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Hi--I am a generally technically adept Evo owner who would like to root to a Froyo custom ROM, but I've never had to root anything before. I've read threads meant to act as guides (like those linked in the sticky thread), but there seems like so much I don't understand. I know these are simple questions, but my searching didn't really help. I'd be really grateful if anyone had any helpful answers.
Question 1: Does anyone have any recommendations for the best custom ROM that will have these features?:
Froyo (of course)
SenseUI (I prefer it, but have nothing against stock Android)
Ability to restore my apps (via Titanium Backup, I assume)
Unlocked wifi tethering (via app or Froyo's in-built capability)
Unlocked FPS (I have a Novatec panel)
Same or better camera/video capabilities as stock SenseUI (i.e., nothing broken at least)
My current software: Stock Evo, no OTA updates applied, with Superuser Unrevoked permissions.
(That is, I have not applied any OTA updates since I bought it, June 11th. I'm running 2.1-update1, version 1.32.651.6. I did the Unrevoked 1-click "root" that in fact only gave me Superuser permissions (the Unrevoked that was first released, not the Unrevoked2 or 3 updates). I.e., I can use the wifi tether and Titanium Backup, and I've backed up my apps/settings with it.)
Question 2: Can anyone tell me in a simplest method to safely root and install the custom ROM, considering I have no OTA updates and unrevoked superuser permissions?
Specifically, I've read guides that list 3 steps (gaining root permissions, unlocking NAND, gaining "full" root), but I still have a lot of questions:
What does it mean to "flash a recovery"?
[*]When do I have to manually install radio updates, and how do I know which ones I need?
[*]If I decide I'd rather go back to stock, ever, can I do that?
[*]What is the likelihood of a brick, and can I repair a brick?
[*]Can Titanium Backup really restore all my apps after I do a full wipe and root? (just to calm my anxiety, please...)
The best guide I've seen is the "IDIOT-PROOF" root guide, at thread 701004 (sorry, new user restriction, can't post links), but I don't know if it's still current. That also seems more complex than SimpleRoot (also don't know if it's current).
I think I'm looking for the simplest root method with the least possibility of screwing everything up. (It pains me to say it, but a brainless iPhone-like "slide-to-jailbreak" method would be great.)
Sorry for the newbie questions. If anyone has any advice/answers, I'd be glad to hear them!
Well best bet for you is probably going to be either the one click simpleroot, you can go to simpleroot.com its there for download. Of course it depends on exactly what software version you are on. As far as your rom choice there is no rom that offers all of those things, probably closest will be stock rooted 2.2, then you can either live with the 30fps restriction or flash a custome kernel and live with 3mp camera .... you're choice. the recovery is a program that the phone boots into that has nothing to do with the rom at all, with this you can select several operation to make on the rom. You need recovery because you cant modify the rom when you are booted in the rom. Anyway this is all a very basic explanation. My recommendation would be to follow toasts part 1 then part 2 to root and unlock nand. (unlocking nand allows writing and writing to the system area of the rom while booted into the rom) then you will be all set to flash any rom you like. feel free to pm if you need more info As far as knowing what you need I would recommend starting with netarchy's stock rooted 2.2 odexed version. In his post he will tell you flash rom then radio then wimax, all of these files are included there in the post. Then as you learn you can switch between roms to explore what each one can do for you and decide which you like best. Yes Titanium backuop will work with this.
For me and I have flashed every rom lol. Daily driver would have to be the fastest and stabliest rom which is in my opinion Caulkins v1.02 froyo. Use simple root for 1.32. Then use the flash recovery and pick ra recovery.
ifly4vamerica said:
As far as your rom choice there is no rom that offers all of those things, probably closest will be stock rooted 2.2, then you can either live with the 30fps restriction or flash a custome kernel and live with 3mp camera .... you're choice.
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Really? How about a ROM with, say, just 2.2 + SenseUI, with all the standard features, and wifi tether enabled?
Thanks for the advice, by the way, both of you.
ScaryBugThing said:
Hi--I am a generally technically adept Evo owner who would like to root to a Froyo custom ROM, but I've never had to root anything before. I've read threads meant to act as guides (like those linked in the sticky thread), but there seems like so much I don't understand. I know these are simple questions, but my searching didn't really help. I'd be really grateful if anyone had any helpful answers.
Question 1: Does anyone have any recommendations for the best custom ROM that will have these features?:
Froyo (of course)
SenseUI (I prefer it, but have nothing against stock Android)
Ability to restore my apps (via Titanium Backup, I assume)
Unlocked wifi tethering (via app or Froyo's in-built capability)
Unlocked FPS (I have a Novatec panel)
Same or better camera/video capabilities as stock SenseUI (i.e., nothing broken at least)
My current software: Stock Evo, no OTA updates applied, with Superuser Unrevoked permissions.
