Hello, newb here. I searched the forums for a guide on getting the Evo fully working on Verizon and didn't find anything. I did see instructions for MetroPCS but that was it. Can someone can provide a step by step on how to get the HTC EVO fully working on Verizon with full data + market + mms etc? (I know 4g won't work). This guide would have to assume that the person was able to have the ESN of the EVO added to Verizon's db...So, let's say that I have the EVO's ESN added to my Verizon account as a Motorola Q with a data plan, will that suffice or do I need the EVO's ESN provisioned as an android phone like an X or incredible for it to work? I can't just do *228 and that will take care of everything, right? I own a copy of cdma workshop so I am able to change the Sprint banner to Verizon and make other similar changes so that's not a problem. The EVO is still new sitting in the box and hasn't been fired up yet, now what?
Please don't reply asking me why I want to do this or commenting on how it won't work. We all know it will work there's just a process that needs to be followed to make it work. Helpful comments only please. And if it can be refined into a guide for others to follow that would be even better. Thanks.
Probably not possible, even though they are CDMA also. But if you just get better signal on verizon, then switch to the hack that allows you to roam on their network and use their speeds.
Impossible unless there is a Verizon branded EVO at some point
The ESN will identify the phone (if it's in Verizon's database (which it won't be (and you can't have it added))) you can't just say "throw this ESN on my account call it a Motorola Q and I'll call *228 and have it activated." I may also be wrong about this part but, I think that Verizon and Sprint use different 3G frequencies.
I know it was possible for the TP, but not sure how and definitely not sure if it is possible for the EVO. Not sure why you would, the incredible is basically the same phone minus the 4g, bigger screen and front camera.
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I know it was possible for the TP, but not sure how and definitely not sure if it is possible for the EVO. Not sure why you would, the incredible is basically the same phone minus the 4g, bigger screen and front camera.
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Plus it also has uncapped 30fps, and an amoled or SLCD if you get a new one
if you can get the esn into the verizon database its fairly easy. you could also use a 'donor' phone thats activated on verizon and use that phones esn/3g profile on the evo.
takes about an hour or so after alls said and done.
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if you can get the esn into the verizon database its fairly easy. you could also use a 'donor' phone thats activated on verizon and use that phones esn/3g profile on the evo.
takes about an hour or so after alls said and done.
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This is what I need to know. EVO ESN is already in Verizon's db. Now what?
Just get a Droid X dude..
Royals said:
Just get a Droid X dude..
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im going to have to agree. its really not worth the hassle
yes it is and why get new phone when u can use already good phone
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yes it is and why get new phone when u can use already good phone
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Meanwhile, 21 months in the future. . . .
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I might be getting an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement for my hero and I live in Milwaukee, WI with no 4G service.
I need to know if anything on the evo goes out and says its a 4g phone other than imei/esn. If so what and can it be disabled or blocked?
Im sorry if this is way out of line. I just trying to gather information at this point.
Lol
As soon as you turn it on, Sprint makes sure you know it's 4G.
Sorry guys just had to ask.
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Ill be getting the phone from best buy as a black tie replacement if i break my Hero.
So ill get the phone unactivated and sprint wont know unless i tell them i got a new phone. I just need to know if the 4g radio can be completely disabled to make the phone look like a Hero (except for the imei/esn).
So IF some how i could "transplant" aforementioned numbers (is this possible? I don't think so) Sprint would think im still using a 3g phone like the hero...
There is no sense in paying a premium for something that I am not able to use.
If Milwaukee ever goes 4G I would like to undo and needed hacks/mods so that I can register for service at that time.
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not possible.
Methods of this kind are not allowed in these forums. Mods please close this thread.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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Lol, I was wondering the same thing.
nothing illegal about this thread, they just wont give u an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement, they will give you another hero.
the back cover says 4G, the bootscreen says 4G, the OS says 4G, what does it matter? If you dont have it you dont have it why do you need to hide it?
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
Not possible, the ESN is tied to the mainboard and its in sprints system.
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yes it has, read the small print every god damn cell phone providers have caps on their unlimited data plans sprints has 5 gb's. If you went over you limit with sprint in the past, they did not complain to no one uses them so they don't call to ***** at their few subscibers
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Good luck. If you take a look around the forums though, you'll see there have been plenty of people trying to get around the fee, & as far as i know, no one has been successful. If it goes any differently, let us know!
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7 Posts and you're already policing the forums?
Someone asking if things are possible is very different than asking about changing an IMEI number.
Your IMEI number is how the carrier recognizes what phone you have. In theory... if you changed that to match your Hero's number then they'd think it was your hero. That is presuming you never turned on your 4G.
