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Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
(irc help would be awesome still since I now have some help with main issue- I enter all the correct info into the app but it shows nothin. I've tried several to no avail. I appreciate the help) second I've ran into more pretentious ppl in these forums for Android then others no offense to the good guys but just my exp. It was brash to say that in this post tho. Thank you guys again for the ones willing.
That's because even the biggest idiot can work an iphone.
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Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
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Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
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Patience dude. I didn't catch it, but what exact kernel are you using, net has a lot of em, the one in the OP of myn's thread you mean? What recovery(and version of that recovery, some versions of clockwork floating around that have some bugs i think) did you use to flash the rom? what radio version and pri version do you currently have installed? Which ROM were you coming from, and did you do a full wipe(data, cache, davlik cache) before flashing it? I have never experienced anything like you are describing whilst using Myn's, his ROMs have been solid. Give a little more info and surely we can help you get running smoothly again.
thanks for the reply heres the details...myn's rls5, net toast havs more, ra_superson
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
Looks like we're running nearly the same setup, minus my ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery. I have attempted the stock kernel furnished in the Rom zip but since it didn't offer overclock I switched to net havs more smartass. I do the dalvik and cache wipe each time.
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Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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Not trying to be a smart ass but do you realize that by insulting us will not get you any help? Rhetorical question
From reading what you jus stated the obvious problem is you did not do a FULL WIPE as you should do when flashing between roms.
Also next time please be patient as those like myself who browse through this section to help impatient ppl like your self, do actually have a life outside of xda. Its been a big snow storm in the southeast so most like myself included are outside enjoying the snow!
DO A FULL WIPE THEN REPORT BACK!
Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
gotta do a full wipe if you are switching between roms
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also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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Ok. Well crap.... thanks guys since that is apparently my only option.
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also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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The kernel was included in the op and I've seen tags with same setup as mine.
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Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
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Sorry you feel that way but since i have had the hero, on every thread about a rom says wipe all! This must be a joke for someone as rude as yourself to come on here and disrespect those who are trying to help.
Next time you decide to flash a rom remember to do a full wipe because inside the data partition is files for the particular rom, if you dont wipe, the new files will just over lay but not delete the old one. This will cause conflicting issues within the files as the phone tries to do both at the same time.
Screen tearing and the "jigglies" as I like to call it have always come from kernels - in my experience. And just because someone might have the same set up as you, the way it affects your phone ccan be quite different as you are running different apps, different settings, etc.
First thing I would do if I were you is to freeze any kernel govenor you are using - no setcpu, no secreen off profile, no set on boot, no os monitor govenor, no nothing like that. You don't want want any of that going on when you flash a new rom or kernel.
I know you don't want to do a full data wipe so let's see if we cna get you going without that. I used to HATE doing data wipes, I don't mind so much now because I've learned that trobule shooting can frequently take longer than just doing a data wipe.
I would say #1 make sure you are using AMON RA. Power button-reboot-recovery. Wipe cache at least twice, wipe dalvik at least twice. Now JUST flash the rom (you've already said your radios are updated so you wont have a problem with this). Let the phone boot up and give it time to settle in. You wont have any screan tearing. Now you're running a completely stock Myn's rls5 rom. Check some stuff out, make sure your basic settings are good, make sure your 4g is not scanning, etc.
Make a nandroid of this and keep it.
Now start making changes if you'd like. Flash a different font, flash a different kernel, etc. But leave all the governors OFF until you have a kernel that you KNOW will run ok on your phone. For example - I can run 2 of ziggy's kernels but the others don't work for me. I can run a few of net's kernels, but many don't work for me.
So my basic suggestion is to make sure you get a stable, stock Myn's rls5 on your phone before you mod it. If you can't get that, then yes - you might want to wipe data. Doing a batch backup in Titanium is really easy and it makes restoring very easy as well. It's our own customizing that is time consuming because we are all probably very picky (and proud!) of our beautiful phones.
Thanks for the helpful info from ALL that posted. I understand the risk of the non entire wipe, nandroid is safe of original stock Rom but not of new one. After tinkering with setcpu I've gotten more consistent stability. I know I will reflash with an entire data wipe here soon to see results. Running ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery.
I've made list of check point when I test some new Roms and kernels. I have some more question on backing up user info from backed up apps but Im sure ill find it on here.
Now that my system is stable for the time being, some one mind help me setup irc? And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it. Ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery i like also.
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Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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You're welcome. I am late at getting back to this post, but yea. Definitely. As everyone else has suggested, you have to do a full wipe when changing ROMS. Only time you could get away with just wiping davlik cache and cache is when upgrading the same rom ( like from rls 3 to rls 4, and rls to rls 5), but even then, it doesn't always work. Full wipe is always recommended. I would also recommend downloading your apps one at a time from the market, and adding your mods one at a time, make sure everything is stable after each flash. Good luck.