(That is, I have not applied any OTA updates since I bought it, June 11th. I'm running 2.1-update1, version 1.32.651.6. I did the Unrevoked 1-click "root" that in fact only gave me Superuser permissions (the Unrevoked that was first released, not the Unrevoked2 or 3 updates). I.e., I can use the wifi tether and Titanium Backup, and I've backed up my apps/settings with it.)
Question 2: Can anyone tell me in a simplest method to safely root and install the custom ROM, considering I have no OTA updates and unrevoked superuser permissions?
Specifically, I've read guides that list 3 steps (gaining root permissions, unlocking NAND, gaining "full" root), but I still have a lot of questions:
What does it mean to "flash a recovery"?
[*]When do I have to manually install radio updates, and how do I know which ones I need?
[*]If I decide I'd rather go back to stock, ever, can I do that?
[*]What is the likelihood of a brick, and can I repair a brick?
[*]Can Titanium Backup really restore all my apps after I do a full wipe and root? (just to calm my anxiety, please...)
The best guide I've seen is the "IDIOT-PROOF" root guide, at thread 701004 (sorry, new user restriction, can't post links), but I don't know if it's still current. That also seems more complex than SimpleRoot (also don't know if it's current).
I think I'm looking for the simplest root method with the least possibility of screwing everything up. (It pains me to say it, but a brainless iPhone-like "slide-to-jailbreak" method would be great.)
Sorry for the newbie questions. If anyone has any advice/answers, I'd be glad to hear them!
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I'd like to suggest something before you actually move forward. I usually back up with MyBackup and with Titanium backup. I am completely rooted and nand unlocked but something i've seen Titanium for some reason after i grant it superuser tell me my phone isn't rooted on different roms, also i have seen Mybackup crash the sense and try to reboot it over and over in a loop. Luckily I did a Nandroid restore to a more stable setup. Some of the other forum members here are more likely than not less new to the process than myself, but I thought i had covered everything and when i did simple root, I was on 1.47, with the factory reset and everything lost my data... luckily it wasn't a lot or important. I just thought i'd let you know that it is not a bad thing to have a zipped backup of all of your apks+data, and your contacts with both programs before you go ahead. Hope that possibly can steer you out of trouble if one of them fails to perform as it should. Best of luck.
Exohart said:
I'd like to suggest something before you actually move forward. I usually back up with MyBackup and with Titanium backup. ... Hope that possibly can steer you out of trouble if one of them fails to perform as it should. Best of luck.
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Cool, thanks for the tip.
You can get a rooted stock 2.2 ROM, odexed or deodexed. Then you can install a wifi tether app. Personally, I use Fresh 3.1.0.1, I don't notice any differences in general to stock, but you should probably just try different ROMs out and see which one you like. It's easy to switch around.
See this for ROMs.
As for rooting, You can use Simple Root, but I highly suggest doing it yourself using toast's or TheBiles' guides. You learn a lot and it's the same thing as using Simple Root, but you can deal with problems better (although I didn't have any issues when I did mine).
See here for guides.
There is a lot of info on how to get around any issues you have, so be sure to search if you do run into trouble.
And if you need the files for rooting, check here.
Awesome response, SilverZero, thanks! I'm starting to feel comfortable with the rooting procedure.
I think the difficulty I have in choosing a ROM is that many ROM threads don't list conclusively whether a feature works or not. So, for instance, I presume that the Fresh ROM has a fully working camera (8MP/720P with all settings), but I've read other ROM threads that talk about downgraded camera bugs, so I am not sure if I should assume things work fine. Conversely, I think wifi tethering doesn't work, since it *seems* to suggest it isn't working, but doesn't flat-out say so...
I don't suppose some source exists somewhere that lists/compares all of these ROMs' features in a table format, listing whether they work or not, or are downgraded? Having something like that in a central, often-updated location would be incredibly useful...
I used toast's method for rooting, and havent had any problems whatsoever. All I had to do after that, was install the new RA recovery image ( was more current ).
Is this the simplest way? probably not. But, i perfer doing the method with the most manual work. Automated processes tend to scare me, 'oh, our mod does steps 1 through 19 all at once'... well, thats fine, but what happens when it fails half way through? Toast's method, while a bit involved, is pretty simple, and if something happens, you can go "hey, when i do this command <whatever>, it does this, helps?!".
as for your 'questions 2s'
1: Are you sure you dont mean, flash from recovery? recovery is where you do all of your flashing, do your nandroid backups, and wiping. theres 3 ways to get there ( once your rooted/nand unlocked ).. volume -, and power while the phone is off, hold it til you get the menu. use quickboot ( a feature of damagecontrol mod ), or use adb using a command prompt on windows ( adb reboot recovery ).
