Hey guys. I'm pretty tech savy when it comes to computers and all, but for some reason all this "root", "radio", etc. is all mish mosh to me. I'm pretty sure I have my phone rooted (followed a tutorial). I just got the prompt for froyo from Verizon, and I read somewhere i shouldn't install it from Verizon if my phone was rooted. What I want is to just reset my phone without the root, and be able to install 2.2 just as if I never rooted my phone, because I know I'm going to screw something up that's going to end up costing me. So any help??
you sound like me a few months ago
The OTA will update your OS to 2.2 and will update your radio along with alot of other things.
If you hold optical button and power at the same time (after the phone is off) it will boot to the Hboot screen. on the top of that screen you will see S-ON. This is the security toggle for the phone. I cant tell you what or why it does what it does. but it essentially makes its so you cant flash custom roms without rooting. Before you update your phone to the OTA, you want to google "unrevoked3" . download it, and run it. This will give you the Clock Work Recovery which will load instead of the phones built in recovery console. as soon as you do that, then you run "unrevoked forever" this will set the phone to S-OFF.
once you get S-OFF. Revert your phone back to stock by updating with a stock pb31gm.zip (you should be able to find that all over). this will make your phone stock again (by removing the root you did to it by running unrevoked3) but keep the S-oFF setting.
so by the end of the process you will be totally stock, no root, and have S-OFF. then boot up, install OTA, and then load the update with clock work recovery and you will be all set.
its all kinda confusing if you dont read along the forums. but once you get it, its pretty simple.
Another poster in another thread already addressed this. here it is in simplistic form
use google to look up anything you dont understand.
Assuming you have a truly stock Incredible (meaning you didn't force any third party roms or leaked radios), then you follow this order:
1. Unrevoked Flash/Recovery - Adds Clockwork Mod and Superuser permissions to your phone
2. Unrevoked Forever - Adds S-OFF functionality, which means that the HBOOT startup will no longer check for updates that are signed with HTC's super secret signature... Meaning you can flash anything to the phone.
3. Flash Original Stock Recovery - Removes the Clockwork Mod recovery console. Since you have S-OFF, you can return CWM to the phone whenever you damn well please. The original stock recovery is necessary for the OTA to commence, because it is developed to rely on the stock recovery console.
4. Wait for OTA
5. Upon receiving OTA, flash Clockwork Mod to the phone via HBOOT (using a PB31IMG.zip containing it)
6. Flash the root payload via Clockword Mod recovery console.
7. Go to bed and make love to your wife after beating on your chest in victory like tarzan.
8. Reboot phone, bask in Official Froyo coupled with Superuser permissions.
9. Download the busybox installer from the market and install busybox to the system.
10. Make love to your wife again.
Keyboards said:
Hey guys. I'm pretty tech savy when it comes to computers and all, but for some reason all this "root", "radio", etc. is all mish mosh to me. I'm pretty sure I have my phone rooted (followed a tutorial). I just got the prompt for froyo from Verizon, and I read somewhere i shouldn't install it from Verizon if my phone was rooted. What I want is to just reset my phone without the root, and be able to install 2.2 just as if I never rooted my phone, because I know I'm going to screw something up that's going to end up costing me. So any help??
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I didnt read your post all the way before i responded... sorry
since you are rooted already, just get unrevoked forever to get S-off.
your rooted and you got the OTA , so that answers some questions for people right there, there has been much confusion about rooted phones will get the update. I guess you did
People say not to update because it will remove your root and not allow you to re-root. By flashing S-OFF you can re-root anytime you please because the phones security check is off.
The problem is, you need root to get S-off. If you flash first, with S-ON you wont be able to re-root to get S-off, make sense? lol. At this point in the game you can only get S-off while using 2.1. if you got to 2.2 with s-on your stuck for a while with no root.
If that doesnt matter to you, then dont worry about it
If you only rooted your phone and did nothing else, you can safely apply the update. Doing so will remove root.
If you installed a custom recovery you will wanted to install the stock recovery before doing the upgrade.
If you plan on keeping root you will need to install unrevoked forever to enable security off (S-OFF) before starting the upgrade process.
Hope that helps a little anyway.
I never did anything to the phone after the root. The only thing that changed on the phone was superuser was put on my app screen, and I don't even know what that does. I don't care for root that much anymore, it sounded cool, but I'm not the kind of person who knows how to use it to it's full potential. So all I have to do is hit install now on the 2.2 from Verizon and I should be good to go?
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I never did anything to the phone after the root. The only thing that changed on the phone was superuser was put on my app screen, and I don't even know what that does. I don't care for root that much anymore, it sounded cool, but I'm not the kind of person who knows how to use it to it's full potential. So all I have to do is hit install now on the 2.2 from Verizon and I should be good to go?
