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Hi im running this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
and i have recieved a notification for new software update (the one with better russian keyboard) and i tried downloading but it didnt work. Is it possible to do this (im rooted with unrevoked)? Also would i lose my root? i dont care if i do, im more interested in getting the new update and unrooting, thanks
yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.
i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?
cgrec92 said:
yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.
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It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...
adbirdie said:
i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?
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You shouldn't try to install OTA updates to rooted phones. It usually won't work.
If you want the new version you can either install an RUU with the official version and then root, or you can install a newer rooted stock ROM through recovery.
yaaaaa bout that im on a mac, tehehe, and i dont mind losing my root
^havent heard of an ruu working on mac
The easiest thing for you to do is install a new custom ROM that is based on the new version (mine and a couple of others).
teppic74 said:
It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...
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hence the third line of my post.
what if i just wanted the update and i didnt want my root tho?
Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
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do i have to download the system update first, and then it will become update.zip, or is already do, can u walk me step by step through?
update: i tried what u said elmalote and it didnt work, what do i do now????
The ROM you are on has been updated with the latest OTA now so I'm not sure why you want to go another way than just flashing that ?
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the ota didnt go throught properly, i did what elmalote said, but it said installation aborted
elmalote said:
Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
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Is it a fully safe way to try install OTA update over the rooted ROM? I have branded ROM rooted using unrEVOked and I would like to try to install OTA update this way.
it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
does any one know how to install ota on a rooted phone
adbirdie said:
it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
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I'm not so sure about that. I've looked into OTA update downloaded into sd-card and it contains:
- system updates (new files, patches and so on)
- recovery img
- hboot update
- radio image
So let's assume that I toogle verification process (turn it off). OTA update will install over rooted ROM. After this, I have new recovery (because OTA update contains it).
I can see possibility of bricking my phone, when following situation appears:
- OS doesn't start-up (fell into boot-loop, whatever)
- recovery is back to stock, so no possibility to restore from nandroid backups
What do you think about that? Can someone confirm this is safe/dangerous?
Barthand, relax, i tried this, and i just rebooted my phone and it was fine. if you don't want to do it, then don't, but don't fret. it didn't work for me but it didn't screw up my phone either, now back to the main problem does anyone else have any solutions to install ota on a rooted phone.
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Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
zljk said:
Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
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That will never happen with the GN. When you own this phone you're first in line for the updates until the next is coming out then you're second but still faster than the others.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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If my experiences with my OG Droid match up with the Nexus line, if you've only rooted and haven't actually installed another ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update and lose root because of it. Then just root again.
martonikaj said:
When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
zljk said:
I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
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The alternate way to get official Nexus updates is to download the update zip file once someone copies it off their device and uploads it, and install it in whatever fashion works.
I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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It will often download and you can try but it will either fail, unroot you, or cause troubles.
You're best off applying the pre-rooted update, or unrooting and taking the OTA.
martonikaj said:
When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
blunden said:
True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
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Of course, as is often the case for most phones supported here on XDA. the rooted OTA comes in the form of a .zip soon after it comes out.
slowz3r said:
you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
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When flashing the rooted OTA via recovery, does it wipe the phone (apps and all)?
Also for the other method, when unrooting >> applying OTA >> rooting again, does it wipe the phone at any point during this process?
Help would be appreciated and rewarded!
I just received my OTA update notification and found the update zip itself in the cache of my phone. I can post that update zip here if a mod can come along and tell me where to put it. I am going to wait till I'm home so I can have my rooting facilities handy before starting.
phazerorg said:
I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
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+1. Exactly.
There is a lot of wrong (or slightly incorrect) information in this thread.
Have root has no impact whatsoever in your ability to receive or apply the OTA update. This has been the case on every Android device. However, if you have a custom recovery flashed, you will not be able to automatically apply the update - you will have to find the zip file in the cache and use your custom recovery to apply it.
On a slightly separate note, once you apply the update either automatically or manually via custom recovery, you will lose root. However, if you do have a custom recovery, as long as you flash ChainsDD's superuser package immediately after applying the update, but before rebooting, you will retain root.
On another separate not, if you flash the update as is from Google, it includes a file (/system/recovery-from-boot.p) that re-flashes the stock recovery on every boot, so you will lose your custom recovery. Either remove the file before flashing the update, or just re-flash your custom recovery.
I am putting together a quick guide on how to update your Stock ROM, Rooted, custom recovery T-Mo GSIII without having to wipe your phone.