2: Most people install radio updates when they go to change to new roms. The reason being, 2.2 'code' is based around having a certain radio version, and for things like 4g, and good 3g signal, you need to match.
personally, every time i go to install a new rom, i verify what the most recent radio version is out there, and install it ( same with wimax )
3: Once you are fully rooted, there are walktrhoughs for 'starting over / going back to stock'.. but I would just use one of the rooted stock images, as it gives you the ability to change your mind. for instance, right now 2.2 isnt rootable, so if you changed your mind after switching back to it, your kind of screwed. I'm not sure if the engineering image you install for root would go away if you reverted to stock/root though, as have never tried.
4: as long as you have the phone rooted, any 'bricking' that i have caused ( boot loops, power turning off on boot, etc ), were easily recoverable by just booting into recovery and reflashing. the only way I could see bricking in a totally bad way, would be if you somehow messed up the rooting process and corrupted the bootloader in such a way it couldnt recover. Otherwise, i have yet to see a rom that will flash / change your bootloader or recovery image, so it shouldnt be an issue.
5: It can, but i've seen issues where backing up stuff from a 2.1 rom, and installing a 2.2, causes weird issues. its safer to just redownload them if you are using a 2.2 rom. Another benefit of 2.2, is now google backs up your app selection you had installed, so when you wipe / flash a new rom, it auto-reinstalls all your apps you had from before ( it doesnt backup your settings though, just the applications themselves ).
ScaryBugThing said:
Awesome response, SilverZero, thanks! I'm starting to feel comfortable with the rooting procedure.
I think the difficulty I have in choosing a ROM is that many ROM threads don't list conclusively whether a feature works or not. So, for instance, I presume that the Fresh ROM has a fully working camera (8MP/720P with all settings), but I've read other ROM threads that talk about downgraded camera bugs, so I am not sure if I should assume things work fine. Conversely, I think wifi tethering doesn't work, since it *seems* to suggest it isn't working, but doesn't flat-out say so...
I don't suppose some source exists somewhere that lists/compares all of these ROMs' features in a table format, listing whether they work or not, or are downgraded? Having something like that in a central, often-updated location would be incredibly useful...
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Here's a project that one user is putting together comparing different ROMs.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aguc0npJCrWxdEFyU2NRNG1jNnRkY2trdXBsYlJLdWc&hl=en#gid=0
imiddlet said:
I used toast's method for rooting, ...
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Wow, thank you for taking the time--you really answered all of my questions.
SilverZero said:
Here's a project that one user is putting together comparing different ROMs.
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Greeeeat. Exactly what I was looking for.
You guys are awesome--I think I know what I need to know now, and in the next few days I will probably try rooting and installing Fresh Evo or BakedSnack. I'll update once I know how it went!
Urg...Well, I did the manual root method. Everything went fine through the initial root (using the classic method by toastcfh), and through the manual recovery mode where I made a nandroid backup.
Then, in recovery mode, I attempted to flash the latest Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1. It gave me no error messages, and I rebooted.
Now, it is stuck on an infinite reboot at the Fresh Evo ("FRESH!!!") bootup animation. It just keeps running that animation, never loading up. I've let that animation run about 15 times before I had to pull the battery to make it stop. Any time I try to boot the phone, I am stuck at that infinite reboot/load sequence.
The only thing I could do was hold Vol- while powering up to get into the bootloader and redo my stock root. I redid the Fresh Evo install, and it still just keeps rebooting for 10 minutes, before I pull the battery. I'll try Baked Snack next, but I don't want to press my luck with too many flashes... Any ideas anyone?
ScaryBugThing said:
Urg...Well, I did the manual root method. Everything went fine through the initial root (using the classic method by toastcfh), and through the manual recovery mode where I made a nandroid backup.
Then, in recovery mode, I attempted to flash the latest Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1. It gave me no error messages, and I rebooted.
Now, it is stuck on an infinite reboot at the Fresh Evo ("FRESH!!!") bootup animation. It just keeps running that animation, never loading up. I've let that animation run about 15 times before I had to pull the battery to make it stop. Any time I try to boot the phone, I am stuck at that infinite reboot/load sequence.
Anyone have any advice? Am I screwed?
The only thing I think I can do is hold Vol- while powering up to get into the bootloader and have it check PC36IMG, after which it gives me the same normal root Step 1 option to "Start Update" (Vol+ for yes, Vol- for no). Will this just restore to "stock" root? I'd like to get FreshEvo working somehow...
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Try doing a full wipe, Data, Dalvik Cache, everything except the SD card. Then try reflashing the ROM. That was how I had to fix mine when it did the same thing.