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well you will have to run a stock pb31img.zip to remove the clockwork recovery , or the update will fail
lemme look around and see if i can find you a stock image. 1 sec
here it is
http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=CHoQD3B
once you get it downloaded, you need to rename it to PB31IMG.zip, place it on the root of your SD card (meaning dump it on the sd card , not in a folder on the SD card)
hold optical button and power button until you get the hboot screen
with "bootloader" selected hit the power button to select it
the phone will look for the PB31IMG.zip file and load it. wait a few min and when it asks you to reboot, say yes. It may or may not ask you to update again , if it does, say yes, if not let it reboot the phone.
once that is done, run the OTA update you got and your all set.
doing this will retain your stock image, and remove root. THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE. so if you have anything you wanna save do it before you proceed
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doing this will retain your stock image, and remove root. THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE. so if you have anything you wanna save do it before you proceed
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Thank you. Will my Market history remain?? Meaning if I bought an app, I can just redownload it??
Keyboards said:
Thank you. Will my Market history remain?? Meaning if I bought an app, I can just redownload it??
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yup, anything you bought is saved to your google account. you just open the market, hit menu, and then hit "downloaded" and its all there
msticlaru said:
yup, anything you bought is saved to your google account. you just open the market, hit menu, and then hit "downloaded" and its all there
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That's great, thanks again. I'm going to give it a shot now.
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That's great, thanks again. I'm going to give it a shot now.
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Ok I did it and it looks like it's going smooth! One thing I noticed is that after I formatted my card to FAT32, it said my capacity was only 200MB? Is this normal?
It's a 16GB card.
Keyboards said:
Ok I did it and it looks like it's going smooth! One thing I noticed is that after I formatted my card to FAT32, it said my capacity was only 200MB? Is this normal?
It's a 16GB card.
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interesting... windows says its 200mb or the phone does? see what it says after the update. Maybe it created a 200mb partition?
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interesting... windows says its 200mb or the phone does? see what it says after the update. Maybe it created a 200mb partition?
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Phone also says 200MB. Phone is back to stock and ready to roll. Still haven't recieved a prompt for froyo yet, checked about phone, still running 2.1 update 1.
Keyboards said:
Phone also says 200MB. Phone is back to stock and ready to roll. Still haven't recieved a prompt for froyo yet, checked about phone, still running 2.1 update 1.
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I think i read somewhere that when you don't accept the update it will wait like 20 min or so before it prompts you again. I don't know the exact time limit tho. you could do the *228 update just to make sure its registered right. i don't really know if that will help push the update or not.. but may as well do it.
as far as the card. after the update try formating it again. kinda of an odd issue. could try googling it
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I think i read somewhere that when you don't accept the update it will wait like 20 min or so before it prompts you again. I don't know the exact time limit tho. you could do the *228 update just to make sure its registered right. i don't really know if that will help push the update or not.. but may as well do it.
as far as the card. after the update try formating it again. kinda of an odd issue. could try googling it
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Still no prompt. Restarted, did *228, nothing. This card problem is also an issue now. It's showing only 200MB on Mac, PC, and the Incredible.
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Still no prompt. Restarted, did *228, nothing. This card problem is also an issue now. It's showing only 200MB on Mac, PC, and the Incredible.
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as far as not getting the prompt, you got me. I cant pretend to know how verizon does their business. Their website says if you ignore the update, it will continue to big you until you get it.
As far as the memory card goes. Thats not really a phone issue. My experience with formatting memory cards stops at the format. Never had it format it wrong. If it was happening to me, i would format it again with a format tool. I dont know your experience when it comes to troubleshooting problems like this. I would start by using multiple format tools on my PC, you said you have a mac, you can try formatting it with the mac. It seems like a simple fix, as it was reporting the right size prior to the format.
Did you format it in windows? did you just right click on it and hit "format" ? try using the disc management built into windows. It should show you the total size of the disc formatted or not. Its possible it somehow was formated as a 200MB partition. if that happened, then you have a 200MB logical partition, and the rest is unformatted and therefor un readable by anything other than a disc management type tool.
depending on your Operating System, your mileage will vary, but google how to open "disc management" for your OS. Stick the SD card in your card reader, then use the tools in disc management to format it to the correct size.
hope that helps.
Also, check your phone. settings > about phone > system information. Ensure you are running 2.1 update 1. and baseband 1.x. If you are, then its a waiting game. also, in the same screen click on "system update" and see if it has an update available. if not... you can always call verizon and play dumb. "ya i got the update, but i had to reboot my phone, when it booted back up i didnt have the update anymore!" see if maybe they can push it to you.
if all else fails you can load the RUU manually.
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Guys,
My Evo says Froyo 2.2 is avail for download when I check HTC Updates... I hit accept, it downloads, then asks if I want to install NOW... I HIT YES, and it takes me to the boot loader page, THEN DOES NOTHING.. It doesn't boot into recovery mode like it is supposed to, and it just sits on the Boot loader screen, NO TRIANGLE, NO BAR on the bottom showing the progress, IT JUST SITS THERE on the boot loader page with the 3 Androids on the bottom... I have already tried to hard reset the phone, BUT that didn't work... PLEASE HELP !!! Is there a way to HARD reset my EVO BACK to BEFORE ALL OF THE UPDATES??? IS THERE A WAY TO Force boot into recovery to apply the "update.zip" ??? Please advise...
