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Hey guys-- got back from the t-mobile store and they told me the data port is dead (from water damage). It turns on with a fresh battery fine, but apparently I'm getting an error code. That code is probably that the data port is messed up because I can't charge my battery. I'm assuming I have to replace it. Does anyone know of a video tutorial or something that will show me how to do it?
thanks.
the chances of the data port being physically damaged by water is very slim- I think they are trying to tell you the circuitry is faulty. If you had ripped the charger out and bent or broke the port, then I could see it- but water cannot bend or break that way and corrosion is unlikely unless its been sitting a while.
Back to the original subject though, I just replaced a faulty USB port on my friends Moto Q. It wasnt bad, but you need a very small pencil iron (I use a station) and good eyes, otherwise you will bridge the tiny connections and be fubar'd.
gospeed.racer said:
the chances of the data port being physically damaged by water is very slim- I think they are trying to tell you the circuitry is faulty. If you had ripped the charger out and bent or broke the port, then I could see it- but water cannot bend or break that way and corrosion is unlikely unless its been sitting a while.
Back to the original subject though, I just replaced a faulty USB port on my friends Moto Q. It wasnt bad, but you need a very small pencil iron (I use a station) and good eyes, otherwise you will bridge the tiny connections and be fubar'd.
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Where did you find the port to replace it with...
find a bricked one on ebay or something..or someone selling one with a cracked screen etc...use it for parts
welp, i've never soldered... guess you gotta learn sometime. ports are bout 25 bucks... Guess I have a new hobby. Or maybe I should just buy an external battery charger... soldering sounds more fun though. Yeah, what i meant by getting an error code is when i plug in the charging cord into the cell phone, I get a red light instead of yellow/orange. But, I have to push up on the cable where i insert it into the port to get anything. So, its not dead, but either dying or drunk....... drunk from oil.... which it swam in... and got sick from. vegetable oil, not motor oil... which would be a waste of oil. Anyways, thanks for the replies and if you stumble upon a vid for the dash, please post it. I found some on blackberries, but not an excaliber.
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my friend sourced his usb port from Mouser (P/N 538-67503-1020) for $1.12 each. I still have one (he got a spare) but I dont have a dash to take apart and compare the pins. I assume they are all the same generic port, but the pin spacing could differ
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=7zcQ9RRVJlhHWuXYKEhKMg==
that's pretty sweet speed. I bookmarked that webpage (dunno why really). I could just always link from here; but anyway, I received a new battery that I ordered before the geniouses at t-mobile told me that a red light is an error code, my old battery is perfectly fine, my data port is broken, and no... a new battery won't fix it. *** what's my point you ask?***
They don't know jack fecal matter. I just popped in the new battery and 1) my phone turned on, 2) my charging light turned orange, 3) my plug doesn't need adjusting to charge the phone, and just now 4) my phone has signaled to my through a pretty green light that the new battery just finished charging.
So, to recap, the guys at t-mobile said my port was fried and that all my problems were due to that. My theory was that oil (and come to find out water) damage caused the battery to malfunction and thereby refused to allow a current to charge it resulting in the errors. Turns out, I was right.
Thanks speed and all for your replies. If I need a cheap miniusb port in the future, I now have a good source. Now, Anyone know if a new lcd will fix the splotchy marks on my screen (look like dark puddle spots). I'll post a pic in a new post in a minute.
Yah you can grab a new LCD off ebay (fairly cheap) and then go to youtube and youtube "fix dash screen" and there is a tutorial on there that will guide you on replacing your screen.
just make sure its the lcd thats the problem- the outer clear part that you can touch is separate, and comes with the case. Mine are scratched to hell on both my Dash's but I refuse to buy new cases to fix them
i dunno what's up anymore
I don't know what to think of this thing anymore. This morning it wouldn't turn on, even though I had the green light on the device as it was plugged in all night. So, I kept fiddling with it hoping it would turn on so I could have ATT do a remote hard reset. Well... it wouldn't cooperate. So, I left it alone. Then this evening I was about ready to bury it and I tried the power button one last time and it turned on. But, the battery was really low and I got the red light again when I plugged it in. I guess the battery got a bit of a charge in itself just sitting there. So, perhaps the t-mobile guys do know what they're talking about. Well... i did actually get the orange light while it was on for that sweet minute, which should mean its charging, but I guess its not actually charging the battery. I suppose the last way to go is external charger. I'll probably pick one up off ebay for 15 bucks.