Also don't forget to update your Radio, WiMax and Recovery if you havent already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6877247&postcount=98
As far as the best ROM is concerned I've been using SteelH's deodexed stock ROM with the netarchy-toastmod kernel and it's been running great. FPS are unlocked, its quick as hell and my battery life is excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
xHausx said:
Try doing a full wipe, Data, Dalvik Cache, everything except the SD card. Then try reflashing the ROM. That was how I had to fix mine when it did the same thing.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I did a double-wipe (cache, dalvik cache, and data/factory reset x2) before each of the 3 times I tried to install Fresh Evo. Same infinite reboot loop always.
Then I installed Baked Snack just now. I was able to actually boot (54 fps looks great!) but ROM Manager was giving me an error message about flashing the Recovery replacement, Wifi Tether force closed every time I opened it, and every time I plugged in the USB cable, it would disconnect about 2 seconds later, rendering the phone essentially useless since it wouldn't recharge or accept files in that two seconds.
So now I'm flashing back the stock root image, PC36IMG.zip.
I guess this isn't going very well. If anyone has any advice about these problems I'm having, I'm still in the depths of rooting hell. I appreciate the SteelH suggestions. Maybe I'll try that next. But it's definitely worrying me that every ROM I try has some major problems.
ScaryBugThing said:
Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I did a double-wipe (cache, dalvik cache, and data/factory reset x2) before each of the 3 times I tried to install Fresh Evo. Same infinite reboot loop always.
Then I installed Baked Snack just now. I was able to actually boot (54 fps looks great!) but ROM Manager was giving me an error message about flashing the Recovery replacement, Wifi Tether forced close every time I opened it, and every time I plugged in the USB cable, it would disconnect about 2 seconds later, rendering the phone essentially useless since it wouldn't recharge or accept files in that two seconds.
So now I'm flashing back the stock root image, PC36IMG.zip.
I guess this isn't going very well. If anyone has any advice about these problems I'm having, I'm still in the depths of rooting hell. I appreciate the SteelH suggestions. Maybe I'll try that next. But it's definitely worrying me that every ROM I try has some major problems.
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if you're using clockwork try switching to Amon-RA. That may be whats doing it
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if you're using clockwork try switching to Amon-RA. That may be whats doing it
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Thanks for the suggestion and the very fast responses. I'll give Amon-RA a shot, if I can install it. (note: I didn't use Rom Manager to install any actual ROMs here--it was just what I was about to begin using.)
Sorry if I have so many questions, but: What is the best method to flash Amon-RA recovery? Rom Manager seemed easy because you could simply download the program, run it, and choose an option in the settings menu to replace the stock Recovery.
For Amon-RA, there are two options--fastboot, and adb. I only have a vague idea of what these are and how to make them work.
As an UPDATE: I installed SteelH's ROM, and it booted, but it definitely didn't have 54 fps on mine (clearly 30 fps, Novatec panel FWIW), and I had the same problem with the USB cable disconnecting 2 seconds after plugging it in. I of course wiped everything before installing.
So I'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong in my original root--though it seemed to work fine. Could a locked NAND be causing these problems?
ScaryBugThing said:
Thanks for the suggestion and the very fast responses. I'll give Amon-RA a shot, if I can install it. (note: I didn't use Rom Manager to install any actual ROMs here--it was just what I was about to begin using.)
Sorry if I have so many questions, but: What is the best method to flash Amon-RA recovery? Rom Manager seemed easy because you could simply download the program, run it, and choose an option in the settings menu to replace the stock Recovery.
For Amon-RA, there are two options--fastboot, and adb. I only have a vague idea of what these are and how to make them work.
As an UPDATE: I installed SteelH's ROM, and it booted, but it definitely didn't have 54 fps on mine (clearly 30 fps, Novatec panel FWIW), and I had the same problem with the USB cable disconnecting 2 seconds after plugging it in. I of course wiped everything before installing.
So I'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong in my original root--though it seemed to work fine. Could a locked NAND be causing these problems?
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I used the fastboot method earlier and it was a piece of cake. Just move the recovery to the Tools folder for the SDK, put your phone in fastboot mode and copy paste the two lines in a cmd prompt to install it. I was bored reading through the recovery thread I linked to earlier and apparently clockwork is not wiping properly, others were also having problems with Fresh because of it.
For the FPS fix that is done in the kernel so you would need to flash a custom one.
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I used the fastboot method earlier and it was a piece of cake. Just move the recovery to the Tools folder for the SDK, put your phone in fastboot mode and copy paste the two lines in a cmd prompt to install it. I was bored reading through the recovery thread I linked to earlier and apparently clockwork is not wiping properly, others were also having problems with Fresh because of it.
For the FPS fix that is done in the kernel so you would need to flash a custom one.
