the event that you're still around at this moment: what does the jailbreak do, exactly? Does it unlock NAND or does it give us ring 0 access?
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Nevermind - I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant that this exploit somehow allowed us to access our bootloader, but CR made me realize that you just want to be able to use the Slide to exploit the PS3? Bah, sorry, not interested personally. Not sure why using a flash drive is so difficult
EDIT: if you can't use a flash drive then I'm sorry. If I had a PS3 to test this I might be bored enough to port it, but I'm not. Also, Sony already released a new mandatory firmware upgrade that defeats this exploit, so if you want to play games on PSN, you're screwed.

yea im waiting for usb to arrive, that is not my problem just thought it would be cool to be able to use my phone. as well the firmware update checks can be bypassed with a simple change of dns adress or with a proxy tool. just wondering why it could or couldnt be ported. i am new to android but love my rooted slide. would like to learn more about the community and if someone decides to port i may not be much help but would like to be involved in the process just for the learning experience

focus400hp said:
[...] just thought it would be cool to be able to use my phone. [...] just wondering why it could or couldnt be ported.
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effort in > advantage out, meaning that the amount of work to port this isn't worth it to most of us just for a 'coolness' factor.

that PS3 hack is going to ruin the PS3, just wait and see. Sony won the lawsuit against the AUS companies, just a matter of time before they win against the USA companies and the bans start rolling out.
glad I sold my PS3 and gave up on games a long time ago.

The PS3 jailbreak will only support the PSP & USB flash drive and that's it. Im guessing you own one of those right?

There are custom built kernels and roms for the jailbreak already for the nexus one, milestone, dream and various other devices including a TI-84 calculator version.
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nikol4s said:
There are custom built kernels and roms for the jailbreak already for the nexus one, milestone, dream and various other devices including a TI-84 calculator version.
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Sorry, haven't been up to date with Andro, been busy with school lately...Just saw this article http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/05/ps3-jailbreak-adapted-to-nokia-n900-palm-pre-in-wake-of-austral/
Hope dumfuq can implement this for us too.

yes im interested in this too... i was looking at the source to try and compile it with slide kernel but it was confusing haha ill leave it to the pros.....

Cyanogenmod Security changes

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...

Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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mauricehall said:
Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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CM9 will come with root access turned off (from the rom) by default. There is a new option so that you can turn root on be it for
Disabled,
Enabled for ADB only
Enabled for Apps only
Enabled for both.
That's all this really is.

Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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CharlyDigital said:
Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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You CAN enable ADB root using ADB which almost seems like a security flaw ADB root access is off by default as well.
But from what I have read ADB will not be required to set this. It just has to be changed by the user from the development options.

I have been wondering about this for a looooooong time. When we root our devices we are voluntarily opening up the biggest hole possible. I'm glad to see it addressed in such a practical manner.

Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.

kthejoker20 said:
Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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....maybe it's just the devices you've owned?
Ask someone with an OG droid, or someone with an Evo, or a Hero, or a GSM Samsung Anything....Hell, CM7 is fantastic on my Nook Color....Cm9 is too, though--I don't remember--I think It's a kang....
The only issue I've had has been with CDMA Samsung handsets...
EDIT: I guess what I mean to say is, there is so much to support that unless you have one of the heavily supported (or easily supported) devices then the fact that it boots up and works at all should be impressive enough.....On all the above mentioned devices I had a nearly flawless experience far preferable to stock....and even with the CM7 kangs (though I haven't tried the CM9s yet). I'm not so sure we'll ever get official support at this rate, though I'm not convinced that's a death sentence. Bubby's Cm7 was working nearly flawlessly for me, aside from a scant few mildly irritating bugs....

kthejoker20 said:
Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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I saw nightlies left and right on my OG Evo and though the E4GT may not get official CM7 support, We'll surely get offical CM9.
They couldn't get much done for a while because they were using older servers that couldn't keep up. Now they have nightlies going on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Xoom, Asus Transformer, Asus Transformer Prime, and the HP Touchpad.
I'm sure we'll get nightlies soon enough and you'll be seeing official functioning ROM's everywhere.
We already have functional CM9.
What is AOKP built on anyway?

