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I am initiating my third project this winter season.
Purpose of this project:
The project is to successfully make a 9600mAh battery @ 3.7VDC.
Objective:
Use least amount of resources. Battery should be created easily by anyone. Budget is less than $100 USD.
Materials:
3x 3200mAh Li-Ion batteries
4x Copper conduit cables with plastic wrapping
- 2x Copper cables 5mm Width, 4-5cm Lenght.
- 2x Copper cables 1-2mm Width, 4-5cm Lenght.
1x Tin (Sn) Soldering Unit.
1x 2-3cm battery door.
Procedure:
1. As you see there are 4 compartments of power conductor on the battery (metal copper) where the battery touches the Universal pins.
2. Stack up all the batteries so that they are one over the other in same position parallely.
3. Take the copper cable and connect it to each batteries metal spot. Ofcourse the bigger compartment is going to require the 5mm wire and the other small ones will require 2mm.
4. Solder the wires tightly and they must touch all the compartments.
5. There should be a little bit of wire left in the end and that wire must touch the first battery a bit.
6. Make sure you do not use excess wire otherwise all the batteries wont fit in the battery door.
7. The first battery will clip into the Universal but now here is the modification you have to make to the other batteries.
Break off the clips on the other batteries. Front and back slip in clips. This will enable the batteries to fit in the case and probably make room for the copper wires too.
8. Now here is the problem. If you are making a 4800mAh battery stack (3200mAh + 1600mAh) then you are lucky and can custom order a battery door. For the other people making 9600mAh or 6400mAh you will have to make your own battery door probably by using molding plastic tools.
Now please keep note not to ever ever ever solder anything to the pins on the Universal power recieving wires. Otherwise you are in big trouble and probaly damaged the power supply but you can cut the solder off.
Results:
So this is the array of batteries you have just built. I will built a 5000mAh battery so this is how it will work for me. i have a 1800mAh battery that is of normal flat size and a 3200mAh battery. Both of same 3.7V ~ VDC. Therefore, we can conclude that both stacked. The wires were connected parallely and i preffered to break the clips on the 3200mAh battery since my 1800mAh is metallic. I asked Lion Battery to send me a battery door for their 4800mAh batteries and they arranged it for $10 or something and it fit my battery stack because it was approximately 1cm extended.
So first the wires were soldered on the 3200mAh and then they reached down to the 1800mAh. The 1800mAh connected independently to the pins on the Universal. The Universal is now drawing power out of both 3200mAh and 1800mAh batteries!!!!
Conclusion:
I saved $200 on a 5000mAh battery.
Good luck on making your battery stack. Try to post pictures and information if you to undertake this project and are successful.
Regards.
I will buy only if the size remains the same size as 1620mA original battery.
Anything beyond the size is bulky, considering Universal itself is already bulky.
CWKJ said:
I will buy only if the size remains the same size as 1620mA original battery.
Anything beyond the size is bulky, considering Universal itself is already bulky.
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I agree. The maximum available at flat size is 1800mAh. Single Battery. But the point of having the universal is functionality. I dont use it to talk. I use the BT headset.
nuclear
Use car battery and you solve all their own problems
.Will much long work!
Show us photo your super batteries!
If will be a photo we all shall believe that you technical genius!
It would be a Nuclear device...beware
You should realy start to think about your 4th project:
Making BAG for project N3
Guys be nice...
Nuclear any chance of some photos? Put them on Flickr etc.
What kind of usage time do you get?
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YES, be nice... because in theory as long as you connect the batteries in PARALLEL you are not increasing the voltage, but you are increasing the capacity, thus longer battery life. As a matter of fact, you can stack as many as you want.
Now if you are connecting the batteries in SERIES, then you are going to fry (TOAST, if you prefer) your precious Universal.
vijay555 said:
Guys be nice...
Nuclear any chance of some photos? Put them on Flickr etc.
What kind of usage time do you get?
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Offcourse I'm joking - but actualy it will be powerfull Universal without chance to put him in .... pocket
i was just thinking of this last night, and there a thread.
anyone have any idea how to make a battery door, or what i call it a battery cover with ease? i do not own any plastic moulding tools
omega_ said:
i was just thinking of this last night, and there a thread.
anyone have any idea how to make a battery door, or what i call it a battery cover with ease? i do not own any plastic moulding tools
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I find making a battery cover/door very easy personally. I did not post upon how to make a battery cover/door but after a lot of thinking i have come up with the procedure to do that too.
1. Order 2x 3200mAh batteries from ebay or anywhere you like. The batteries will include their individual covers. Note that you must order the battery with the square black door and not the aerodynamic silver door. You can also order individual battery doors from ebay by requesting the seller
2. Therefore you will be making a 6400mAh stack of battery.
3. This is where you have get to make a choice. Either to keep the batteries in one compartement or to keep the batteries in separate compartements (recommended).
4. Keeping the batteries in separate compartements helps in cooling effect and prolongs the life of the batteries because batteries emit EMF waves that could damage each other. When the batteries are kept separately they have no chance of effecting each other.
5. Also note that the batteries charge and discharge simultaneously due to charge distrubution factor of 1/2 .
6. Ok now to make the cover. First we will look at the single compartment where both batteries sit together.
- We have two covers and classify them as Cover A and B.
- Cover A will clip into the Universal directly.
- Cut out cover A's roof using a hot cutting knife (recommended to keep soft edges). Let the Cover A cool down and you may now throw away the roof of cover A.
- Cut out the base or rim of Cover B. You know the rim that sits on the Universal. The flat rim part on Cover B must not exist.
- Cover B must now look like a perfect rectangle without any edges because it will sit on Cover A and you will attach them by heating up Cover A and Cover B edges so that they both bond up. You can make this bond either by using permanent glue or moulding using a chisel heat knife.
- So now you have successfully made a 6400mAh battery door. Make sure there is enough room for the wires to pass. Good luck.
7. Now to make the separtate compartement battery holder.
- Cut out the rim of Cover B using the hot knife method.
- Make Cover B sit on Cover A exactly in the same co-ordinates.
- Mold them back and make the bond between Cover A and B so now they are Cover A-B.
- Make a hole in Cover A's roof so you can pull out the wires that are going to Battery B in cover B. Make sure that the battery is first in cover B and you solder the Cover A and B with the battery sitting in Cover B. You wont be able to take out the Battery from Cover B because now it is sitting permanently in Cover B fully SEALED! . Make sure you don't solder the Wires to Battery B before this step.
If additional space is needed or the batteries are heating up, just use a metallic 2-5mm stick to make a gap between Compartement A and B.
When i start doing this i will post pictures of the battery stack and my new battery door.
Good luck in making your battery door.
By parallel battery stacking i mean that 1 wire goes through all the batteries touching each batteries metal compartment, since Universal batteries have 4 of these compartements we going to have 4 wires touching each of those metal parts. All the 4 wires must run parallely without touching each other. And that is why we cover them with plastic.
Now if I am correct a series connection is where all batteries connect directly to the Universal, which will fry the universal due to excessive voltage input around 10-12Volts. When the batteries connect all in line then its a parallel and voltage input does not change. Its only the capacity that changes. But you must make sure a wire is running directly to the universal and all the other batteries are connected to that wire. Its like a branching except the main branch connects to the Universal and all the sub branches are the batteries.
I will post pictures when i get home of what i am looking for. It seems words arent enough. Pictures Pictures Pictures!! and Diagrams. I know you all want to see the blueprints. Thats why when i go home today i will make the blueprints in autocad or by hand and upload pictures here. I will also show you what series connections are and how you can fry the battery/Universal if a wrong connection is made.
I personally wont be attempting this project until i make a good cover for the battery. I will ask those 4800mAh battery sellers to give me a cover without the battery for $5-$20. Dont want the 4800mAh battery from those sellers $200 .
Actually now that i think about it i would like to stick with 1800mAh only because its so flat with the universal and not at all bulky. But i dont care about the bulk because i never use the phone to call. Like i never hold it to my ear. Always use a BT headset. This bulk battery is seriously going to be heavy.
Truly I would advice you all to stay with the 1600-1800mAh battery until a new battery is released of the same size with higher capacity.
Okay if you guys really want me to attempt this project I will. But I wont be using that huge stack. Also if someone could help me I would really appreciate it. Afterall I am trying to help you guys too. I dont want you guys spending so much money on something thats so cheap. You guys already spent a lot of money on the Universal and I suggest you dont get cheated by this battery thing. Thats why I didnt have any pictures. But i can atleast provide blueprints. I am doing all this for you guys and not personally for myself. I could have done this project at home and never let any of you know. But there are some days when I am struck and I come looking for help on the internet and i get that help. Thats why I would also be a part of that help and help other people with all I have to offer. So please dont get mad if i dont have pictures or my setup does not work. I am trying my best.
Parallel Battery Stacking
My first picture of how parallel stacking should look like. This is one of the blueprints i post. Make sure your wires are minimal. Very small wires otherwise the batteries wont fit in there. Even the cover must be able to support the wires. If you are making a twin compartment battery case, then better make holes in the partition for the passage of the wires. I will post a blueprint for that too, the cover that is. The key to success in this project is to minimize wires as much as possible.
Also good news! A recent technology has been invented that lets you charge your electronics on wireless!. Plug in the adapter into the wall and there you go. You have wireless charging. I saw this news somewhere I dont remember exactly but I know it was a valid news source.
nuclear said:
My first picture of how parallel stacking should look like. This is one of the blueprints i post. Make sure your wires are minimal. Very small wires otherwise the batteries wont fit in there. Even the cover must be able to support the wires. If you are making a twin compartment battery case, then better make holes in the partition for the passage of the wires. I will post a blueprint for that too, the cover that is. The key to success in this project is to minimize wires as much as possible.
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As you make the wires thinner, they will get hotter/the resistance of them will go up, causing more power consumption
nuclear said:
Also good news! A recent technology has been invented that lets you charge your electronics on wireless!. Plug in the adapter into the wall and there you go. You have wireless charging. I saw this news somewhere I dont remember exactly but I know it was a valid news source.
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Charging your electronics on wireless? >.>
As has been asked before for your claims, links, sources... come on man, we can't take your word for everything.
Another alternative ... although not as much fun as making one
I had the same problem of not having enough battery capacity, especially since the original battery starting going bad (it would shut down at about 50% charge, lasting only 30-60 minutes). So I had the choice of getting the original battery for about $25 with shipping or getting the 3150mAh Li-ion Battery for $35 with shipping. I got the 3150mAh about a month ago and have been very pleased with it. It easily lasts 4 hours under full load and I could go a whole working day under normal use ... amazing !!! Also, it actually feels better holding onto the device, since it's easier to grab onto with the indents on either end of the cover. It's wonderful, not having to worry about carrying around my charger everywhere. I ended up getting it from www.Gizmos2Go.com (http://www.gizmos2go.com/xcart/search.php?mode=search). They were out of stock when I ordered it, but were very nice about keeping me up to date on the progress. Although, it's available elsewhere, so shop for the best price ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Li-Ion+battery+High+Capacity+3150+jasjar.
Another alternative I use is to use a mini-USB "batter extender" that works with 4AA batteries. It's worked well with the Universal with Li-Ion batteries. Here's a link to one of these types of chargers ... http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...ries-power+accessories~item~USB-BATADPT01.htm.
I know these aren't nearly as much fun as making one yourself, but they both have worked well for me. Anyways, I hope this helps someone make a decision.
olliesshop said:
I had the same problem of not having enough battery capacity, especially since the original battery starting going bad (it would shut down at about 50% charge, lasting only 30-60 minutes). So I had the choice of getting the original battery for about $25 with shipping or getting the 3150mAh Li-ion Battery for $35 with shipping. I got the 3150mAh about a month ago and have been very pleased with it. It easily lasts 4 hours under full load and I could go a whole working day under normal use ... amazing !!! Also, it actually feels better holding onto the device, since it's easier to grab onto with the indents on either end of the cover. It's wonderful, not having to worry about carrying around my charger everywhere. I ended up getting it from www.Gizmos2Go.com (http://www.gizmos2go.com/xcart/search.php?mode=search). They were out of stock when I ordered it, but were very nice about keeping me up to date on the progress. Although, it's available elsewhere, so shop for the best price ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Li-Ion+battery+High+Capacity+3150+jasjar.
Another alternative I use is to use a mini-USB "batter extender" that works with 4AA batteries. It's worked well with the Universal with Li-Ion batteries. Here's a link to one of these types of chargers ... http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...ries-power+accessories~item~USB-BATADPT01.htm.
I know these aren't nearly as much fun as making one yourself, but they both have worked well for me. Anyways, I hope this helps someone make a decision.
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Hey thanks ollie, this helps a lot. I really like external power, 4AA batteries are nice. I can use my AA 2700mAh battery and 4 of them will make the Universal last a long time. I really like my 1800mAh battery and with this external power idea i can use my universal for a long time. I use my universal in my car, office and work. I am mostly using my headset so make/answer calls. So I could stick to the 1800mAh and put my universal in a leather case and belt clip and carry it around. While i want to play games or chat on msn i can hook up the external AA batteries and the batteries will be in my pocket while i am using the universal.
Yes thats the one and last thing i want to know. If the cable is long enough to hide the AA external batteries... atleast 60-100cm
Pics
Nuclear,
Your project really intrigued me. Do you have any pictures of your work in progress or finished product? Thanks.
I have a Sino battery from eBay, insanely cheap (something like £16 shipped) with the bulgy cover. Works brilliantly.