The only issue is that I believe it is illegal in the US to spoof your IMEI number. This is a measure taken to allow carriers to block stolen phones from their networks. Makes sense. More info on IMEI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
So sorry, you're going to be out of luck.
^^ And that's how you answer an OP's question, stay legal, and avoid being a ****.
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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Why is it you're not worried about Verizon having the MEID in their system? That is all you should be worried about. If it is not in their system, they will not allow the device on their network.
I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
I'm sure there's a way, you just won't have 4g. May need msl. Just use getprop to get it
Of course its Possible i have did for 2 Carriers in India why not Verizon, get your MEID added and be in touch be me.
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I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
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If you can have it added then I think you're going to have to find out through trial and error, as not many have that kind of access. Let us know how it goes.
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
churro7 said:
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
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Make a donation to suzook to get added to the system, lol.
As far as I know, I remember some people said they could call in and say they were an Alltel orphan - but since it's been a while since the merger I doubt that still works.
need a link
i have it on vz network, talk and text work fine, but data is a no go, i have tried the same methods for cricket...but stillno go. im hoping someone can point me in the right direction
Verizon won't stop you from using a Sprint phone, but they won't help you, either. Assuming the software radio itself isn't the problem, you're basically going to have to wait until there are AOSP kernel and Android builds for both the Epic and Fascinate, then figure out how they differ and hack an Epic build to incorporate the changes in the Fascinate build. Then copy over Verizon's own apps for things like voicemail.
If you need a new radio, all bets are off. AFAIK, radio firmware signed with Verizon's key won't install on a phone expecting Sprint's cert, and vice-versa. Unlike Android itself, the radio firmware is very, very encryption-locked, because it's basically impossible to get a phone with software radio past the FCC if it's not (unless you're only planning to sell it to licensed ham radio operators, and have the means to enforce it). I'm not sure whether it was possible to reflash Sprint WinMo phones to work on Verizon because the radios used the same firmware, because the radio firmware was signed by HTC in both cases, or because someone found a way to defeat the protection.
You'll probably have better luck if you try to get 1xRTT working before EVDO. I believe there's a small difference between the way Sprint and Verizon's EVDO works (one that's entirely due to software and not insurmountable, but might be the reason why Sprint phones doing data roaming on Verizon seem to be limited to 1xRTT, assuming it's not just a business decision by Verizon and/or Sprint to allow Sprint users to only roam at 1xRTT.
Has anyone been able to solve this? I have my epic for sale or trade for a verizon phone with no offers... So I'm curious if I can just take it to verizon with me.. since its bad ass..
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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if someone has a phone active already, they can extract the shared secret and write it to the Epic.
No radio firmware or ROM will make it work or not work.
lots of sprint phones are active on PagePlus. They will activate almost any CDMA device. PagePlus is a vzw MVNO.
I've said enough.. any more might be breaking the rules
I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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It suddenly became against the rules to discuss using phones on different carriers? This is no different from discussing bringing a T-Mobile phone to AT&T and making things work -.- Sure there's no SIM card in this discussion and the technology is different, but that's it.
It is not against the rules. Only making a phone with a bad esn work is.
But this is a question and belongs in Q&A
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What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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but what I've done to make it works for our carrier in Indonesia was back to EC05 bml stock rom then googling about cdma workshop & qpstn then applied them to your epic with Verizon parameters
Is there a real guide on how to get a Sprint Evo 4G working on Boost Mobile? I have searched everywhere on various forums, but have come up empty handed. Except for some youtube videos, no1 wants to even talk on how to do it.
Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
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Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
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No, its not impossible. I have seen it for myself.
Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
Lol no matter if he gives them the esn it dont have to be clean why u think people switch to cricket u need to flash the prl first and then manual add the wdb and mms settings u must have ur boost number first just follow the cricket guide but google boost mms and web servers and uze them along with ur boost prl
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Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
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do what he said but instead of calling back just go onto boostmobile.com and do it there you may need to enter the esn number 3 or 4 times but it will take it.
Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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Lmao im going to call att to give them my esn oh snap I will have a sprint on att impossible dude same as a sprint phone recieving boost with no flash when u flash it call 611 u will here wel,omd to boost not sprint ask anyone look up tbe crap on google
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I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
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I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
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Not wise to keep them on at the same time.
I'd say outright dumb.
But hey, your mileage may vary
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Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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I stand partially corrected
( I am literally standing to)
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I stand partially corrected
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Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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What EVO?
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What EVO?
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Yep
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How do i do it???
