I was just wondering if I can flash between NAND backups of different ROMs. I Made a NAND of Fresh, Evio, and Cyanogen and would like to be able to quickly flip between them on the fly and it seems like it would work, I was just curious if there are any issues I might run into. Using titanium each time takes way too long to reload my apps and settings.
I'm fairly sure this is not an issue as long as you wipe data/cache/dalvik before each flash.
Yeah that's what I figured. Thanks for the input!
I do it all the time. When I get things set up the way I want, I do a NAND backup. That way if I want to try a new ROM I can do so without worrying about having to set things back up if it's not what I want. If it ends up being an improvement then I lose nothing. If it doesn't work the way I want, I just restore from my backup. If I had multiple ROMs that I switched between for some reason, this is how I would do it.
i can also confirm this works perfectly fine and is my suggested method for those experimenting with roms kernels or even themes.
You do not need to wipe before doign a nand it will wipe everything and restores the dalvik and cache to what it was at the time of the nand.
i also make a back up of roms even if i dont think i want to use it and them pull it off to my pc. It is easier and quicker for me to drop the nand back on there and restore it if i want to go back an try it out again etc then it is to redo everything. (i have a nand for almost every single rom now though not all the latest version lol.)
So if you nand backup does it keep the apps all on there and wallpaper in place or do you have to re setup everything.?
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So if you nand backup does it keep the apps all on there and wallpaper in place or do you have to re setup everything.?
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it will be exactly as it was when you did the backup, minus any radios or other phone programming through the epst.
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it will be exactly as it was when you did the backup, minus any radios or other phone programming through the epst.
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Thanks that is great I have never nand restored
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i have had a problem with nand and not sure wats going on...i made a backup a few days ago and tryd and new rom afterwords...didnt like it so tryd to restore nand and get error message...something about pushing it adb...kinda confused...also last week ran into a problem where nand restore worked but got stuck in boot loop...why so much problems with my nand do u think ? how can i solve this issue ? thanks
NAND is on the storage card right?
so i can just rename the NAND file as i want, no problems, right?
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Sorry for the dumb question, but a full nandroid backup, is done how? With titanium, or rom manager. Like I said sorry for the dumb question but everything I read just confused me. I'm really not that dumb just need some because I confused myself. Thanks!
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I am new to this stuff but I learned pretty quick because I truly love my Evo so I want the best for it! (roms/kernels) but I over think everything so I need a few dumb questions answered from time to time...
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Nandroid backup is done through the recovery menu. Use titanium backup for the apps, sms backup for the texts, and for the contacts, go to contacts, hit menu then export to SD CARD.
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They aren't dumb questions, you're just starting out. But:
1. Titanium backup is to backup your apps and system, in case you do a clean wipe. backup your apps every so often, especially when you changing roms.
2. If on clockwork recovery, you can backup your rom using it.
3. You can manually backup by turning the off the phone, powering back up, but holding vol+down ad you do, and then in the bootloader screen. Once there, select recovery, then go to backup/restore.
Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Re read your answer and got my other question answered thanks all
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Got it! Nandroid backup = backup/restore! So if I do a nandroid backup it will backup my phone/rom/etc... As it is now?
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Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Anytime man, and you made perfect sense. And I'm always floating around.
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Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Well you can boot into recovery from rom manager, just select reboot into recovery. And I believe you're referring to the bootloader screen. And it only says "nandroid' if you're on amon_ra recovery, but nandroid/backup are the exact same thing. On clockwork, navigate to backup/restore, then backup..and it'll take about 2-5 minutes. After that, go back to the main menu, and wipe factory/data, cache, and then go under advanced and wipe the dalvik cache. After that, install zip from sdcard > install zip > select your rom. And when you boot up, log in, blah blah, then use titanium backup to restore your apps but NOT system settings, or you can get some force closes.
If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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Lawlz, you don't have to flash back to the original stock rom before flashing a new one. You just backup your current rom, then flash the new one. You always backup befpre flashing in case something bad happens.
1. Backup/nandroid current rom
2. Wipe factory/data, cache, dalvik cache
3. Flash new rom
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And its good to ask questions.
Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Anytime, and glad you've got it clear. Always here to help if ya ever need anything.
If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
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If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
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'Nandroid' come from amon_ra, its what its listed from you when backup. Nandroid backup/restore. I personally don't know where it came from, but that's where people get it from.
I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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I think it was a coined term relating to android, as that is the root of the word.
Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
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Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
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Exactly how.
I saw that the final release of cm7 came out and I'm super excited for it! I've been running RC3 for awhile and it's been working fine, but there have been some issues that I would like to have fixed with the update.
