Autostarts - opinions, settings? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone use this app? I've installed it out of curiosity and found TONS of apps that start after boot. Will pruning down this list speed up my phone at all?
I've disabled some of the apps I never use such as Mail, FM Radio, Facebook for HTC Sense, Flickr, etc. Can I go further and disable apps I DO usem but stop them starting on their own?
Some of the ones I'm thinking of are Peep, FaBook Chat, HTC Widget Downloader.
And what's Open Sense Plugin Manager?
Can I disable Bug Report? Is Rosie Utility needed since I run ADW Launcher?
Updater? DRM Protected Content Storage? Media Storage? HTC Message Uploader?
Finally, am I wasting my time with all this?!!

Why not just test it out? Try removing a few apps from start up and then reboot the phone.
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Tander_ZA said:
Why not just test it out? Try removing a few apps from start up and then reboot the phone.
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Because I'm lazy and stupid, and wondered if someone else had done the hard work already, lol!

it wont stop apps starting, just stop them at boot, apps can start themseleves at any time so you will prob see all the apps running after a few mins anyway

Most apps in that list are not infact apps but widgets for apps.
I dissable everything (after boot) that I know I won't be using the widgets for.
I also dissable in "sms recieved" - Messaging, this is because I don't use stock messaging, I use handcent.
Just read all the headings, go down and dissable things you think you will never use in those situations.
If things don't play nice then you can always untick them again.

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[Q] Disable certain apps from launching on their own without a task killer?

Is there an app that can edit app launch preferences, not just run and kill the apps as they start? Or is there a file that can be edited to keep certain apps from launching on their own? Thank you!
I think you can use Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps, but I don't know if that is persistent or it resets upon reboot. You could give it a shot.
TB does keep them from loading once you freeze the app.
Autostarts.
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So TB doesnt just kill them as they start it actually tells them not to load?
+1 for Autostarts.
Raillery said:
So TB doesnt just kill them as they start it actually tells them not to load?
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No, it freezes them so that the phone doesn't know they exist (they're not installed any more), so their launch-on-boot entries aren't there any more.
In other words, if you freeze them, they're not installed any more, so you can't use them.
does any one have a list of the app that can be frozzen without disruption the use of the phone? also im ussing LP so the sense can go too? if yes what are the sense apps

[Q] sense roms and force close

Ive looked all over the net and xda for what this means and what's causing this, but its one of those ask 10 people, get 10 different answer type things. It seems that every sense rom i flash, i end up getting "process com.htc.bgp" has stopped working or something to that effect, then it force closes. Not sure what this is and any help would be nice. Thanks for taking the time to at least read this.
fudplayers said:
Ive looked all over the net and xda for what this means and what's causing this, but its one of those ask 10 people, get 10 different answer type things. It seems that every sense rom i flash, i end up getting "process com.htc.bgp" has stopped working or something to that effect, then it force closes. Not sure what this is and any help would be nice. Thanks for taking the time to at least read this.
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it usually is when you remove to much htc stuff
lol...guess that would explain most of it. I do remove a decent amount of apps, guess i shouldnt. Thanks for the speedy response too, Joel.
not sure if this already posted, but wondered if i froze certain apps via titanium backup, would it cause that message to appear also?
fudplayers said:
not sure if this already posted, but wondered if i froze certain apps via titanium backup, would it cause that message to appear also?
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yea freezing them is sort of like removing them because HTC no longer reads them as apps
the following i have found to be safe to remove
stocks app and widget
flicker app
twitter app and widget
peep app and widget
facebook app and widget
friendstream app and widgets
I have not recieved that message on the following roms
kingdom all versions
uber shift
redemption rom 2.4
nils business gingersense all
uber kingdom all
my guess on what you cant freeze or remove are:
Mail app
messaging app (i know it sucks compaired to market ones but if you remove it issues arise)
clock app+widget
calander app+widget
htc likes
htc hub
dialer (duh no dialer cant make calls)
sense can be removed but not with titanium backup
people.apk (address book dialer will use this)

