Ok, guys. So I bought this phone called the evo 4g on the first day it came out. I called so many radioshacks that its not even funny how many I called. Ever since I've been in love with this phone that my girlfriend is getting jealous of it . I have searched through every forum of android (phandroid,android central, androidandme, youtube, androidpolice, etc.) I really want to learn more about this android platform from the basic terms to the development. What kind of books should I get for a noob like me? Or if you guys know of other websites that can look into. I know that it won't be an easy task but I am willing to put the necessary time and effort into this. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
thanks.
I love android so much that every day I look into the xda forums just to see whats new. Thanks xda for having this awesome forum.
Just learn java.
Then download all the tools and develop from eclipse.
It is a bit of a pain of a setup process, but once its done, its just a matter of learning java.
Have fun.
I recommend going to http://developer.android.com/ That's the official developer site. Just browse through getting started and move on through the other stuff. As said before, go the eclipse route, its all outlined there. I don't know much Java yet, but their tutorials will give you a good idea how apps work. To really make apps effectively you need to know Java and XML.
I also got some books from here: http://commonsware.com/. You buy a fairly cheap subscription for a year of having access to all their books and updates to those books. I don't think they've updated for 2.2 yet, but they are up to 2.1 with revisions coming soon for 2.2.
Those are probably the two best sources I've found so far. Your other option is App Inventor from Google. Its a visual developing environment. Its fairly easy to use and a cool concept, but won't really let you do as much yet. But you can test basic development there: http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/
I would also suggest just read through these forums often. You learn a lot through tinkering and seeing what others are doing.
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thanks for your help guys, I'll look into it. Yeah, I know that why I like this forum.
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Hi Guys,
So I looked in the general android development and DINC development but did not really find much. Basically I am looking into getting into Android Development. I just graduated Clarkson University yesterday and am going to work for Procter and Gamble and am going to have a lot of free time nights/weekends and want to get into this. As for my coding experience, I do not have much in java, however, I have taken a few comp sci classes in high school and have used MatLAB and LabVIEW a lot during college as a Mech E. So I am very familiar with coding and the logic behind it, just a matter of learning a new language.
I have started by downloading the Android SDK (just updated to 2.3) and have been doing a few of the tutorials they have on developers.android site such as Hello World, however this seems more geared to developing apps, which I do have a few ideas for. But what I would like to get into right now is some ROM development for the DINC as I have a few ideas for this too and would like to start with this.
So I was wondering if anyone could give some device on how they got started? Just pulled the code from HTC and opened it up and started looking around? Do a lot of you use Eclipse for development as they seem to suggest for apps? Is there any good guides to getting into ROM development as I have not quite found any? Also does anyone have any ideas and need some help work on things, I think this would be a good way to learn.
Thank you,
Brendan
Hello these links might help.
Porting
http://source.android.com/
Source
http://android.git.kernel.org/
CyanogenMod
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
CVPCS
http://howto.ccroms.net/
XDA - Compile AOSP Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561
Just realize it is a lot of work. You can start from pure source, or from CM, or CVPCS. Starting from pure source will give lots of problems but will probably teach you a lot about the system. Either way those links should be of some assistance. Look at CM device setup to see how device setups work. He has a working setup for most devices.
Alright! Another one comes aboard. Good luck man, keep us posted, ask questiions here cuz most are very knowledgeable and willing to help out. Dont give up, get us something 2.3 and very much thanks in advance for doing what you do.
Glad to see a thread like this. I have been interested in doing ROMs for a long time now but didn't really know where to start. This should get me running
If you run into any problems don't hesitate to contact me. You can reach by twitter at @linuxmotion or pm me for an email. Though I am relatively new, I can surely help if the you want some. Hope those links helped
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In also looking to get my feet wet
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Hey guys, I posted this under android development a while back and it didn't get any attention. I was wondering if any of you could recommend me to a website or video series on learning to develop for android. I have some knowledge in Java and I want to start developing for android.
Thanks!
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I'm sure there may be videos. But i used the tutorials given by google on the android dev site like the hello world tutorial and others. And if you just google android app dev tutorials you get enormous amounts of tutorials on how to write apps such as layouts, splash screens, etc. It took me about a week to get something basic going and 1-2 months to get something a little more complex. But i had a bit of college code courses. I just consumed every tutorial out there is the only way to really get it.
Thanks, but unfortunately i am in the 8th grade and at my level there is not much in the way of courses at my public schools.do you have any other sites you might recommend? I will defiantly check out the "android dev site" as well.
thanks again!
Well i only had one class of c++, but it helped tremendously. You can research online for equivalent help. Its a lot of work though. Honestly i read a million tutorials, there wasnt one single site. Just start reading everything you see is the only way. It will be sliw and tough at first but will get better quickly. Just install eclipse from android dev, then follow the hello world tutorial and install your first written app to your phone. Its very easy.
This list might help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17691710&postcount=13
Thanks, I've had eclipse and made simple apps (simple counter app) for android but I wanted to further my knowledge.
Thanks for your help everyone!
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i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
I'm in the same boat bro. I wanna get into it as well, although I don't have the time to devote to it right now.
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i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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JDK, SDK, apktool, gimp, notepad++,and there's a search tool that I can't remember off the top of my head. That's all I got right now. And all I'm gonna run for a while.
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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wow good stuff bro thanks alot
wow this is actually just about what im looking for. its not very in depth, mostly the basics from the looks of it, but it sure as hell is a great start. i appreciate it.
