The lack of space on my phone is frustrating me a lot. More annoyingly, I can't free up space by removing the preinstalled apps. Anyone figured out a way to remove these WO rooting and/or debranding?
You won't be able to remove the apps without rooting.
To be honest your best bet if you want to remove the apps is to go down the debranding route. I did and haven't looked back.
stats101 said:
The lack of space on my phone is frustrating me a lot. More annoyingly, I can't free up space by removing the preinstalled apps. Anyone figured out a way to remove these WO rooting and/or debranding?
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had the same problem! vodafone pulledout the 1.24.161.3 which was rather pointless, got annoyed, debranded, rooted, flashed a custom ROM (or install a srock ROM and unroot).
hope this helps! good luck!
Isn't debranding the same thing as rooting? I'm confused.
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!PANDA said:
had the same problem! vodafone pulledout the 1.24.161.3 which was rather pointless, got annoyed, debranded, rooted, flashed a custom ROM (or install a srock ROM and unroot).
hope this helps! good luck!
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Vodafone released their bloatware-free FroYo update this morning...
aindow said:
Isn't debranding the same thing as rooting? I'm confused.
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Like I said before in many other threads, in order to "debrand" an android phone you need to root.
The term debranding on android is a confusing one. It mainly origionated from non-smartphone users who wanted to remove carrier bloat and install generic firmware on their phones.
Now to do this on an android you will need to root in order to install other roms. However if you are rooting you might as well take the full step and install a custom rom, rather than a rooted generic rom as it offers so much more than any stock rom does.
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Like I said before in many other threads, in order to "debrand" an android phone you need to root.
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I installed the generic HTC rom on my Orange branded desire without rooting and have applied OTA froyo update and still not rooted.
I used the instructions posted by Paul @ modaco on 2nd April but he did not root the device until later...
Why do you say you need to root to debrand? (Genuine question as want to know if I have got things mixed up)
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Like I said before in many other threads, in order to "debrand" an android phone you need to root.
The term debranding on android is a confusing one. It mainly origionated from non-smartphone users who wanted to remove carrier bloat and install generic firmware on their phones.
Now to do this on an android you will need to root in order to install other roms. However if you are rooting you might as well take the full step and install a custom rom, rather than a rooted generic rom as it offers so much more than any stock rom does.
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You do not need to root if you are just debranding.
Debranding can be carried out by flashing an official htc generic ruu.
Lennyuk. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I understand now. I rooted my Orange desire as soon as I got it in that case.
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Like I said before in many other threads, in order to "debrand" an android phone you need to root.
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Wrong! Root is NOT required in order to de-brand to a stock ROM. A Goldcard is required, but not root.
However, just to confuse matters a bit, root IS required if you want to flash a custom ROM.
I de-branded my Orange Desire to a stock ROM about a month before I got around to rooting it via Unrevoked.
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I found the cheapest Desire in the UK is at 3uk/payg - 350 Sterling
...but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network, so, before I buy I thought I'd ask:
Noob Questions:
Will rooting take care of unlocking/make it SIM Free? What about rooting AND changing the ROM? (MUST the ROM be replaced when rooting?)
Is there a way to install a stock ROM? (the new ROMs look great but are still early builds - I think the best is yet to come and would rather wait, for now)
If, as promised, the Desire gets an OTA update to support apps2SD and/or divX, etc in the future, will I have to wait for a custom ROM based on the update because I rooted the device?
(Ops, if this should be in the dev forum, feel free to move it)
Rooting should unlock it - perhaps others can step in to ensure that. The last step in the root process is installing a rooted ROM. Paul's default ROM that gets flashed in that step is nothing but the stock Desire ROM (the one from HTC direct) modded to allow root. Sounds like that's what you want.
If the Desire later gets updated and you want it, you will have to wait for HTC to come out with an official update, or (since you're rooted), you'll most likely be able to get it sooner via the rooting community. HTC has to take time and make sure everything's perfect with Sense, etc. before they release an update. The root community doesn't usually have that hold time.
If you do wait for an official ROM from HTC, there's a chance installing that after rooting will revert your root, i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
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but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network
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3's Desire's are 100% unbranned and unlocked. I've got one right here and checked it just now with an o2 sim and it worked, although I do actually use my 3 sim in it! They get them stock from HTC and bundle a SIM card pack with them - According to 3 Blog. That may well change in the future, but it was the case when I picked mine up last Sunday.