Ophois said:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...
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I think they're trying to go mainstream, maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.

phatmanxxl said:
maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.
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Problem is the root is still easily accessible. You would see them providing rooting methods for their own software before you saw that. The carriers would also want nothing to do with it. The manufacturer still has the concern of warranty while the carriers have the concern of tethering etc. Carriers likely would never reject an entire manufacturers line, they will always have to cave to some things they do not like.
Though selling unlocked devices with CM much as PC manufacturers will sell hardware with alternative operating systems isn't outrageous. As for the concern of warranty and software caused damage. Routers for example have set a precedent in the support of custom firmware while maintaining warranty. There is plenty of unbricking support in routers. Though providing accessible jtag interfaces in devices that would be sold both retail and unlocked would probably be interesting. Thats just a need in a worst case scenario though not required.
They do seem to be moving in that direction for whatever intent or purpose.

[Q] I'm surprised devs are still working on this device

I meandered on to the development section and was quite surprised to see such recent ROMS and developers working on a cell phone that is turning 3 years old in 5 months. Many EVO buyers have had their contracts expire and are able to upgrade to a new phone. There are much faster phones out there, with better specs that are possibly more interesting to develop for, because you might reach a larger user base. My question to the Devs is why are you sticking to the original EVO? Don't get me wrong, I am a current original EVO owner myself so by all means, keep up the good work, just curious as to why you stuck to such an old device.

Simple answer is its fun! Its a great way to get practice and many devs have friends in the forum. So why walk away completely? If you still have it, you can test away on things you try to build.
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Haha, so the EVO is just a scapegoat for developers that don't want to brick their actual device?

Boomchaos said:
Haha, so the EVO is just a scapegoat for developers that don't want to brick their actual device?
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Accidental thanks :banghead: in some cases, no. But I actually have less a reason to not flash everything in sight, if you catch my drift..
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Also the EVO is, and always has been a great Device. Why walk away from it when it still viable, and as stated hellua fun. The proof is in the pudding. Look at the support, and Rom Development available
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

If I could boil it down to a sentence it would be... The Evo is a great device to build for.
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4.2 on the OG is more functional than 4.2 on the Jewel. And I need the 4.2 Bluetooth stack. So . . . yeah . Thus the reason my OG is listed as Device 1 in my sig .

Hell, Devs are still working on the Samsung Moment

Sprint htc evo 4g
i bought a sprint htc evo 4g that i bought from amazon ... i cant use sprint in my country and i cant unlock a sprint phone since itc cdma right?... but can i just leave the phone like with sprint but root it and play wiith iit because the only reason i bought it was to learn everything about rooting and i needed a test device...??

There are jelly bean ROMS for the OG? Are all the radios working?
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4.2 on the OG is more functional than 4.2 on the Jewel. And I need the 4.2 Bluetooth stack. So . . . yeah . Thus the reason my OG is listed as Device 1 in my sig .
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Wow, that was released in 2009...
HipKat said:
Hell, Devs are still working on the Samsung Moment
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Sure. Since you don't have service on the phone, it's basically a really small tablet. All the basic functionality will work, and there is always WiFi.
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i bought a sprint htc evo 4g that i bought from amazon ... i cant use sprint in my country and i cant unlock a sprint phone since itc cdma right?... but can i just leave the phone like with sprint but root it and play wiith iit because the only reason i bought it was to learn everything about rooting and i needed a test device...??
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There are jelly bean ROMS for the OG? Are all the radios working?
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I'm not sure what you're asking. Please, be specific. The ROM is fully functional outside of the things that require new drivers for Android 4.x, i.e. front-facing camera, and WiMAX.

