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I just rooted my incredible and I'm using the kernel that came with it stock. I disabled perflock and I left the max speed to 998 and the min speed to 245.
When I'm not doing anything on my incredible, I see that the speed constantly changes from the max to the min. Not even one second passes before it just goes back and forth, back and forth. Is this normal?
Coming from the d1 where it would stay at the min when idle, I'm not sure if what's going on with my incredible is normal.
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Yes that's normal. For better battery life, I'd try a kernel with smartass governor. It spends more time on the lower frequencies.
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Switching to a different kernel will give you the ability to overlook//underfoot the system needed.. this in turn increases battery life.. kingklick, ziggy's, chad's kernel are all well known kernels.. you will want to play with different kernels.. not every kernel will be stable to overlook to certain speeds on certain Rom's.. switching kernels is almost as addictive as switching roms.. always nandroid before flashing anything..
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Typos on my end.. underfoot = undervolt.. overlook = overlook.
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Will those kernels work on my rooted stock incredible?
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Yea! By stock i'm assuming all you did was root. I am currently running SkyRaider 3.5 Sense along with
"2.6.32.26-ubcredujuerbek-12082010 [email protected] #11"
I will edit with links to these two items.
SkyRaider 3.5 Sense - SkyRaider
Chad's Kernel - Incredikernel
My phone runs amazingly fast with sense but yet, even with heavy usage (Texting constantly, on the internet, gmail, even Fring) I can go an easy 24 hours on one charge. If my phone stays screen-off idle I could last at 95%-100% for several hours.
Yes, all I did was root.
Does the chad kernel provide wireless tether and will i still need to disable perflock in setcpu?
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the non stock kernels all disable perflock already, you do not need to do it..
flash the kernel via clockwork, and you are set.. jump into setcpu and adjust some settings and add profiles.. you'll be golden..
What he said ^^
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20twins10 said:
the non stock kernels all disable perflock already, you do not need to do it..
flash the kernel via clockwork, and you are set.. jump into setcpu and adjust some settings and add profiles.. you'll be golden..
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Not quite. I believe Lou's has some tweaks within perflock, so disabling it would lose those.
And most kernel devs, particularly Lou and the ones who use HAVS, advise against using SetCPU. I'd check with your chosen kernel thread for details.
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Also, I wouldn't 'set on boot', at least till you find frequencies that your phone can handle safely. Otherwise, you'll get a 'crash' loop, where your phone starts up just fine, but once you go past the initial lockscreen it'll crash and reboot. Very annoying...
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what rager said... ive put on kernels and ran em high only to get a "boot loop".. its tuff to get out of cause you need to get back into setcpu to scale back otherwise it keep on going.... i learned to put the setcpu app icon on my main screen so i can get there fast to scale back..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866736 can you install these with the stock rom. i wanted to experiment to get better battery life but didnt really want to install a different one.
keith4321 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866736 can you install these with the stock rom. i wanted to experiment to get better battery life but didnt really want to install a different one.
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Some. Make sure it's a sense version if you're using stock sense.
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Also, I wouldn't 'set on boot', at least till you find frequencies that your phone can handle safely. Otherwise, you'll get a 'crash' loop, where your phone starts up just fine, but once you go past the initial lockscreen it'll crash and reboot. Very annoying...
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That exact thing happened to me...pissed me off like crazy at first I was clueless then I just did a restore
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Yeah, if you let it boot loop too long it'll hard boot, which is where the phone cuts off completely. That has happened to me, and it ruins apps.
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Okay so I disabled the battery tweak and just started using set cpu. My set cpu doesn't have a lot of profiles or options even. I would like to know if someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.
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The profiles are user defined so if you havent made any, there won't be any to choose from. What are you trying to do?
I'm trying to make more profiles, or smarter ones. I wanna see what everyone else has..
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Honestly, I don't even use profiles anymore, I just let HAVS do its thing. When I did use them, I used screen off @245 and low batt set to 15% @768.
A HAVS kernel?
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A HAVS kernel?
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Yep. When my phone sleeps, it really SLEEPS. I can go all night without losing a single % point.
This site has two profiles setup for SetCPU
http://home.comcast.net/~evobenchers/howtos.html
I'm curious about what kernel to use. Kings#11 sucked, netarchy cfs was bad..and seems like the only one tolerable was stock but I need to have good battery power..I'm currently using ziggy471
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I am getting great battery life with MikFroyo and stock kernel. If you use a HAVS kernel be careful overclocking it, increasing CPU speed with decreased voltage from the HAVS can harm your phone
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I'm getting annoyed with these kernels. So far the only ones that work are ziggy471 and stock 17. I really want to switch to myns two point two rls 5. Problem with that is I don't want to upgrade my radio and lose something. So how do I upgrade without fixing the radios?
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I updated my radios and then downgraded my PRI back to 1.77, its easy and works great.
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MikFroYo V4.5
HTC #15
Amon's Recovery
I have found this link but it doesn't say anything about being "beta 8"...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
Can anyone assist?
Thanks!
Page 298, Chad posted a download link.
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Thanks! I would have never found that. Unfortunately, the link is broken or (more likely) the server is down. I'll give it a try later.
Thanks!
I have it, if you hold on a sec I'll try to get it uploaded or a link. Not used to uploading from my phone.
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I have it, if you hold on a sec I'll try to get it uploaded or a link. Not used to uploading from my phone.
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I FOUND IT. It's actually linked at the bottom of the first page of this thread. I thought it would be the old one but it's updated.
Thanks!!!!
http://db.tt/b1YMeKf
Ah, and I signed up for dropbox, uploaded it and everything. Haha oh well, there's another link.
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Very cool of you.
Now trying to see if it actually worked and then see if it actually produces any benefits.
No problem! I've been running beta 8 for most of today and its been nice. My settings are 128/1113, smartass governor. Chad's new ingenious governor is coming along nicely, I just find smartass to be a bit more stable for CPU intensive apps.
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No problem! I've been running beta 8 for most of today and its been nice. My settings are 128/1113, smartass governor. Chad's new ingenious governor is coming along nicely, I just find smartass to be a bit more stable for CPU intensive apps.
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You just stepped about 2 jumps ahead of where I am. I have SetCPU and I assume that's where you find the smartass governor. So it's wise to switch to that?
I had a fail here. None of my SD card app's icons loaded. I had the same problem when I upgraded to CM#90. I think I know how to fix it...
Sorry about the lingo haha, yes, I believe you can set the governor in setCPU. I'm using cyanogenmod which has built in performance settings and I've heard using that WITH setCPU can cause conflicts. I was just saying that I set my minimum to 128mhz and max to 1113mhz and use the smartass governor. As I understand it, the governor controls how the CPU scales for certain tasks, etc. I think the smartass governor is made for performance and efficiency (I.E turning CPU usage down when screen is off then increasing CPU with usage). Chad's new "ingenious" governor also does this but is new and improved, however does have some issues and thus still a beta kernel. Hopefully that made some sense!
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I haven't played around with the CM performance settings. I might just uninstall setCPU for now and use those. I don't need any more conflicts!
All you need is in that performance menu, the governor you choose takes care of what you would use profiles in setCPU for.
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Well... b8 does not install correctly for me. I don't get my icons for apps on the SD card. I tried clearing my cache, battery, dlavik first then installed. No icons. Rebooted again too.
I had the same problem on the update to CM#90 but clearing all those caches resolved it.
I would go report this on the main thread but it won't let me post. I'll have to wait and let Cyanogenmod update its kernel along the way.
So you're missing icons for apps that are installed on SD? Did you install them directly to SD or move them later? Where is it that the icons are missing from, the app drawer, home screen, etc? I have some apps on my sd and I've never heard of that happening, I'd be interested to see what's causing it.
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I installed them normally then moved them to the SD card. Its the icons on the home screens. They appear normally in the app drawer. I have no clue why they won't load. I know that clearing all those caches and manually installing the ROM eliminates the problem.
I am just assuming it's the apps on the SD card. I guess I should pay a lot closer attention next time. It is a great deal of the icons. Maybe it's just the apps I moved that apps2sd did not suggest but I moved them anyway.
Still waiting for build #91 thinking maybe it addressed the problem.
I have read before that any apps with widgets need to be on internal storage.
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me too. But these aren't widgets. They all come back when I perform that ritual of deleting all the caches. Just not with b8.
Weird, I thought you said icons but that was the only thing I could think of that might cause that issue. If you flash another kernel, the icons come back though?
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anw, is this kernel works on [sense 2.1] gingersense remix b4 by wdfowty?
I'm running back into the problem of custom Roms freezing on me, no FC's, just the phone freezing and requiring a battery pull to re-boot. I odin EC05 plus, let it boot and sit for a few minutes, reboot, let it convert, flash cwm purple, wipe, then flash whatever rom, and eventualy they all freeze.
The only roms to never give me that problem is CM7, MIUI and true stock.
Tried everything, except for not using the stock cable, but even still, cm7 and miui have no problem.
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I've had the same problem with SRF 1.2...and I linked the problem to certain SetCPU settings like on demand and userspace and to undervolting to much in the higher OC'd frequency ranges...even though I've experimented wih these settings and found a somewhat stable medium...I still get the random freezes once in a blue...I don't know what else it could be.
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Right now I'm on SRF with the 1.1.1 Kernel, using setCPU 200-1000, cfq, and no undervolting at all. I was on the 1.1.0 Kernel using voltage control when I had it freeze. I've uninstalled voltage control and galaxy tuner. Oddly enough setcpu dosent fc when I go into the voltages, which it did a few flashes back.