You will need:
- Kies (If your phone has not prompted you to install the OTA yet, Kies will download and attempt to install it for you) (http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c.../20120809103126135/Kies_2.3.2.12074_13_13.exe)
- ODIN 3.7 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1270006&stc=1&d=1345396888)
- STOCK T-Mo GSIII recovery.img (I extracted this from the stock ODIN image for T-Mo) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1269983&stc=1&d=1345396186)
- TWRP or CWM ODIN Flash-able recovery (CWM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1269979&stc=1&d=1345396186 , TWRP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1269980&stc=1&d=1345396186)
- Recovery flashable SuperSU root package (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1269984&stc=1&d=1345396186)
SO, place your phone in download mode (Vol Down + Home + Power), and via ODIN, flash the "Stock-Recovery-Image(Working T-Mobile T999).tar" image. ( This is putting the stock recovery back on your phone so the update can install).
When it reboots, either select yes to allow the OTA update to install (if your phone is already aware there is an update) on your phone, OR plug you phone into your PC and allow Kies to prompt you to update your firmware. Select yes and allow the OTA to install.
Once completed, your phone is updated without having to wipe, but you have lost root and customer recovery, so.....
Again, in Download mode, Flash either of the provided ODIN flash-able custom recoveries (TWRP, or CWM) I prefer TWRP
Once that is complete, you can reboot your phone into the new recovery (Vol UP + Home + Power)
Once in recovery, flash the SuperSU.zip package and Voila, all done, Triangle away and you in cool runnings.
Let me know if I need to clarify anything here. It makes sense to me, but then again, I fumbled through it to figure it out and extract the right recoveries and set permissions etc.....
Please hit the thanks button if this helped you in any way
Hans
Nice instructions, but I'm going to wait a few days. I'm want to see if the dev that did the flash and root without tripping the flash counter will do the same for the new firmware. I'm still not too keen on custom recoveries yet even though I backed up my IMEI, so I just want to be rooted. If not, I'll use your guide.:good:
Wildchld already released it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838101
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DocHoliday77 said:
Wildchld already released it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838101
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But with Wildchild's it's a complete ROM (650-700MB), correct? Are you not wiping when you flash his?
Actually I'm not 100% that you need to do a full wipe, but I'm guessing you probably should. Depends on what's different. You can always nabdroid and give it a shot. I will later if I have time.
Anyway, I was more responding to the post above mine about stock with root than to the op. Sorry if shoulda been a little more clear on that.
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i might wait. finally got google now and google wallet working and i dont want to mess it up lol
RotaryXperiment7 said:
i might wait. finally got google now and google wallet working and i dont want to mess it up lol
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What did you have to modify to get them working? Like I said before, I made this little method so you did not have to wipe your phone to get the OTA installed.
The only thing I could see that would cause the OTA to break wallet, or Google now would be that if you have to modify pieces in the /system/ directory that would be overwritten. The only thing I had to do after updating was re-flash my little installer for international boot image, re-remove Carrier IQ as it was added back, and revert the googlesearch.apk to the earlier backed up version (functioning unified search) with titanium. Outside of that I run a pretty tight ship as far as system modifications go outside of root and root privileged programs.
had to edit build pro for wallet
Thanks op, this worked great for me! Updated and rooted again...
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I tried several times but couldent unroot my phone. I even tried through the root kit by mskip. I think the problem may be that I got my phone unlocked, not using an unlock code but some other method (all I know about this method is that my phone says"restricted access" for a few seconds upon restarting.)
Any suggestions on how to unroot? Also, if I unroot, will I loose the unlock?
pappuhathi said:
I tried several times but couldent unroot my phone. I even tried through the root kit by mskip. I think the problem may be that I got my phone unlocked, not using an unlock code but some other method (all I know about this method is that my phone says"restricted access" for a few seconds upon restarting.)
Any suggestions on how to unroot? Also, if I unroot, will I loose the unlock?
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I think the best method to unroot your phone will be to ODIN it back to the stock T-Mobile image. (Overwrites EVERYTHING, probably your unlock as well).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737855
Above is the link to the stock image.
Apologies, in general, but I feel you may have the wrong thread if your looking to unroot your phone. That is off topic on what is being discussed here.
has anyone tried this and kept google wallet and google now working? Any troubles?
I'm wanting to update but I'm rooted withthose two apps finally up and running.
arts711 said:
has anyone tried this and kept google wallet and google now working? Any troubles?
I'm wanting to update but I'm rooted withthose two apps finally up and running.
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I would assume the build.prop file will be overwritten. So its possible you would need to modify after updating. May not be any way around it.