Bloatware safe to remove from 2.3

So I have a list of applications safe to remove or move:
3G Mobile Hotspot
Amazon MP3
App Sharing
Apps (VCast.apk)
Backup Assistant
Bookmark Widget
Calculator + Widget
Calendar + Widget
Car Panel
City ID
Clock Widget
Flickr
FMRadio + Widget
Footprints + Widget
Friendstream + Widget (If you sync Facebook, Flickr, or Twitter accounts with your phone and remove this, you will get a persistent sync symbol)
Messages Widget
Music + Widget
My Verizon Mobile
News + Widget
PDF Viewer
Peep
Photo Widget
Quickoffice
RSS Reader
Skype
Slacker
Stocks + Widget
Teeter
VCast
Voice Dialer
Visual VM
VZ Navigator
VZW Skype
Weather + Widget
Feel free to tell me of any I missed, or of any corrections, and I will update accordingly. I've made the list with Titanium Backup Users in mind. How you choose to remove or move them is up to you, and this is mainly just to be used as a resource. I will post any side affects from removing certain apps as I learn of them as well.
themusicmonkey said:
So I have a list of applications safe to remove or move:
Amazon mp3
CDROM.ISO
City ID
Stocks + Widget
Flickr
Footprints
Slacker
Radio
Teeter
VCast
VZ Navigator
Droid boot sound
VZW Skype
Feel free to tell me of any I missed and I will update accordingly.
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Peep and its widgets should be safe too.
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Friends Stream and News as well, I always uninstall those in custom roms that I flash.
I made some changes, and added some I'm questioning
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Backup assistant should be safe to remove, as well as the clock widget.
Pretty much any app that isn't the phone or contacts apk should be safe, too, I think.
(actual apps. Don't delete stuff like CertInstaller.apk or whatever. But if it shows up in your app drawer, it's generally okay to get rid of.)
The only thing I'm not sure about is the visual voicemail. It may act funny with the messages app, since there's a slider for it.
Cdrom.iso really shouldnt be removed. It can cause issues with adb and mounting usb storage. You can dissable the annoying vzw installer by dialing ##program# and hitting call. Enter six zeros for the password. Then go to feature settings and tap on cd rom and dissable it. Hit the menu button and select comit changes. Your phone will reboot and the vzw installer nag wont be there the next time you connect to your pc.
cmlusco said:
Cdrom.iso really shouldnt be removed. It can cause issues with adb and mounting usb storage. You can dissable the annoying vzw installer by dialing ##program# and hitting call. Enter six zeros for the password. Then go to feature settings and tap on cd rom and dissable it. Hit the menu button and select comit changes. Your phone will reboot and the vzw installer nag wont be there the next time you connect to your pc.
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Okay, will fix the list.
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cmlusco said:
Cdrom.iso really shouldnt be removed. It can cause issues with adb and mounting usb storage. You can dissable the annoying vzw installer by dialing ##program# and hitting call. Enter six zeros for the password. Then go to feature settings and tap on cd rom and dissable it. Hit the menu button and select comit changes. Your phone will reboot and the vzw installer nag wont be there the next time you connect to your pc.
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What kind of problems? I have never had a problem with the cdrom.iso file removed.
jeffgman said:
What kind of problems? I have never had a problem with the cdrom.iso file removed.
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Well i had issues with adb where i couldnt get it to see the phone. I tried everything i could think of and then i found a post somewhere here on xda about it. I put the cdrom.iso file back and adb started working fine again.
cmlusco said:
Well i had issues with adb where i couldnt get it to see the phone. I tried everything i could think of and then i found a post somewhere here on xda about it. I put the cdrom.iso file back and adb started working fine again.
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Weird. I removed the cdrom file and I can use adb with no problems. I guess it is one of those works for some and not for others issues.
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I always remove ALL of the voice stuff, plus the sound recorder as well. One question I have wondered though is would I be able to remove friendstream before signing into Facebook and avoid the constant sync? Or is there some way around it?
AudioNerd said:
I always remove ALL of the voice stuff, plus the sound recorder as well. One question I have wondered though is would I be able to remove friendstream before signing into Facebook and avoid the constant sync? Or is there some way around it?
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I keep it myself, so I can't help with that. I just noted the cause and effect of it. I might mess with it a little later...
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AudioNerd said:
I always remove ALL of the voice stuff, plus the sound recorder as well. One question I have wondered though is would I be able to remove friendstream before signing into Facebook and avoid the constant sync? Or is there some way around it?
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I can confirm that removing Friendstream BEFORE signing into a Facebook sync account does not start a constant sync.
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Is there a preferred method for removing these apps?
Delete from system/app with root explorer or uninstall/freeze with titanium backup.
themusicmonkey said:
I can confirm that removing Friendstream BEFORE signing into a Facebook sync account does not start a constant sync.
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Awesome, thanks for the clarification on that. Next ROM I load I will give it a shot.
k_nivesout said:
Delete from system/app with root explorer or uninstall/freeze with titanium backup.
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Does it matter if I delete them vs. move the APKs to another location? Would I ever need them again for anything?
Well they'll still be taking up space if you move them to another location on the phone, but they wont run or be in your app drawer. If you want to have them just in case, you could always move them to the SD card, then your computer? I can't think of any reason that you'd need them though, even if you wanted them at a later time, you could find them on the market or with a quick googling.
I just back them up and then uninstall them.
I've added Apps (VCast.apk) to the list.
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You might want to add HtcLoggers.apk to the list, in light of the recently discovered security hole.
DInc with CyanogenMod 6.1 & Invisiblek #28 kernel.