Mine did'nt go no where near the bootloader screen...
I hit the download...then it just installed like any other app...except it brought me to a bar progress page a couple of times. Then the phone rebooted and whala...froyo.
I must say this...I was previosly rooted but unrooted to do it!!!
Are you rooted or unrooted to start off with?
Was rooted, but then I did the "update of June 29th" and ruined ALL of my fun... Is there even a way for me to root my phone now??? How do I get it to go into recovery?
Same issue
My EVO ISN'T ROOTED, and I'm having the same exact problem
You're hosed root wise until someone cracks the rom, if they crack the rom. Most likely you'll need to update to the official version once HTC releases an upgrade as they claimed they would eventually do on Twitter.
im not trying to root my phone, i just want froyo
right, I WAS rooted, the update in JUNE fixed that for me =(... NOW I just want FROYO which is available from Sprint/HTC OTA, it just wont install?????????? I think I can install it as an update.zip if I could get my phone into RECOVERY mode... When at the bootloader, if I hit Recovery, it just boots back to the BOOT LOADER????
I would suggest using this unroot program and make sure you use the 1.47 one because there are 3 different roms. This is what I did as I had the june update as you. This will guarantee that you have the right stock rom and are not rooted. Then try the update again...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This is the route I took and was just like you...I had no probs this way!
This is a great recommendation, but I haven't done any ROOT or ROMing to my phone since I've owned it, I've stayed true to the true image they released, and I'm not comfortable downgrading it to some other image that wasn't on the phone. I attempted to do the instructions outlined and I was unable to get pas the stage of pushing the:
RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459
to the phone. It says USB error, and I have debugging mode enabled.
cardiox said:
I would suggest using this unroot program and make sure you use the 1.47 one because there are 3 different roms. This is what I did as I had the june update as you. This will guarantee that you have the right stock rom and are not rooted. Then try the update again...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This is the route I took and was just like you...I had no probs this way!
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I RE-Loaded this version, as the other "older" versions would not work (re-loaded, as this is what I already HAD on my phone)... It wiped the system, and ALL of my info/apps (make sure you back up) and then I was able to do the Froyo Update... YES !!!! Thanks...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Sup...51.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459.exe
I did the same, thank you !
No prob...have fun!!!
Froyo Update Won't Install
To start off - I have never rooted my evo - my phone is running Android 2.1 update 1 supersonic - and I did not try to do the "pre-release" update put out by HTC. Since late last night, I have been trying to install Froyo through system updates (settings, system updates, htc software update). I am able to download the upgrade, which is about 80 MB, but for some reason the update will not install. When I click install now, my phone restarts in the bootloader. If I click on fastboot, it searches for an image on my SD card but can't find one. If I hit recovery, it just returns me to the main bootloader screen. The only thing I can do is reboot or shut down my phone. When my phone boots back up, it says the update is downloaded and ready to be installed. I have tried redownloading the update but the same thing happens. Any help would be appreciated, preferable without losing contacts and apps. I'm trying to save a factory reset for a last resort.
Thanks,
Nick
Nick,
Please read the earlier posts, and follow the link from Cardiox... He said the following...
"I would suggest using this unroot program and make sure you use the 1.47 one because there are 3 different roms. This is what I did as I had the june update as you. This will guarantee that you have the right stock rom and are not rooted. Then try the update again...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...urn-stock.html
This is the route I took and was just like you...I had no probs this way!"
Then read my posts, and you will see that I had the SAME problem you are having, and this worked for me... I posted the thread... It is pretty easy if you follow the instructions... Let me know if it works for you... Good luck !!!
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To start off - I have never rooted my evo - my phone is running Android 2.1 update 1 supersonic - and I did not try to do the "pre-release" update put out by HTC. Since late last night, I have been trying to install Froyo through system updates (settings, system updates, htc software update). I am able to download the upgrade, which is about 80 MB, but for some reason the update will not install. When I click install now, my phone restarts in the bootloader. If I click on fastboot, it searches for an image on my SD card but can't find one. If I hit recovery, it just returns me to the main bootloader screen. The only thing I can do is reboot or shut down my phone. When my phone boots back up, it says the update is downloaded and ready to be installed. I have tried redownloading the update but the same thing happens. Any help would be appreciated, preferable without losing contacts and apps. I'm trying to save a factory reset for a last resort.
Thanks,
Nick
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I am not a genius by no means thus I am only sharing info that I have from personal trial and error. If you are going to a bootloader screen during this update process and your SD card is mounted then you most likely will need to bite the bullet and either do a factory reset or follow the link instructions so given. For some reason this update can not find the original factory code or RUU that it is trying to update. Sounds like your SD card is mounted but it can't find it...I would strongly consider just starting over with that link program. It does not root you it just puts you back square one with factory code. Then the update will have something to build off of...which you apparently don't have for whatever reason.
