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Magic/ION/Google ROM on the Hero!

Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.

sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)

deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..

sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.

Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go

Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.

I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.

Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?

Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.

I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?

sonny88 said:
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.

sonny88 said:
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE

frandavid100 said:
Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!

Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!

Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).

frandavid100 said:
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.

Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!

frandavid100 said:
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck

sonny88 said:
BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave

Skyraider 4.0

Ok Im sure its out there somewhere but Ill be damed if Im reading 728 pages of threads. How in the world are people getting SR 4.0 flashed? I keep getting a error on rom manager and I cant find the file in the normal thread. Am I missing something. HELP ME SOMEONE! I see a QR code but it says 3.5

Mod please remove post i am dumber then a iphone user.

HAHA epic!!

Ha tard
CM7 nightly

masully1984 said:
Ha tard
CM7 nightly
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Good one...
/sarcasm

Kipphh said:
Mod please remove post i am dumber then a iphone user.
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Awesomeness.

that's an Iphone user.....lol

Scenes won't save in 4.0
Hi all,
I'm a newb to all this...been with my droid inc for a bit now and only just decided to root it and try out some new ROMS. Chose Skyraider 4.0 as my first and am VERY happy with it, no issues except 1.
I can't post in the development thread as I'm a newb still and I have done a search and I can't seem to find the answer to this one issue:
I can't figure out how to save scenes in skyraider??? guessing it just doesn't work? did I get a bad flash? pending improvement?
thanks for any replies

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Lazy8 said:
Hi all,
I'm a newb to all this...been with my droid inc for a bit now and only just decided to root it and try out some new ROMS. Chose Skyraider 4.0 as my first and am VERY happy with it, no issues except 1.
I can't post in the development thread as I'm a newb still and I have done a search and I can't seem to find the answer to this one issue:
I can't figure out how to save scenes in skyraider??? guessing it just doesn't work? did I get a bad flash? pending improvement?
thanks for any replies
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I believe you need 10 other posts first. Welcome to xda, land of dinc
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Yes I do there's 2 now

any of you think you can help me out? i cant post in the developers thread either haha and i need a fix now. i stupidly tried ussing metamorph to change the icon on the new rosie dock thing. and now the htc launcher keeps FC on me and i really dont want to nandroid and have to re do everything. so is there any way i can get the rosie dock thing back to the original skyraider one it came with?

jsms0905 said:
any of you think you can help me out? i cant post in the developers thread either haha and i need a fix now. i stupidly tried ussing metamorph to change the icon on the new rosie dock thing. and now the htc launcher keeps FC on me and i really dont want to nandroid and have to re do everything. so is there any way i can get the rosie dock thing back to the original skyraider one it came with?
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adb push Rosie.apk syste/app

A little help!

Hey folks, I was told there was a thread with bootanimations for the GB ROMs located in here and I can't find it to save my life. Yes I've tried search but it just isn't giving me squat. I just need a pointer.
I'm not a noob by any means and usually have no problems finding what I need but this is driving me nuts. Please don't blast.

There are bootanimations all through here that should work for you. What rom are you running and what kind of animation you looking for, that will help someone give you a better idea where to start.
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dased14 said:
There are bootanimations all through here that should work for you. What rom are you running and what kind of animation you looking for, that will help someone give you a better idea where to start.
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I haven't found a single one. Maybe I didn't go deep enough or something. I'm running a blue themed version of MikG 1.03 that someone has been kind enough to let me test so I would say MikG 1.03.
Before running this I was running King Cocoa with a blue honeycomb animation that I was quite fond of but I tend to change around a lot when I get free time. I would like to find as wide of a variety that I can just to keep in my library for those FLASH ATTACK days, lol.
I'm gonna keep looking but if anyone comes across one in the meantime and could send me the link, it would be very much appreciated.

so your just looking to collect some animations for later or your have a hard time finding some to flash to that rom(in recovery)?
none in the splash and animation collect thread appeal to you? any certain kind you like.