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I tried to do as instructed. I rebooted into Fastboot mode on my phone, verified the device was seen by fastboot on my PC, then entered:
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
sending 'recovery' (5032 KB)... OKAY [ 1.406s]
writing 'recovery'... INFOsignature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 2.094s
I tried to redownload the file, but the same result occurred.
EDIT: I was able to flash the Amon-RA recovery, going back to toast's instructions. I don't know why it wasn't flashed before...
I'm also not sure that my wiping the data is the problem--I wiped factory settings/cache/dalvik cache each time using only the stock recovery. I think my mentioning Rom Manager might have suggested I used that program to wipe my data, but I haven't done so...
Anyway, I appreciate the help. This is tough for me--I can't seem to get anything to work.
EDIT2: Problems solved! Indeed, I had not properly unlocked NAND. I redid the toast NAND unlock steps, and Fresh Evo installed on the first try!
My only remaining question: how do I flash a kernel? I simply flash a ROM and then the kernel? I think Fresh Evo is great, but fps2d is still showing me locked at 30 fps.
EDIT3: I think I found the answer. Flash it like any other ROM from zip. (Doing it with Netarchy's Kernel 4.0.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763 )
(Probably looks silly reading me answer my own questions, but I thought it was better to look stupid if it might help a future beginner like me.)
Just my oppinion simpleroot never really worked for me and ive read bad things about unrevoked so just follow toasts method to rooting it is very simple and straight forward, as for rom i prefer baked snack themed version it is by far the most sexy rom i have seen it uses manups theme and u can enhance it even more, its very stable and has no fps cap on it, as well as both cameras work and video recording works, im not sure if blue tooth has been fixed yet and am not sure if 4g works because i dont have it where i live try it out and tell me what u think.
So...Everything works! A couple of final notes in case it ever helps anyone in the future:
Note 1: The call part of the phone was not working well at all. I could send and receive calls, and hear the other party, but the audio was very noisy and the other party didn't hear my voice when I talk.
I tried to update PRL and Profile, but I got an error code 1012: "The profile update could not be completed. Please try again later. If the problem persists, you may need to contact customer service. Error code:1012"
I thought the problem might be me overwriting some system files with Titanium Backup (though I was careful). But when I tried wiping factory settings/cache/dalvik cache, and rebooted, still the same problems. Ultimately, it turned out simply that Sprint's servers were down, so I couldn't update my profile/PRL. I finally was able to update the Profile and PRL (now 60669) when they came back up, and everything seems to be working.
Note 2: I realized too late that I lost all of my visual voicemails. I don't think there's a way to restore them, and I don't know if there's any way to back them up. But something to think about if you've racked up a fair amount of downloaded visual voicemails.
Thanks everyone for your help.
OK, the preface:
1. Rooted the EVO 4G phone with Unrevoked3.
2. It worked, ClockworkMod Recovery is in place - phone says S-OFF on hboot. I did a nand backup successfully.
3. Installed Wireless Tether, works fine.
4. Purchased and installed Titanium Backup Pro - it said I needed Busybox, downloaded it. Everything works fine, did a full backup with it.
5. I like HTC's Sense UI.
Titanium Backup Pro starts fine, reports everything as "OK" - that I'm rooted, the super user app runs - all looks good. It's behaving as its rooted just fine. I went through the app list and started freezing apps like Amazon MP3, Sprint NFL, and all the other bloated crap that comes from Sprint with this phone.
The problem is - that when I reboot the phone, and go to Advanced Task Killer Free - things like FM Radio, Amazon MP3, News, etc - are showing as running. The Freeze didn't freeze these things - they are still launching.
I'm trying to keep it "just rooted" -- it's all new to me, and I'd rather not have to fart with special ROMs or radios, kernels, etc - I'm old, I'll brick the damn thing. Currently I'm armed with the bookmark to unroot with my RUU PC36IMG.ZIP and some unrevoked-s-on.zip, and that's about it.
So - any help here? How come when I freeze these things, the system still launches them on bootup?
I honestly haven't messed with the "freeze" part of Titanium, but I use an app called "Bloat Freezer" from the market that works perfect. If you dont mind spending a couple bucks, it is well worth the money in my opinion
Heres the link thru AppBrian, its on sale
First suggestion get rid of the advanced task killer - it isn't needed.
Secondly, one of the main reasons to root is to remove the sprint bloatware; you could do it through adb, but I am guessing you will think that is too hard. I thought you could uninstall the bloatware using titantium backup which would be easy.
If you can't uninstall them instead of freezing them, the easiest thing would probably be to flash a custom rom. If you want a stock feel that is very fast with no sprint bloatware - download and install MikFroYo 4.5.
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First suggestion get rid of the advanced task killer - it isn't needed.
