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I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
Davwf26 said:
I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
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That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
michaelvibe said:
That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
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Already rooted and running fresh. And apparently this came with the most recent fresh update, but had no idea out to try it out! So thanks! This is exactly what i needed.
disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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Really?
I've been in root land so I haven't used it and I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't BLOCK other launchers, I think it just doesn't include the 2.1 AOSP launcher "Launcher 2."
As far as the system cares, your home screen is just an app like a browser or music app, it is just a matter of disabling which one is set as default. This can be done in the applications menu via the method described above, or you may find the application "Home Switcher" useful if you like to try out different home screen launchers?
I certainly could be wrong, but I would be surprised if they blocked the ability to turn off sense as the default.
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
tmac said:
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Why? What does rooting, or removing Sense, have to do with using an alternative launcher? Take your time, be specific.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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No, the new OTA removes the stock Launcher2. It doesn't block anything.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
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Wrong. You can either use the Force Close trick to get Sense to close, or you can just grab Home Switcher from the Market and use that to close Sense.
DraginMagik said:
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
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I doubt it either, but wit the stock launcher as default my comp saw my phone n that was the only way, wouldnt work wit sense. Wit the new update, they removed the launcher so i tried launcher pro as default n it didnt work. But the weird thing is that my computer at work sees my phone wit no problem, so it must be something within my comp that i cant seem to figure out. n my comp is fully updated n drivers are all up to date so its weird.
I just loaded launcher pro last night. Took me a while to figure it out too as it is NOT in the apps and there are NO instructions.
Is it just me...or is there some conspiracy in Android land to NEVER HAVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!!
grrrr
Anyway...somehow one time I tapped the home button on phone and it popped up with a window that asked which one I wanted to use. No idea how I got it, but there it was. It had stock android, launcher, and sense listed. (I am still pre-ota). I have played around with all three.
However...honestly...I found launcher to be a complete slow tortoise! Seriously. Everyone hatin on Sense and Launcher was the slowest thing I have ever seen. And I hadn't even added any apps to it. Not sure I like it at all.
Only cool bit is the home screen rotation...which is what I was looking for. I should go leave comments on this....
LauncherPro is a speed demon and is great to use (been doing so since I found out about it).
I have no idea why it would be slow for you at all.
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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Be sure to clean slate your HTC Sense Launcher. I am running EVOlution V9 now, so can't remember exactly where the option is; but it's there somewhere. I installed Launcher Pro on my Stock ROM yesterday before rooting and loved it. Everything worked great once I deleted everything off of my HTC Sense Launcher and set Launcher Pro to default. Running it on Froyo now as well.
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Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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Open Sense again. I think if you hit menu, something like "Scenes" or similar will appear. Select that and select "Clean Slate." That should clear your Sense homescreen.
Then try Launcher Pro again.
I applied the latest RUU for the Droid Incredible (November 2010 Edition). In the past, I always updated the phone, Got Root Access and performed a Nandroid Backup before removing all the Bloatware/Crapware on my phone.
However, this time I am getting very different results.
After the Nandroid, I delete everything I don't want via Root Explorer. I would delete the obvious ones such as City ID, VZ Nav, Teeter, and a bunch of HTC widgets like Footprints, Contacts Calculator, etc.
I was told that if I go into my settings and 'Clear Data' on HTC Sense that it will get rid of the shortcut to the deleted widgets on the Add Widget Window. It always worked in the past except not on this release.
I have reinstalled the RUU several times to make sure it wasn't a n installation error (of course I am performing a wipe). Any one have any suggestions.
Also is there an updated list of what programs are safe to remove?
Thanks.
Why not flash a "senseless ROM"? there are a number of them out there. You lose the stock Rosie and are forced to use either ADW or Launcher Pro. They alsy delete many of the things you have no interest in keeping.
Just another option.
Because I like Sense. I love the HTC Calendar Widget, HTC Clock Widget (with the full screen weather animation), HTC Tip Calculator and the stock HTC Keyboard (Hence why there is also an equal amount of Sense ROMs out there too).
Nothing I have seen out there comes close to what I like.