did you look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708173

dased14 said:
did you look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708173
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I'm not a noob, I have practically all of the animations prior to the GB update, flashable and others. I was told those bootanimations will NOT work with the new ROMs. I looked through root explorer and couldn't find the animation file anywhere which leads me to believe this to be true. I was told to look in the Themes and Apps forum and there was a thread with some new ones.
If not, most of my animations you had to replace the existing one in system with root explorer. So how would I go about changing it because the file doesn't go into the same place.

sorry if i implied that. in that rom did you look in data\syscustomize\resource and i think the bootanime is called SPC_bootanimaton.zip and i think you can replace with root explorer same as before. as for a thread for just gb animations i dont remember seeing one just for that.

dased14 said:
sorry if i implied that. in that rom did you look in data\syscustomize\resource and i think the bootanime is called SPC_bootanimaton.zip and i think you can replace with root explorer same as before. as for a thread for just gb animations i dont remember seeing one just for that.
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No worries, I see where you're talking about. Now one question , can you use the older animations and just name them as they are in that folder. ? Will they still work?
I just realized that the folder you're talking about is where it has always been, you just took another route to get to it. You can also go through system/customize/resource, same thing. That's the way I always took to replace them before. So they just started renaming the file then.
I'd really like to know if the older files, renamed to spc_bootanimation.zip, would work. I'm going to be changing roms either tonight or tomorrow so maybe, before I do, I will try it and see what happens.

yes the should work just fine. just make sure it is named exactly as they have it. for example "SPC_bootanimation.zip"(or whatever rom your using has it named as)with caps and underscore. hope that helps

[Lockscreen apps] An awsome article...

I just had to post this. It's about how to change the lockscreen apps. I have been searching for something like this ever since i got mine HOX and to night i finaly found this article.
Link to it
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/18/change-lock-screen-apps-htc-sense-4/
Please don't kill me if there are already a post about it. I have been trying to find something like this for month.
Note from me:
I my self are using the Apex launcher therefor I didn't find out of the connection mentioned in the article. But however, i find it realy usefull when i can have different apps in the launcher and the lockscreen. Thought I think HTC could have made this kinda' setting in a better way

Not trying to be funny like but.. that's pretty much common sense and probably one of the reason's you could not find a thread/tutorial for it,
glad ye discovered it anyways ...

LaneyEFC said:
Not trying to be funny like but.. that's pretty much common sense and probably one of the reason's you could not find a thread/tutorial for it,
glad ye discovered it anyways ...
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Ok... It might be obvious, but I didn't realise the connection. I was searching for a setting like in CM9.
However, now i'm happy

Ta~ Da~ I have no problems on found/adapting this ease...
Cause previously i had saw on sense devices but not own it myself.
Dunno the previous behavior of it.

sopidos said:
I just had to post this. It's about how to change the lockscreen apps. I have been searching for something like this ever since i got mine HOX and to night i finaly found this article.
Link to it
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/18/change-lock-screen-apps-htc-sense-4/
Please don't kill me if there are already a post about it. I have been trying to find something like this for month.
Note from me:
I my self are using the Apex launcher therefor I didn't find out of the connection mentioned in the article. But however, i find it realy usefull when i can have different apps in the launcher and the lockscreen. Thought I think HTC could have made this kinda' setting in a better way
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Good Hint, I didn't know it is as easy as this. Regards

Mmmm.... Thanks, useful tips.

[Q] S-off without identifier tag

Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you can help me out. I have a HTC Wildfire S but I'm getting quite fed up with always running out space and not being able to move some of the preinstalled things to my SD card. So... I read up a little and believe I need to root it to gain admin so I can start moving things around. To do that I need to turn S-off(?) but the problem i'm having is HTCDev don't seem to be emailing me whatever I'm supposed to get after pasting my identifier code. Is there anyway to get it S-off without the identifier thingy?
Thanks.

