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unrevoked3 and ota update to froyo

Hello to all,
just wanted to point out something interesting about the combination of unrevoked3 and ota update.
First of all I have a factory unlocked desire, in greece and had used unrevoked3 to gain root and install pdanet so i could have bluetooth tethering.. i had not installed any roms just unrevoked.
tried to install the ota update but it failed in clockworkmod recovery 2.5.0.1 (this was installed with latest unrevoked).
i donwloaded the ota.zip from the link posted here in xda, renamed it to update.zip and put it in root of sdcard. then rebooted from clockworkmod recovery and applied sdcard:update.zip.
now i have froyo normally, version 2.2. the phone is still rooted (superuser permissions still exist in my phone and can run overclock widget) but !! clockworkmod recovery 2.5.0.1 is gone .. if i try to reboot into recovery i get the red triangle.
just my $0.02, found this weird and thought to share

sorry, already get the links, thx.

Hold on, you mean that we can have Froyo + ROOT ?
Not getting back the Root is what prevents me from updating.
Can someone please confirm that Froyo can be rooted, please?

i did the exact thing i described, and now can run superuser permissions.. but no clockworkmod recovery
edit -- i can also run rom manager but it says i don't have clockworkmod recovery installed.

ok, so strange things continue..
i can confirm that i still have superuser permissions installed in my phone but it doesn't work..
it doesn't give permissions to other apps as it used to .. and i cannot boot into recovery.

keramidas said:
ok, so strange things continue..
i can confirm that i still have superuser permissions installed in my phone but it doesn't work..
it doesn't give permissions to other apps as it used to .. and i cannot boot into recovery.
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So I guess it's not rooted after all...

seems so.. and there is no way to remove superuser permissions from the phone.
another strange thing! i can install rom manager fine .. even though i shouldn't be able to if i am not rooted .. strange strange strange

My experience with Unrevoked and Froyo OTA:
My phone is a Telstra branded. I got root with latest Unrevoked method, after that I made a Goldcard and runned the RUU for Stock ROM 1.21 WWE. Then downloaded the Froyo OTA direct from the phone and using the Goldcard installed it. So far no problems found. Got HDPA network, GPS fix, WiFi, Bluetooth, thetering, etc everything is working just fine.
My two cents.
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[Q] Where is list of Evo OTA versions in order?

I have been away a while and now it seems things are getting to where I need to start updating and finally going to 2.2.
(Search is down, so hoping this hasn't been asked before...)
Is there a list of all the Evo updates in order? I need this as I am on 1.47 and need to get all the way to...?? (Not even sure at moment as I have seen a 3.28 and 3.29 listed.) It seems you need to install the OTA's in order for some of the incremental ones to load.
Once I have all that then I will unrevoke forever or whatever that is. :^)

There's no reason to go through all that just to get current, especially if you plan on rooting. Just root it now, then flash this pc36img file. You'll be rooted and up to date. Whole process should take a half hour.

Thanks for working to be helpful...but what is that file? Flashing something blindly doesn't seem wise to me. :^)
Also, I am rooted on 1.47. Something is wrong and I cannot get the OTA to run. I am getting apply patch error that supposedly means something has been changed on phone but for life of me I do not know...as I am only supposed to have stock rooted 1.47.
So I need the info as I try to fix where I am now...then work my way up.

Don't worry about the errors. If you used unrevoked forever and have a custom recovery then you won't be able to accept OTAs.
That file is a complete update to the current OS version, with updated radios and hboot as well. It is prerooted so you will keep your root, and it will flash clockwork as your recovery so if you like Amon you'll have to reflash that when your done.
All you do is download it, rename it to PC36IMG.zip, put it on the root of your card and boot into the bootloader. It will recognize the file, load it (takes a few minutes) and then ask if you want to update. Choose yes and let it go. When it's done, you will be EXACTLY where you are trying to be.

_MetalHead_ said:
Don't worry about the errors. If you used unrevoked forever and have a custom recovery then you won't be able to accept OTAs.
That file is a complete update to the current OS version, with updated radios and hboot as well. It is prerooted so you will keep your root, and it will flash clockwork as your recovery so if you like Amon you'll have to reflash that when your done.
All you do is download it, rename it to PC36IMG.zip, put it on the root of your card and boot into the bootloader. It will recognize the file, load it (takes a few minutes) and then ask if you want to update. Choose yes and let it go. When it's done, you will be EXACTLY where you are trying to be.
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That is the most up to date OS, and it is rooted?

(q) DHD OTA update 2.2 to 2.3

Hello there, I have DHD 2.2 stock HTC in with root. My phone is radio s-off and installed custom recovery.
Today I recived OTA update 2.3, I was told that having root phone prevent OTA update. However, I have it now and I don't know if I have to update or not.
Will I lose the root, s-off and custom recovery if I update?
Will I be able to root again and install custom recovery?

Having root prevents you from actually installing the Ota's. Since your stock rooted the phone will still notify you of updates(unless the Dev desables it). So if you would try to install it it would t work and most likely you'll get stuck screen with the exclamation point I believe.
If you want to update you will need to ruu up to 2.3, then you can reroot with gingerbreak. This method will erase everything so make sure to backup
Here's the link to the 2.3 ruu that you run from your computer. Thanks goes to andyharney for the link.
http://www.iloveabath.co.uk/index.php?dir=RUUs/
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Thanx for explanation, but I believes using RUU will return the phone s-on and remove the custom recovery. Is this correct?