Hi all,
I put my desire onto charge and as I picked it up and touched the outer casing I could feel this electric charge vibration on my skin, you can clearly feel it as you run your finger along the side of the metal part of the case.
What I want to know is.. Is this normal for this kind of phone or I have a dodgy one where something is touching something it's not supposed to be?
I had a laptop once that did the same, It had a metal lid.. A portege 3110 years ago and I assumed it was faulty.
I have the same thing, more so on the left side. Thought maybe everyone had it, be weird if they dont
It's perfectly normal. I would have thought that having a laptop that does the same would have confirmed that.
Fatriff said:
Hi all,
I put my desire onto charge and as I picked it up and touched the outer casing I could feel this electric charge vibration on my skin, you can clearly feel it as you run your finger along the side of the metal part of the case.
What I want to know is.. Is this normal for this kind of phone or I have a dodgy one where something is touching something it's not supposed to be?
I had a laptop once that did the same, It had a metal lid.. A portege 3110 years ago and I assumed it was faulty.
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Yeh I have the same, it's perfectly fine
Even my iPod Classic does the same, had it for 3 years and it's still going strong.
But yeh I wouldn't worry about it, tbh I get turned on from the electric charge from my BEAST
I am super sensitive to things like this, It actualy makes it difficult for me to use the device while plugged into the charger. I stuck my multi meter on it to check and I get a high reading from the outer part of the case that surrounds the screen, even with the phone off charge and just sitting on the table I can get a decent reading.. Is there a design fault with this phone that's causing it to leak charge into the case?
I've checked my old N95, O2 Zest & Moto Droid for the same issue, I thought the droid would be the same since it has metal casing too but it's not.
Are you 100% sure this is normal? And what are the side effects of being continualy pumped with current while using your phone plugged in?
no, you should not be getting charge in the case....it does sound to me like you have a problem.
Mine has no such feeling when charging.
I can't imagine there's any dodgy side effects, it's only 5v at 1A. that's less than sticking a 9v battery on your tongue, but it's still not right i don;t think.
If you do send it back to HTC, get someone to take a picture of you and the multi-meter clearly showing the charge on the case. it's just an extra bit of evidence in your favour.
I don't have any such problems.
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I don't have any such problems.
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For those of you that can not feel this, try the following.
When the device is being charged, very lightly run your finger along the "metel" edge part of the screen.
Its the same effect that i have when in bed with an electric blanket on and i lightly touch the brick wall!
On another note, there is no "tingle" when charging from from a pc.
Same problem here.
When i charge it on my Acer laptop with Windows or Linux, everything is ok. Today i connected it to my EEEPC with Linux on it, and after the battery was approx. 90% charged again, it started to "wobble" when you touched it. Maybe it was there before, dunno ...
I can feel it on the screen and on the bezel. If i hold the phone with 2 hands, i can't feel it. And yes, i'm very sensitive to electrical currents
I don't think it's "fine" ...
I have the same problem, just assumed it was a faulty charger as my sisters charger, and my car charger don't replicate it.
GF
Hi
my sgs2 goes in car mode and starts vlingo "tap to speak" all the times.
Sometimes it thinks its on "charging"
Pls help.
I had this for 2 days. I unnistalled ADw launcher and no problem ever since. Are you on a rooted device?
Sent from my stock GT-I9100 using XDA App
Im on a rooted device.
I have wiped my phone and tried different roms.
The problem aint going away.
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Hi
my sgs2 goes in car mode and starts vlingo "tap to speak" all the times.
Sometimes it thinks its on "charging"
Pls help.
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Option 1) Do you have a casing with a magnet in it, or any other magnets (wallet, bag, etcetera) (dunno for sure if the SGS2 has magnet-activated-carmode as well...?)
Option 2) Shortage in your usb connector? - does it charge correctly, does it connect well to your pc?
Thanks for the answer.