LowKee said:
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you can help me out. I have a HTC Wildfire S but I'm getting quite fed up with always running out space and not being able to move some of the preinstalled things to my SD card. So... I read up a little and believe I need to root it to gain admin so I can start moving things around. To do that I need to turn S-off(?) but the problem i'm having is HTCDev don't seem to be emailing me whatever I'm supposed to get after pasting my identifier code. Is there anyway to get it S-off without the identifier thingy?
Thanks.
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If you follow instructions from HTC DEV it will make your phone S-ON...To do S- OFF you need XTC clip...So you can try couple of more times pasting the identifier token or try using xtc clip...If nothing works try this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131264
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varun26296 said:
If you follow instructions from HTC DEV it will make your phone S-ON...To do S- OFF you need XTC clip...So you can try couple of more times pasting the identifier token or try using xtc clip...If nothing works try this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131264
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Well I don't fancy paying £33 to get the job done just yet so I shall try the link and if no joy, keep pasting my identifier and pray I get a response, thanks.

That link was very helpfull, I downloaded the utility, followed the instructions and got the phone unlocked in s-on... I have no idea what that means but i'm going to look it up now and see what to do next

LowKee said:
That link was very helpfull, I downloaded the utility, followed the instructions and got the phone unlocked in s-on... I have no idea what that means but i'm going to look it up now and see what to do next
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So now Root your phone and install CWM Recovery..
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varun26296 said:
So now Root your phone and install CWM Recovery..
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Done and done and backed up, now just trying to figure out what rom to install.

LowKee said:
Done and done and backed up, now just trying to figure out what rom to install.
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Try Jelly King if you want a taste of jelly bean. If you want ICS, CM9.1 Alpha 9. If you want sense based ROMs, I would recommend wildchild or crossfire 77's modified stock ROMs if you want the default looks.
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"My name is Win. And if you are reading this, you have been defeated."

Lt. Win said:
Try Jelly King if you want a taste of jelly bean. If you want ICS, CM9.1 Alpha 9. If you want sense based ROMs, I would recommend wildchild or crossfire 77's modified stock ROMs if you want the default looks.
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If im totally honest I have no idea the differences between them, I was told try CM9.1/CM10, I checked out their wiki, seems pretty good but doesnt actually say if it supports Wildfire S or not, then I found out theres like 3 types of wildfire S. Also I read about some bugs in the video/camera for CM, dunno how dated the posts where though or if they are fixed now.
I assume Sense based roms are based on Htc Sense?
Forgive the n00bness but I am but a humble n00b, research, trial and error all the way.

LowKee said:
If im totally honest I have no idea the differences between them, I was told try CM9.1/CM10, I checked out their wiki, seems pretty good but doesnt actually say if it supports Wildfire S or not, then I found out theres like 3 types of wildfire S. Also I read about some bugs in the video/camera for CM, dunno how dated the posts where though or if they are fixed now.
I assume Sense based roms are based on Htc Sense?
Forgive the n00bness but I am but a humble n00b, research, trial and error all the way.
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CM9.1 has the infamous camcorder bug. CM10 has working camera, but the video records at a very low frame rate. Yes, sense based ROMs are based on HTC sense. In Wildchild, sense stuff is stripped out, only essential files are kept. It makes the phone faster.
N00bness, well, even I was once that way. But I have to appreciate the fact that you are at least researching. People just blindly come and ask questions to which answers are literally one search away.
If you have any more doubts, feel free to ask again and use my help thread in the Q&A section.
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"My name is Win. And if you are reading this, you have been defeated."