I'm amazed by some of the claims of poor battery life. I make very little use of my device, but I also seem to get 4 days+ of standby/occasional use with this battery installed! As in, take it on holiday, show it to people, make a couple of calls, play a couple of games, bit of WiFi in the pub - that sort of thing - and it had 39% charge after four days.
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As you make the wires thinner, they will get hotter/the resistance of them will go up, causing more power consumption
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I think nuclear means shorter, not thinner - reducing any resistance
I'm looking to pick up an extended battery (LTE version) since they're only $25 again, but like many of you I am also anxiously awaiting the release of 3 pin car and desktop docks.
I guess this isn't really something that can be answered until the docks are out, but do you think the phone will still fit in them if using the extended battery? I don't really want to buy the battery and then not be able to use it once the docks come out.
My guess is they will, I think they will have designed the case to fit all 4 variants of the phone, (GSM, GSM extended, LTE, LTE extended) if they haven't I think they've missed a trick!
possibly. Problem is the Verizon is already thicker then the GSM version. The Extended battery also adds another bit of thickness.
If you plan on using the Pins... it would have to be spot on. With the pins on the battery side of the phone, this could prove a problem. I've never owned a Car Dock. Unless it was designed with elongated rounded pins that make contact and various depths, but the phone contacts seem to be slightly recessed, making this impossible. From what I've seen, the pins on the dock are tall pins (nubs).
This is probably why the Verizon version didn't include the pins... and we may never see one for use with an extended battery.
Best way to engineer this would be to make the back deeper then it needs to be... then add "layers" to make it the correct thickness. Like a circle with tabs. Different circles would be different thicknesses. Insert the correct circle for your phone type and spin it until the tabs lock it into place.
Like this: Interchangeable thickness pieces to make sure it's the currect depth:
Then you could order the kit which would come with a variety of different sets of circle pieces. BAM! Universal Car Dock.
I give. Where are you finding the extended batteries for 50% off? I see the standard battery on Verizon's site. A link please?
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I give. Where are you finding the extended batteries for 50% off? I see the standard battery on Verizon's site. A link please?
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I can't find it browsing the site either. Only way I've ever found it is via URL link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12917&accessoryId=49870
FYI, they're out of stock online and aren't letting you backorder right now. Keep the link, or do what I did. After ordering yesterday, I bought one in store (they're doing the same promo, 50% off all extended batteries for LTE devices, I didn't even need to ask) and cancelled the order I placed yesterday.
Hello everyone,
I try to find a support car for my galaxy S2 with the 2000 mah battery.
Have you any suggestions ?
Thank you
S2 with extended battery fits in the official car dock .
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S2 with extended battery fits in the official car dock .
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Are you try it ?
Thank you
Ok finaly, it's work with 2000 mah battery
After using quite a few mounts I think the Tetrax X-Way is the best by far.
Very easy to put your phone in place (it seriously just locks on) and is extremely easy to remove / use in a new car.
Also, it can hold a tablet... Think about the possibilities there
I particularly love the Dask Genie -- or whatever it goes by here in the States. (I bought mine from England BEFORE someone got the brighter idea to start marketing a similar model here!) I don't have a screenshot. It suctions onto the dask and uses sticky-tack to keep phone in place without any residue. I've used it on all kinds of terrains with great results. And I can remove my phone if I need to answer/make a call with only one hand.
Look it up.
Ok so i have had my galaxy s3 for nearly a week now and today i have just received the extra battery kit so i thought i would give a quick review.
Its an official product and comes with the original galaxy s3 battery and a handy stand that holds the phone and charges the battery in a compartment towards the back on the stand.
The stand is piano black finish, which is slightly transperant to allow the LED notification to show though. The LED has three different states:
Red - Charging
Green - Charged
Orange - Error
All that comes in the box is the stand and battery there is no USB charging cable, and the stand itself does not charge the phone, it only charges the spare battery. The stand is very good when you have the phone in landscape but if you want to use the stand to hold the phone in portrait mode it can be a bit fiddle, i found that if you lift the cover where the for the battery compartment the phone sits well in portrait mode and this does not affect charging at all.
see the rest of the photos to get a better look
Pros:
Having two batteries for a smart phone is a must if the phone allows you so to get a handy product like this where you can charge one battery while using the other is a big PLUS
The Battery that comes with it is the exact same as the one that came with the phone which is a very good 2100mAh battery
The stand is great for landscape view
Very stylish
Cons:
You can only charge the spare battery not the battery in the phone itself
Does not come with a USB charging cable
Piano black finish is terrible for finger marks
Overall a great accessory and i would advise any galaxy s3 owner to buy
COST as of Fri 22nd June 2012 on amazon UK is £26.45
Thanks for having a read if you have any questions just let ask, and give me a thanks if this has helped you decide to buy the product or not CHEERS
I didnt see a price mentioned?
sorry my friend it is currently £26.45 on the amazon UK site, what do you think would be tempted to buy it
Some more photos for yous to have a look at as you can see in the first one the finger prints show up very messy on the piano black finish
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could you please check to see if NFC works with the extra battery in?
