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Application Space

I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?

Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
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As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.

Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM

Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.

So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......

I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?

Anyone....really......come on....

MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.

Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF

Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.

The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.

Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.

Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
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Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.

Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol

bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.

I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.

bmancell said:
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583

[Q] desire alpharev issue

Hi,
after S-OFF (alpharev) i tried to flash the resize partition image (bravo_alphaspl.img)...but after completing the procedure i did not get any extra internal memory..i was still stuck with 148mb..though i should get around 190mb
i followed the instructions
1) S-OFF
2) flash HBOOT bravo_alphaspl.img
3)wiped evrythin(system,cache,data) from recovery
4) nandroid restore
what wrong have i done???

Afaik, you flashed the same partition table that you had before. You have to pick another from the list on alpharev.nl. It depends how much space do you need for your system partition, e.g. oxygen's system fits in a 90 MB partition and you get loads of space for your apps. So it's up to you to decide.
Personally, I'm using the sense table: 50 MB more for apps and enough space to play with different roms.
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Hi Yeti,
Yeppm,think so too, he has flashed the original Tables *lol*
Write another one
but be ensure that your "BACKUP" Fits on the new Paritions sizes, if the new partitions are to small, you cant restore your backup
Greetz
Joachim
Sorry for Bad english, i´m from Austria (I should write this as Signature here )

thanks alot...
will give it a shot to bravo sense..
Thanks

Hi..
I just noticed that the system.img (backup) is of 236mb so what should i do to make it below 180mb as i am trying to flash bravo sense

just out of curiosity have u looked to see what rom u want 1st? depending on the rom u want will depend on what hboot they recommend to use with it.

i want to go with the original rom that was pre-installed in the ph (as it is the most stable rom)..i jus want some extra internal memory.
also i have noticed a small issue... i hav a fat32/ext4 partioned microsd card and i have move2sd enabler and app2sd to move the apps..i downloaded a sw(10 mb)...which was installed on the card by default but it also took the same space in the internal memory.

pulkitjeel said:
i want to go with the original rom that was pre-installed in the ph (as it is the most stable rom)..i jus want some extra internal memory.
also i have noticed a small issue... i hav a fat32/ext4 partioned microsd card and i have move2sd enabler and app2sd to move the apps..i downloaded a sw(10 mb)...which was installed on the card by default but it also took the same space in the internal memory.
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K well from what ive read on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13767135
the bravo sense seems to be for sense roms with a lot of default apps removed(maybe a veteran xda member can confirm this too).
I would recommend you stick with the stock hboot and just go with something like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
both the above links seem to be the default rom u want but also with a2sd+ built in so flashing them will use the ext/2/3/4 u have on your sd card so u should notice a big diff in internal memory usage.
or even go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703 this is the leedroid rom based on froyo 2.2 but with a2sd+ and a few other tweaks etc. Still uses stock hboot so less hassle and has all your looking for.

Totally agreed. You can also look for teppics rom, which is stock with a2sd support.
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[Q] Memory and Ram Issue on InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1

I recently installed InsertCoin's CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1, after installing my internal memory has become really low and i only get 120mb of ram when i got 220mb on the official 2.2. I have partitioned my sd card using gparted. I made a normal fat32 and a EXT4. Do i need to make a EXT3 partition? also how would i know if the apps are on my sd card since i cannot move them manually with application manager. Please can you help me. Thanks
Phone info:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off using Revolutionary
Rooted with Unrevoked
Current Rom: Official HTC 2.2

Its normal to have low than froyo couse its gb android
And no u dont need ext3 just ext4
If u wanna know if ur apps goes to ur ext4 in ur sd card
Go to market search quick sysktem info pro
U will notice A2SD PARTITION label under basic info
It will tell u how much used and how much free
Dont get mad of free 120 mb i have 87 app installed
All workes fine
Hope iam usefull

do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.

ruhelking1 said:
do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.
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How big ist your ext 4 Partition?

i made a 2gb etx4 partition using gparted. I think the apps are going on to the ext4 partition from the memory reading on System Info but im still getting low memory notification

i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see

Just to refresh
MY PHONE INFO:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off with Revolutionary
Rooted using Unrevoked
ClockworkMod Recovery
Currently on Instertcoin 1.1.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940)
16gb Memory card = 12.9gb Fat32 and 2gb EXT4
Wiped Data and everything else before 1st install (Dalvik cache,cache)

ruhelking1 said:
i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see
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Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.

grandem said:
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.
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how would i move the dalvik cache. Also if i use the A2SD+ version of the rom, would i install it exactly the same as CM7 or would i have to do something different pre or post install?

