So i got an Evo like last week...I love it, I truly do, except for the low battery which I bought a second one, so no big deal.
Anyways, I love having modded things and I have modded everything from my old HTC Wizard to my PSP. So I am really interested in CyanogenMod or other ROMS.
The thing is though, I downloaded a bunch of apps and synced a bunch of data, and just got the phone look the way I like. My question is...Is there a way to save all the stuff to my SD, so that when I install a new ROM, that all the data and apps and etc is all there? The second part of the question is...should i just wait till EVO gets official 2.2?
I just really don't want to lose my stuff and start over.
iball8888 said:
So i got an Evo like last week...I love it, I truly do, except for the low battery which I bought a second one, so no big deal.
Anyways, I love having modded things and I have modded everything from my old HTC Wizard to my PSP. So I am really interested in CyanogenMod or other ROMS.
The thing is though, I downloaded a bunch of apps and synced a bunch of data, and just got the phone look the way I like. My question is...Is there a way to save all the stuff to my SD, so that when I install a new ROM, that all the data and apps and etc is all there? The second part of the question is...should i just wait till EVO gets official 2.2?
I just really don't want to lose my stuff and start over.
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To keep your apps / data you can use a good backup program like MyBackup or Titanium Backup. I use MyBackup Pro and love it, have not used Ti backup, but I see many users on here that do use it.
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First of all, let me apologize for being very ignorant about most of the stuff on here, even though I am very interested. I have looked and can not find a definitive answer, although I believe I should have antivirus, I have no idea what to use. I have Norton Systemworks on my PC. I also want to root my phone to be able to get rid of some of the factory installed garbage on it. I have been told that it is not wise to delete some of the installed apps because android uses parts of some to make others work. Is there anyway to do a total recovery image of my stock phone so if I totally screw it up, I can fall back on it? I think so, based on what I have read here---but honestly, I got a headache yesterday reading on here and trying to learn. I am not a super-techy guy, I just want my phone to do what I want it to, and none of the extra crap that I don't want. And lastly, should I wait to root my phone until Gingerbread comes out, or will it really matter? While I do know what a rom does and is, I do not understand kernels or most of the other things on here, so i actually need 'hand-holding' through some of this. Thank you for your help...anything you can tell me will help out.
hey man. i am willing to help you thorugh this entire thing. pm me for any more questions, but here is a start. it seems you have a baisic computer working knowledge, so this wont be too hard. first, a kernel is the scripts that let the hardware communicate with the software. the nice thing about this is it can easily be modified and built upon. a few devs have added scripts and stuff to the stock kernels to make them much more powerful and battery efficiant.
this recovery image you are talking about wont fix you phone if you screw it, but it will take you back in time to when you made the backup. you can also unroot to take off any mods you have applied. always remember to MAKE A NAND BACKUP WHENEVER YOU DO ANYTHING WITH YOUR PHONE THAT COULD REMOTELY BE CONSICERED A MODIFICATION. otherwise, you can end up with a very expensive paperweight.
there are partitions on the phone's memory. there are things like userdata and cache, but there are three main ones that we will mess with: system, recovery, and hboot. system is the rom of the phone. it is the software. it si obvious why this would be altered: to get better, more efficiant, or cooler software. then, we have the recovery. this is a factory tool for resetting and manual updating. this is packed with security, but there is no security that keeps us from changing the recovery. get where i'm going? if we change the recovery to one that has been heavily cracked and maybe built from scratch by a very talented dev (i reccomend amonra's recovery) then we can make the phone believe it is being updated when we are really modifying it.
the hboot is a developmental factory partition that is used for total firmware updates and google/android development. removing the security from this is the first stage in rooting.
i would highly reccomend rooting, and would be happy to 'hold your hand' along the way. i hope this helps and does not just confuse you more.
dk
oh, almost forgot. dont wait for gingerbread. the devs will make some roms that will include gingerbread packed in. i actually reccomend you root before gingerbread so you dont have to wait for a root method for that.
lookout antivirus can be found in the market.