Ok, this is what I needed to know. I'm backing up my stuff with bitpim and will just do this. Thanks for all the help and the speedy responses!
-Nick
Hi Folks,
I'm a noob, but noticed that we can root our Incredible before the new 2.3.4 OTA is accepted from Verizon, thus allowing for future ROM installs, etc.
However, I have read that using Unrevoked to root also installs a custom recovery and that the OTA will only work if my phone still has the stock recovery.
My preference would be to root the phone for enabling my ability to experiment with the inevitable 2.3.4-based ROMs that will have nicer UIs than what Verizon/HTC will provide via Sense 1.0 in the new OS update.
So, I'm curious if there's a straightforward guide for rooting an (AMOLED) Incredible but maintaining all else as stock, please. Yes, I've tried searching here but have thus far found snippets of info that have not yet gelled for me.
I suppose another option is to simply accept the OTA on my stock phone and wait for Unrevoked or another source to figure out how to root the 2.3.4 install. Does that seem likely to occur? It seems that there's still good enthusiasm for this phone, but I'm not familiar with the Developer circles and their interests.
Thanks.
- ooofest
Root, install this and continue on your way.
Oh, so root with Unrevoked (for example), install that OTA-based ROM and not wait for the Verizon OTA, I guess you're offering.
Seems a good option to consider, thanks.
- ooofest
Exactly! Not sure what other option is ever going to be available.
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Oh, so root with Unrevoked (for example), install that OTA-based ROM and not wait for the Verizon OTA, I guess you're offering.
Seems a good option to consider, thanks.
- ooofest
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That link is to the OTA, which was taken apart to add root and a few other items to it, and made into a flashable zip. Root with Unrevoked, then flash that zip file.
Way easier than:
Rooting now, and then trying to get stock recovery instead of ClockworkMod Recovery, waiting for the OTA, accepting the OTA, then making sure it all works when it's done.
I wouldn't tell anyone to expect root to be achieved on the OTA simply because most of the effort these days is focused on working the kinks out of east root methods on other devices like the dInc2, EVO Shift, EVO 3D, and the Tbolt. There's already a rooted OTA ROM out there anyways, isn't there?
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There's already a rooted OTA ROM out there anyways, isn't there?
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Hence the link I posted in my first response...
I'm glad there is a thread about this. I downloaded the file but I am not sure of how to install it?
socratus said:
I'm glad there is a thread about this. I downloaded the file but I am not sure of how to install it?
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Have you rooted?
Oh yeah yeah Im rooted and everything. Just dont know how to install what file or if i should just drag it all to my sd card and install from romanager
socratus said:
Oh yeah yeah Im rooted and everything. Just dont know how to install what file or if i should just drag it all to my sd card and install from romanager
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Yup, just install with RM by choosing the "Install from SD" option.
I never install from rm. I manually wipe and install from recovery.
keeps saying htc sence has stopped unexpectedly..
It keeps force closing.. I can not get to any menu or anything, it just keeps cycling and force closing, leaving me no time to perform any actions. HELP pleasse
tried to factory restore it upon boot... didn't work...
I tried to boot into recovery cause i did backup rom before tried to install... but when I get into recovery and select an option is does nothing.
It seems it might allow me to wipe data/ factory reset and also wipe cache paritition. Not sure what i should do until I get an answer.
EDIT... Believe I am restoring right now and everything should be Ok, lol. Damn... I will post results in a little when I am done having a heart attack
Having problems @ the screen where the two balls go around the big circle... just froze..
EDIT.
Still froze.
Got it back to work somehow.. pressed the power button while @ the screen mentioned above and it took me to the home screen.
Sorry if it has been answered elsewhere, but I have a migraine and am going for now. I just wanted to post really fast. I rooted my phone recently and have CM 7.2 on my Dinc. Now it suddenly seems that programs seem to think it isn't. Programs such as Titanium Backup won't work saying there is no root. Same with BusyBox and so on. Anyone had any issues like this? Any ideas as to what is next? I am somewhat new to this and would appreciate the help.
Tried to just reroot, but can't seem to get DooMLord's thing to work. Can't get the ADB drivers since, for some reason the Android SDK thingy WILL NOT download the Google USB driver packages. Tried about 6 different times and it just will not download and install them. HELP?
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Sorry if it has been answered elsewhere, but I have a migraine and am going for now. I just wanted to post really fast. I rooted my phone recently and have CM 7.2 on my Dinc. Now it suddenly seems that programs seem to think it isn't. Programs such as Titanium Backup won't work saying there is no root. Same with BusyBox and so on. Anyone had any issues like this? Any ideas as to what is next? I am somewhat new to this and would appreciate the help.
Tried to just reroot, but can't seem to get DooMLord's thing to work. Can't get the ADB drivers since, for some reason the Android SDK thingy WILL NOT download the Google USB driver packages. Tried about 6 different times and it just will not download and install them. HELP?
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Open the superuser app and hit menu and select preferences. Scroll to the bottom and tap check for updates. If it says you have the latest update then hit the update anyways button. Also make sure you have the latest version of busybox installed. Then see if apps can get root. If not post back with your info.