Boomchaos said:
Wow, that was released in 2009...
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Yep and over on XDA-Developers, it's the most actively dev'd device still. It was the Evo of it's time

HipKat said:
Yep and over on XDA-Developers, it's the most actively dev'd device still. It was the Evo of it's time
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It's actually SDX Developers...and yes the Moment was the "Evo" of it's time, sadly however, it's time has passed. I'm a new convert over to XDA from SDX, having to give last rites to my Moment a month ago. Really only one active ROM still being worked on (UberMoment 1.6 - props to TheTehk17 for hanging in there :good: ). They never got a GB Rom fully functional (CM7 was close), all dev was, and still is, Froyo. Major hardware limitations and lack of support will probably keep any further ROM upgrades forthcoming.
Inherited an OG to use for now - great to see all the work being done! Waiting for the arrival of the S4 or M7 for upgrade, until then enjoying the plethora of ROM's available!
Upon upgrade, I will be passing the OG on to any dev here who will continue to put it to good use!

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It's actually SDX Developers...and yes the Moment was the "Evo" of it's time, sadly however, it's time has passed. I'm a new convert over to XDA from SDX, having to give last rites to my Moment a month ago. Really only one active ROM still being worked on (UberMoment 1.6 - props to TheTehk17 for hanging in there :good: ). They never got a GB Rom fully functional (CM7 was close), all dev was, and still is, Froyo. Major hardware limitations and lack of support will probably keep any further ROM upgrades forthcoming.
Inherited an OG to use for now - great to see all the work being done! Waiting for the arrival of the S4 or M7 for upgrade, until then enjoying the plethora of ROM's available!
Upon upgrade, I will be passing the OG on to any dev here who will continue to put it to good use!
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lol.. brain fart
Yeah, I never thought the Moment could successfully run Froyo, unless there was a hybrid Froyo/GB Rom. I dev'd a nice ROM for the Moment, but I think I took all the links down a few months ago.

HipKat said:
lol.. brain fart
Yeah, I never thought the Moment could successfully run Froyo, unless there was a hybrid Froyo/GB Rom. I dev'd a nice ROM for the Moment, but I think I took all the links down a few months ago.
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The devs did a pretty good job porting over Froyo ROMs from the Intercept and Transform, and got those pretty functional. Otherwise, the phone would have been stuck on 2.1 Eclair! As mentioned, they have a somewhat working CM7 - buggy, but it does boot up.! The dev that ported that moved on leaving no one to work out the kinks.
So, for me, I'm like a kid in a candy store with not only GB Roms, but ICS, JB, AOSP.......and Sense too! Hell, I'm in hog heaven

lol. yeah, you can flash a different ROM every day for a year, going back to 2.1 if you wanted to

HipKat said:
lol. yeah, you can flash a different ROM every day for a year, going back to 2.1 if you wanted to
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lol - I might have to hold out on that upgrade until I get this "flashing" urge under control..........
Will be interesting to see when the S4/M7 debuts, how long it takes to get dev going on each

i'm glad dev's have kept this phone up to date its alot of fun

[Q] Porting Android TV to Amazon Fire TV

Does anyone know how this can be done?

Not yet. AFAIK android tv isn't released.
The fact of the custom recovery doesn't get around the locked bootloader, either. There are approaches to the problem which have been used on other devices, but last I looked this device was rootable (in its early generation) but not yet upgradeable.

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Not yet. AFAIK android tv isn't released.
The fact of the custom recovery doesn't get around the locked bootloader, either. There are approaches to the problem which have been used on other devices, but last I looked this device was rootable (in its early generation) but not yet upgradeable.
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its just getting someone with the know how and want to take it on. Someone has ported it to the ouya.. the port uses cm11 as a base then u flash the android tv package over top, i read its buggy as heck tho and a wip to get things functioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ouya/general/rom-android-tv-ouya-t2895293

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its just getting someone with the know how and want to take it on. Someone has ported it to the ouya.. the port uses cm11 as a base then u flash the android tv package over top, i read its buggy as heck tho and a wip to get things functioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ouya/general/rom-android-tv-ouya-t2895293
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I did try a quick and dirty port of ADT-1 and it was a massive failure. I may take a look at this at some point.