I've always just used the system app remover from the market
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
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It works. It gets rid of the garbage shortcuts now. However, you can't put widgets on your homescreens anymore. Very weird. Because the widgets I want to put on my screen are installed.
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If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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I'll give that a shot too. However, without even doing it, I think it won't work because of the SQL entries left behind.
I am just being real anal. The garbage widgets shouldn't bother me but I want it to be clean.
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Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
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Click on USER CP at the top of this page.
UndergroundWire said:
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
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Did you ever manage to work out how to remove the deleted widgets from the list?
I know I've read somewhere that homescreen icons disappearing after reboot is inherent to Froyo and TW. However, this only happened to me after installing Bonsai 3.0.1 using the twcrushd launcher. I've been using Bonsai since 1.1.4. The TW launcher in Bonsai 3.0 did not have this behavior.
I didn't hear anyone else talk about this, so I assumed it was just me. I even Odin'd back to stock EB13, re-rooted, and installed Bonsai 3.0.1. Still no change. Other launchers do not seem to have this issue.
So I guess my question is, is this normal behavior using twcrushdlauncher?
Just to make it clear, it's not that I get the default icon placeholders waiting for the SD card. The icons are completely gone.
Same exact thing for me. Moving back to phone works to get them back but then tried to get them to stay after moving back to sd, no luck. I'm guessing the card may need to be reformatted. I hope I'm wrong.
holes45 said:
Same exact thing for me. Moving back to phone works to get them back but then tried to get them to stay after moving back to sd, no luck. I'm guessing the card may need to be reformatted. I hope I'm wrong.
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Save yourself the time. Already tried it. Backed up the SD card, formatted on computer, formatted again in phone. No change. LOL!
Thanks for the heads up. I just changed all my apps back to phone memory. Guess till we figure it out, just need to deal with the memory hit.
Grr... I won't be able to fit all my apps on the phone memory. Does Darktremor's Apps2SD work on our phones? Wonder if that would fix anything...
I had apps in phone memory disappearing, so just went back to TW3.
00dwan said:
I know I've read somewhere that homescreen icons disappearing after reboot is inherent to Froyo and TW. However, this only happened to me after installing Bonsai 3.0.1 using the twcrushd launcher. I've been using Bonsai since 1.1.4. The TW launcher in Bonsai 3.0 did not have this behavior.
I didn't hear anyone else talk about this, so I assumed it was just me. I even Odin'd back to stock EB13, re-rooted, and installed Bonsai 3.0.1. Still no change. Other launchers do not seem to have this issue.
So I guess my question is, is this normal behavior using twcrushdlauncher?
Just to make it clear, it's not that I get the default icon placeholders waiting for the SD card. The icons are completely gone.
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Have you tried another launcher? does this kind of behavior happen in any other app?
decalex said:
Have you tried another launcher? does this kind of behavior happen in any other app?
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No other launchers don't have this issue. I've had serious fc and apps getting screwed up w/ launcherpro in the past. I really liked the twcrushd, but I just tried go launcher ex and I think I've found my new launcher. After 2 days it seems fast, stable, and I like it's features and style.
hmm
I have noticed this for a while with any froyo rom. The icons do show a generic image on the launcher after boot....but, they do eventually display the proper image and work correctly. Sometimes I have to restart my launcher, but within 2 minutes they fix themselves. It seems to me thats the last task thats completed after booting up. I have never had them disappear for longer than 2 minutes
Launcher pro fixed it for me. Actually, regular twlauncher worked too. Guess it was just twcrushdlauncher. Thanks for the help!
Sean Hicks said:
I have noticed this for a while with any froyo rom. The icons do show a generic image on the launcher after boot....but, they do eventually display the proper image and work correctly. Sometimes I have to restart my launcher, but within 2 minutes they fix themselves. It seems to me thats the last task thats completed after booting up. I have never had them disappear for longer than 2 minutes
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holes45 said:
Launcher pro fixed it for me. Actually, regular twlauncher worked too. Guess it was just twcrushdlauncher. Thanks for the help!
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Yeah that was usually the case for me too, but I left it on for hours before realizing they weren't there. Also, when they appeared late, there would usually be a generic android logo placeholder. This was not the case here. I really tried everything as described in the OP.
holes45 --> All the other launchers worked fine for me too. I'm glad you found a replacement you like!