The ruu will keep you s-off. It will delete the recovery but after you root using gingerbreak, you can reinstall it through rom manager
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Hi! I might jump into this thread because I have exactly the same situation (except I am not running a custom recovery) but I have a big issue.
The micro usb port on my DHD does not work anymore. I've put off getting it repaired as I have 4 spare batteries and 2 chargers, so I've been able to get by.
Can I still RUU, then Gingerbreak without using the micro usb port?
Cheers!
One other thing - I have the Australian DHD - I did not see a listing for an Australian RUU - Would I need to go find one or could I potentially use a WWE?

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?

@RaindancerAU:
Well, RUU needs the USB port. You could try copying a .zip file to the root of your sdcard, then go into Bootloader and update it through there.
(You can get the .zip file from the RUU by opening the RUU.exe file and press 'Next' untill you reach the 'Checking device' - or something like that - part. Then just press - 'Windows key + r' - type %temp% and search the folders for a .zip file called ROM.)
As for you other question. If your phone is branded to a specific carrier, then using the carrier-specific RUU is recommended. If your phone isnt branded, ... , WWE is fine!

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?
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Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully
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Thx, I will give a try...
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I have a similar scenario.
my phone came with 2.2 and I used the advanced ace hack kit and it successfully rooted, s-off'ed and have the ace hack kit recovery.
When I checked for updates, I was surprised it did prompt me for the OTA 2.3 update.
I am tempted to install it but I am not sure if it will unroot my phone and remove the recovery and if it does, then how do I get it rooted again and have rom manager recovery?
I am with Three Australia and I was hoping someone else had done this before and would like to share their experience with us.

Since your rooted the Ota's will fail to Install. If you want to stay stock I would just flash a prerooted version.
Personally though you should give custom roms a try and enter the fun

I have used an Ice Cold Sandwich custom rom and I loved it on my old DHD but this new one which I got as a replacement came with Froyo and for some odd reason, the WiFi is not working correctly. It connects but nothing get sent or received. I'm not quite sure if its the aahk that caused or it was an issue since I got it as I don't recall using WiFi on it before running aahk on it.
So I was hoping I could install this ota and check if it gets fixed, otherwise I will take it back to 3 so they can have a look and it would look like I have done nothing to it.
Hope this makes sense.
I'm really worried about applying this ota. I have taken a backup but would I get the chance to restore it if the ota update fail to install as you are saying?
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You could restore, but the Ota's wont install at all. You'll get stuck on the screen with an exclamation point,and you'll need to pull the battery to reboot the phone.
What you could do is flash an ruu/pd98img of the stock rom to check the wifi issue. This way will get rid of root and cwr but its easily reattainable

I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.

Saturn007 said:
I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.
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First two questions correct. But their is really no point in attempting it unless out pure curiosity to see if fail.
If you flash the ruu, no need to apply the Ota's as the ruu is probably The Ota's its asking you to install.
Because you will still be soff even after the ruu, you could just install cwr via a pd98img. Then install a rom or backup. And even if you were son the hack kit would still be able to root your phone

I was as curious as a cat and you were spot on. It did fail.
The RUU I was referring to was from the htcdev page which is only 5.9MB and it's mainly to update hboot.
What I ended up doing last night was to apply this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843998 and the OTA still failed.
I guess it failed and when I checked, I still had cwr and hence why it failed.
I checked to see if I still had root and it was not. I was able to install superuser and this was all I needed to get root again. I did not think it was this easy.
I then ended up applying IceColdSandwich 4.0.0 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
I am going tonight to apply 4.1.1 which only got released today.
I have a question about pd98img. what things can I install using this method? Can I packages apk files and name the file this and it will auto install when I hboot?

Pd98imgs are used to flash a radio, a recovery, and a bootsplash(image before you see the bootanimation)
You can have zips that install apps for you. Those are flashed in recovery. I know icecoldsandwich has a overlay script to do that aswell when flashing that rom. You would just have to place your apks in the specified folder.(I believe its data/app/apks)

[Q] Need to Unroot

Theres a new OTA of course that includes gingerbread but I need to download 3.7 in order to get to that. That of course means I need to unroot and thats my problem. I cannot get rid of clockwork recovery and have tried all day to. (Havent showered). I have s-on and used unrevoked 3 to root. Please help me get rid of clockwok recovery.

Why not just flash a rooted version of the update there are a few good ones out and once you unroot it will be harder to root after the update.
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If you don't ever want to root again, or if you don't mind waiting awhile, just run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG of the RUU through the bootloader. This will get rid of your recovery.
If you want to stay rooted, don't accept the update. If you can still get into recovery, flash unrevoked forever through recovery. Or just run unrevoked from your computer. Then download a stock rooted rom from here and flash that. Do a nandroid backup before flashing. Accepting the OTA while s-on will leave you without root until someone finds a new root method for the latest update.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

I tried a PC36IMG and they sad they were invalid. I also tried an RUU and all it did was wipe my phone storage.

S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.

First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
Support TrevE !!

Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!

Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?

grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you

actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.

i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.

popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.

When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !

hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone