Hi,
I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro, and am not quite satisfied with the ROM they installed.
I want to try some different ROMs, like the O2 Exec, but I want to be able to go back to the original.
How can I create a back-up of the ROM, Extended ROM, and Radio ROM that I can put back at a later date ?
I've already seen grab_it by buzz, but that only makes a .bin file and I have no idea how to put that back if I ever want to revert to this state :/
Thank you,
TB
Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
What do you do with the dump.bin file though?
Rename it to nk.nbf
Ha - that didn't work.
Did you follow the ENCODE/DECODE procedure in BUZZ's site?
Jorgee said:
Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
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Jorgee,
What you mean with:
"Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there"
- What is the PPC folder where I find the content of ExtendedROM?
- How I can trasfer to PC, with ActiveSync? Sometimes I received error messages like "unable to convert file format" or something like that...
- How I can transfer back, is not the ExtendedRom locked?
Let me know...
Luca
To view the Extended ROM, just install TOTAL COMMANDER for PPC
Then in the address bar, put : "\\EXTENDED_ROM" (without the quotes)
Then you will see the contents of extended ROM.
If you want, you can copy the contents of the Extended to your SD card instead so you don't have to connect to your PC.
To unlock your extended ROM (to change/delete/edit the stuff there) you need a certain file which is in the FTP under Uploads/Universal/Tools or something to that effect.
Jorgee said:
To view the Extended ROM, just install TOTAL COMMANDER for PPC
Then in the address bar, put : "\\EXTENDED_ROM" (without the quotes)
Then you will see the contents of extended ROM.
If you want, you can copy the contents of the Extended to your SD card instead so you don't have to connect to your PC.
To unlock your extended ROM (to change/delete/edit the stuff there) you need a certain file which is in the FTP under Uploads/Universal/Tools or something to that effect.
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Hello Jorgee,
I've tried to install Total Commander on my v1640 but when I access \\EXTENDED_ROM nothing is shown...
What's missing?
Thanks
lukeduke71 said:
Hello Jorgee,
I've tried to install Total Commander on my v1640 but when I access \\EXTENDED_ROM nothing is shown...
What's missing?
Thanks
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Jorge I found the mistake, \EXTENDED_ROM is with only one back slash and not with two.
Thank you very much for your help...
I have a Cab file to change the hardware keyboad in the registry [HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Qwerty].
Ok, I have unlocket the Extended ROM (with the ExtROM_Utility.exe) and copy this Cab file, that I have, in the Extended-ROM.
Only one problem I have now, if I copy the Cab file into Extended-ROM and make a reset or hardreset, doas delete it the Cab file simply.
Can someone say me which I can do that to prevent?
Each assistance is welcome, thanks a lot.
Greets Danny.
I found a good and function way to make.
Danny.
Ddriver said:
I found a good and function way to make.
Danny.
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OK. Please could you share your way? How did you solve the problem?
Ddriver said:
I have a Cab file to change the hardware keyboad in the registry [HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Qwerty].
Ok, I have unlocket the Extended ROM (with the ExtROM_Utility.exe) and copy this Cab file, that I have, in the Extended-ROM.
Only one problem I have now, if I copy the Cab file into Extended-ROM and make a reset or hardreset, doas delete it the Cab file simply.
Can someone say me which I can do that to prevent?
Each assistance is welcome, thanks a lot.
Greets Danny.
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I keep a backup copy of all of the executables I run from my Ext Rom in a subdirectory of my SD card. I make the backup before I upgrade and then copy them back to the Ext ROM after a hard reset and unlocking it.
The alternative is to make sure you don't upgrade the ext ROM when you upgrade the ROM. There are three upgrade files in a full upgrade:
nk.nbf - this is the O/S part of the ROM
radio.nbf - this is the Radio ROM
ms.nbf - this is the replacement Extended ROM
If you don't upgrade the Extended ROM (i.e. delete the ms.nbf from the upgrade sub-directory), your extended ROM will be preserved after the upgrade and hard reset. All you will have to do is unlock it. Just make sure you use an unlocking utility that doesn't erase the Extended ROM (i.e. not the one supplied by Jwright). There is one somewhere on the forum. Also, bear in mind that if you don't upgrade the extended ROM, you will lose the benefits of any EXTENDED ROM the ROM upgrade includes.
Looking -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251951&highlight=Extended+Rom+cooking
I make that and goes genial.
But I take not the "uni_extrom_unlocker.cab", I take the "ExtROM_Utility.exe".
Greets Danny.
ExtROM_Utility.exe at attachment. ;-)
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
joey jojo said:
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
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this would be great if you would manage.. would save my orbit!!!!!
please let me know how you get on!...
joey jojo said:
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
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hey joey jo jo... done some searches on this and came up with this link.. don't know if it's what you're thinking of - the instructions aren't for the artemis - but maybe a start?
http://www.modaco.com/Backup_your_Typhoon_ROM-t201334.html
i found this on the Hermes wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
not sure if this is anything that will/can work, im going to have a look but im still trying to locate that cab file that i used on my years old xda 2s/ Blue angel.
i hope it does work for all you people that have paper weights
any comments from the guru's ??
Try this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279446&page=3 talk about 3 programs...
Pocha said:
Try this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279446&page=3 talk about 3 programs...