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What problems do you think Galaxy tuner was giving you...I'm using it right now?
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I wasn't sure, but I figured with using setcpu it would be best to uninstall it so there wasn't any sort of conflicts between the two.
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I'm not sure I follow where the conflict btwn those 2 apps would be...once controls cpu speed, governing, and voltage...and the other controls screen brightness and sound attributes...not trynna be a smart ass I'm just trynna make the connection?
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In galaxy tuner there is some options for overclocking, as well as IO scheduling.
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At any rate. Ill sell you my phone fully uv and tweaked for max battery and speed
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You didn't read my OP, I have no problems at all with FC's, my problem is the phone freezes and I have to pull the battery to restart.
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At any rate. Sounds like your phone is garbage. Make sure you enable journaling to help mend the fc's.
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Skimp Killah said:
You didn't read my OP, I have no problems at all with FC's, my problem is the phone freezes and I have to pull the battery to restart.
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If you aren't undervolting and are having this issue on multiple ROMs, it sounds like a conflict between some apps like you suspected. That or something is not right with your phone. Freezes happen to me when undervolting too much but you aren't doing that....edit...maybe your phone just doesn't like the 200 minimum that well. If I remember right, stock values are 1000 max and 400 min.
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I'm wondering if maybe the 200mhz is whats doing it then, I always figured 200-1000 was stock, and the phone would only freeze when the screen was off. Right now I'm using setCPU with it set at 200-1000 with cfq IO scheduling. If I have more freezes I will try bumping up to 400-1000.
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If you aren't undervolting and are having this issue on multiple ROMs, it sounds like a conflict between some apps like you suspected. That or something is not right with your phone. Freezes happen to me when undervolting too much but you aren't doing that....edit...maybe your phone just doesn't like the 200 minimum that well. If I remember right, stock values are 1000 max and 400 min.
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im currently undervolted with the aosp rom from dub with genocide's final kernel...200mhz is perfectly fine...if 200 is underclocked too low or other frequencies are too low...sod or freezes will happen with the frequency with the wrong voltage is reached..i have setcpu and voltage control together but mainly use the new setcpu...when idling, i see a 1 percent draw in 2 hours and 6 minutes...and use stability test whenever you underclock to see if it safe to use...just my 2 cents...
ive been running ICS since i got my phone, the battery life was horrible until i fixed the power profile, but even after that my phone's battery was not that good. i decided to flash CM10, then i switched to AOKP, both of them are awesome, but i noticed that the battery wasnt that good either, i got the ktonnsez kernel. i tried other governors, they all stay at maximum (1512MHz) after about 5 minutes of a reboot. i tried basically everything, reflash every thing, wiped everything possible. I need help plz, i wanna enjoy my S3 without worrying about the battery dying.
its all normal when i start my phone, but after 5 minutes it just stays at maximum CPU...idk why plz help im on galaxy s3 ATT i747M...i searched everywhere but still didnt find the answer
If you flashed kt747 you need to use the ktweaker app that comes with the kernel. When you find this app you need to check the two boxes into general settings
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Have you solved this yet?
Try a different governor. Personally I use on demand and noop for the scheduler.
Make sure you don't have any other overclocking programs which may be conflicting. I used to use SetCPU but with the toonz kernel I get Ktweaker. So I got rid of SetCPU.
Funny yours is locking at maximum. Mine used to lock at 96Mhz and run like crap. The above method worked for me. Don't forget to make sure your running the most updated kernel, wipe cache/dalvik/fix permissions.
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If you flashed kt747 you need to use the ktweaker app that comes with the kernel. When you find this app you need to check the two boxes into general settings
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Tyvm, i did what u told me and its working for now, i was using ktweaker the whole time, but i like to check my current speed in ROM control, idk why maybe cuz the numbers are bigger? ;P im still not sure if its going to work for a long time, i did a reflash yesterday, i charged my phone at 100 percent last night, and it was sitting on low frequency, when i woke up, i was suprised to see a 6% drop of the battery, leaving me 94% left. but the speed was at 1512. and cell standby was using most of the battery.
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Have you solved this yet?
Try a different governor. Personally I use on demand and noop for the scheduler.
Make sure you don't have any other overclocking programs which may be conflicting. I used to use SetCPU but with the toonz kernel I get Ktweaker. So I got rid of SetCPU.
Funny yours is locking at maximum. Mine used to lock at 96Mhz and run like crap. The above method worked for me. Don't forget to make sure your running the most updated kernel, wipe cache/dalvik/fix permissions.
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TY, ive tried switching governors before and it didnt work. But when i tried this morning, it worked... really strange.
Idk if it will last long, my phone likes to jump around from normal to maximum without me even touching the phone
Use ktweaker instead of the rom settings. Go to the performance section in settings and disable set on boot. Then, go to ktweaker and set as "apply settings immediately after boot". Once you're done, set to whatever you want it to be.
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