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Hi all,
I'm looking to hear from people who are running WM6 Preferably on the US Cingular network.
I've read that 1.38 gives the best mix of battery and phone function.
To me, having a usable phone that doesn't drop calls but also does not suck down the battery in a day is the most optimum choice.
I am currently running 1.41 Radio, (I'm a sucker for anything new) and my battery seems to not last like it used to. I have an 8525/Hermes
Although it is my own personal phone, I do use it alot for work and can't afford to be dropping calls. I don't have anything against testing different radio versions, but was looking for people to share their experiences.
The list I have found of available Radio Roms is as follows.
1.07.0310
1.27.00.00
1.35.00.11
1.38.00.10
1.38.00.11
1.38.30.10
1.40.30.00
1.41.00.10
well mate... I have 1.41 and I must admit, that I am really impressed... Third day after flash and still 40% of batt. with normal use... (usually 2 days at most)
to early to judge though, but I am 100% sure it's better than on generic t-mob radio.
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1.40.30.00 is best for me.
I had 1.41 release, but it was not as stable at holding signal.
You should make this a poll.
1.38 on Black 1.2 and I'm a happy camper.
I had 1.38 and switched to 1.40.30.00. My battery life is MUCH better. I have a cingular 8525.
Thanks to all so far for the replies. I have added the list of available Hermes roms to my first post. I did this after creating a Poll that was quite limited. Does anyone know how to change the Poll once it was created?
For me, 1.40 is more stable than 1.41 ... on 1.41 in (oakland, ca) I was having dropped calls on the transistion from 3G to GSM ... my perception is that 1.40 handles the transistion better.
1.40, I went almost two full days and only dropped to 30%. Im active with email/txt and light web browsing.
CUSTEL had written that he had gotten the best life from 1.34. I went to that from 1.41 and the battery life is much better.
it helps if you list all of the radios in the poll..... 1.34
I updated from the 140 to the 141 radio and I do not notice any difference in battery life but I do notice that I have better reception and places that I would drop calls at now I do not lose any. .... I do not know if it is a radio issue or not but my Wi-Fi takes forever, as when I was running the 140 it was fine, I have changed 3 roms times while running the 140 and 2 times with the 141 and noticed the Wi-Fi problem with 141 and running 2.5 but I never use it and have an unlimited plan with cingular so it does not matter to me.
tons of issues on 1.41 for me. I had 1.40 but i guess i d/led one of the wrong custom rom packages and jsut checked and i got 1.41. Sigal cuts in an out horribly. And my net connections always drops. modem disconnected errors on connecting, Going back to 1.40 to ensure that was the root of my problem
no issues here so far on 1.41.. when loading a radio on put the radio on 1st then put your new OS on there it makes it work better
this poll sucks...
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this poll sucks...
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hahaha, actually this thread might be the first good thing (in my perspective) that a noobs done since they stopped peeing against the wind.
I first started noticing dropped calls on 1.40.30, so i'm just enjoying this. People are giving 1.41 the royal blessing and others are bashing it to hell. I'm about to update to 1.41 to see if it helps me out. If it doesn't get my royal blessing then i'm going back to 1.38
No ofense TBCOMP! you may not be a noob, but its a noobish post.
Hehehe. @custel
I want to change my vote! I voated 1.41, but i'm reverting back to 1.40. or even 1.38.
You don't have 1.34 on your list, but that's what I'm using. I've been using it since day one. Don't fix what ain't broke, I always say.
I used push-mail with WM5 and had ****ty battery life (around 30-40% at the end of the day), but if I don't use push-mail (and I'm using WM6 - Custel 1.2), I am still at 90% by the end of the workday.
.:Christian:.
Cingular User & 1.41
I've been using 1.41 since it was first posted on this site and I haven't had a single problem. Calls are clear, never dropped, Internet / downloads are fast and stable.
I think the problems people are having involve the locations they're using their phones. I'm in Philadelphia PA and this city and surrounding area is wired for Cingular 3G.
http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
Maybe the newer radio is for newly wired areas?
1.40.30 for me in the Austin, TX area. 1.38 just plain sucked for battery life - I don't think you'll find anyone here who had a good experience with that one and battery. 1.40.30 was a dramatic improvement.
1.41 had more of a problem holding a connection for me in NW Austin. YMMV.
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Thanks for the great and constructive feedback. If you had read from the beginning, (I've since added to the first post though) I listed only the radio roms that are in the poll, I then found the full listing of the roms that are available for the hermes devices. I also posted, for anyone to answer, how to modify the items in the poll as it is not blaringly obvious to me. I'd be more than happy to add all of the radios to the poll but can't quite figure out how... Thanks.
I apologize and feel bad for feeling like this post is harsh, but if I hadn't seen your name above the post, and recognized your sig, I'd have thought that came from someone who just stumbled upon the boards, Not from the one who's ROM I am currently running.
fone_fanatic said:
hahaha, actually this thread might be the first good thing (in my perspective) that a noobs done since they stopped peeing against the wind.