Secondly, one of the main reasons to root is to remove the sprint bloatware; you could do it through adb, but I am guessing you will think that is too hard. I thought you could uninstall the bloatware using titantium backup which would be easy.
If you can't uninstall them instead of freezing them, the easiest thing would probably be to flash a custom rom. If you want a stock feel that is very fast with no sprint bloatware - download and install MikFroYo 4.5.
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I've been reading that if I remove the apps, I run some risk of OTA updates failing or some such. Is that not such a big deal, after all?
I feel confident about rooting and unrooting, reading over those steps a dozen times over. Not so much about custom ROMs and kernels. I read about radio keys possibly getting dorked, making sure you update radios and some other stuff - it starts to get a bit overwhelming - clearing cache, data, dalvik (wtf ever that is), certain features not working (fm radio, 4g, wimax, etc). As it is now, I've managed to root, do a nandroid backup with ClockworkMod Recovery, and a Titanium Backup backup - i feel confident with that.
I really do like the stock Evo 4G - just don't want any of that bloat running. There's no reason Amazon MP3 or Sprint TV should ever want to fire up at random times.
If it was easy to flip into some other ROM and still maintain my stock look, I'd be happy to start researching it. I read some other one was decent too - some Warm TwoPointTwo or something?
I'd like to keep Sense, the basic stock look - and get rid of the bloat.
Like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
I started reading and my head started spinning with stuff about mods to the MikFroyo 4.5 ROM. NO CLUE how to add any of that or tweak it. Heck, not even a real clue on how to install MikFroyo safely. Is it just a matter of dropping some ZIP on the root of SD card, go to the ClockworkMod and update something or other? I guess I have much more reading ahead of me.
One question I do have -- when I do a backup with the ClockworkMod recovery -- is that everything? Is that my "safe checkpoint" - so if I screw something up, I can restore from that point?
I guess if I biff it entirely, I can always roll back to unrooted stock with that PC36IMG.ZIP and unrevoked-s-off.zip file.
It is a bit overwhelming, I would highly recommend running MikFroyo 4.5 - it is pretty stock feel with some extra eye candy and a whole bunch of mods that make it very speedy.
There are so many links in that thread so, here is the direct link to download MikFroyo 4.5: http://www.mediafire.com/?4v1tz1y3f0nwgwa
1.Download that file to your computer
2.Connect phone, select dropdown and enable usb disk drive
3.On computer right-click the mikfroyo file you downloaded and send it to your phone (i.e. - whatever drive your computer list it as, maybe E:\)
4.That will put the Rom file (which is a .zip file) on the ROOT of your sdcard [Root - meaning the file is not located in any folders on the sdcard]
5. Change usb connection to charge only
6.Boot into recovery
7.Make a full backup of your current Rom (Probably called Backup/Restore Menu in Recovery)
8. AFTER you make a backup, you are still in recovery - now select wipe Data/Factory Reset
9. After that wipe is complete, select wipe cache/dalvik-cache
10. Now, in recovery go back a menu or so and select Flash zip from sdcard, find the mikfroyo rom file you put on the sdcard and select it, Yes, to flash it.
11. Once it is finished, select reboot system now in your recovery
12. Be very patient while booting - can take 5 mins or more sometimes.
13. Once booted, update google info and then go to market and download Titantium Backup and restore the apps you want that you orginally backed up.
That is a very detailed step by step.
Note: Do NOT try to flash anything with battery less than 30%
Wifflepig said:
I've been reading that if I remove the apps, I run some risk of OTA updates failing or some such. Is that not such a big deal, after all?
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NEVER take an OTA update after Root, it could brick your phone.
It isn't a big deal if you remove system apps and it messes something up assuming you have a backup that you can restore through your recovery.
Wifflepig said:
One question I do have -- when I do a backup with the ClockworkMod recovery -- is that everything? Is that my "safe checkpoint" - so if I screw something up, I can restore from that point?
I guess if I biff it entirely, I can always roll back to unrooted stock with that PC36IMG.ZIP and unrevoked-s-off.zip file.
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I don't recommend Clockwork, many people have issues with it and I don't use it so I am not sure, but some versions of Clockwork don't backup everything (which might include 4g keys, etc)
I recommend this recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Read through this rooting guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
See step 6, this will backup your 4G unique keys:
6A) REQUIRED RSA BACKUP This will back up your RSA keys just in case something goes wrong in that department. You should still be in your command window inside the shell with a #. (The following came from this thread)
mkdir -p /sdcard/nandroid/RSA-PR-BACKUP
cat /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/nandroid/RSA-PR-BACKUP/wimax.img
This saves it in a file that can actually be restored. This next step is another type of backup just for good measure
busybox sed -n '/BEGIN CERTIFICATE/,$p' /dev/mtd/mtd0 > /sdcard/rsa_OEM.key
This will dump the RSA keys to a text file on your SD Card named rsa_OEM.key
Mine was about 4575 KB in size, but the size could vary. Go ahead and switch the phone's USB connection over to "Disk Drive" and then browse to your SD Card and verify that the file rsa_OEM.key is indeed on the card.