nhumber said:
its just getting someone with the know how and want to take it on. Someone has ported it to the ouya.. the port uses cm11 as a base then u flash the android tv package over top, i read its buggy as heck tho and a wip to get things functioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ouya/general/rom-android-tv-ouya-t2895293
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buggy as heck and wip - and on a device with an unlockable bootloader and a lot of folks who bought via kickstarter intending to mod it.
no disrespect to the folks who are working their butts off on the ftv, but you rarely
get a solid cm11 daily driver even with an unlocked device right away, with only one dev working - and that's with cm, where there are a lot of good build guides and a userbase ready to help test and get logs.
with the ftv, look at the number of folks complaining about xbmc on the box.
xbmc works extremely well and with root makes a viable launcher replacement. its my launcher on the system, and I'm beyond pleased with it, given that the system is completely different in use than what the vendor intended.
does it get stuck now and again? yep.
I paid how much for xbmc? for root?
some of the tone here would be fine in a vendor's support forums, but posting about how there's trial and error and glitches in a dev forum?
now, think how much fun it'd be to have a wip rom posted here and need to patiently wade through folks acting like they were entitled to bug-free consumer grade software at no cost and with zero elbow grease involved in setting it up...

No tones or complaining here.. Just was answering the question. Is it possible? Yes. How? I stated how it was done on the ouya. The unlocked bootloader is irrelevant since we have a workaround from rbox, who I'm greatly appreciative of.

New root exploit soon?

https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/117742/
There's no exploit example, but maybe there's a new hope for getting root on the Fire TV Stick and newer Fire TVs. Can anyone confirm the Fire TV has the vulnerable code?

This is very exciting! Crossing my fingers!

Oh boy. This one is BIG. If the Fire TV uses this library, it's just a matter of time.
http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1474/

Exciting news!!!

Sizzlechest said:
Oh boy. This one is BIG. If the Fire TV uses this library, it's just a matter of time.
http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1474/
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But if I read this right this affects only 5.0 devices. And AFTV is not 5.0 AFAIK.

Ultraschorsch said:
But if I read this right this affects only 5.0 devices. And AFTV is not 5.0 AFAIK.
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You didn't read it right. It affects 5.0 and below.

Sizzlechest said:
You didn't read it right. It affects 5.0 and below.
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Yes, I read through the Android 4.4 sourcecode. The bug is already there. Unfortunately I am no CXX and security expert, so I hope someone else writes an exploit. Should not be too hard.

Not to discount any other dev, but rbox seems to be the guy that would know if its poossible. He seems to be the man when it comes to the Fire TV. Why not just ask rbox? He can probably give you a straight foward answer and you wouldn't have to speculate anymore. Just ask rbox, cause I am pretty sure he would know if it would work.

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Not to discount any other dev, but rbox seems to be the guy that would know if its poossible. He seems to be the man when it comes to the Fire TV. Why not just ask rbox? He can probably give you a straight foward answer and you wouldn't have to speculate anymore. Just ask rbox, cause I am pretty sure he would know if it would work.
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You mention @rbox so many times, but you don't really mention him at the same time. Want his attention? Mention @rbox

its still not going to fix the efuse. amazon really lost my support when that happened.. fireTV is a bedroom box now and i've moved to the 100$ M8 amlogic box running openelec.. if you want something for pure XBMC this is a much better option and fully supports different refresh rates.

Right it won't fix the efuse but I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one still using the old firmware without efuse and hoping for software root...

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You mention @rbox so many times, but you don't really mention him at the same time. Want his attention? Mention @rbox
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I do not want his attention at all. I was simply informing people that if they wanna a quick reliable answer that rbox would probably be the one to ask. I have said several times that I could care less about rooting my Fire TV. I just know how these threads pan out, they usually end up in arguements over wheather or not its possible, so I was trying to give them a quick solution to their question. If they wanna now if its possible they could probably get an answer from rbox and there would be no more speculation and nobody would have to eventually get mad when someone says it won't work. He is a reliable source so why wouldn't they wanna ask him? If I mention him it means I mentioned him period. Yes I mentiond him, cause without a doubt he is probably considered the top dev for the Fire TV. No harm in mentioning him or trying to point people in the right direction to ge an answer. If they ask him today and he responds with a definative answer today, they have their answer and there will be no more wondering.