S-off / s-on (can be found at the top of the hboot screen)
Android version (menu settings about phone software information)
Hboot version (found on hboot screen)
Radio (baseband) version. (also on hboot screen)
Also you can get the adb files and drivers here http://dinc.does-it.net/ADB
Tried that and it said d'ling manifest ... okay, parsing manifest ... okay, checking installed version = 3.0.3.2 . I clicked update anyway and got ,,, d'ling custom busybox ... okay, checking md5sum... FAIL! Tried the update fixer and it doesn't work either.Says no problems detected. In the little window it says checking signatures...ok! I click force and fix and get, extracting tiny busybox...fail! It says something about trying to download update.zip from somewhere but I cant see the rest.
My phone is s-off
Android version says 2.3.7
hboot 0.92.0000
radio 2.15.00.07.28
Now all I need are some good drugs so I can sleep. Migraines suck! It won't even let me do that.
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Tried that and it said d'ling manifest ... okay, parsing manifest ... okay, checking installed version = 3.0.3.2 . I clicked update anyway and got ,,, d'ling custom busybox ... okay, checking md5sum... FAIL! Tried the update fixer and it doesn't work either.Says no problems detected. In the little window it says checking signatures...ok! I click force and fix and get, extracting tiny busybox...fail! It says something about trying to download update.zip from somewhere but I cant see the rest.
My phone is s-off
Android version says 2.3.7
hboot 0.92.0000
radio 2.15.00.07.28
Now all I need are some good drugs so I can sleep. Migraines suck! It won't even let me do that.
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Try flashing these thru recovery.
http://dinc.does-it.net/SuperUser/SuperUser_3.0.7.zip, and http://dinc.does-it.net/BusyBox/Busybox_1.19.4_Flashable.zip, then boot and see if your apps can get root.
Flashed them but no good. Still says no root with programs requiring it.
Was going to go nuts and shoot for flashing Condemned CM7.2 to see if I brick my phone or not, but after d'ling the ROM, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next.
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Flashed them but no good. Still says no root with programs requiring it.
Was going to go nuts and shoot for flashing Condemned CM7.2 to see if I brick my phone or not, but after d'ling the ROM, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next.
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If you want to flash a new rom, download the roms zip to your sdcard. Go to recovery and go to advanced and wipe dalvik-cache. Go to mounts and storage and format everything in there except sdcard and emmc. Then go to install zip from sdcard, internal sdcard, and choose the rom zip you downloaded, and select yes to flash it.
Are you sure that you have superuser app set to allow, and not deny these root apps. Try opening superuser app ad removing the root apps from the list. Then try using the root apps and see if it propmpts for and allows root.
I have super user set to prompt me every time and I click on allow. And yes, I have deleted and retried them so many times I want to rip out what is left of my hair.
OK, after flashing Condemnedsoul's cm7.2 (post says v12 but in about phone I get v10, go figure) nothing had changed. I got the ROM manager updated and clicked fix permissions and it went through a bunch of stuff. Now, before it wouldn't do anything through the ROM manager and recovery would do nothing either. Guess I found the culprit here. This is the bad thing about not being able to remove and reinstall these little items. Makes you really crazy at times as you are not necessarily sure that it is really the issue and if it is.... it requires a bit of extra work to fix. Live and learn.
Thanks for trying hard to help me though. It is greatly appreciated.
Oh, thanks for reminding me I am an idiot for not realizing one CAN flash ROM's straight from a .zip through recovery. LMAO! (this is meant as self-deprecating and not as an insult to you)
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I have super user set to prompt me every time and I click on allow. And yes, I have deleted and retried them so many times I want to rip out what is left of my hair.
OK, after flashing Condemnedsoul's cm7.2 (post says v12 but in about phone I get v10, go figure) nothing had changed. I got the ROM manager updated and clicked fix permissions and it went through a bunch of stuff. Now, before it wouldn't do anything through the ROM manager and recovery would do nothing either. Guess I found the culprit here. This is the bad thing about not being able to remove and reinstall these little items. Makes you really crazy at times as you are not necessarily sure that it is really the issue and if it is.... it requires a bit of extra work to fix. Live and learn.
Thanks for trying hard to help me though. It is greatly appreciated.
Oh, thanks for reminding me I am an idiot for not realizing one CAN flash ROM's straight from a .zip through recovery. LMAO! (this is meant as self-deprecating and not as an insult to you)
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Yeah it is recomended not to use rom manager for flashing things, but to go straight to recovery to do it. The only thing i use rom manager for is so that i get notified about new versions of cwm recovery.
If flashing new roms dosent fix the issue there are always ruu's which will put your phone back to complete stock except for still having s-off, making it easy to root again.
Great! Wi-Fi doesn't want to work now! Crap! Gets as far as trying to obtain an IP address from my router and then says out of range while I am about ten feet from the router and the strength meter is showing full...! It just gets better and better some days.