Guys no offense. My galaxy doesn't even have froyo so I have no room to talk but I wouldn't get to worried about gingerbread yet. LOL it hasn't even been officially announced
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ksizzle9 said:
Guys no offense. My galaxy doesn't even have froyo so I have no room to talk but I wouldn't get to worried about gingerbread yet. LOL it hasn't even been officially announced
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agreed. cyanogen will probably port it in about january or february. long time, no need to wait.
dkdude36 said:
hey man. i am willing to help you thorugh this entire thing. pm me for any more questions, but here is a start. it seems you have a baisic computer working knowledge, so this wont be too hard. first, a kernel is the scripts that let the hardware communicate with the software. the nice thing about this is it can easily be modified and built upon. a few devs have added scripts and stuff to the stock kernels to make them much more powerful and battery efficiant.
this recovery image you are talking about wont fix you phone if you screw it, but it will take you back in time to when you made the backup. you can also unroot to take off any mods you have applied. always remember to MAKE A NAND BACKUP WHENEVER YOU DO ANYTHING WITH YOUR PHONE THAT COULD REMOTELY BE CONSICERED A MODIFICATION. otherwise, you can end up with a very expensive paperweight.
there are partitions on the phone's memory. there are things like userdata and cache, but there are three main ones that we will mess with: system, recovery, and hboot. system is the rom of the phone. it is the software. it si obvious why this would be altered: to get better, more efficiant, or cooler software. then, we have the recovery. this is a factory tool for resetting and manual updating. this is packed with security, but there is no security that keeps us from changing the recovery. get where i'm going? if we change the recovery to one that has been heavily cracked and maybe built from scratch by a very talented dev (i reccomend amonra's recovery) then we can make the phone believe it is being updated when we are really modifying it.
the hboot is a developmental factory partition that is used for total firmware updates and google/android development. removing the security from this is the first stage in rooting.
i would highly reccomend rooting, and would be happy to 'hold your hand' along the way. i hope this helps and does not just confuse you more.
dk
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Like mhoodie, I, too, am a newbie in need of hand-holding. How do I make a nand backup? My EVO is rooted 2.1 with XDA- WiFi Tether, no 147.651.~.~. How to upgrade to Froyo and maintain root? How can a friend with brand new Evo root and load XDA- WiFi Tether? AFTER these I'd like to know how to flash a ROM. You can communicate with me through this forum or [email protected] or 908-251-3532. Of course I'll contact you any way you like.
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sounds good. i would love to help. i have finals coming up, so i might be a bit busy the next few days, but i will try to help as much as possible. gtalk seems like the way to do it.
these forums helped me when i was a noob, so i'm trying to help out now. next on to do list: pay back for all the roms. (i wish)
mhoodie said:
First of all, let me apologize for being very ignorant about most of the stuff on here, even though I am very interested. I have looked and can not find a definitive answer, although I believe I should have antivirus, I have no idea what to use. I have Norton Systemworks on my PC. I also want to root my phone to be able to get rid of some of the factory installed garbage on it. I have been told that it is not wise to delete some of the installed apps because android uses parts of some to make others work. Is there anyway to do a total recovery image of my stock phone so if I totally screw it up, I can fall back on it? I think so, based on what I have read here---but honestly, I got a headache yesterday reading on here and trying to learn. I am not a super-techy guy, I just want my phone to do what I want it to, and none of the extra crap that I don't want. And lastly, should I wait to root my phone until Gingerbread comes out, or will it really matter? While I do know what a rom does and is, I do not understand kernels or most of the other things on here, so i actually need 'hand-holding' through some of this. Thank you for your help...anything you can tell me will help out.
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I wouldn't worry about using an anti-virus on android, they're pretty much useless and will do nothing but eat up your battery. Once you root you can install a custom recovery that you have to reboot the phone in and that can create backups of all your partitions. Those are called nandroids and are basically a snap shot of how your phone is set up at that moment. You must be rooted to do any of this though.
Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
i have no idea about antiviruses, but you can delete anything that is either a widget or an app in your launcher. everything else is proceed with caution.
definitely root...antivirus is a personal thing...I do use lookout and its free in the market.
after you root...I suggest using titanium backup to uninstall most if not all of those apps you mentioned.
you could also go the custom ROM route...most ROMs out there already have most of those apps removed already.
mhoodie said:
Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
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Antiviruses being useless, so far, on android is just my opinion. If you feel better having one then by all means go for it.
There is a thread around here somewhere that has a list of all the apps you can safely delete, I don't have a link to it atm but you should be able to find it with a quick search.
Imo root now, nothing is holding us back with unrevoked forever, as for bloatware, have you tried flashing a rom? VirusRom Anthrax B4 is my poisen, and its bloat free¡
mhoodie said:
Ok, just because I do not quite understand....why is it that I do not need antivirus on my Evo since I surf the web, download apps, and open emails.....on a PC, the same things without protection against virus, trojans, etc... will get my pc and life screwed in a very short time? And, by 'screw my phone up', I mean if I delete something that I need.....can I just go back---also, is there anywhere a list of the apps that android uses to run other things. Specifically, I want to get rid of the exchange mail, amazon mp3,qik, peep, friendstream, nascar, stocks, news, news and weather. I have no need for these apps, and as most of you know for whatever reason, evo will run them whenever it wants.