From what I read, this alone isn't enough to gain root. You need to combine this with other exploit(s) to get it. I've read that there is a forthcoming proof of concept that uses it. So we just have to wait and see. But... hope is not lost totally for people with the fire tv with the fuse blown. Before I had the unlock working, I was working on safestrap for the fire tv. Safestrap allows you to boot to recovery with a locked bootloader. So if this results in root for the newer firetvs with the blown fuse, making a safestrap package is a possibility. No promises on when or if it would actually happen. As for that happening with the stick... highly unlikely (from me) because it's a completely different architecture from the Fire TV.

rbox said:
From what I read, this alone isn't enough to gain root. You need to combine this with other exploit(s) to get it. I've read that there is a forthcoming proof of concept that uses it. So we just have to wait and see. But... hope is not lost totally for people with the fire tv with the fuse blown. Before I had the unlock working, I was working on safestrap for the fire tv. Safestrap allows you to boot to recovery with a locked bootloader. So if this results in root for the newer firetvs with the blown fuse, making a safestrap package is a possibility. No promises on when or if it would actually happen. As for that happening with the stick... highly unlikely (from me) because it's a completely different architecture from the Fire TV.
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RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?

E--Man said:
RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?
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I had googled the CVE number and found a thread on one of the samsung forums here that they were discussing it.

E--Man said:
RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?
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This thread is full of Samsung Note 4 users salivating for a new root exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/galaxy-note-4-root-progress-t2961974/page111

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This thread is full of Samsung Note 4 users salivating for a new root exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/galaxy-note-4-root-progress-t2961974/page111
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Ahh yes, because the AT&T ones come with a locked Bootloader I heard about that... They (we) all deserve it too because we paid for the device!
If the method to root is similar *and* it is possible, then its just a matter of time...

Watch defy. Closed bootloader is sad.
But no Problem at all.
2nd init is long time happened
We need the right dev.
Quarks is the superman
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E--Man said:
Ahh yes, because the AT&T ones come with a locked Bootloader I heard about that... They (we) all deserve it too because we paid for the device!
If the method to root is similar *and* it is possible, then its just a matter of time...
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Just because you buy a device does not mean that you deserve to be able to do something that the makers of it never intended it to do. Its like someone goin out and buying an RX7 and saying it deserves to go faster than a Lambo. Any mildly intelligent person would have never bought the Mazda if they wanted it to outrun a Lambo, cause they would know ahead of time its not made to outrun a Lambo. I can understand why people wanna root. I even have rooted devices, but to get mad because you cannot root a device makes zero sense. You knew Amazon did not want you to root it before you bought it, so why complain now? You deserve many things in life simply by being human, but a rooted Fire TV is not on the list of things that anyone deserves. Look at it like this, if root never comes too the newer firmwares, you will forget about when you buy your next device. I must admit I was kinda irked when I read that some Fire TVs cannot be rooted, but i took my chances and bought it anyway, and now I have a nonrootable device, and its absoluely not a big deal. I knew ahead of time what I was getting into and if I get root one day that will be fine, but if I don't I am still fine wiith that too. My Fire TV does everything I need it to do without root so its really not a big deal. I have noticed after I got a little older that the alure of cool apps and cool mods have worn away. I no longer care how cool my Android devices look or what cool tweaks I can use, I simply just want a device that does what its supposed to do. I have done so much "cool stuff" on Android devices that I am actually burnt out. I don't even carry my cell anymore. I have a Galaxy Note that has never been outside except for when UPS dropped it off. Trust me, not having root for your Android device is not gonna have any negative effects on your life if it does not happen.

porkenhimer said:
Just because you buy a device does not mean that you deserve to be able to do something that the makers of it never intended it to do. Its like someone goin out and buying an RX7 and saying it deserves to go faster than a Lambo. Any mildly intelligent person would have never bought the Mazda if they wanted it to outrun a Lambo, cause they would know ahead of time its not made to outrun a Lambo.
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That is a terrible example. Since we buy the devices we should be able to do what we want with them, similar with cars. We buy cars and since we bought them, we can customize them as we wish. Last I checked, there was nothing in place from stopping me from popping the hood open and doing what I wish with the engine or interior.
Your poor example is akin to saying I bought a cheap outdated phone like an Alcatel and saying it deserves to be faster than an HTC One M8. Learn to troll better.