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Great! Wi-Fi doesn't want to work now! Crap! Gets as far as trying to obtain an IP address from my router and then says out of range while I am about ten feet from the router and the strength meter is showing full...! It just gets better and better some days.
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Sounds like you need to just ruu and start over fresh. Seems something is seriously buggy with your setup. Are you using a custom kernel, or one that came with the rom?
Well, Wi-Fi was working with the original CM7.2. Just seems that it isn't with Condemned's. And I am using the kernel that came with the ROM.
To be honest, I haven't a clue about doing an RUU install.
BuffaloChips said:
Well, Wi-Fi was working with the original CM7.2. Just seems that it isn't with Condemned's. And I am using the kernel that came with the ROM.
To be honest, I haven't a clue about doing an RUU install.
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Ruus are pretty simple. Make positive you are s-off before doing this, or rerooting will be a lot harder.
Download the ruu http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/4.06.605.3/PB31IMG.zip
Do not rename it just stick it on the root (in no folders) of your sdcard.
Boot into recovery (if entering recovery thru hboot select no when prompted to update) wipe dalvik-cache in the advanced menu, and format everything in mounts and storage except emmc and sdcard.
Power off the phone and boot to hboot. (hold vol down plus power till a white screen pops up) Hboot will find the ruu automaticly and prompt you to press vol up to update. Do so and let it do its thing, note it will reboot once durring the ruu, be patient and do not interupt it. When done press vol up to reboot. You are now stock.
Do the setup on the phone and then go to menu - settings - applications, and uncheck fastboot. Use a file explorer or pc to remove the PB31IMG.zip from your sdcard.
Power off the phone and boot to hboot again. From the hboot menu select factory reset. This will ensure all corrupt data is gone. After it finishes the phone should boot again. Once again do the setup and uncheck fastboot again.
Download these two files:
http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/PB31IMG.zip
http://dinc.does-it.net/SuperUser/SuperUser_3.0.7.zip
Do not rename them and place them on the root of your sdcard.
Power off the phone and boot to hboot. It will find the PB31IMG.zip file (cwm recovery) and prompt to press vol up to update. Do so. When asked to reboot press vol down no.
Select recovery from the hboot menu. Once in recovery select install zip from sdcard - internal sdcard- and select the Superuser_3.0.7.zip. Select yes when prompted.
Reboot thr phone and go to the market and download the busybox app. Open busybox and install it. Go to your sdcard and delete or rename the clockwork PB31IMG.zip.
Thats it you should be stock rooted. From here you can stick with stock, or flash a rom of your choosing.
I have a PB31IMG.zip file that is 176,626kb with 8 "files" in it. It has andriod-info.txt, hboot_8x50_0.92.0000_100723nb0, radio.img, boot.img, recovery.img system.img splash1.nb0 and nv_MFG_VZW_1.70_0825_PRL58006.img in it. Any idea what the hell this is for? I thought about trying to use it, but I can't even remember what the hell it is. Sad, I know. I should have renamed it so I would know.
Live and learn ......
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I have a PB31IMG.zip file that is 176,626kb with 8 "files" in it. It has andriod-info.txt, hboot_8x50_0.92.0000_100723nb0, radio.img, boot.img, recovery.img system.img splash1.nb0 and nv_MFG_VZW_1.70_0825_PRL58006.img in it. Any idea what the hell this is for? I thought about trying to use it, but I can't even remember what the hell it is. Sad, I know. I should have renamed it so I would know.
Live and learn ......
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That is an ruu. Not sure which version, but definitley an ruu.
PB31IMG.zip files can be ruu's, radios, splash screens, recoveries, hboots, or a combination of them.
Okay so here's what happened, from the beginning:
A long time ago, about a month after the release of the SGS3, I rooted my device. All I wanted was to uninstall bloatware, which I did.
I took some advice from a friend and installed some root-related apps (Titanium Backup, Rom Manager, BusyBox Free, Root Checker Basic, AnTuTu Benchmark, GooManager and TWRP) that I barely used.
Fast forward to today, about an hour or so ago. I had completely forgotten my phone is rooted because all I really did was remove bloatware. Suddenly the thought occurs to me, "I haven't checked for an update in a while!" Again, don't remember my phone is rooted. So I do the software update process, takes about 20 minutes to download the OTA update, then I click continue to install. The phone does its thing, shuts down down to install, starts coming back on, white text at the bottom scrolls with some jargon I am not familiar with, then I see something I recognize: ERROR! (something about md5 files or something rather) "****! I forgot my phone was rooted!" That's when the TWRP UI comes up....
All I can think to do is run the TWRP backup restore, which I backed up as part of the root process months ago. Well, that's complete now and my phone is back to 27 Oct 2012. Not TOO big a deal considering most, but not all, of my data is stored to some cloud (how does that work? I thought water and electronics didn't get along)<---JOKE!. So now I don't really know what to do. I am in the process of using SMS Backup+ to restore all my texts, and am trying to get my apps back up to date. After I get this all done, I still want to run the JellyBean update. As a safe bet, I would like to (if possible) un-root my phone, which requires me to re-install bloatware (?), yada yada yada, and basically return my GS3 back to factory settings so I can install JellyBean the legit way. I would then like to re-root my phone to remove (again) all the bloatware. So, I guess my question to whomever is far more qualified than me (probably 99% of xda forum users) is how can I safely go about doing this without losing (again) all my data? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you VERY much!