I first started noticing dropped calls on 1.40.30, so i'm just enjoying this. People are giving 1.41 the royal blessing and others are bashing it to hell. I'm about to update to 1.41 to see if it helps me out. If it doesn't get my royal blessing then i'm going back to 1.38
No ofense TBCOMP! you may not be a noob, but its a noobish post.
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May be a noobish post, but to aggregate everyone's different opinions on the topic from all of the existing threads is not easy. It makes it even harder when the questions asked/ statements about the topic are usually burried on page 44 of a rom posting thread are sometimes hard to get back to. I didn't state in my first post, I'd be willing to try the ones that people suggest as I have to try to find the time to flash. let alone get stuck with a bad radio rom for a few days in a row if I can't get back to flashing it sometime soon.
Now, does anyone know how to change the poll options once the poll has been created?
Hopefully this doesn't come off as to dumb but i had a few questions i was hoping someone would know.
I searched quite a while and didn't come up with anything relevant.
Im wondering what effects using a different rom(or radio if im saying it wrong) has on the quality of signals, call clarity and overall performance.
For example, say i had the stock WM6 rom from tmobile on my dash, would the signal and quality be better since it's released specially for tmobiles network?
Ive noticed that using the tmobile rom, my signal wasn't that great, the HTC WWE one was ok, but still dropped calls, rogers was probably the best ive used so far, it terms of call quality and signal strength. Currently im using the brightpoint rom, and i get alot of dropped calls in places i should, and previously had full edge.
Now im probably thinking of something different but would using a different rom really have that much effect on the signal? i dont know exactly who brightpoint is, but say like with the rogers rom, is the fact that its Canadian have any effect on the quality?
Hopefully that makes any sense, it made more sense in my head but alas im a bit on the dumb end of things.
Also i never looked in to it, but it is possible to just change...radios... i think it would be.. and leave the 6.1 OS?
Oh im using rickys 17th by the way.
I'm not certain because I have not tried it yet but after spelunking the forums I believe the radio ROM update is separate from the OS ROM update.
I have tried the Kavana and Kavana/Ricky rom aside from the regular tmo wm6 and have not noticed any irregularities in signal strenght.
thats what i figured, im guessing its just tmobile has horrible signal where i live.
Well the new version (23) seems to be giving me a better signal at my work. I now have 3 bars instead of just 1 or 2. You can download it below and try it to see that it works.
Supposedly, the 6.1 roms don't have radios flashed with them.
Unless I am wrong, whatever radio you are using before, is the same after.
Yea, I Havent Noticed A Difference, I Was Runnin Wm 5 And Now I Have Ricky's 23rd, If Anything Its Better... But Iono. I Shall Have To See... I Think Its The Same As Before Tho
So is a radio included with Rickys latest rom (v23)? Or do u need to install one after installation
as far as i know the 6.1 roms use what ever radio is previously installed on your system. I believe mine is the 03.07.90 brightpoint rom
Can someone ectract from the latest WWE Rom the RADIO?
Thanks
Dont bother, its also bad version
??? bad version?
radio is worse???
i read that this is the best rom till now. better radio,less memory leakage,better battery life.
i will be testing it this weekend. still testing 1.37.405.1WWE
Battery life seems to be better, this is true(or HTC just "adjusted" the battery display ).
3G connections also seem to be more stable, the HSDPA connections don't switch too easily back to GPRS or EDGE anymore, at least this is my feeling about it.
So no matter if this is an effect of the new ROM as a whole or just an effect of the radio ROM, it is definetely worth updating.
I wouldn't agree at all that the new Radio is "bad" or worse than the 0.93.xxx versions, definetely NOT.
is the only RADIO rom available?
gerazzo said:
is the only RADIO rom available?
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How many times have you already asked this???
People aren't blind, they're reading your request.
Making almost a dozend posts with the same request actually annoys people, honestly.
this post is my first and only ask about this matter..... i haven't asked more...
keep it quiet friend!
good night
in my opinion this radio version isnt better then the former one i had. I have still very bad reception while my touch cruise receives full.
What radio is everyone using or would recommend for CM7?
I can't post in the development forums yet even though i've been here awhile just a lurker though.
2.15.00.07.28 There is a newer one I believe but I haven't tried it.
This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
Noticed a bit of a stronger signal when I flashed the 11.19 radio (newest). As I understand it all phones are different though, I would test each one and see what works best for you.
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This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
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Yeah but i would have just posted in the CM7 thread, but i understand.
I have the 11.19 radio right now (flashed it and hboot 92 while running SR 3.5 athena and it killed my wifi...) seems to be doing fine. Took about 3 tries to get CM7 working correctly for me though. Kept getting a boot loop forcing me to reflash.
Give each radio a test drive yourself for a few days. Asking what radio you should use is like asking someone to tell you what your favorite color should be.
Baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your individual variables. As such, someone else's experience isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of what you can expect on your own phone in your location.