If you want to test for others, make nandroid backup , upgrade and test. If it works, update us. If not, update us
cybrnook said:
I would assume the build.prop file will be overwritten. So its possible you would need to modify after updating. May not be any way around it.
If you want to test for others, make nandroid backup , upgrade and test. If it works, update us. If not, update us
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So (in case this all doesn't work out) to restore via nandroid, just root and apply right?
cybrnook said:
I would assume the build.prop file will be overwritten. So its possible you would need to modify after updating. May not be any way around it.
If you want to test for others, make nandroid backup , upgrade and test. If it works, update us. If not, update us
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You are correct about build.prop being overwritten.
Sent from my rooted T-Mo SGS3.
If I've helped you, be sure to use the thanks button!
arts711 said:
So (in case this all doesn't work out) to restore via nandroid, just root and apply right?
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Well if it doesn't work (Which I think it won't), you don't need to worry about restoring root. You just need to flash a custom recovery to revert your nandroid backup. Your root and customization will come back with that.
But with some of the added features that come with the update, I would say don't look back. Upgrade to the latest, then reapply your customization to get wallet and all working again.
IF you have to revert your nandroid back, make sure to do a factory wipe before you revert to your backup.
thanks! i'll give it a shot this weekend once i get more time.
I've used two different versions of Odin and two different T-Mobile stock recoveries (other one is here), and I can't get stock recovery to replace CWM on my GS3. Odin reports that the flash is successful, but when it reboots, ROM Manager still shows me as having latest CWM Touch, and the T-Mo update fails. I'm attempting the update via Kies right now, but I anticipate failure due to CWM still being installed as recovery.
-- I have Cerberus anti-theft installed, but I don't see anything about protecting recovery.
-- I have Busybox installed, but that shouldn't affect recovery.
Any ideas?
EDIT: Interestingly enough, where the OTA update failed, the Kies update went smooth as silk. Now to re-root and remove bloatware!
RaymondPJR said:
Nice instructions, but I'm going to wait a few days. I'm want to see if the dev that did the flash and root without tripping the flash counter will do the same for the new firmware. I'm still not too keen on custom recoveries yet even though I backed up my IMEI, so I just want to be rooted. If not, I'll use your guide.:good:
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Are you referring to MrRobinson's rooting method? I'm waiting for it too.
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Im unable to update. I used Odin to flash the stock recovery, then downloaded the update via settings-> about device-> software update. Installing reboots the phone but then fails and reverts to current state. I can't update through kies also bc it just says "connecting", no errors. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling drivers but kies never completes connecting. Any help?
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EDIT: I uninstalled all my samsung drivers and Kies from "Programs and Features" in win7, deleted Samsung folders from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and HKEY_CURRENT_USER. Reinstalled Kies and connected my phone to install the drivers. Kies was stuck in the connecting loop still, so I unmounted my sd card, turned on USB debugging and Kies finally connected and asked to upgrade. Upgrading at this moment.
Hey all,
My girlfriend lives in Russia and she been having a ton of issues with her phone.
I guided her thru the phone unlocking bootloader and installing a recovery but she refused to continue my lesson over the phone on helping her install a new rom. So we just left it were it was and this was months ago.
I don't think she has super user access and all I really know is she has CWM installed. She has a system update, but when she tries to install it just goes to CWM. I am not sure what is wrong with her phone, but even after a factory reset, it is slow and things get buggy all the time and lately is been getting worse so I wanted to continue this process of installing a new ROM.
My question is how do I make sure she has bootloader really unlocked, s-off and if its rooted.
I want to continue helping her install a rom but without her being here, I am scared to proceed further without asking the community some questions.
jaytxvo said:
Hey all,
My girlfriend lives in Russia and she been having a ton of issues with her phone.
I guided her thru the phone unlocking bootloader and installing a recovery but she refused to continue my lesson over the phone on helping her install a new rom. So we just left it were it was and this was months ago.
I don't think she has super user access and all I really know is she has CWM installed. She has a system update, but when she tries to install it just goes to CWM. I am not sure what is wrong with her phone, but even after a factory reset, it is slow and things get buggy all the time and lately is been getting worse so I wanted to continue this process of installing a new ROM.
My question is how do I make sure she has bootloader really unlocked, s-off and if its rooted.
I want to continue helping her install a rom but without her being here, I am scared to proceed further without asking the community some questions.