Heaterz16 said:
NEVER take an OTA update after Root, it could brick your phone.
It isn't a big deal if you remove system apps and it messes something up assuming you have a backup that you can restore through your recovery.
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How the heck do you block OTA updates?
how to back up all internal memary
i use titanium backup how to back up internal software and how to restore tham
Also - I already rooted with Unrevoked3 and it put the ClockworkMod Recovery on the Evo 4G (it's hardware 0003). Everything *seems* to be working fine.
If I decide to go back to unrooted (s-on and the pc36img.zip for my phone) - do I need to worry about my wimax RSA keys at all, or can I just flash s-on then the PC36IMG zip and be back to square one?
Attached to the message is a copy of my nandroid backup from clockwork - it sure seems like it backed up the wimax image for me.
Also, just to be safe, I did do the ADB shell to make an RSA_oem.key file - it was 4575kb, in my root folder.
I swear, it sure seems like things are fine. I'm a little apphrehensive about trying to flopswitch to a different recovery tool if things are working as expected. I fired up the 4G antenna, and it came on and tried searching for 4G (I am not in a 4G zone at the moment).
I still have one remaining question - how do I block OTA updates from Sprint, to avoid them hosing the phone? I didn't see anything obvious in the Update Phone bits.
You should be fine running Clockwork - I just recommend Amon.
Glad to see you backed up your RSA keys and I agree it looks like you have a good Wimax.img. You only need either of these if somehow flashing another Rom messes up your 4g - you should be ok, just good to have just in case...
As for blocking OTA updates I haven't had any OTA updates since I have had the EVO, but they don't auto-install, you can just decline them if the message ever pops up.
As long as 4g keys are intact when/if you want to unroot, then all you have to do is run S-on and then restore the ruu as you stated.
Sounds like you definitely have your 4g keys and wimax intact, but you can always download Wimax Keys Checker from the Market for good measure as well to check.
Glad to hear everything looks good - are you going to try MikFroyo?
Heaterz16 said:
You should be fine running Clockwork - I just recommend Amon.
Glad to hear everything looks good - are you going to try MikFroyo?
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when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.
Wifflepig said:
when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.
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I just got a serious lawl from reading that...soon my young user. But if you're on a sense rom, just don't accept the OTA, and if you're on aosp, it doesn't even ask you.
Wifflepig said:
when my testicles grow a few sizes more and I've done more reading and research. I hear nothing but good things about MikFroyo 4.5, and I'm at about page 30 of his 1000+ page home post. I spent two weeks reading everything under the sun just to get to a stage where I felt reasonably confident in rooting.
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Haha, well you already did the hard part, rooting. Chances of bricking it now are about slim to none, unless you pull the battery during a flash of a rom. Worst case scenario, you get a bootloop because you forgot to wipe first or something, which is easily fixable.
If you want to read up on his thread, I would read starting on last page and read backwards. Otherwise, you will read all the issues in the original version of MikFroyo, the current 4.5 is virtually flawless.
Btw, I am glad to see you are willing to read before you do things - most people don't.
I'll probably tackle a custom ROM (MikFroyo 4.5) next week. From what I'm reading, it's all about staging a ZIP or image to the root, and using the boot tool to flash it into the system. That, and be careful about radio keys, and the like. Seems uncomplicated enough.
Thanks to both of you for the help, I do appreciate it a lot. I've not been impressed with TitaniumBackup's freezing - a buncha junk still fires off on reboot of the phone - I'll try the AppBrain one here, I think. TB works good for backing crap up, though. As far as I can tell - haven't needed to restore anything yet - but it does definitely make a crapton of files in the backup process, so that's a good thing - I guess.
yesterday i decided to finally read up on what rooting and flashing is, and I DID IT...i now have CM7 RC2 with the Honeycomb music app (not bad for a 40 year old chick who was just looking for something to so)
1. do i need to update my Radio if my calls work ok? (the radio is for calls? yes?)
2. i thought rooting would give me access to my phone's root directory, but it hasn't...is there a way to do this?
3. would the root/flash CM7 process have cleared my phone's app storage, or is it possible i still have leftover shiz from my previous stock 2.2?
4. moving apps to SD seems to do nothing other than tell me the apps are on SD..the DiskUsage app still tells me that the moved apps are taking up just as much space as if they hadn't been moved, and on a Desire, i am left with VERY little space...any ideas?