I have no magnet nearby. So that cant be the problem
it has happened a few times that it dont sync with the comp its just starts to charge the battery instead.
When i charge the phone. There is no problem.
first post, reading allot
i have this problem to, since a few days.
wiped al data. moved to stock firmware, but the problem is still there.
also causing extreme battery heat and drain from 60% to 0 in like 15 minutes
had adw launcer installed for a week or 2 but no problems.
it seems to me when you wipe all data this cant be a problem anymore.
will try diffrent firmware now.
if anyone has a solution for this problem please post
Anyone sorted this? Mine started doing the same a few days ago. Really annoying...?
I just noticed my SGS2 doing the exactly same thing today! I'm fairly sure it is related to dirt or dust in the microUSB port, since my friend dropped my phone at the beach (not gonna borrow it to him again!) and it got covered in sand. Few hours later, sporadic car and PC modes, sometimes the phone even thinks it's charging. I tried blowing into the USB jack but to no avail... I hope I won't have to return it!!
I think there might be bad microUSB port soldering. Try connecting your phone to pc and wave/move your phone, or tick the cable with your finger. Does it sometimes looses connection and reconnects right after (might not happen every time)?
Bad port soldering does happen for other phones too. But I'm not sure if this will be covered by the warranty. Service might say that you bend the cable/port too much when connected or something.
Anyone tried to bring the phone for the service because of this issue already? If this is the case service should be able to fix it easily.
Last night my phone wouldn't even start charging, so I decided to take matters into my own hands. With the smallest screwdriver I could find, I carefully 'lifted' the tiny PCB in the USB jack while blowing in at the same time. Sure enough, some sand particles fell out, and I haven't gotten carmode'd in nearly 13 hours now. Previously it would do it once every 15 minutes. So far so good, it seems.
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Bad port soldering does happen for other phones too. But I'm not sure if this will be covered by the warranty. Service might say that you bend the cable/port too much when connected or something.
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I'm absolutely certain the warranty would cover this fault, if I pay $675 for a mobile phone I definitely don't expect it to stop working after I insert the USB cable the wrong way!
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Last night my phone wouldn't even start charging, so I decided to take matters into my own hands. With the smallest screwdriver I could find, I carefully 'lifted' the tiny PCB in the USB jack while blowing in at the same time. Sure enough, some sand particles fell out, and I haven't gotten carmode'd in nearly 13 hours now. Previously it would do it once every 15 minutes. So far so good, it seems.
I'm absolutely certain the warranty would cover this fault, if I pay $675 for a mobile phone I definitely don't expect it to stop working after I insert the USB cable the wrong way!
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Thats why I think its soldiering problem. I did the same thing at it helped for some time, then it started vlingo again a few times, then again is ok for several days.
Does your phone do reconnects to PC when moved? It happens for me from time to time and it is scary that for example ROM flashing can get interrupted.
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Does your phone do reconnects to PC when moved? It happens for me from time to time and it is scary that for example ROM flashing can get interrupted.
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Yes, it did that once or twice, but I thought it was due to the fact that I was trying to remove other USB cables from my computer and accidentally hit the SGS2 cable. If it is actually a problem with the phone, it could actually be dangerous to flash a new ROM!
What we learned so far:
Problem:
1) Vlingo (car mode) starts sporadically (most often when connecting USB).
2) Phone shows "charging" or just "USB connected" even when it is not connected.
3) Sometimes starts "kies mode" without cable if "USB debug" is not enabled.
4) When connecting USB to PC, phone reconnects if moved.
5) Sometimes charging do not start when connecting USB.
6) Sometimes when trying to reboot, battery image with thermometer appears and phone do not start to boot when power button is pressed. It will boot into recovery (Vol Up + Home + Power). Go to the recovery and reboot from there. t
Reason:
USB got polluted or bended. It also happens if you forced to connect USB cable upside down. My guess is that soldiering of USB PCB gets damaged.
Solution (at least makes it happen less often):
Shutdown the phone, take the battery off. Clean the usb port. If it doesn't help then carefully bend the usb PCB a bit downwards.
If anyone brought his phone for service with this problem, please let us know the outcome.
Edit:
stevee1953 got his phone replaced because of similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15925236&postcount=7
Anyone fund a proper solution for above problem?