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Go to bootloader then see the top. If it says unlocked, well it is. But if you have cwm, 99% the bootloader IS unlocked. (Unless you didn't relock it again). To see if she is rooted, go to the app drswr and search for anything like superuser or superSU. Hope this helped
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She does have super user or superSU in the app drawer, but when she tries to use an app that requires root. It is not allowed nor does it ask permission in superSU.
Thanks!
If she has CWM recovery installed, ask her to install the SuperSU from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Flash the CWM-SuperSU-v0.96.zip in recovery.
jaytxvo said:
She has a system update, but when she tries to install it just goes to CWM.
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A system update will not proceed with a CWM installed. The OTA update works on a clean Stock ROM only.
There is a new CWM recovery version 6. According to the changelog it should support official OTA update of stock ROM
So she has CWM installed and I wanted to install a new rom, but when I press VOL down + power key it just boots into CWM.
How can I get into fastboot or does this mean I do not have bootloader unlocked?
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There is a new CWM recovery version 6. According to the changelog it should support official OTA update of stock ROM
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It means I don't have to flash stock kernel when ota update comes???
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Last time I rooted a phone was the original DROID (great phone).
Now, I'm back on the scene after not fond of the OTA 4.4 so I consider myself a "newbie" since things have changed a lot.
Took some time but managed to successfully use FIREWATER.
Just wondering if I have the correct order of the next steps:
(*Verizon One w/ Mac machine only)
1. FIREWATER
2. Find Recovery to flash
3. Make back-up
4. Root
5. Find desired ROM
So looks like RECOVERY is next but there are MANY links with "recovery" in search results it's a bit overwhelming.
Obviously I need one specifically for Verizon, right?
Thanks in advance
Your phone was android 4.4.2 and you were able to use firewater to unlock? Or are you asking if you can use it to root 4.4.2? Firewater doesn't work the ota we just got.
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Everything you need can be found HERE everything is pretty much up to date recovery wise
Everyone has their preferences as what recovery to use but I just went through this about 4 days ago.
A recovery option that will work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416273
See downloads where it says classic, and touch -- it's your choice which to get.
I will however note that I had an issue wiping cache/data on the 6.0.4.7 update. It might of just been a bad flash but I ended up going to version 6.0.4.4 and I was able to do everything just fine. Mounts/unmounts, backups/restores, wipes and flashes.
Link to the version I used (CWM Classic 6.0.4.4): http://www.radracer.us/otp/droid/recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.4-m7vzw.zip
To get into your recovery you go to your bootloader (or whatever HTC calls it, where you see Fastboot, HBoot version and what not), and you will see Recovery as an option. Once selected you will boot into CWM.
Do you lose data if you use firewater? From what I am reading I dont believe data is lost but haven't seen a clear answer.
disconnecktie said:
Your phone was android 4.4.2 and you were able to use firewater to unlock? Or are you asking if you can use it to root 4.4.2? Firewater doesn't work the ota we just got.
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No no, sorry should've clarified that: I was on 4.3 and saw the unnecessary changes 4.4.2 brought so I withheld from updating.
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Do you lose data if you use firewater? From what I am reading I dont believe data is lost but haven't seen a clear answer.
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No, not at all. I think I will lose data when I flash recovery or install a ROM though
vpxf said:
Everyone has their preferences as what recovery to use but I just went through this about 4 days ago.
A recovery option that will work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416273
See downloads where it says classic, and touch -- it's your choice which to get.
I will however note that I had an issue wiping cache/data on the 6.0.4.7 update. It might of just been a bad flash but I ended up going to version 6.0.4.4 and I was able to do everything just fine. Mounts/unmounts, backups/restores, wipes and flashes.
Link to the version I used (CWM Classic 6.0.4.4): http://www.radracer.us/otp/droid/recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.4-m7vzw.zip
To get into your recovery you go to your bootloader (or whatever HTC calls it, where you see Fastboot, HBoot version and what not), and you will see Recovery as an option. Once selected you will boot into CWM.
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That's a lot and after this busy weekend, I'll have to sit down and go through everything you just posted. Thanks!
BTW I'm seeing that there are some issues with TWRP not allowing you to BOOT back up if your phone dies?
Any reason why TWRP should be the one or do another RECOVERY?
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No no, sorry should've clarified that: I was on 4.3 and saw the unnecessary changes 4.4.2 brought so I withheld from updating.
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Im in the same boat as you. Waiting to see how everything works out. I have heard clockwork is working pretty well for this phone. ALmost ready to S-OFF now.
So, if I S-Off on 4.3, can I then let the ota come over and not lose the abililty to flash SU, or a rom with SU/Root? I should still be able to flash anything I want in recovery with S-OFF no?