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interesting,
ill look at this, cheers.
i only have a 256 mb card and i need someone to let me know if that is big enough for a rom dump....... any one help with this?
seemed ok, just backing rom up now.... will try and put it into a format that can be uploaded, mine is the original rom that came with the o2 uk xda orbit, and will/should help bricked devices back to original rom.
im, currently uploading my dump to the ftp, for anyone who knows how to convert this into something flashable.
i have no idea how to do this, so if anyone knows, please do this or pm me with instructions or link and ill do it tomorrow after work.
What program you use to make the dump? I used WM5 test, and I could make a copy of active ROM, but where this progam saves the files? I can't find any folder with these copied files.
Pocha said:
What program you use to make the dump? I used WM5 test, and I could make a copy of active ROM, but where this progam saves the files? I can't find any folder with these copied files.
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i used grab_it.exe from your prev link mate, i now have an image of the rom, but now need to work out how to turn it into something we can upgrade from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
In which form grab_it dump ROM file?, I could only used WM5test and this program copy file per file, doesn't create nb or nbh file or something like that...
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
joey jojo said:
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
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hey... i found this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-256380.html
hope it helps!
joey jojo said:
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
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hope this helps too..
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=1
i'm totally new to this but maybe if you use the htc wm5 rom as a base and then decode that to put your image on top, then encode, it will work?
see for nbh format of decoded roms..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289830
chickyd said:
hey... i found this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-256380.html
hope it helps!
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on that link, there is a coment,
Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
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i think this will only work with an original o2 rom, which isnt available, and i doubt it would work using another operator rom , will give it a go though.
joey jojo said:
on that link, there is a coment,
i think this will only work with an original o2 rom, which isnt available, and i doubt it would work using another operator rom , will give it a go though.
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problem is also that the encode / decode is discussed re nbf compressed files... and the artemis uses the nbh format. this is what the second link was i posted.
looks tough!
chickyd said:
problem is also that the encode / decode is discussed re nbf compressed files... and the artemis uses the nbh format. this is what the second link was i posted.
looks tough!
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it is tough, i have no experience in this, and i tried, ive pm'd a couple of people and awaiting some responses, but i cant see it happening in the sense that it may not be possible to do the upgrade while in bootloader..
but . . . . the mission continues
hi!
Currently there is no way to make a backup other than with pdocread.exe from itsme (istutils). You can make a backup of the OS, SPL, GSM and Extended ROM with it. The problem begins with flashing it back, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it when the phone is fully functional, there is no way to do it when you r phone is stuck in bootloader mode. The only way would be by reconstructing a .nbh file. The problem is that none of the tools that can make a .nbh file work for the Artemis, because the use a wrong signature size. The one who can help us out here is pof but he is a VERY busy man.
rvbcrs said:
hi!
Currently there is no way to make a backup other than with pdocread.exe from itsme (istutils). You can make a backup of the OS, SPL, GSM and Extended ROM with it. The problem begins with flashing it back, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it when the phone is fully functional, there is no way to do it when you r phone is stuck in bootloader mode. The only way would be by reconstructing a .nbh file. The problem is that none of the tools that can make a .nbh file work for the Artemis, because the use a wrong signature size. The one who can help us out here is pof but he is a VERY busy man.
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Then how is possible that bepe could make a custom ROM for arthemis? I thought if you use nbhtool you can make custom ROM for arthemis, btw I posted a msg in original nbhtool post, about what parameters I need to introduce in order to make a fully operational ROM, because when I entered in bootloader mode, and using putty's tool to comunicate with PDA, my device return this msg:
cmd: getdevingo
ARTE10000 HTCE... (and in nbhtool, parameters are only ARTE1000 or ARTE1100)
Signature size when you decompresing a original NBH file is 128 (in original post some people talk about 1024, but when I cooked ROMs with 1024 I have an upgrade failure, and I must reboot PDA), but I really need to know if in nbhtool on Device I Must enter "ARTE10000" and in CID type "HTCE" or not...
Is it possible to modify the file that the RUU writes to the device. I've noticed that when the RUU is installing, it copies a "RUU_signed.nbh" file to somewhere. Im guessing that it then extracts/writes RUU_signed.nbh to the device.
SO would it be possible to replace the RUU_signed.nbh with one that you get frm some custom ROM?
bump. Oh and by the way, if it helps, I'm have a Wing/Atlas/Herald.
I think the idea here is to figure out where the RUU_Signed.nbh file is stored before being written to the device.
Any help?
use winrar with the exe upgrade file...
oh wow. never thought of that. gonna try. hopefully this opens up some sorta new frontier in rom flashing. probably not, but the possibility to be able to flash via modded ruu sounds cool. feasability?
sorry for the double post, but i've now managed to disassemble the RUU via 7-zip and have inserted a custom rom in place of the normal RUU_signed.nbh file. Heres the funny part. How how do a i reassemble it. Maybe it's possible to just RUU without reassembling, but it makes everything easier to manage
Hey yall, I would like to know if anyone could help me out with this one. I have an HTC Touch which is not syncing with my pc, is there a way I could flash my HTC Touch from the flash card.
Thanks in advance
lol, I had the same problem last night but I was able to fix. Might not be the same for you. I read all these different ways of doing it but the easiest way I did it was to copy all the files (extract the .exe with winrar), copy files to formated sd card, and run the "enterbootloader.exe". If this is not the case for you, and all you have is a .nbh, you have to rename the file to VOGUIMG.nbh
If you don't have a bootloader, im not sure as I am not that qualified to make a suggestion.
Hope this helps :x