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i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
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what is this extra fun stuff? apps to SD? (doesn't really affect me). What else? What am I missing. No idea of the real advantages of rooting so hoping to learn about the practical applications of rooting.
been reading loads of posts on various forums, what is best/safest way to root my orange desire?
also is it possible to delete system apps?
i keep getting low on storage errors all the time, but can only delete ones ive downloaded from market
all help appreciated
If you have read the posts i dont see why you dont know the answer? there is no best way its whatever you think is easiest for you.
well ones ive read mention that they get no network error when trying to root on orange
was only looking for a solution to that m8
I think you just need to avoid updating the radio - that was the only thing causing trouble for Orange users that I noticed.
thanks for that m8, will need to look into that some more
I flashed my rom (before root) to a generic one, then once the root was released i rooted and flashed with a custom rom, still working fine, on orange.
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I flashed my rom (before root) to a generic one, then once the root was released i rooted and flashed with a custom rom, still working fine, on orange.
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when you flashed it with a new ROM will it unlock the Phone? I have Desire in Orange but plans to bring it in Philippines and use a different sim card.
Ok, i had a G1 & i never rooted it, now i have the the Desire & havent bothered rooting it as i think Android seems to be cool from stock.
But theres a few apps i want to use that require root access to use, so my 3 questions are.
1, if i root my Desire do i have to install a different rom? As i like the way the stock Android runs
2, is there a sort of "1 click root" like the iphone jailbreak, as ive seen apps like "easy root" that claim it instantly roots your phone, bit then on here people talk about gold cards ect...
3, if i do root the Desire, will i still get the network pushed OTA updates? As im on vodafone & they havent pushed 2.2 out yet so i want to get it from them, also if i will get them, when i update will it un-root my phone like iphones updatespatch jailbreaks.
Thanks in advance for replys, as i said im not interested in usijg custom/different roms, i only want to use apps that require root access, like cache cleaners ect... but i still want the stock android + sence with my OTA updates.
Thanks
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1. there are rooted version of the stock ROM available, check the Dev forum
2. Follow this - http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
3. No you won't get it, and returning to stock should you want to will obviously remove root. It's best to get your stock Vodafone ROM to have for warranty reasons...
Hey guys!
I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2! I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
Soo, I have been doing a lot of reading regarding rooting, perm and temp, android , etc! I was a iphone 3GS user, so I don't have that much experience or any at all with android.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
I am interested in rooting my g2. I checked the wiki out. However, there are couple of things I am not sure of.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
Any links that would explain it, would greatly help me!
thank you guys & gals for help and replying !
Just asked this question
1. http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
2. http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
3. (Optional Custom ROM) http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Watch the videos most helpful. Also OTA is over the air update that for offical updates t-mobile pushes out.
You know you've got the latest OTA when no more show up
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Haha that makes me laugh every time I see it
There's a lot of great reasons to root, but a lot of great reasons also to stay with stock (like warranty). You DON'T need root to use an unlocked handset with another carrier. Just the APNs for that carrier (see Android manual for how to add one).
So, that said, the XDA wiki under HTC Vision has a lot of great info on rooting and SuperCID and custom ROMs, as does Cyanogen's site.
Stock ROM basically means "official" or "pre-loaded" ROM -- the one that the phone came with.
But before you begin anything I strongly encourage you to Google what "root" means on Linux and what it allows you to do, and ask yourself if you really need root before you start trying to get it on your G2. If you're not a hacker and just plan on using apps from the market you probably don't need it anyway. But I'll leave that decision up to you.
Thank you for all your insightful replies!
Yes, I have read regarding rooting and linux . I am sort of an hacker , since I've worked on iphone stuff.
Thanks for the links. I will have a look at them! I appreciate all your efforts.
Ok you need to set up an androidsdk environment. You need jdk for it to work. And while not necessary putting the tools directory for the sdk in the path definitely saves a lot of typing copying and pasting.
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I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2!
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Congratulations!
I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
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$8 isn't too but but you didn't need to spend that, the recommended method for obtaining root has an (optional) side effect of unlocking the phone. You will see this referred to as the "gfree" method.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
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Yes OTA means "Over The Air" when your carrier sends an update for your phone over the cellular airwaves it's an OTA update. These updates are official an only designed for the stock ROM.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
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A "Stock ROM" is simply the ROM that came installed on your phone, any phones updated by an OTA update could also be considered to be running a stock ROM. Generally it refers to the OS version your carrier and manufacturer want/expect you to have. This is opposed to a "Custom ROM" which is a customized version of Android, there are a number of different custom ROMs for the G2 each with their own features and capabilities.
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
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Every phone comes with a stock ROM, by definition.