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
trizyman said:
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
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You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
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You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
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Thx but no Thx Ive brought many boost/nextel phones. i90/i95/i730/i530/i930 etc. I even use to mod them. Now Ive UPGRADED to have an ANDROID Evo an Im not Downgrading/buying another crappy boost phone. SO if anyone has any useful info plz inform me. Also Ive seen u can gsm unlock the phone how useful is that.
Topic name pretty much sums up the question but would you be able to use an evo on verizon since they are both cdma
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No, not unless you can get Verizon to accept the esn.
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Nope....You can try using their PRL hack, but use it at your own risk.
Would verizon even accept it
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Would verizon even accept it
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Personally I don't know, you can always call a local store and ask.
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Topic name pretty much sums up the question but would you be able to use an evo on verizon since they are both cdma
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I'm not going to say is impossible because as you can see everyday on here at XDA, ANYTHING is possible BUT is properly illegal because it will involve cloning the ESN from a Verizon phone onto the EVO because to tell you the truth, Verizon is NEVER going to allowed a Sprint phone on their network.....especially not one like the EVO! Your best bet is to trade your EVO for the Thunderbolt or something if you really have your mind set on the Verizon network.
this might sound dumb to some of you out there but, Why cant you just unlock the phn and go to one of the verizon authorized dealers (not a verizon store)and have them turn it on. its cdma and all they gotta do is enter the esn.
I know for fact some of those stores dont care what phn you use. they just want the $
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this might sound dumb to some of you out there but, Why cant you just unlock the phn and go to one of the verizon authorized dealers (not a verizon store)and have them turn it on. its cdma and all they gotta do is enter the esn.
I know for fact some of those stores dont care what phn you use. they just want the $
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I believe that Verizon has the same basic policy as Sprint, which is that they don't accept phones that are not Verizon branded. It's not a question of finding a rep that "doesn't care"...the system won't accept an ESN that's not in the database of ESNs for their branded phones. That's how it works for Sprint, and though I had heard some rumblings a few years ago that Verizon would "open" their network to other devices, I don't think that actually happened. Could be wrong though.
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100% no. The person who does it will lose their job. On top of that the people who put in these requests to add ESN numbers to their database have all of their requests checked by the techs who actually have the power to do it. But once again they would lose their job.
Verizon was accepting them if you got the right rep who knew what they were doing, sprint had the touch pro like big red, but with more memory and headphones...people were buying that instead of verizon's..they put a stop to it.
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I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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AFAIK, this is impossible because Sprint will not activate a phone from outside their network.
I believe the CDMA frequencies are incompatible, but don't quote me on that.
Are you sure the Evos are in Verizon? I've heard of them on Cricket and other smaller carriers that use the Sprint network, but not Verizon.
I do not believe this is possible due to Sprint being a jerk. You COULD buy the Droid Razr unlocked and plead with a Sprint rep, but I would say you have next to no chance of getting them to activate it for you. Sprint will only activate a phone that has an ESN number that is in their database, they COULD activate it, but that is against their TOS and no rep even has the power to do it for you, you would have to practically get Dan Hesse on the phone to do it
My advice would be to wait a little bit (unless your current phone is on the fritz and you need a new one now, and in that case, go with the Epic 4G Touch, I love mine!!) and see what is out there, the Galaxy Nexus MAY or MAY NOT come to Sprint, but I would expect at least 2 or 3 top of the line Android devices by the end of Q1 2012...... Ultimately the choice is up to you... Best of luck!!
It is being done you have to unlock the phone so the freg can be changed to work on a different carrier. You do not tell what type of phone u just give the ESN number after you hack the hardware info. You would be surprised how often this is being done. Most of your local cell phone providers have the software to make this happen and when i mean your local cell phone provider. I am talking about the ones that offer service cheap or have the phone in the store that you can buy. the mom and pops.
I have to "lol" at some of the replies. Sprint and Verizon use the same cdma frequencies, 800mhz/1900mhz. Why do you think Sprint phones can voice and data roam on VZW?
Anyway, what the OP wants to do is achievable via *wink* *wink* methods, and it's not easily done anyway but possible.
Google is your friend.
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I thought there was a law against them not allowing this?
When I was with T Mobile (GSM) they were required by federal to give you the subsidy unlock code and could not deny the usage of any other GSM phone on their network so long as the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for being stolen/lost. I could call AT&T to unlock one of their phones to use on T Mobile - obviously data was a nogo because of the AWS band.
So there's nothing like that for CDMA carriers?
Like what newalker91, none Sprint ESN will not work. But any Verizon phone will work on Sprint. You will have to do the same thing as they are doing to the EVO's.