EDIT:
I cleaned the USB port with a toothbrush, and the problem is gone.
After cleaning the the usb and bending back the usb problem never appeared again so far (almost a month).
Hi all,
had the same problem (starting Car mode). After reading that some of your guys think it has something to do with dust, smut, etc. I remember my jogging during heavy rain.
I`m absolutely sure, that was my reason for the behavior. The usb connector has been wet.
After some hours (it was dry), i never see the problem again.
So be careful with your usb connector.
Tregobad
I've cleaned out the USB port a bit, and the problem isn't as bad now.
Still happens a bit though.
Just to be sure, people say to bend the USB PCB down? To me, it seems like it's very close to making contact with the bottom of the port, so I lifted it up (by putting a thin flathead screwdriver between the PCB and the bottom of the port to lift it up).
Is this right? Or should I be pressing it down even closer to the bottom of the port?
(I'm saying up = towards the screen, just to make sure )
Got the same problem, I wrote it down here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16665786&postcount=26
(Not galvanized but oxidized thou.)
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Just to be sure, people say to bend the USB PCB down? To me, it seems like it's very close to making contact with the bottom of the port, so I lifted it up (by putting a thin flathead screwdriver between the PCB and the bottom of the port to lift it up).
Is this right? Or should I be pressing it down even closer to the bottom of the port?
(I'm saying up = towards the screen, just to make sure )
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Sometimes bending is needed, because this problem will occur if you accidentally plug USB cable upside down or have bend it with cable. USB PCB has to be very near bottom of the socket.
In your case you probably just need to clean it. What I did, I took a matchstick, sharpened it with a knife, then crushed the end (I did with my teeth ), so you get like a small brush. Then I carefully cleared socked with it (might need to make a few, but matchsticks are cheap here )
Be sure to take of the battery before cleaning, because if you just turn off, cleaning USB with something wet will make your phone to boot.
I'm posting my solution in a couple of threads hoping to help somebody out. This problem was driving me crazy:
I fixed it on my phone:
Reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588 gave me the idea of cleaning the microUSB port. Of course with the battery removed. I also saw someone having the same problem with a HTC-phone so i guessed it couldn't be a software issue.
I used a non-conducting spray for cleaning electrical wiring (ask for Contact Cleaner), that removes oxidation from electrical contacts and such. I guess one could use Isopropyl Alcohol (from a pharmacy) as well, but i think the contact cleaner is better at removing oxide (reminds me of a less oily wd40).
I used a sharpened toothpick (soaked in spray) to clean the microUSB port but i guess you could soak something like small brush as well (toothbrush?). Once cleaned i let a small droplet fall inside just for good measure.
After a couple of minutes letting the liquid evaporate, i booted my phone to see the bug completely GONE.
The phone has not been in direct contact with water, more than regular humidity, and once or twice in the bathroom while i took a shower. This proves to me that regular use could in fact produce this bug by messing up the microUSB port. And that Galaxy S had an excellent solution by providing a sliding cover.
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Hey guys,
So i flooded my phone, dried it, left in rice for 2 days and now when i connect it to my charger the screen goes up after a minute or so but its not charging. My screen shows battery icon with a bolt inside and a zero below, or battery with a cable inside and zero below. Any idea what can i do to fix this? I can boot to bootloarder mode, but when I'm trying to boot to recovery/other modes it goes back to 'charging screen'.
Thanks in advance!
The battery is eeprom controlled so you probably damaged it when teaching the phone to swim. Flashing will do nothing for it.
Putting the phone in rice is a bad idea as it isn't as absorbent as you think. You should have left it over a radiator for a week or so to evaporate the water before even thinking about switching it on, but by then the damage was probably already done.
If it doesnt start working in week or so then expect it to be expensive to fix.
Beamed in by telepathy.
Not sure what eeprom is, but if its in the part below, then i could replace it myself with no problem. What are Your thougts? I know that more thing may be broken, but if it would go back to life i would be glad because I don't want to spend money on any new phone, maybe apart from S8/pixel but its expensive as hell.
https://e.allegroimg.com/original/0115f6/28e0dc9447338f8114880dfb6c1e
If i couldn't repair this bad boy then I would probably go with 6s, but I'm not sure if I want to make the transition to iOS.