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For me, personally, I never have and never will use antivirus programs on my computer. As long as you are knowledgeable, you shouldn't ever get viruses or anything. You just have to know what you are doing.
always willing to help
im no genius but i have been messing with rooting and android since the tmobile g1 and i had to learn all on my own. what everyone is telling u makes absolute sence but the main thing to stress is tell your friend to not update using sprints update firmware because all they do is patch the loophole to gain root access. dont wait for gbread. jump on team douche and cyanogen and enjoy the real power of android and the evo. any quetions [email protected]
Ok, so does it matter what procedure I use to root or do they all do basically the same thing, and then differences begin when I start changing the kernels and Rom around? I am going to try to root in a couple of weeks. Maybe next saturday, and I want to get as much understanding as I can before I jump in. I am sure once I play around with this for a bit I will have no problem, but I am very much a hands-on learner and its hard for me to learn something that is new to me just by reading, especially when most of what I am reading makes very little sense to me. So, thanks to everyone for their patience and help!
Myn's WarmTwopointTwo
Hi there. I was in the same boat as you are. I learned all by trail and error and by reading forum after forum. There is a ton of info out there and it can be a little too much and there are a lot of contradicting statements... I just rooted about 3 weeks ago using unrevoked3. It's the easiest way to root your phone and the safest, at least I believe that. There are other ways, but it include using the command line and things like that. With unrevoked its a very simple user friendly, 3 step process. I would highly recommend rooting your phone, once you do you will never look back. It bring out the full potential in the EVO. The best thing I like about it is I can get about double the battery life of the stock version. Check this ROM out - although it is the only one I tried I am so in love with it, I have absolutely no urge to try another ROM. Here is the second release of this ROM - the third one is in beta testing, which I am doing right now and it is 100% amazing. In order to become a beta tester, all you have to do is donate, or wait until this friday when the final version is released - FOR FREE! Here is the link for the release #2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471#. You can read the thread if you have any questions about it - I know there are 600+ pages. Check out the first page and all the features that are included in this ROM. All the bloatware you speak of are not installed with this ROM. You have the option to install them. Then the other thing is the kernel. With the release 3 of WarmTwoPointTwo it comes with an HTC kernel, which I found to actually be the best out there for this ROM. I have been getting about 29 hours with moderate use with a single charge on the battery!! Pretty good huh? Please let me know if you have any more questions....You can send me a private message if you wish...I'm here to help you. Everyone on this site has been great with helping me and it seems they are willing to help anyone. I hope this helps. Oh you I just remembered you might wait until saturday to root. If you do that, I would def. recommend release #3, but if I were you I would not wait that long!
Here's a screen shot of just my home screen. Notice how much you can customize EVERYTHING. I will post more screen shots when I get time tomorrow.
I am getting ready to root my phone and when I connected to the pc, it was the first time. Drivers installed except for ADB. Is this something that I should skip, or do I need to get a driver from htc for this?
adb is very neccesary. it is obtainable from android's dev page. sorry no link (ipad) just google android go to dev section and hit download sdk.
So for Christmas I got a nexus 7 32GB tab, now ive been browsing the site for a couple weeks now reading about rooting, roms and kernals.
I saw the thread in general about one click rooting ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698 )
and have decided that is most likely the way ill go, how its shown in the first video.
Now for roms ive been thinking that paranoid android may be the best for me, as from what ive read and understood it doesn't have all those google apps the nexus comes with unless you install the google package? can anyone comfirm this? just want to make sure I didn't read it like a tard.
Now lets say that rom is a good one and I should be good to go, what kernals or kernals should I get?
if the kernel I download I don't like is it easy to switch them out for another or do I have to reset and reroot the tablet and reinstall the roms and kernel? same goes for the rom as well, are they easy to swtich for another? can you have more then one rom on a tablet?
and last of all so say I install paranoid, and decide on a kernel and it all goes well, and is looking good, how do I download apps? do I need the google apps to do this?
super new to this and any help would be much appreciated!
AngelicKnights said:
So for Christmas I got a nexus 7 32GB tab, now ive been browsing the site for a couple weeks now reading about rooting, roms and kernals.
I saw the thread in general about one click rooting ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698 )
and have decided that is most likely the way ill go, how its shown in the first video.