Yup, me too. Put TW3 back on and restored data from Titanium and all my homescreens were back to before upgrade.
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Took a wrong turn at Albuquerque!?
I don't know when or how, but I deleted TWLauncher from my apps, and like you all my apps keep disappearing and it is ridiculously frustrating! I hate LauncherPro and was wonder if their were any alternatives or a way to d/l TWLauncher from somewhere?
I'm using Go Launcher EX and loving it. Unfortunately I don't have twlauncher anymore either (except in a nandroid backup somewhere) but I'm sure you can find it. You can even take the apk from an older version of bonsai (inside the zip file in system/app).
r0nin ar1es said:
I don't know when or how, but I deleted TWLauncher from my apps, and like you all my apps keep disappearing and it is ridiculously frustrating! I hate LauncherPro and was wonder if their were any alternatives or a way to d/l TWLauncher from somewhere?
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Here you go:
Thank to the both of you, helped me out in two different ways and I appreciate both, never thought about looking in the actual zip file and its nice to just know what Im looking for, again THANKS.
WTF???
Does anyone else use Go Launcher?
Everytime I setup all my widgets just right and get everything laid out, as soon as I reboot the phone it erases all my widgets. I just a full wipe and wiped everything multiple times. Then flashed protekk build #18 (because I had no issues with it before), then reinstall all apps through market, then setup my widgets and same issue....
I just got this phone as a replacement (old phone had power button issue), I haven't returned my other one yet. Is there a chance it is an issue with the phone? Never remember having this problem with the other phone...
It only erases my widgets, I have one app icon on my desktop and it loads that back up but nothing else...
Seriously man??? You've asked this at least twice in the nightlies thread. I've tried to help you at least twice. You keep ignoring my replies.
If you keep ignoring the only people trying to help you, it's going to be pretty hard to get help.
GatorsUF said:
Everytime I restart my phone my Widgets are gone. Go Launcher reverts to default...
Launcher bug or ROM/launcher bug?
Been using golaunch for a while, never had this issue.
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byrong said:
Are you using a theme in Theme Chooser? Could be the same problem that plagues WidgetLocker
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GatorsUF said:
WTF???
Does anyone else use Go Launcher?
Everytime I setup all my widgets just right and get everything laid out, as soon as I reboot the phone it erases all my widgets. I just a full wipe and wiped everything multiple times. Then flashed build 18 (because I had no issues with it before), then reinstall all apps through market, then setup my widgets and same issue....
I just got this phone as a replacement, I haven't returned my other one yet. Is there a chance it is an issue with the phone? Never remember having this problem with the other phone...
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byrong said:
I tried to help you before, but you didn't respond.
This may be the issue
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Sorry, I saw your reply but didn't respond to it.
I am using the theme chooser, but I never had this issue with my old phone.
I'll try going to stock theme and setting up widgets then reboot, that should tell me if its a theme issue correct?
edit: so that worked, it kept the widgets...
Kind of a bummer that it does that with Go Launcher.
For anyone having this issue, just setup your Widgets and then in go launcher setting choose backup configuration. After that everything should be Honky dory.
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Several times I have edited my app drawer order, grouping apps by type on each page (a page for games, a page for internet stuff, a page for utilities, etc.), creating folders, etc. Then I hit Menu > Save, and everything is fine, until I reboot my phone. Then it loses the app order, and a few apps get seemingly randomly moved to their own pages, so the total number of pages grows from about 5 to upwards of 8 or 9. It seems like the most recently added apps get moved, but not always. I move them all back how they should be, but they only stay until a reboot.
Anyone else have this happen? Or better, found out why? Or even better, how to make them stay?
Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
xak944 said:
Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
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Are you on stock or a custom ROM?
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JohnCorleone said:
Are you on stock or a custom ROM?
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Stock+root.
xak944 said:
Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
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I don't sort them in the App Drawer. I leave them arranged alphabetically grid or list. I do arrange the ones I most often use somewhere on the 7 Home Screens though.
They will not stay. It is an annoying problem. I use folders now to group my apps. And I have my apps sorted to stop the spacing issue.