Look for a broken or older Android phone with a good ESN.
huh? Google it!
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For one, the 3G frequencies on Sprint are locked out to phones not registered in the ESN database and the phone will NOT work on Sprint's network. Calling Sprint a jerk for this is ridiculous and shows how little research has been done by the complainant.
For two, this has nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, therefore this thread is being reported as spam/incorrect section.
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If that's the case, how can we load certain PRL's and roam on Verizon's network using 3G? Or is roaming a different story? It would seem we're not exactly "lock out" due to the ESN not being registered, maybe mildly restricted?
There seems to be some major gaps in what you said but I could be wrong, care to elaborate?
As far as reporting this thread, that's a douchey move. The OP has a legitimate question, it just seems people have heard different *facts* about the topic so there's a few different answers. That's no reason to report the thread and try to have it deleted - obviously there's an information issue on this subject that needs to be resolved. Even more of a reason to keep this thread open.
CDMA phones are essentially unlocked. You can get your SPC/MSL, for my Vogue and Mogul, I called sprint ant they gave the MSL even though at the time I was under contract. Now I just use CDMAWS. Everyone knows Verizon's MSL code, 000000. With your msl you can change configurations to your hearts content, provided you have the software.
The problem is that Verizon and Sprint will not activate a meid/esn that is not in their system. Yes they are both protecting their interests by making sure you live up to your agreement but I also think they do not want to take the to time trouble shoot every stinking phone that some yahoo wants to put on their network. Keep in mind every phone they release has been tested and configured to work on their network, they don't some strange phone coming from a Korean/Chinese CDMA network with who knows what settings configured on their network. There are a ton of configuration options that other carriers can use. Thankfully Verizon and Sprint keep the configs on the simple side.
Getting a E4GT on Verizon/MetroPC/Virgin/Boost is a piece of cake. Its one of the easiest phones to do. Many HTC phone are harder to do but can be done. LGs look simple but the Optimus seems to require using LGNPST to unlock some entries before you can get changes to stick. I was using a Droid Incrdible on my Sero plan for 6 months before I changed phones. Going in to details on how is discouraged and I have been warned against doing so by a mod.
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
Applestoandroid-fandroid said:
So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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It's not that simple. You have to use programs to swap the ESNs. As in take the ESN from the Pre and put it on the Droid Razr. And then you give them the Pre ESN (which is really the Droid Razr) and it'll work on Sprint. You'll still need to change some stuff like the APN/MMS settings, among other things, but out of the box, it should make calls/SMS texts.
A little bit of a downer...
Theres only one problem with that... Droid Razr uses a Sim card for network identification. I know its CDMA, but all LTE phones on Verizon require a sim card, also it has no ESN number. So, until Sprint gets LTE, then no Razr on Sprint, unless someone hacks the sim card to have an ESN number (which I have seen with the HTC ThunderBolt), but if Sprint does get LTE, then you have to change the IMEI number with a 4G LTE phone on Sprints Network, and even then, you still only get Sprint 3G, unless they plan to use the same bands as Verizon, but good luck trying to get it on Sprint!
ok here's the breakdown.. because 90% of the info in here isnt correct. few guys said some worthwhile stuff tho.. so everyone dont hate
the droid razr isnt getting on sprint... youre not editing the moto meid. not possible. there are some scripts out there that edit the moto meid on bootup but its buggy and does not work on all motos. unless youre super mobile hacker.. youre not touching this method.
other phones... samsungs/htc/lg... as gedster314 said... can all be easily edited. each individual phone may have its quirks but in general.. they all generally use the same methods to edit meid/3g profiles.
now... as for what Jayjaymac said above about it not being able to work without a sim card. generally this is correct.. when doing everything by the book. but you can remove the sim card and rewrite the serial built into the phone and rewrite it as the meid.. and then youre on cricket/metro/boost etc. now again... youre not editing the moto meid... but its because of how moto locks down their phones.. NOT because of the lte sim. the samsung charge has a weird chipset so no one has interfaced it with QPST yet.. so no meid change there either. the htc thunderbolt can easily be put on any cdma network.. that has a sim. any htc device wouldnt be a problem putting on other networks... vzw gnex would work as well.
tl;dr
the moto cant be done... but not for the reasons people specified in this thread. if u wanna edit meid's.. dont ever choose moto.
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
Korey_Nicholson said:
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
autoprime said:
i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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Ahh misunderstood.
autoprime said:
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices...
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I can Vouch
check this out
or this or this or this if your lazy
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
Why didn't you just reply to the thread this was in?
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