Lt. Win said:
CM9.1 has the infamous camcorder bug. CM10 has working camera, but the video records at a very low frame rate. Yes, sense based ROMs are based on HTC sense. In Wildchild, sense stuff is stripped out, only essential files are kept. It makes the phone faster.
N00bness, well, even I was once that way. But I have to appreciate the fact that you are at least researching. People just blindly come and ask questions to which answers are literally one search away.
If you have any more doubts, feel free to ask again and use my help thread in the Q&A section.
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Loss of camcorder... I dunno man, what happens if the Mrs wants to make some *home movies* ahem.
Wildchild sounds good then. Basically my issue was the lack of space, which I fixed last night with the something2sd app (forgot first part of the name), which also sorted out problem of getting rid of rubbish like twatter and friend stream. Right now i'm not really after anything life changing, stripping it down to the bare essentials and being able to put a few apps on would be great, overall speed improvement and battery life would be awesome as im sick of charging it all the time but I dont want it at the cost of other things not working. Oh and being able to do themes would be really nerdy but cool. Any suggestions?
I actually quite enjoy the research side of things, I like understanding things, granted im not the most technically minded but I can figure out the basics... sometimes.

LowKee said:
Loss of camcorder... I dunno man, what happens if the Mrs wants to make some *home movies* ahem.
Wildchild sounds good then. Basically my issue was the lack of space, which I fixed last night with the something2sd app (forgot first part of the name), which also sorted out problem of getting rid of rubbish like twatter and friend stream. Right now i'm not really after anything life changing, stripping it down to the bare essentials and being able to put a few apps on would be great, overall speed improvement and battery life would be awesome as im sick of charging it all the time but I dont want it at the cost of other things not working. Oh and being able to do themes would be really nerdy but cool. Any suggestions?
I actually quite enjoy the research side of things, I like understanding things, granted im not the most technically minded but I can figure out the basics... sometimes.
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If you want themes on Wildchild, its pretty much DIY. Visit uot kitchen and make it yourself. And if you want the personalize option to work in Settings, you need to flash the stock Rosie. Its in addons section.
Or you could use CM7.2, based on GB, everything works except USB tethering (which I forgot to mention is a known bug on all CM Roms). Themes are widely spread on play store, xda, and a bunch of other sites. If tethering isn't of concern, you can go for CM7.
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Lt. Win said:
If you want themes on Wildchild, its pretty much DIY. Visit uot kitchen and make it yourself. And if you want the personalize option to work in Settings, you need to flash the stock Rosie. Its in addons section.
Or you could use CM7.2, based on GB, everything works except USB tethering (which I forgot to mention is a known bug on all CM Roms). Themes are widely spread on play store, xda, and a bunch of other sites. If tethering isn't of concern, you can go for CM7.
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After a quick googling I found out usb tethering is using your phone as a modem, not something Ive ever used or ever plan to use, so that puts me smack bang in the middle of wildchild and cm7.2. Any other pros and cons?

LowKee said:
After a quick googling I found out usb tethering is using your phone as a modem, not something Ive ever used or ever plan to use, so that puts me smack bang in the middle of wildchild and cm7.2. Any other pros and cons?
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That's pretty much it.
Cm7 looks kinda bad, so I would recommend either LunarUI or MattedBlues. Top themes and I've tried out both.
If you like blue, you're gonna like Wildchild. But if you can't handle everything blue, cm7 is for you.
Good luck, and ask away if you still have doubts.
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"My name is Win. And if you are reading this, you have been defeated."

Lt. Win said:
That's pretty much it.
Cm7 looks kinda bad, so I would recommend either LunarUI or MattedBlues. Top themes and I've tried out both.
If you like blue, you're gonna like Wildchild. But if you can't handle everything blue, cm7 is for you.
Good luck, and ask away if you still have doubts.
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"My name is Win. And if you are reading this, you have been defeated."
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Crunch time, so much pressure. So it's safe to assume both are pretty similar and do the same things, both are better than what I have now and both are simple to customize?

LowKee said:
Crunch time, so much pressure. So it's safe to assume both are pretty similar and do the same things, both are better than what I have now and both are simple to customize?
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Yes, yes and yes. Only CM7 is easier to customize. Because finally, its CM.
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"My name is Win. And if you are reading this, you have been defeated."

And installed/flashed

This was a really enjoyable thread to read. Much props to you Lt.Win. Its great to see someone helping out a new guy without sarcasm and such. Keep paying it forward.
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