QUOTE And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it QUOTE
If your phone is the newer hardware (late 003 or 004), you can only use the stock kernel, or a kernel based off stock for the camera to work. That would be htc #15. I believe Net's 4.3 kernels are based off of that. I am also pretty sure that Net explains that in his kernel thread in the development section.
Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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This isn't true, the problem is ALWAYS the kernel. I'm running myn rls5 and mikfroyo 4.3 with an SBC #15 v7 kernel (i'll edit post and add the link) and I have had zero issues except I can't download MMS messages on 4g on mikfroyo.
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Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
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Okay, this process will 100% work. It's the one I've been using since my lowly mytouch slide oh so many months ago.
*before you do this, make sure you have backups of your nandroid and your rsa keys. I'll edit post and give you links on how to back up your rsa keys*
RSA Key back-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900 ...since you're rooted you can go straight to the part where it says "if you're rooted do this.."
1. First you need to fix the sd card. Create a folder on your computer desktop and call it "my sd card". Plug your phone into the computer and select "disk drive". Next you're going to copy EVERYTHING from the sd card and place it in the folder on the desktop (and dude I mean everything! AS IS, DON'T CHANGE ANY NAMES). Then, you're going to unhook your phone, go to settings>sd and phone storage. Then you're going to format your sd card. Yes, do it, but make sure you have EVERYTHING backed up first. After that's done, plug your phone back in, select disk drive and copy everything from your "my sd card" folder on your computer and put it back onto your sd card.
*phew*
Okay now that the sd problem is fixed, here's how you fix the rest. You see, when you upgrade your PRI to 1.90 and your radio, etc etc you gotta update the kernel to a version that's 1.90 supported. I'll edit post and post a link to where you can find one OR you can just use the kernel that's included with myn's rom because it WILL WORK. *edit* the kernel I'm using has been taken down because of the witch hunt against SBC kernels. So for now, just stick with stock. It works just fine.
Anyway.
Steps to getting myn working perfectly.
*before starting, re-download myn rls5 in case the screen flickering was caused by a corrupted download*
1. Download Titanium Back-up from the market. Back up all the apps you want to keep (basically, anything you downloaded from the market as you'll get facebook, sense widgets, etc back). You can do this while you re-download the rom.
2. Make a nandroid back-up in case something goes seriously wrong. A rom that flickers your screen is better than a brick.
3. Once that back-up is done, reboot into recovery. Once there, you're going to WIPE EVERYTHING. Full data, cache and dalvik wipe. Yes, do it. There is no other option.
3. Flash myn's rom. Let it go all the way through. Do NOT flash a new kernel until you've found one that's 3.70 compatible and works with PRI 1.90. Myn rls5 is designed to work with the newest updates (which means a #15 kernel, like the one that came stock).
4. Reboot. If the screen is still flickering, then at this point it's a hardware problem. Flash back to stock, unroot and go get a new one. If it works fine, re-download titanium back-up from the market and restore all your apps. From there it's just putting your widgets back on your home screen.
From here, you can search the forums for a kernel that works with the newest updates. If you read them, they'll tell you what they're compatible with. Remember do NOT use an AOSP kernel with a SENSE rom, that's just spells IDIOCY. Until you find a kernel that works, stick with the one that came with the rom because everyone knows that one works.
I hope this helps. As for the IRC chat, not all the experts are on all the time. If no one is online that can help when you get one, try getting a few hours earlier or a few hours later.
I have an Incredible that I have rooted with unrevoked. I rooted it after I received the ota update with froyo and have done nothing else. I have yet to put a rom on since I really don't want to download and install all of my apps again and tweak my preferences. All that being said I want to do some things to customize my phone and have read about other ways to customize with roms, what things am I able to do? Here are some of the things I would love to be able to do to my phone:
Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something?
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.
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Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
This is easiest to do using CM6/7 and applying a theme pack
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something
> Not many customizations have been made to the HTC lockscreen. You can find a few metamorphs for VANILLA lockscreens to make it look like the Droid 2 / R2D2
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
> I use the Galaxy S theme for CM6, this did a pretty good job of the blue theme
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.
Minimalistic Text Widget & Launcher Pro are your friends
I also LOVE sonnysekhon's themes for CM7.
Good luck, have fun, nandroid, rinse, repeat
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Forgot, you aren't deodexed.... you really need a custom rom to be able to theme. If you want a stock sense you should look into virtuous... its pretty much stock, looks stock but is still custom. Then you can flash themes on it.....
A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?
Try flashing virtuous without wiping data, just wipe caches. like I said before, that's pretty much a stock sense rom. You should be ok and not need to re set up your stuff. If not, restore nandroid.
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A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?