Now for roms ive been thinking that paranoid android may be the best for me, as from what ive read and understood it doesn't have all those google apps the nexus comes with unless you install the google package? can anyone comfirm this? just want to make sure I didn't read it like a tard.
Now lets say that rom is a good one and I should be good to go, what kernals or kernals should I get?
if the kernel I download I don't like is it easy to switch them out for another or do I have to reset and reroot the tablet and reinstall the roms and kernel? same goes for the rom as well, are they easy to swtich for another? can you have more then one rom on a tablet?
and last of all so say I install paranoid, and decide on a kernel and it all goes well, and is looking good, how do I download apps? do I need the google apps to do this?
super new to this and any help would be much appreciated!
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A lot of good questions. Before you start flashing roms and/or kernels you should read as much of each specific thread as you can stand. You need to have an idea of what kind of problems if any users are experiencing, that way you can hopefully make an informed decision. I personally would never read just the first couple posts and start flashing. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some good roms and kernels out there and there is nothing wrong with experimenting. And yes, some roms do require gapps. And you do need at least some of the google apps (gapps) to be able to use the Play Store. They will tell you if they are not included in that specific thread.
As far as kernels go you need to be careful. Read, read, read! If you start playing with overclocking and voltages you can easily create problems for yourself. Do you know what to do if you get stuck in a boot loop? Or start getting random reboots? Not trying to talk you out of doing anything, hell I use custom kernels myself. it's just that it's not that hard to end up with a really nice paperweight! Sometimes going from one kernel to another you will need to dirty flash your rom or flash the system image to get a clean start with a new kernel. Good luck!
Firstly, use
Since the Nexus 7 is pure stock already, if you have no reason for a custom ROM, you probably don't need it. Just use Closed Framework with Gravitybox module, you can get some customization. Also consider candy shop with zip themed, you can customize your navigation buttons and stuff.
As for kernels, use either elementalx or franco kernels. Those are probably the two most popular.
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very much appreciate the quick replies.
Not really trying to mess with voltages or cpu stuff or overclocking. Really just wanted to make it a bit more customizable. which is what I thought the paranoid android ROM would be used for.
Wouldn't mind perhaps better battery life, which is what kernals are used for as well from my understanding?
Ive literally read every forum ( nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, android forum as well ), the top forum stickies and also gone through the pages in the sub forums and such for search of questions I may have.
But from what im gathering I think I just need to delete(is that possible or is it just disabling apps?) and maybe download some more aps for customization like clocks and weather widgets(not sure if that's exactly what a widget is), instead of all this rooting and unrooting stuff.
like when I click the circle with 6 dots in it to show me all the apps on my tablet, I honestly don't want half of them even on my tab
Bascially what I just want is a minimalistic screen where I don't have tuns of icons everywhere as I wont use 3/4th of it such as gmail, keep, people, play newsstand, hangouts, and apps that the stock tablet comes with.
edit: also any way without unrooting to install and snes emulator or play pc or ps1 games? digging some super Mario or diablo clone hack and slashj
AngelicKnights said:
very much appreciate the quick replies.
Not really trying to mess with voltages or cpu stuff or overclocking. Really just wanted to make it a bit more customizable. which is what I thought the paranoid android ROM would be used for.
Wouldn't mind perhaps better battery life, which is what kernals are used for as well from my understanding?
Ive literally read every forum ( nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, android forum as well ), the top forum stickies and also gone through the pages in the sub forums and such for search of questions I may have.
But from what im gathering I think I just need to delete(is that possible or is it just disabling apps?) and maybe download some more aps for customization like clocks and weather widgets(not sure if that's exactly what a widget is), instead of all this rooting and unrooting stuff.
like when I click the circle with 6 dots in it to show me all the apps on my tablet, I honestly don't want half of them even on my tab
Bascially what I just want is a minimalistic screen where I don't have tuns of icons everywhere as I wont use 3/4th of it such as gmail, keep, people, play newsstand, hangouts, and apps that the stock tablet comes with.
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You can disable most everything, I have a lot of the google apps disabled that I have no plans on using and all of the apps you mention can be disabled. There are things you can do when rooted to help battery life but there are also things you can do without being rooted. Like turning off wifi always scanning, or always on while sleeping. Adjusting sync. Disabling apps. If rooted you can use Greenify to hibernate apps without disabling them. The paid version of Greenify allows you to hibernate system apps but you have to have Xposed Framework installed to get the paid version to work and Xposed only works with dalvik and not art. Lots of options! Sorry, I haven't used any emulators. Do a search of the whole q/a thread, you'll find something I'm sure.