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I will try to replicate it. I am using ADW EX so I will switch it up and see what happens
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Still happening on Starburst ROM 1.5, so the problem it's with TouchWiz and is not ROM-specific.
I made a backup of TWLauncher with Titanium, so when my drawer gets really messed up I restore data from the backup (killing the running process) and it does restore my app layout as it was when I made the backup. Not a solution, but a lot quicker than re-sorting 50 apps. If only I could figure out how to trigger a save of the layout...it seems to just do it occasionally and I can't figure out what triggers it (certainly not when the Save button gets pressed...as if that makes sense).
Had anyone replicated this issue on TouchWiz 3.5? (or is it 4.0... whatever the flashable one is that's newer than what ships with the device).
I know what u mean but for me its all good after i fix it a second time untill i change then itll revert to just before i changed
It only happened to me on 4.5 thiugh
Good thing actual tw4 launcher doesnt have that problem
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Still happening on Starburst ROM 1.5, so the problem it's with TouchWiz and is not ROM-specific.
I made a backup of TWLauncher with Titanium, so when my drawer gets really messed up I restore data from the backup (killing the running process) and it does restore my app layout as it was when I made the backup. Not a solution, but a lot quicker than re-sorting 50 apps. If only I could figure out how to trigger a save of the layout...it seems to just do it occasionally and I can't figure out what triggers it (certainly not when the Save button gets pressed...as if that makes sense).
Had anyone replicated this issue on TouchWiz 3.5? (or is it 4.0... whatever the flashable one is that's newer than what ships with the device).
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Yes, it's a problem with TouchWiz - I can replicate this behaviour on my S2, factory 2.3.5 ROM without root
Mesquire said:
Yes, it's a problem with TouchWiz - I can replicate this behaviour on my S2, factory 2.3.5 ROM without root
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Bummer. Guess we have to wait for an official update to get an updated launcher.
are you saving the changes ?
You have to make your changes then hit menu again and save changes.
otherwise they don't stick.
after clicking save don't press anything for 30 secs or so
that seems to do it for me
if i save and immediatly go back it doesn't save
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... Then I hit Menu > Save, and everything is fine, until I reboot my phone.
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mjcollum said:
are you saving the changes ?
You have to make your changes then hit menu again and save changes.
otherwise they don't stick.
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Says so right there in the OP.
mjcollum said:
after clicking save don't press anything for 30 secs or so
that seems to do it for me
if i save and immediatly go back it doesn't save
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Okay, I'll do some organizing and give that a try.
hi all,
after updating my galaxy s2 from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 with kies, i had the same problem about sorting applications page.
i didnt reset my phone before or after updating with kies. first i tought that i might be about this. i was looking for a solution and i read these posts. without resetting my phone i just tried to delete files of TW Launcher.
Settings>Applications>Manage applications>All(tab)
find and tap "TW Launcer"
tap "Clear data" button.
after that my home screen and applications screen look default.
applications screen sorted alphabetical.
i customized my home and app screen again and till now didnt change anyting, i mean didnt forget the layout of apps.
i wanted to share this little unprofessional solution with you =)
if there is a better way i want to learn.
finally i have a question, after updating to 2.3.5, when i tap contacts, it opens slowly, after 1 or 1.5 seconds lag(black screen) it opens. but not always. it happens just sometimes.
do you have the same behaviour?
sory for my english. looking forward to see your answers or comments.
i tried and there is no problem anymore
tuncaycoskun said:
i tried and there is no problem anymore
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How about you share what you did?
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How about you share what you did?
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14th post,
see my firs post
I'm really surprised I haven't seen more people complaining about it but I guess most are not running TouchWiz.
To re-explain the problem I'm having..
You arrange all the applications in different panels the way you want (after you hit "applications" not the home screen panels)
After turning the phone off and on again Or plugging it in to the computer via USB and removing it, all the applications are a mess again. Not the way you arranged them and there doesn't seem to be any logic behind it.
It's not just the way they were the last time you turned the phone off or the last time you plugged in the USB cable.
I also thought having folders in an earlier panel may be causing later panels apps to get bumped around but I've tried it with the folders in the last panel and I get the same randomness.
Similar threads Without a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324365
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296060
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358464