Ok. There are several problems here that need to be worked on.
First, I suggest that you get all your apps and data back up to date to "current" as opposed to Oct 27. Once you do that, then boot into TWRP and make a backup and save a copy to your PC as well. That way you will have a current restore point.
Next, the reason you are not able to take the OTA is two-fold. First you have Root and second you have a custom recovery.
**Former is easy to fix. All you need to do is get OTA Rootkeeper from the market and run it. Make a backup of SU and when you are ready to take the OTA, temp delete root through the app, take OTA and the restore Root through the app. Pretty easy.
**The latter issue is with regards to the custom recovery. You will need to find a flashable zip of the stock recovery and flash that (this is after you make your backups of course).
So now you will have an unrooted phone [technically if you use OTA Rootkeeper] with stock recovery. You should be able to take the OTA no problem, restore Root with OTA Rootkeeper and install Goomanager from the market to get TWRP recovery back.
Seem like a lot? Well it is. But then you could always look in the Dev section for a flashable version or mrRobinson's Root66 Odin package which is far esaier that above. Just read the OP.
Well, I am stuck at step one. Now my phone isn't reading my SD card, which is where I would be backing up to as my phone does not have enough free space on internal memory. So I guess I have a new problem that needs a solution, as well as all the other problems.
Still need help guys...
I still need help here. How am I supposed to back up my phone if it's not reading my MicroSD card? Better question, how can I get my phone to read the SD card?
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I still need help here. How am I supposed to back up my phone if it's not reading my MicroSD card? Better question, how can I get my phone to read the SD card?
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Try to format your micro sdcard on your pc
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My phone is reading the SD card in certain applications, but not in the ones that matter. Most of my music is on the SD card and there is no problem listening to any of it, but when I go to the storage settings on the phone it tells me to insert an SD card. Same thing when trying to use TWRP to try and back up my phone to the SD card. This is really frustrating...
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Try to format your micro sdcard on your pc
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That did the trick. Thanks sent your way.
Hi, total noob to Android hacking and rooting here...
I'm in the US and have the HTC Desire 816 (710c) on Virgin Mobile. Really wishing I'd done better research about the Desire 816 and VM before buying this phone. It's a great phone except for the small HD. I didn't realize just how many headaches that small HD--and Virgin's tight-fisted grip regarding their unlock policy--would cause me!
Forgive the length of this, but I'm hoping more detail as to what I've done/tried will help find the right solution...
I was doing fine on KitKat and for some reason decided I wanted to upgrade to Lollipop--mistake number 1! I first installed the update over KitKat but had some issues. Nothing major, but I figured something was definitely wonky when I noticed the basic stock web browser was gone--not that I really use it, just wanted to test something with it. (I was having an issue in Habit Browser, didn't realize 'til later that it was because I had my download folder setting on external SD card. While that worked in KK, it didn't in LP.) So, I did a backup...or THOUGHT I did. HTC Backup app was supposed to have been backing up my phone every day to Drive...turns out, it wasn't, despite notifications that it was working. So, anyway... I went ahead and factory reset the phone and reinstalled Lollipop. UGH! An even bigger mistake. Over 6 GB of the HD gone, just from stock LP!
Then I thought maybe if I unlocked the phone, I could delete most of the junk, even still using the stock OS. I followed the directions on HTCDev and although the proper screen appeared on the phone and asked me if I wanted to unlock, and I replied yes, it didn't work at first. The phone rebooted and everything was the same. Reboot checker confirmed failure.
So, as I was ready to try to narrow down my list of previously installed apps to absolute essentials due to the reduced disk space, I thought to see if there was a a way to revert to KitKat. I followed the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-816/general/ruu-t2952058. I tried the RUU .exe first. It failed, telling me I needed to get the correct RUU and try again. However, HTC's website does NOT show any KK downloads for Virgin Mobile USA for this device. More on that in a moment...
I also tried the flashing via SD card method. It also failed. I thought, what the heck, I'll try steps 3 and 4 of the SD card method, flashing the stock recovery and lock the bootloader, even though I thought my device was locked. Well, I guess I didn't notice when I went into fastboot that the device indeed HAD at some point unlocked, after all.
After those steps, I now had the following show up:
*** Software Status: Modified ***
*** RELOCKED ***
SECURITY ALERT!
I tried flashing the ROM.zip from SD card method again. It failed spectacularly, saying something about about a large file (some of the text was beyond the edges of the screen, so I couldn't read all of it. There was also an instruction to press power to reboot. The phone went back into fast boot screen with red highlighted "!! Image Update FAIL !!" Mind you, this was with the SD card now removed. I did manage to get the phone to boot normally again, back to stock Lollipop.
