[Q] ROM and DATA backup - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hallo guys,
in order to try different roms on my phone, I would like to know witch is the best way to backup my current ROM, is there a way to create a ROM zip file with all my settings, accounts, apps, contacts, sms, ... witch I could reflash in case I need?
I've tried ROM Manager but is going to create me many files.
What about Nandroid backup (on Hboot/Recovery menu)?
And Titanium backup?
Should I use one of those backups to restore my system data and user data in case of a new rom flash?
thanks a lot
regards
Miniera77

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Dilemma n newbie in custom roms

and i still dilemma on whether to flash OpenDesire or the Original rooted froyo....
Need to clear something in my mind for flashing steps;
1)Root my device(DONE!)
2)Backup Nandroid
3)Run Titanium Backup
4)Flash my chosen custom ROM
5)Restore files using Titanium Backup again.
a) thats it right? btw whats with the Radio? do i need it? i see some got with radio and some dont. what is it for and why?
b) and about Titanium backup, i just backup all the stuffs, and restore them all just like that correct?
c) and all my settings/preferences/options for my apps will not be lose right(for example fonts, colours, settings in handcent sms, etc)?
d) and one more thing, all of my purchased apps from Paid market still be useable ? or need to download again?
1)Root my device(DONE!)
2)Run Titanium Backup/backup everything
3)Backup Nandroid
4)Wipe
5)Flash my chosen radio
6)Flash my chosen custom ROM
7)Restore files using Titanium Backup again.

Phone Backup Confusion

What does clockwork do exactly when it comes to backing up your data? Does it just do the important files or the entire phone?
REAL QUESTION:
I have viper rom installed. When the real froyo gets released or an updated Viper rom is release, what do I do?
1. Do I use clockwork to do ALL my backup and restoring? If not, what programs do I use?
2. I have some apps installed on the microsd card too, what app will restore those files once I flash my phone with a new rom?
3. everytime I do a backup with clockwork, do the older backups get erased?
4. What are your suggestions on how I should do my backup?
jd254 said:
What does clockwork do exactly when it comes to backing up your data? Does it just do the important files or the entire phone?
REAL QUESTION:
I have viper rom installed. When the real froyo gets released or an updated Viper rom is release, what do I do?
1. Do I use clockwork to do ALL my backup and restoring? If not, what programs do I use?
2. I have some apps installed on the microsd card too, what app will restore those files once I flash my phone with a new rom?
3. everytime I do a backup with clockwork, do the older backups get erased?
4. What are your suggestions on how I should do my backup?
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CWM (Clockwork Mod) performs a full backup of all system data, which includes the ROM and Kernel, any theme you have installed, all apps and their respective data, as well as any other settings. I would not suggest using only clockwork for your backups, a program such as Titanium Backup would be a better bet in case your NAND gets corrupted, which would disable your ability to restore from backup. Clockworkmod and Titanium Backup can both backup and restore apps on the sdcard, so I wouldn't worry about that. The backups in clockwork are concurrent, meaning that each time you do a new one it saves it as a completely separate backup containing only the files that you backed up on that occasion. I personally use clockwork for large backups such as individual ROMs, and then titanium for my apps and data. I hope this helps, feel free to pm me if you have any more questions/need more explanations!

[Q] flash vs recovery

Hiya, i've got to satisfy my curiosity. In any instructions in flashing roms, it is always said to make a recovery image. So my question is:
What is the difference between flashing a zip and restoring a recovery?
I know that a recovery will save setting and contacts etc, but in real terms of "i've got a bootloop and need to change my rom", what would the problem be in flashing from a zip and using my backup root to restore everything else?
Any replys greatly appreciated!
When you flash a new rom (zip) the settings, ... are stock (from the rom). After a restore everything is like you backed it up (normally ) - at least the settings, apps,... . I would recommend you to backup the apps also with TitaniumBackup or another equal app and the sms with Sms Backup & Restore. Just to be on the safe site
thans for the quick reply. just to clarify, is my backup (nandriod) was corrupted or by some freak chance i lot my sd with it on, there is not technical difference in just flashing a zip?
If you lose your backup (or it is corrupt,...) you loose your settings, apps and so on (->) After the installation of the rom there are only the stock apps, the stock "Desktop",... You could "repair" your phone with the rom, but a restore would be better in most cases

[Q] Rom backups and restore...

Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.

[Q] ROM Backup

Hi guys, quick question. I want to start flashing other roms but how to i make a backup of my current ROM?
Do i just enter CMW then do a backup from there?Does that backup mean the whole rom is backed up or just the apps and firmware? Is there somethign else i need to do?
Let me know, thanks in advance
That's what you do. It's a nandroid backup, so your complete system is backed up.
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Just make sure you :
- DONT wipe out data and
- DONT make a factory reset
before making a backup
Thanks guys =) cant wait to flash Roms now
All The Best
Doing a nandroid is essential as it's an image of your phone you can go back to at any time.
I also would recommend downloading a backup app so you can save just your data and apps, it makes changing ROMs easier as you can just restore these onto your new ROM.

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