SOLVED!!!!
i flashed the CM7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl by downloading the hboot, naming it PB99IMG.zip and using clockwork recovery to update the hboot. then i installed Insertcoins 1.1.2 rom.
WARNING!!!!
FLASHING A NEW HBOOT WILL MAKE YOUR OLD NANDROID BACKUP REDUNDANT, YOU CAN ONLY USE ROMS WITH CM7

[Q] No free memory with app2sd (InsertCoin 1.1.4)

Hi everybody,
I've rooted my HTC Desire and installed the InsertCoin Sense 2.1 CM7 1.1.4 ROM. It works great, but the main resean of rooting my phone is creating more space on internal memory.
So, I've installed Titanium backup and moved my apps to SD. With the 'App2SD' app I can see the apps moved to the SD card. But unfortunately the available space on the phone itself didn't change. So now I'm stuck with 8.41 MB of free internal memory.
Who knows a solution???

hermanium said:
Hi everybody,
I've rooted my HTC Desire and installed the InsertCoin Sense 2.1 CM7 1.1.4 ROM. It works great, but the main resean of rooting my phone is creating more space on internal memory.
So, I've installed Titanium backup and moved my apps to SD. With the 'App2SD' app I can see the apps moved to the SD card. But unfortunately the available space on the phone itself didn't change. So now I'm stuck with 8.41 MB of free internal memory.
Who knows a solution???
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recommend you read this
it's long, but hopefully your understanding will be better afterwards

Great, this was exactly what I'm looking for. Now I understand the difference between A2SD+ and CM7. I've installed the latter, hence the internal memory problem. Changing to the A2SD version will probably fix this, but I read a lot about the CM7 being faster than the A2SD.
I'm gonna give it a try!

hermanium said:
Great, this was exactly what I'm looking for. Now I understand the difference between A2SD+ and CM7. I've installed the latter, hence the internal memory problem. Changing to the A2SD version will probably fix this, but I read a lot about the CM7 being faster than the A2SD.
I'm gonna give it a try!
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glad it was useful, also reassuring to hear that you're learning along the way!

I solved the problem and compared to rooting and s-offing the phone, this was really easy. It wasn't necessary to install the A2SD version. I stayed with the CM7 version of Insertcoin because of the speed advantages compared to A2SD.
The trick is to install a new hboot table. The original leaves little space for apps to install. I downloaded a new partition table from alpharev.nl (Bravo CM7 r2). Make sure you pick the PB99IMG file and after downloading rename it to PB99IMG.zip. After checking the checksum, I copied it to the root of SD card on the phone. Switched off the power and went into fastboot (hold power and volume down and navigate to fastboot). There you'll be prompted if you want to install the update. Select yes and the new table was installed in seconds. I rebooted the phone, and without re-installing backups, it worked instantly! Now I have 145 MB free! It sounds like an advertisement, but it wasn't any more difficult than this. No need for using command prompts or android flasher...

[Q] Gingerbread RUU gone?

I want to s-off and currenty have hboot 0.80 which means i need to flash a newer RUU, probably 3.14.405.1
the xda dev official htc desire ruu roms link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667) only goes up to 1.21.405.2 so thats no good
There are various links on the web pointing me to : http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
but this no longer works, i had a look at the source code and the rar file is in there but the link is invalid.
i tried installing htc sync but my desire isnt recognized, even after switching off usb debugging in the phones options.
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Anyoe have a link to the 3.14.405.1 RUU?

I reuploaded it here.

Chromium said:
I reuploaded it here.
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thank you, i'll give that a whirl

dougsdir said:
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
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Just to clarify, mount2sd does not technically need s-off.
To use any form of A2SD properly, you only need a correctly partitioned sd card, and a ROM which can run init.d scripts to move combinations of apps / dalvik and data to the sd-ext partition. So firstly make sure your sd is partitioned using gparted, or use 4EXT recovery once you are s-off. Do not use minitool or clockworkmod to partition. Then in most cases after use activate A2SD, you keep you apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to the sd-ext.
The main reason for gaining s-off is so you can change hboot, which is how your actual nand intnernal memory is laid out. Have a look at the partition tables at alpharev.nl
- Currently you are on stock hboot, which has 250MB /system size, and only ~150MB /data (internal memory). The same as before you s-off or root.
- CM7 has a /system size of ~140MB, so you are wasting 110MB
- If you are s-off, you can switch to cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, which has a 145MB /system, wastes only 5MB
- As a result, your /data goes up from 150MB to 287MB
- It's generally a good idea to keep you app data (e.g. saved game data) on your /data partition (internal memory) for speed and stability. 287MB allows for more :good:
- This combined with properly working A2SD as above, you'll have a lot more space for apps

thanks for your help!
i managed to get the Official RUU and then s-off and root and tried a kitkat rom but it kept rebooting within 2 minutes of use .
To be fair it used to randomly reboot every so often when on Stock Rom years ago, i think i read it was a hardware fault but for some reason with CM7 its stable and never reboots.
So I'm back to CM7 and using that HBoot you recommended.
Im happy with the extra space now so dont think i need to bother partitioning the SD Card and using the build in transfer apps to sd i now have 100MB free and that's with a few apps installed. I really only use the phone as a replacement for an ipod touch and before all this i could only get about 4 or 5 apps loaded and was getting the out of memory alert.
Thanks again!