**AMAZING APP** Autostarts (Still useful, let me know your thoughts)

After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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Why not just get root explorer and delete them?
WhiteWidows said:
Why not just get root explorer and delete them?
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Try it... A lot of them are processes that cannot be deleted.
Besides...
It isn't about deleting apps.
It's about controlling when an app will start (or when it's triggered to start) based off actions.
Why do I need app x,y, z starting when i send a text message? Answer... I don't...
From the market:
Keep control over your phone: See what applications do behind your back.
Shows you what apps run on phone startup, and what other events trigger in the background. Root users can disable unwanted autostarts and speed up their phone boot.
Note: Root-Access *is* required to make changes. Otherwise, this application will be read-only.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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jhgti said:
Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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Let me rephrase as I'm not making my point (sorry!!).
Google Maps will start at bootup... also when you change connectivity on your device.
I only want Maps open when I open it...
This app lets you prevent things from opening based off certain events (boot up, outgoing sms, incoming call, connectivity change, etc).
So freezing or deleting would remove the app that you might otherwise want.
Hope that makes sense.
Oh i see yes that is true some apps will come on as soon as connectivity changes, If find good settings post some screen shot and i will do the same
h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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This is a VERY handy app. thanks loads. this is definitely a function that android should incorporate stock like they did with task killer
I purchased this app back when I first got my evo and I am now using it with my ET. It is a very handy app to have.

Google Account integration GO AWAY !!!

Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
For the google account I don't know, but about the other app you can try to freeze them with titanium backup.
tomthemd said:
Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
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Best way is to create a new gmail email address for your android mobile.
that email address would be anonymous.
Needs 2 GO
Thank You for the replies so far.
I would like to use my normal mail addresses.
The reason behind me disliking the current state is:
Google takes over the whole device. It literally takes a dump over all the phones functions.
I dont want that.
When I log in to my mailaccount, I want to do mails ... and not being logged into all google apps on the phone.
(and into the internet google stuff as well)
Now its with facebook and twitter that I dont want it to track, record and analyze my every move.
(Thats why it needs to go)
tomthemd said:
Thank You for the replies so far.
I would like to use my normal mail addresses.
The reason behind me disliking the current state is:
Google takes over the whole device. It literally takes a dump over all the phones functions.
I dont want that.
When I log in to my mailaccount, I want to do mails ... and not being logged into all google apps on the phone.
(and into the internet google stuff as well)
Now its with facebook and twitter that I dont want it to track, record and analyze my every move.
(Thats why it needs to go)
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What you want is not very easy to achieve.
If you are rooted, I guess it is much easier. the customisation can go deeper.
Steps (in my opinion):
1. At first run of the phone, don't log with google account! don't check any service related to google (keep my phone backed up with google account, for example).
2. before doing anything else, disable the apps you don't need. If you are root you can even uninstall them with some apk (as you are not logged to google, you can not use market, so the app should be saved on sd card before - via backup or whatever).
3. also disable the gapps you don't want (gtalk, etc).
4. remove the settings about the location. activate the mock location in developer section of settings.
5. log to your google account. immediately after, go to accounts and sync and:
a. disable sync (so that no google contacts are synced)
b. go to the settings of the account and uncheck everything that you don't want to be synced. i think you can do only this step, but it is your choice.
6. if you are root, you can install a program to further control the behavior of the apps. it is a personal option, there are multiple choices.
7. make a reboot. your phone should be free (or close) of any google 'integration'. any apps that you don't want to run should not run (twitter, fb, etc).
if I have skipped anything, anyone can update the steps.
Get an iPhone or WP
You can selectively sign out of all those apps. YouTube has the option. In Settings>Accounts & Sync uncheck everything you don't want to sync with Google. It's all there, you just have to set it up the way you want. You aren't being forced to are services you don't want to. The only things that need a Google account to work are Play Store and Gmail, for obvious reasons. Even Google Maps won't log you in automatically unless you open Latitude. YouTube signs you in but you can sign out. If you're using any version of Sense or AOSP GB, even the contacts app allows you to store contacts in phone only without syncing to Google. And it won't restore your Google contacts if you uncheck it in settings. In ICS, yes, the People app requires a Google account and can't store local contacts, but if it's THAT big an issue for you, just use a third party dialer like exDialer which has that functionality.
If you want a complete Google-free Android experience, flash CyanogenMod and don't flash Gapps after. You'll have a fully working Android phone minus Google. This also means you won't have Play Store and will have to sideload any apps you want, but that's your caveat.
And about getting rid of apps like Facebook and Twitter (which since you're unable to do, I presume you're running the stock HTC Sense firmware), read around and learn how to root your phone, and then delete the apks for those apps from /system/app. You can unroot after rooting, if that's an issue for you too.
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sashank said:
You can selectively sign out of all those apps. YouTube has the option. In Settings>Accounts & Sync uncheck everything you don't want to sync with Google. It's all there, you just have to set it up the way you want. You aren't being forced to are services you don't want to. The only things that need a Google account to work are Play Store and Gmail, for obvious reasons. Even Google Maps won't log you in automatically unless you open Latitude. YouTube signs you in but you can sign out. If you're using any version of Sense or AOSP GB, even the contacts app allows you to store contacts in phone only without syncing to Google. And it won't restore your Google contacts if you uncheck it in settings. In ICS, yes, the People app requires a Google account and can't store local contacts, but if it's THAT big an issue for you, just use a third party dialer like exDialer which has that functionality.
If you want a complete Google-free Android experience, flash CyanogenMod and don't flash Gapps after. You'll have a fully working Android phone minus Google. This also means you won't have Play Store and will have to sideload any apps you want, but that's your caveat.
And about getting rid of apps like Facebook and Twitter (which since you're unable to do, I presume you're running the stock HTC Sense firmware), read around and learn how to root your phone, and then delete the apks for those apps from /system/app. You can unroot after rooting, if that's an issue for you too.
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You are right with most of the points.
There is only one comment from my side: he does not need to root it. the applications can be disabled without root. the only drawback is the fact that the apps are still there, but they will never start....
Correct. He can do that too. But his issue was that he wants to get rid of them completely.
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tomthemd said:
Hi all,
I am a conservative phone user.
What does that mean ?
It means that I want to do something, without it affecting everything else.
For instance: I want to have my emails on my ANDROID.
NO, I dont want my Google contacts in my contact list ... and ...
NO, I dont want to view Youtube videos constantly being logged into my Google account.
I want a perfectly "disintegrated" phone. Where one app doesnt affect all the others.
Also - I hate FACEBOOK, TWITTER and all the other SOCIAL SPY MEDIA out there.
I dont want them on my phone.
NO, I dont want to deactivate them
NO, I dont want to del the icon, just for the program to stay still.
I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE
And YOU can hopefully tell me HOW TO accomplish these two things... Please
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Lol, I know what you mean!
You might like LBE privacy guard if you are rooted. It let's you decide which apps can access internet, GPS location, phone id etc.
I also use mybackup pro to freeze a lot of the preinstalled junk that runs in the background. If you are freezing system apps take a nandroid backup first just incase you freeze something that you shouldn't!
There are some apps, which you wont be able to disintegrate without causing something else to crash.
Best way in my books is not to sign in using google under accounts, instead use email app to configure imap gmail.
Or even better, learn how to cook, and make a barebone ROM...maybe you can share it with us if you do get a ROM like that...
okty2k said:
You are right with most of the points.
There is only one comment from my side: he does not need to root it. the applications can be disabled without root. the only drawback is the fact that the apps are still there, but they will never start....
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Imo rooting is the only clean way to remove apps. Using an app to freeze apps causes a layer of crap running that will only hinder performance and potentially cause issues. What he wants is a non associated device. So I agree with rooting and then installing Aosp without gapps. Rooting is so easy anyways you might as well if you want that level of customization.
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Gizmoe said:
Imo rooting is the only clean way to remove apps. Using an app to freeze apps causes a layer of crap running that will only hinder performance and potentially cause issues. What he wants is a non associated device. So I agree with rooting and then installing Aosp without gapps. Rooting is so easy anyways you might as well if you want that level of customization.
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You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
hans moleman said:
You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
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Really? I thought some apps could do it without root, but I have never personally tried it, so you are right I'm sure, and it makes sense. I suppose I see the benefit of freezing too I just would rather remove things all together. Seems cleaner to me.
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hans moleman said:
You can't freeze apps without root anyway. Freezing apps does not hinder performance unless you freeze something you shouldn't. There are performance benefits to be had by freezing junk that persistently runs in the background as long as you are careful what you freeze.
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You can disable the app (without root). That way it will never start....

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