5. i don't know which visual parts of my 'new' phone are from CM7, ADW, or from an independent theme i have installed...is there a way to colourise menus? the phone system is B&W for me at the moment
6. AdFree, doesn't block ads, is there a way to actually be ad free?
7. how do i take screenshots (for no reason other than to know how to do it)
thanks you guys
1. do i need to update my Radio if my calls work ok? (the radio is for calls? yes?)
Post your radio version here... it helps
2. i thought rooting would give me access to my phone's root directory, but it hasn't...is there a way to do this?
Are you S-ON or S-OFF? With S-ON you still only have access to certain parts of the phone when in recovery... maybe this is what you mean?
3. would the root/flash CM7 process have cleared my phone's app storage, or is it possible i still have leftover shiz from my previous stock 2.2?
If you nandroid backup then wipe / flash a rom everything will be lost, but obviously you can restore using nandroid... (as long as you backed up!)
7. how do i take screenshots (for no reason other than to know how to do it)
If your rooted, type screen grab into the market place, there's a few free apps to do this.
Also for adfree to work you have to be S-OFF...
Good tutorail here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
thanks guys
@KevAmiga
1. radio...is it called "baseband version"? i have 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
!! scratch that, i just realised the zip file for the updated radio is called "bravo.5.11.05.27", so i guess it's the same one
2. i have s-off...i think i will leave it for now, i read the AlphaRev instructions and find them too vague
3. i don't want to back up, i wanted to make sure i was working with maximum space and didn't have leftovers from my stock 2.2...i have since installed Simple2Ext and have far more app space, so i will be ok with that for now (i've had it a whole 5 minutes!)
7. thanks
@00droid...thanks for the info, i will uninstall AdFree...and i had found that AlphaRev link, but the instructions are too vague for me
If your S-Off leave it that way...
With regards to the backup, thats only used if you need to go back to the stock ROM, its stored on the SD card but isnt in the same place the apps, rom go etc so it wont affect your "device space"
I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
museiscool8 said:
I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
[EDIT]
I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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Hello.
Your gold card isn't related to the phone. So yes you can still make a gold card or use one of your friends phone (i don't know for sure if it has to be the same model, but probably) and make one. The gold card is unique per SD Card.
You can rest assured though, cause until you want to go back to stock with no ROOT or S-OFF, it will pass a long time, and maybe you'll change your mind. Personally I was like you, scared that maybe I must go back to warranty if I get something wrong. But the truth is starting to arise: I'll never need to go to warranty If I don't do something stupid to my phone or my phone doesn't have any motherboard faults. First is easy to accomplish with a lot of reading before doing something. Almost everything is replaceable (Flashing bad ROM, kernel, recovery, etc.), but flashing Radio's and HBOOT's ain't. If you did something/something happened (USB Cable Disconnect, Pull The battery out etc.) when trying to flash these, then it is permanently bricked(no comebacks). I don't want to scare you, but you should pay a lot of attention when flashing these. The second it depends on the phone itself.
Hope that helped.
Thanks for your help
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
museiscool8 said:
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
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Hi.
Yep, I've heard about this new problem, since google allowed downloads of larger files from Market. Since some custom HBOOTS or even Stock HBOOK have the cache partition smaller than the file you are trying to download it won't be possible to save it.
You should search for a script that moves Dalvik-cache to SD or SD EXT. If the developer of the ROM hasn't made this than you have to search for (don't know if there is such script) it or try to ask it directly in the ROM forum. You should be able to get more help there.
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace the phone. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
wigmuke said:
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace it. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
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You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
synisterwolf said:
You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
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The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
wigmuke said:
The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
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actually its better to keep it s=off so this type of situation wont happen. Your carrier cant see your hboot from my understanding on how this phone works. They dont care if you have root or not, unless you are trying to exchange the phone for another one from them or for insurance reasons. With root you only void your warranty on the phone and not your contract or anything to do with VZW. S=off is just a NAND lock, meaning you cant add your own custom recover to the phone, and you are limited to builds that come from VZW themselves (ie the security signature check).
If you ever want to take the phone back to them because its defective or call insurance then you need to remove root and S=on. but thats the only time you need to toggle the NAND lock.
ok so you will need to ruu to stock, downgrade then gain s=off over again:
for the ruu for GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227279
a guide to do this all after you ruu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
wigmuke said:
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
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You might have lost root if you did the ruu from hboot. to check download the app "super user" from market that will tell you if you still have root or not.
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you recommend?
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
wigmuke said:
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you all recommend?
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unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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wigmuke said:
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
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lol now worries. easiest way to get to the 10 limit is just pad the count in here. ie just say something 10 times and you are good to go.
synisterwolf said:
unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
wigmuke said:
Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
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Nope I'm RunNing that one and it works well.
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