Now I thought I would try flashing the WWE KK download from HTCDev. Well, I didn't get the large image fail message, but it did fail saying that it was not the right image.
I tried unlocking the phone again, via the instructions at HTCDev. Didn't work. Thought I would try the ROM.zip file from the thread here at XDA one more time. Same fail message as before, same behavior of phone getting stuck on flashboot screen with red error message on initial attempt to reboot the device. I do notice now that although phone status is still modified and relocked, the security alert message is gone.
Can anyone help? I just want KitKat back so I can reload all my previous apps! (or possibly a good KK equivalent non-stock ROM, once I get the phone unlocked again? I have no idea which one though, being a noob :/ )
Thanks!
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So, as I was ready to try to narrow down my list of previously installed apps to absolute essentials due to the reduced disk space, I thought to see if there was a a way to revert to KitKat. I followed the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-816/general/ruu-t2952058. I tried the RUU .exe first. It failed, telling me I needed to get the correct RUU and try again. However, HTC's website does NOT show any KK downloads for Virgin Mobile USA for this device. More on that in a moment...
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That ruu file should work it's the vm usa last kitkat version. You need to follow the directions unroot and relock phone. But depending on what you did to the phone that was non standard you might also need to wipe or format internal data before running the ruu.
I think you can:
1) unroot then boot into recovery(twrp)
2) wipe phone/format data.
3) Boot directly from twrp to bootloader so you can get to fastboot usb.
4) Flash stock recovery from your PC.
5) Relock bootloader then run the ruu.exe.
All the other stuff you did afterwards should not be necessary.
pcjunky: The phone is currently relocked. I'm not 100% sure about unrooted, but I think it is. Like I said, when it was unlocked before I didn't even realize it, and I didn't really do anything unusual with it. The phone still had stock Lollipop on it and I just changed some stock settings and preferences.
Also, as I said, I am a total noob. I don't know what you mean about twrp and booting into that to wipe the drive and then from that. I'm sure there is info about that on this site somewhere, but it might be quicker if you (or someone) could explain it briefly, or point me in the right direction.
Updating to answer my own question in this reply. You're telling me to use a custom recovery but I never installed one. So.... currently searching to see how to do that.
I don't know if it's worth you time to learn how to go back to Kitkat. There should be howto's in the general forum for most everything you need. But I think the free memory difference between Kitkat and Lollipop is almost 1GB. 4.04GB free versus 3.14GB free. If you make sure all your apps that support being moved to SD card are moved and your storage settings for supported items uses the SD card you might be able to save enough space to get by until you decide to switch phones.
Twrp is a custom recovery and backup/restore tool you can do a search to learn about it, but you might not need it. The HTC backup is OS specific and it only saves apps and data not system files. So your HTC backup under Kitkat won't restore over Lollipop. If you had installed Twrp and and made a backup of Kitkat before you installed Lollipop you could restore your kitkat backup over Lollipop.
If you still want to try to get back to kitkat you can try to reset your phone(In theory relocking your phone should do that but it wont hurt) before you run the ruu file.
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I don't know if it's worth you time to learn how to go back to Kitkat. There should be howto's in the general forum for most everything you need. But I think the free memory difference between Kitkat and Lollipop is almost 1GB. 4.04GB free versus 3.14GB free.
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Well, it's interesting to note that my phone used ~ 4.8 GB when it was new with KK installed. After the Lollipop upgrade, it was using well over 6 GB with just the stock OS, HTC apps and Virgin apps on it. Obviously, that was unacceptable, and it's what got me started on this whole quest. :silly: However, after flashing a custom recover image, rather than the stock recovery I used previously, the stock installation is using 4.97 GB, so I think I should be good to go with that.
If you make sure all your apps that support being moved to SD card are moved and your storage settings for supported items uses the SD card you might be able to save enough space to get by until you decide to switch phones.
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I always have used the SD card as much as was supported. Switching phones is not an option for me as I have a rather limited income and the Desire was an investment. Thus another reason I embarked on trying to make these changes.
Twrp is a custom recovery and backup/restore tool you can do a search to learn about it, but you might not need it. The HTC backup is OS specific and it only saves apps and data not system files. So your HTC backup under Kitkat won't restore over Lollipop. If you had installed Twrp and and made a backup of Kitkat before you installed Lollipop you could restore your kitkat backup over Lollipop.
If you still want to try to get back to kitkat you can try to reset your phone(In theory relocking your phone should do that but it wont hurt) before you run the ruu file.
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Well, as I said above, the stock/OME installation now, before uninstalling whatever junk it will let me, is using only 4.97 GB, so I should be fine with that.
Thanks for your efforts to help me out with this. :good:
I'm glad you got it to a workable point. It's possible to go back to Kitkat, but I personally wouldn't do it because it gives you better battery life.
From time to time you should check apps under settings and swipe left to see the apps on sd card. Sometimes new app updates will support being moved to sd card or an updated version of an app will need to be moved over to the sd card.