My question is: Is there a way to update the rom without losing all of my data or having to do a full wipe?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
You wont need to do a full wipe, just download the ROM to your sd card, boot in to recovery and do a nandroid backup. Then select wipe cache. Once that has finished head to advanced and select wipe dalvik cache (some people say to do this some don't, I do) then flash the ROM.
You will only lose all your apps and setting if you select wipe data, you only need to do this if you are have serious issues that cant be fixed by any other means. Or if you changing to a completely different ROM.
And remember to do a nandroid before touching anything else in the recovery menu
That's it? Awesome! I know what I'll be doing tonight.
Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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ROM Manager can some time cause issues when you flash directly from the app, Some people prefer to do it manually. Ok it might not be totally necessary to wipe the cache's between flashes but does really hurt?
And I resent you saying that doing a nandroid is "F'in Retarded" how frequently do we see people on these forums who have flashed something there not supposed and there most recent backup was weeks ago. It never hurts to do a nandroid it adds 5 minutes to the total time it takes flash something.
As some one who does do a nandroid every time I take your insult personally. And that sort of language is not appropriate in a forum where people of all ages can view.
LOL i don't even have a nandroid of my original ROM. I just got 1 image of RC4...
So I wanted to be 'better off safe than sorry', and I did a nandroid backup (using the latest CWM) before doing a CM7 RC3 -> CM7 Final non-full data wipe upgrade. I had a bunch of problems from the get go, and wanted to revert back to my RC3 backup as I didn't have time to fiddle with everything to get it tweaked from scratch...
However I can't for the life of me get Clockwork to recover my backup. It stops half way through and I'm left sitting at the main orange menu with no confirmation or details on what happened.
Any thoughts?
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Glad its not just be with this mentality. Better to be safe than sorry. I haven't had to start from scratch since the first nightly, because I all ways have a recent nandroid, some times things do go wrong.
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I did the backup (2 actually) and just installed the update. Everything seems totally fine so far and I'm really happy with it! Seriously stepping up to cm7 has made my G2 go from a decent phone with a nice keyboard to a flipping fantastic phone!
Many thanks!
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Your definition of *** seems to be basically the opposite of mine. What if an update breaks something (especially if you are cutting corners by not wiping or by using ROM manager) if you don't have a nandroid of your phone before you flashed that update you are screwed, you will need to start over from scratch.
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Yeah, I agree with you completely. Doing a nandroid takes 5 minutes. Then later you can just move it to your desktop computer, to not take up space on your SD card. I have 3 TB of storage on my desktop, so no worries about saving as many nandroid backups as I feel like.
I've seen random issues pop up on my phone for no obvious reason, with no clear fix. But reverting to a nandroid cleared it up.
Really no reason NOT to do it.
Is it possible to save a data partition from your existing ROM that can be flashed with Mobile Odin? So i could flash a new Rom, Kernel, Modem, then the specific Data partition that I saved from my ROM that holds all my user specific data. Is something like that possible? I am tired of having to set all the apps, data, email servers, and appearances of my old ROM back up after flashing a new ROM. It wont stop me from flashing if I cant......LOL...just wondering if its possible.
I know there is TB and Backup apps but they still take to long to do everything needed. I am lookingfor a one flash type thing to just reapply all user data specific stuff. Possible?
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Is it possible to save a data partition from your existing ROM that can be flashed with Mobile Odin? So i could flash a new Rom, Kernel, Modem, then the specific Data partition that I saved from my ROM that holds all my user specific data. Is something like that possible? I am tired of having to set all the apps, data, email servers, and appearances of my old ROM back up after flashing a new ROM. It wont stop me from flashing if I cant......LOL...just wondering if its possible.
I know there is TB and Backup apps but they still take to long to do everything needed. I am lookingfor a one flash type thing to just reapply all user data specific stuff. Possible?
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You sure can sir, just make sure you don't restore from gb to ics or vice versa, simply go into recovery after new rom is flashed and wipe cache and delvik cache then go to backup and restore and advance restore your data
Awesome, I will give it a try on the next round of leaks!
Thanks.
Just wanted to stop back in and say holy Sh!t. Why have I been bothering with TB and MyBackupPro for so long when I could have been doing this. Soooooooooo much easier.
Make a backup of your data in advance backup
install new rom
restore data with advance restore
Done
No more email setup
No more passwords for wifi
No more home screen setup
Its all done by advance backup and advance restore.
Restoring just got way easier.
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Just wanted to stop back in and say holy Sh!t. Why have I been bothering with TB and MyBackupPro for so long when I could have been doing this. Soooooooooo much easier.