Cheers and thanks for previous reply
Okay, hello XDA Forums peoples! Ive been lurking here for like a decade. I feel bad for bothering you nice people, but now I'm at my wits end with this phone.
Okay, so, long story short:
Z Fold 3, let it run the One U.I. 4 update, bricked the whole phone, wouldnt come back on. This happens a week away from being out of warranty. So i get samsung to agree to let Asurion/uBreakiFix repair it (I almost always fix my own electronics, I hate Asurion, I've had problems dealing with them before, but its free so whatever). Well they get it working, i asked what they did and they were basically like 'uhhh idk'. I assume it was just an 'unplug the battery and plug it back in' kind of thing.
Anyways fast forward to a couple months ago. Im walking along the creek, i always keep my phone in my backpack for safety. Zipper on my backpack comes open some, phone falls out and directly into the water for about 3-5 seconds. Goes black within 15 minutes. Alright, so it seems like maybe the boys who worked on this didnt seal it back properly. Whatever.
I let it dry for about 4 or 5 days. Comes back on, everything works except the front screen's digitizer(which is cool for me, because the inside screen still works fine) and its reporting too cold to charge, so now once the battery runs out i have a new foldable brick! Yay! I check the battery temperature thats reported in settings and its completely fine. I hit it with a hair dryer for like 5 minutes to try and trip the thermometer, and nothing happens.
I tried some cheap shots in the dark, i replace the USB charging board, i replace the wireless charging coil, both of which have thermistors on other older samsung phones, so i figured it was a decent guess. Still too cold to charge.
So I find a schematic, or not exactly a schematic, but like a boardview, i guess. So at least i know where the thermistors are to check them. Theres about 10 thermistors on the main and sub boards. 5 of which are covered by metal shielding which i am just terrified of trying to remove, mainly because i havent done it before. So i check the other half.
The thermistors used in these phones are like inverse, so they have less resistance for higher temps and more resistance for lower temps. If one of them is dead, it will have like "maximum resistance", right? Which would report the coldest possible temperature, right? So that all makes sense, to me at least.
The 5 i can get to with my meter to check, they seem to work completely fine. From what research ive done they seem to be like 100k resistors when measured at ~70 degrees f, and i can watch the resistance go up and down when its cooled or heated past that temperature. Okay, perfect. That all checks out.
Because the other ones are under some metal shielding, i assume theyre most likely fine because any water would have a harder time getting in there. So i skip to the most expensive option so far: i buy two replacement batteries. The schematics do not include the battery, so i dont know where the thermistors are on my current batteries to check them, if that was the problem.
Well, batteries came yesterday, i pop them in, still too cold to charge. I've already ran the phone dead checking it, so i cant do any further diagnostics with the phone on. And now the most i get is a Yield sign with a thermometer in it when i plug it in.
Okay, so... Idk?? This problem is starting to get over my head. What do y'all think? It seems like my options are becoming more limited and expensive.
I can try and put a big blob of solder on the top of the shielding and pull it off to check the remaining thermistors, which seems to be how people remove those things. I also have have hot air at my disposal, which is always risky with tiny things because too high airspeed might blow components away on the board and then i'll probably cry.
It could just be a connector somewhere on some flex cable? Maybe? I mean like maybe what if one of them is for reporting temperature, and water corrosion is stopping it from sending a signal through???
Im fine with doing whatever, but i just want a charged battery first so i can recover my data before i do anything that drastic. I mean, back in the day they had 4 big pads on a removable battery. You could buy a universal samsung battery charger or rig a USB cable to charge it, but I have literally no idea what to do here. Does anyone know of some specialized battery charger that will connect to these flex cables?? That would be a gigantic help right now. Or if i knew where to get a Z Fold 3 just to pop it open and charge my battery with? Or maybe just sit there for 2 hours holding two wires to the positive and negative pins?!??!?? I dont know. Someone throw ideas at me, please!
Might be worth buying a bench power supply and either injecting voltage through the phone or connecting it to the cells to trickle charge them back up? Im not an expert it these just throwing ideas