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
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When a new OTA update is released, it takes a little while for the update to reach all the devices. There hasn't been a new OTA for the G2 in a while and AFAIK there has only been one so far. I would expect that if you just got your phone you would have received an OTA update within a day or two, and now would be up to date. As long as you are running a stock ROM you will receive new OTAs as they are released, if you root your phone but maintain the stock ROM (the state my own G2 is in right now) you would generally want to avoid installing any OTA because the update could cause you to lose root without the ability to get it back (if the OTA fixes the security hole that allowed root to be obtained)
Regarding temp vs permanent root. When the G2 first came out people had a hard time obtaining root, They first obtained "temp root" which persisted until the phone was rebooted. With a temp root any changes you make will be gone the next time you reboot your phone, because security settings of the phone prevent those changes from actually being committed to the phone. For example if you temp root your phone and remove the built in PhotoBucket application you will see that the app is back when you reboot next. Eventually they discovered how to obtain "permanent root" which will allow you to keep your root access across reboots and allows you to make permanent changes to your phone. An essential part of permanent root is defeating the security settings that prevent permanent changes to the phones memory. It should be noted that you first need to get temp root before you can get permanent root.
Just regarding the gfree method.... it does work quite well. But it did introduce a few unexpected quirks to my G2. I went back to all stock configs and decided I didn't need root so badly afterall. But it was nice to know how easy it was to do such a thing on a phone considered at one time to be unrootable.
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Hello!
I bought a brand new HTC One M9, GSM factory unlocked and I'm wondering if I should root it already or are there any downsides other than voiding the warranty? I had Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300 before it and I had it rooted for 3 years so I'm used to having a rooted phone. On the HTC I'm not planing on changing the ROM (which I did constantly on my previous phone), I want to root my HTC so I can use Xposed and TWRP or CWM recovery (Still uncertain which is better).
So should I go for it or nah?!
Nah. And this is my reasoning..
I was in the same boat, I9300 to m9, rooted to non rooted. At the time it was known to be dodgy to root and mess with an m9 and i also figured I'd wait till i could afford s-off.
I postponed it for about a year and a bit, absolutely no issues, didn't need to root for any specific reason except i had root on the samsung and missed messing with xposed.
Bought a new car and decided to upgrade the stock radio to a fancy pants pioneer sph-da120 for a reasonable £350. Then i found out about ARunchained for screen mirroring my phone on the pioneer and needed root so i could control the phone from said pioneer radio. Ended up sending the radio back as it kept overheating. No longer need root to control phone from the car radio.
THAT is the only reason i rooted and s-off'd.
So, xposed doesn't work with s-off phones and I'm not going to s-on again as it'll be a waste of money.
Xposed can easily brick your m9 if you use the wrong mods.
No other reason to root.
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Nah. And this is my reasoning..
I was in the same boat, I9300 to m9, rooted to non rooted. At the time it was known to be dodgy to root and mess with an m9 and i also figured I'd wait till i could afford s-off.
I postponed it for about a year and a bit, absolutely no issues, didn't need to root for any specific reason except i had root on the samsung and missed messing with xposed.
Bought a new car and decided to upgrade the stock radio to a fancy pants pioneer sph-da120 for a reasonable £350. Then i found out about ARunchained for screen mirroring my phone on the pioneer and needed root so i could control the phone from said pioneer radio. Ended up sending the radio back as it kept overheating. No longer need root to control phone from the car radio.
THAT is the only reason i rooted and s-off'd.
So, xposed doesn't work with s-off phones and I'm not going to s-on again as it'll be a waste of money.
Xposed can easily brick your m9 if you use the wrong mods.
No other reason to root.
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Thanks for the reply, I'm still a noob when it comes to HTC, but do I have to pay extra for s-off? And can't I just root it and keep security on?
Yes you can. But be careful what you mess with as it's super easy to brick the m9.
Unlock the bootloader, flash twrp 2.9.0.1, flash supersu 2.65, install busybox.
You can only flash roms that you have the base for. Marshmallow roms can only be flashed over a marshmallow base. Lollipop over Lollipop. To change roms as you please and not worry about base roms is where s-off comes into it.
S-off is only available via an app called "sunshine" which you have to get from their homepage. You must be pre rooted and it costs $25/£18 via paypal or credit/debit card. Very easy to do.
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shivadow said:
Yes you can. But be careful what you mess with as it's super easy to brick the m9.
Unlock the bootloader, flash twrp 2.9.0.1, flash supersu 2.65, install busybox.
You can only flash roms that you have the base for. Marshmallow roms can only be flashed over a marshmallow base. Lollipop over Lollipop. To change roms as you please and not worry about base roms is where s-off comes into it.
S-off is only available via an app called "sunshine" which you have to get from their homepage. You must be pre rooted and it costs $25/£18 via paypal or credit/debit card. Very easy to do.
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Thank you! I'm not planing on changing ROMs, I used to do it on Samsung because, well, Samsung's stock ROM is **** lol
Anyway, I think I'm gonna wait a bit until I root it.
Is there a clear step by step guide on here to rooting and flashing?
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Is there a clear step by step guide on here to rooting and flashing?
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Yes there is.
Just look for it.
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