Make a backup of your data in advance backup
install new rom
restore data with advance restore
Done
No more email setup
No more passwords for wifi
No more home screen setup
Its all done by advance backup and advance restore.
Restoring just got way easier.
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Because it doesn't always work....if recovery gives you a md5 mismatch or something and alot of times it can cause force close... Do keep a titanium backup also just in case
Also you can usually do this from tw to tw but not tw to aosp ....can cause problems like I said....similar roms usually ok
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If you are on a good kernel with good recovery and not restoring say from GB to ICS it has always worked for me on my Epic and Epic Touch. Now, if you are changing between GB and ICS it can throw all kinds of gapps, acore, and Google Services Framework errors at you so you may want to keep a Titanium backup like Epix said...just in case
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I ALWAYS use cwm5.0.2.7 for flashing and backup/restore. The only time I use rogue is to flash cwm5. But its rare...
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Alright guys, this thing is driving me nuts. I've been using Fresh EVO 4.3.3 for a while now and I've been backing up and restoring since I first got my EVO so I've done this countless times. For whatever reason, as of late, when I restore a Nandroid backup using Amon RA 2.3 the recovery completes, I reboot back into the ROM and I'm missing all sorts of elements. I'm in the habit of creating a baseline Nandroid of my freshly installed rom and a few updates so i don't have to update the living hell out of all my apps. Lately, however, I get back into the ROM after Nandroid and I'm missing apps namely the Market app as well as titanium backup and a few other no name apps.
It wouldn't be a big deal except that well I have to run around installing random APK's to get a complete recovery state essentially putting myself back to a baseline image. I have to reinstall the vending.apk back into the system/app folder then it FC's a bunch of times before it behaves, then I have to do a full titanium backup cause all my other apps are still missing.
I've done a complete RUU back to 4.54, wiped all caches, reinstalled amon ra, reinstall fresh from base, can't quite figure this one out. I usually restore any nandroid backups I make right after backing one up to ensure the backup is good. The FIRST backup I restore works like a charm....after that it never restores correctly. I backup the default options plus wimax and have even added the android secure data to see if that fixes it, but no go. Any one have any ideas?
Do you back up sd-ext?
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I normally don't, because I normally don't move any apps 2 SD till AFTER I come back from a recovery. So essentially everything is ON the phone, then I nandroid backup...then when I recover it...I move everything that can be put on the SD card over there to free up space.
I thought of this, but then realized that the MARKET can't be put on the SD card...so why would IT not be there?
But more and more time have it baked in. Is your card partitioned, if so you rom might utilize the ext.
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You know, now that you mention it I did partition my SD card using hipkats guide for synergy roms. I wonder if that has something to do with it. So what do you recommend? for me to backup my SD-EXT along with the defaults and wimax for my nandroid backups?
Yes that should take care of it.
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right on, I'll give that a shot right now. I was bored waiting for responses earlier so I'm going through a complete restore, wipe, and recover of all data then I'll give what you mentioned a shot. Thanks headed your way! I appreciate it!
Just to maintain some level of closure here...I went ahead and included the sd-ext in my nandroid backup on Amon-Ra...and it appears to be back to normal. haha never thought of that but thanks again for the help ThickLizard...I appreciate it!
Noob question, I should know this by now, but I don't. What exactly gets backed up with a nandroid? I was thinking of trying some JB roms but don't want to reconfigure my working ICS stuff in case something is not working correctly or I don't like it. Will a nandroid restore bring back everything that was on my phone at the time seamlessly? I know some of you flash roms daily and assume that nandroid backups are the way to go, but I want to make sure. Thanks!
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Noob question, I should know this by now, but I don't. What exactly gets backed up with a nandroid? I was thinking of trying some JB roms but don't want to reconfigure my working ICS stuff in case something is not working correctly or I don't like it. Will a nandroid restore bring back everything that was on my phone at the time seamlessly? I know some of you flash roms daily and assume that nandroid backups are the way to go, but I want to make sure. Thanks!
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On TWRP, it gives you some options, but the usual that is backed up is system, data and boot. Basically your entire current installation. Nandroids will bring back everything back.
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Noob question, I should know this by now, but I don't. What exactly gets backed up with a nandroid? I was thinking of trying some JB roms but don't want to reconfigure my working ICS stuff in case something is not working correctly or I don't like it. Will a nandroid restore bring back everything that was on my phone at the time seamlessly? I know some of you flash roms daily and assume that nandroid backups are the way to go, but I want to make sure. Thanks!
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A nandroid backup is an exactly image off your boot, kernel, operating system, dalvick cache, android secure, and cache.
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Think of a nandroid backup as a save point in a video game
If you mess everything up, you can just continue.
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