I'm taking a java course this summer to help me make some ROMs. I would recommend it.
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i would but i dont have the time nor the money for it. my dads got his masters in computers tho i could probably get help from him for things like that.
My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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Theming doesn't require java knowledge
Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Good luck man. I've tried finding help to no avail. Programming and all this good stuff takes time and skill.... Very little time on people's hands these days....
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If I can, I would recommend reading through "Java Methods A and AB" to learn java. Very well written and theres a pdf of it online if you search too.
Thats how I learned and other than that, its just putting lots of time into it. I research everything I come across that I'm not familiar with, and now apart from the things actually covered in that book, I know how to make nice GUI's, how to cryptographic encoders work, how to bundle resources with a runnable JAR, etc. You just have to be willing to put the time in to learn, but from there its easy
Also, if you come across it too early, I would suggest not messing with threading and concurrency until you have a good grasp of java
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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Thanks for the info. I am very willing to take classes IRL but I'm nothing but a middle school student. I'll do the best I can to find some way to learn these concepts. Hopefully you'll be seeing me around in the Developer's section sometime soon!
Hey jtkemp.
I'm a sophomore in high school and I've been trying to learn to program. Here's what advice I can give you. First get a basic understanding of java, then once you have that down go though the android programming libraries at android.devolper.com. Then after that I have been taking apps currently out there already and modifying them to get better at it. Stay in touch and maybe we can help reach other out, I've been hoping I could find someone that would even let me help with like some stupid stuff they didn't want to do but so far no one. Good luck! It's a lot of fun!
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Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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I use eclipse and find the environment a lot better than other IDE's. I've tried netbeans but went back to eclipse because for me eclipse is just more intuitive
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I learned a lot of development knowledge from just hanging out in an irc with some real cool dudes, learned how to at least understand java and a little c from studying some stuff, I'd recommend the same. A lot of people don't wanna help you because they don't know how much you know. Try to get a development presense, make a theme or theme an app. Just your name out. Give some devs some logs! Make some friends, they'll help you when you get stuck but no one will hold your hand. Do you use Linux? Learn the Linux command line. Try making a kernel for it, whether it works or not is errelevant, just learn the process and get an idea of what all that entails.
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Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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Check out xda-university too, I think that would be a great place to start
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Try stuff besides Ubuntu too, lots of different distros with, I think, better performance. Ex: I use mint 11. I used sabayon for a while too.
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Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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Yeah I know a lot of people that prefer Mint over Ubuntu....I have yet to try it myself as I'm very pleased with my setup right now...the Faience theme is nice
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Thenewboston.com beginner java video tutorials helped get me through my java class. I find I learn visually very well. There are also android development tutorials on his site. Good luck!
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Guys, Most of my questions are getting ignored. I am hoping it's because no one has an answer and not just because those that have answers choose to not answer my question for whatever reason. Although a couple questions should be easy answers for people. Just not easy for me. LOL
In any event, I want to Develop for the Galaxy S6 EDGE. I am wondering how I set up an EDGE emulator in Android Studio.
If I can't, is there a better Program to develop with that does have an S6 EDGE emulator?
Once I get that question answered, I would like to know if I can make a copy of my stock ROM, and port it in to whatever tool I will be using to develop with.
Answers to these questions (Even if it's a Google Link and you telling me to go here and read, so long as the page I land on does indeed answer the questions) would be GREATLY appreciated. More appreciated than just people who come in, Look, and then go out.
Thanks All!!
Judging from your post count I can see that your just getting started here, now if you take time to read all the threads concerning the S6 & S6EDGE you can see that the development here is at a snails pace.
The main reason is that this phone is a whole different creature as compared to all other android phones before it, and anything that worked before doesn't work the same way now when it comes to developing on this platform ( 64 bit as compared to 32 bit operating systems ) as it did in the past.
The programs you refer to may not even be updated as of yet to work with the new operating system let alone the Samsung security that's been implemented on the S6e that can brick your phone with FRP turning your phone into an expensive paperweight.
This android is a whole new recipe with a lack of ingredients that devs are having trouble finding.
Don't think your been ignored, it's just that not to much is going on here and it may be a while before new technology comes along that can make development what it used to be.
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Thanks for the response Pancho, I realize this is a whole different beast to work with. I was posting my questions because I do see some development going on so I was hoping the Devs responsible for what has been done, would step up and answer my questions.
That being said tho, 1 question does remain that should be answerable (and that I've asked but was never responded to), can A Rom posted here, be downloaded to a computer and then imported into Android Studio (Or another Android Dev Program). If it's able to be imported into Android Studio, I should then be able to fire up an emulator with that rom loaded and work on it.
Make no mistake tho, I do NOT plan on KANGING anything. I have 2 reasons for why I want to know this information.
1. Because I'd like to see what a rom looks like in action before I put it on my phone (I don't like flashing and reflashing and reflashing ect...)
2. I can see how another developer did what did and as such learn from it. I learn by deconstructing so to speak.
I would research Android Studio and find there forum or website and go from there, I never heard of it and don't know if the "one" developer here even uses it, but the only input your going to get is from someone who uses the program.
Try YouTube, maybe someone's posted a video or tutorial on how to use this or similar programs.
Also if you go to the "Android Development & Hacking" section in the main forum you may find what your looking for.
Google is your friend. :sly:
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