You could try out credit/debit cards with contactless payment built in or a public transport payment card like an oyster?
thanks
hboos said:
could you please check to see if NFC works with the extra battery in?
You could try out credit/debit cards with contactless payment built in or a public transport payment card like an oyster?
thanks
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The extra battery comes with nfc its the exact same battery as the original are you thinking of buying
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The extra battery comes with nfc its the exact same battery as the original are you thinking of buying
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I am thinking of buying this but my battery says "Near Field Communication" below the SAMSUNG logo while from your pictures, it seems like the extra battery doesn't say this.
If it doesn't have an NFC antenna in it, I can't see much point in spending this much on an official battery.
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I just had a look at my battery and on the other side, it looks like yours in your picture. I guess I will get this after all
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I am thinking of buying this but my battery says "Near Field Communication" below the SAMSUNG logo while from your pictures, it seems like the extra battery doesn't say this.
If it doesn't have an NFC antenna in it, I can't see much point in spending this much on an official battery.
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I just had a look at my battery and on the other side, it looks like yours in your picture. I guess I will get this after all
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Don't worry my friend it says near field communication on the battery I will post a picture when I get home
aidan8181 said:
Don't worry my friend it says near field communication on the battery I will post a picture when I get home
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don't worry about it, i believe you! thanks anyway :laugh:
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don't worry about it, i believe you! thanks anyway :laugh:
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haha i was about to post a picture but the rom i'm using has some camera bugs so i guess you will just have to believe me lol
if you get the kit let me know what you think
just got the camera mod fixed on my rom with a new update so here is a picture of the NFC info
Hmm, its a bit rubbish that it doesnt charge the phone.
You would have to charge the spare battery and then swap them over.
Or remove the dock cable then charge the phone
Why Samsung?
its not bad but the new charger and usb sync dock thats coming out next week from samsung would be even better, if not then why not get both! battery kit and dock together would be awesome. or even the dock and some hyperion kits!
Does this work with usb cable and car charger?
Will the kit hold a phone with a tpu case?
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its not bad but the new charger and usb sync dock thats coming out next week from samsung would be even better, if not then why not get both! battery kit and dock together would be awesome. or even the dock and some hyperion kits!
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link please
I just received this minutes after posting in this thread.
Was aware of the disability that phone can't be charged at the same time as the battery.
Was NOT aware this kit does not come with its own charging cable! This is a major points deduction.
Overall C$35 shipped to my home in 3 business days is not a bad deal for OEM goodness.
Hi, the stand drains your battery if you leave it inside without the charging cable?
That's odd. I ordered mine from amazon here is the US and mine came with a usb charging cable. Genuine Samsung
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Hello all, I am a regular over at the Photon forums. I've just purchased a Sprint Galaxy Nexus and, naturally, went online to find the right extended batteries and cases. From what I have read, the OEM extended battery from Samsung that was released for Verizon works just fine. But, the extended backing apparently doesn't fit correctly on the Sprint version. I am aware that there are other third party extended batteries/covers but I've always been with the understanding that when it comes to batteries, stay with the original OEM. I've read through the forums for some information but am getting mixed reviews. Can someone shed some light onto this and perhaps point me in the right direction of a good extended battery with proper Sprint backplate? Thank you in advance.
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Btw, I would much like to stick with a 2100mAh ish sized battery. Not very interested in the huge bulky 3000mAh+'s.
call sprint. or you may be able to get it from their website. I got notice of it immediately in my Sprint "inbox." I got an extended battery for "free," just had to pay shipping...it's the samsung brand that comes with NFC embedded & the cover (associated with the larger battery).
Good Luck!
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call sprint. or you may be able to get it from their website. I got notice of it immediately in my Sprint "inbox." I got an extended battery for "free," just had to pay shipping...it's the samsung brand that comes with NFC embedded & the cover (associated with the larger battery).
Good Luck!
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Calling worked. Theyre sending me one for free. Thanks for the heads up.
will the OEM extended battery + cover for Sprint Galaxy Nexus fit on the Verizon version of Galaxy Nexus?
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will the OEM extended battery + cover for Sprint Galaxy Nexus fit on the Verizon version of Galaxy Nexus?
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The actual battery probably does, but the door probably does not considering it doesnt work well the other way around.