I'm running 11.19 now on rooted 2.2 and I seem to be getting better signal now than I did before. I was at Camp Old Indian over the weekend and was getting 2 bars consistently while everyone else got "no service". Anyone in Scouting that knows the upstate area of South Carolina knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm using 7.28. I was using 11.19 for a about a month before going back. Cell reception is the same but 3g is faster on 7.28. Atleast for me it is. I never use gps so cant speak for that.
I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
There is a thread in the development forums that is a must-read if you are considering a radio flash so you A)know what to do and B)don't permanently brick your phone.
Read it...
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I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
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The next time you have to reboot your phone, go ahead and pull the battery too. It might help to completely power down the device. It may not help, but it can't hurt.
i have been using the 11.19 radio for a couple of months and it works well for me.
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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kenneu said:
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Ok, so I ran 10 trials each for the three kernels about 1 minute apart and measured dBm and kbps UL and DL speeds using speedtest from the market....
Having testing it and reflecting on the data, it's impossible to test meaningfully with just one phone.
The upload and download speeds vary too much from moment to moment and within an hour apart, 11.19 went from an average DL speed of 480kbps to 1150kbps. This is clearly just a function of who is currently sucking up bandwidth and unless I have three phones with the three versions of the radio side by side running the tests, I don't know how I can make it meaningful.
I did compare the dBm on each kernel and they were within -1 dBm of each other consistently. The phone was placed in the exact same location and I watched for changes in the number until the screen blanked. I then opened it again and monitored it again until it timed out and so on... 10 times for each radio version. The difference was so small it would have to be considered insignificant.
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
The new 4.08 radio is working good for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955
kenneu said:
Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
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As far as receiver sensitivity goes...I was an electronics technician at one time in my life, and I too believe the hardware is the limiting factor. E.g: My phone is setting in the exact same spot, facing the same direction, and I updated from 11.19 to 04.08, and only noticed -1db difference. I am using the Real Signal app. And it shows the relative strength of both signals that our CDMA phones use.
Hello folks,
I know this is one of the most repetitive questions asked in this forum but mine is slightly different. I read many posts which says you have to test all the radios yourself and decide what suits you. I am running AOSP GB ROM.
I tried the latest 27.03 then went to 5.14.05.17, both seemed good and I was having good coverage for mobile/GPS. But the main problem is when I want to use 3G for mobile browsing. I see full coverage, H and everything, but when I try to browse something, nothing happens, its like no data is sent/received...It'll stay like that for few seconds sometimes a minute too and then does send/receive which annoys me a lot and prefer a consistent 2G connection which works 100% even though its slow. It happens quite regularly. This is irrespective of which ROM I use so it may be to do with -
a. Radio
b. Phone
c. T-Mobile UK
Btw, I am on "unlimited" data plan.
So just want to know if there are any T-Mobile UK users who don't have this problem and would wish to know which radio suits best for them and then I may try that n see if that helps or infact anything to boost 3G data transfers ?
Help much appreciated.
Cheers,
RD
..... I will say what you said and a lot of people said. Try each radio to see which suits you the best.
If your still having issues (which you are) then give T-Mobile a call. They do diagnostic checks and everything so they will be able to help you out more than what we can.
i find 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 seems to hold a constant H
Hey Thank you both for replying. John, I flashed the radio you said above and it is behaving good so far. Will test this throughout the day but initial impressions are definitely better.
i will definitely second that. i have been using 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 for a long time on my Desire (TMobile) and its the best i have tried.
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
I am so glad you have created this thread as I havn't got round to it. This problem is a constant pain in the ass, and is driving me nuts.
You have mentioned, if it was to do with 'T-Mobile UK' themselves as I believed it was. I've contacted numerous times regarding this matter but they hadn't a clue what I was on about and I presumed it was to do with the recent merge up with 'Orange UK' to create Everything Everywhere that I signed upto, so I had requested to opt out but they're demanding me to tell them what the reason and issue was, so I did, but they did not respect my decision of wanting to opt out, so I didn't take it any further. If you are signed to Everything Everywhere, then we may have something there...
So, I left that to be... until I investigated the other possibilities... I tried flashing other ROM'S but the problem kept persisting.
However, I have never discovered it could be to do with the 'Radio' I'm using, hopefully it is as it will be less of a hassle for myself and others alike.
I await a solution...;(
Anybody can help assist me? Thanks
sh500 said:
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
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Sure is
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Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
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Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
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no radio is going to fix the issue, i've had that problem since i had the htc hero, tried all the radios, they all the same , can;t really see the difference .the same thing with the desire. what made it worse since the merged with orange.
the only good thing about orange , i get good reception indoors, good for making or receiving calls, no internet .
indoors wifi . oudoors hsdpa(t-mobile) when you a good signal is good . i wouldn't bother flashing more radios, it's t-mobile's **** coverage.
hope this helps
Thanks for your reply.
My first instincts was that is was to do with the Orange merger. If there is a slight improvement by flashing a different radio I would be grateful, if however as you say it makes no difference I'd leave the radio as it is.
It would be great if others can confirm/post a solution.
Thank you.