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If your main concern about trying out ROM's is having to re-download all of your apps, I have an app for that
Titanium Backup
Super simple. It lets you back up the apps you downloaded. Here's what you do:
1. Download Titanium Backup from the market
2. Individually back up your apps using Ti - WARNING! DO NOT BACK UP SYSTEM DATA. Also don't back up Gmail/Maps/anything stock that's going to be in the new ROM. Titanium shows items in red that you shouldn't back up, so it shouldn't be too hard. Rule of thumb: if you downloaded it yourself, back it up, if not, stay away
3. Download your new ROM and put it on your SD card
4. Wipe
5. Flash new ROM - FYI CM7 stands for "CyanogenMod 7" which is a really popular AOSP ROM
6. Sign in with your Google account/Facebook/etc.
7. Download Titanium backup > Batch > Restore apps
You're going to have to click "Install" for every app you backed up if you've got the free version, the paid one does it for you.
You're also going to have to do your other tweaks (ringtones, autorotate, etc.) manually as Ti can't do that, but I think it's well worth the initial time investment to get a better/faster/more customizable ROM
TL;DR: Titanium Backup backs up your apps. If you want customization, you need a new ROM. If you want Sense, SkyRaider 3.5 or Incredibly Re-engineered 2.3.1 is best for customization (both have blue themes available), but Virtuous gives you the most "stock" feel. If you want AOSP, can't do much better than CyanogenMod7 for theming
EDIT: In response to your original post...
Colored Notifications are only going to work on a deodexed ROM (aka Virtuous/SkyRaider) - there is a rooted/deodexed stock ROM floating around that rmk40 posted (he also created Virtuous)
WidgetLocker is a paid app that can change your lockscreen - and here's a really popular app on modding the stock options it gives to your liking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825553
Cyanogenmod7 or CM7 is basically one of the most badass roms available, it's not only the newest of the cyanogenmod series but it's also built off of android 2.3 Gingerbread, so no having to wait for the actual legit GB release like everyone that's not rooted. If you want to see it in action look for it on youtube, otherwise to learn about it go to cyanogenmod.com or cyanogenmod.com/forums, everyone there is very helpful. I am running the RC1 of CM7, there is a few nightly builds after that so far but I'm just gonna stick with the first release canidate until RC2 hits.
I'd say the main reason I rooted was to try out different ROMs. I know you said you want to leave all your preferences and apps untouched, but I quickly got over that. I got all my contacts organized in GMail so that they sync every time I flash a new ROM. Each ROM has different preferences to play around with. For apps, I realized what I needed to do was just choose a few really important ones so I wouldn't have to spend all day setting up my apps for each new ROM.
I'd recommend doing a nandroid backup in recovery and trying out a few different ROMs. Try MIUI and Cyanogenmod 7, they're great. When your done you can restore your nandroid backup and get back to exactly where you are right now.
If you decide you want to stick with a new ROM, you can use Titanium Backup to restore your important app data, like someone else pointed out.
Once you're rooted there is a whole new world of opportunities...have fun!
Ok you guy's have got me very interested now. I think I want to move forward now! That cm7 looks great and I'd love to move to gingerbread. I was curious since this is the nightly beta release if I could later get the updates without flashing a rom again and restoring my apps. I had also heard I would have to flash more files like the radio after the install too. I'll have to read more on this.
Use Titanium Backup for all your apps and their data where you can put them all back on your new ROM.
You can do a full backup via Clock Works so if you don't like the new ROM or don't want to deal with any more of this new stuff then you can revert exactly to where you were before.
> For the lockscreen you can uninstall the lockscreen and then the default android one will be there.
To change the main look and feel you can try Launcher Pro from the market. It's pretty sweet. I use it with my custom ROM just because I love the cube transition and how you can hide a lot of the useless apps in the app drawer.
If you dont want to load a custom rom but would like to just theme there is a deodexed completely stock rom around here that will give you that option. All you need to do is flash in recovery and since you are going from a stock rom to another stock rom you do not need to wipe/clear anything so all of your apps and settings will remain intact.
you can consider just flashing skyraiders 3.5 and then not doing anything fancy. It's very close to stock with little improvements around so you might find that to be a good start.
Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions guys. For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it. I am looking at LauncherPro now and thinking of checking out ADW. I've watched some different videos on both, which do you guys think is better?
I also did one mod I'm happy about, I changed the market app to the themed "Black Market" with the different icon and appearance. I think I am going to look for some transparent apps next to do something different. I with there was more I could do with my stock rom, it sucks not being deodexed. Anything else worthwhile to look into?
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For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it.
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CM7 is incredibly stable for only being at RC1....
I use it everyday now (Occasionally flashing something for fun) and I have NO problems with it.
If you flash CM7 RC1 you won't regret it. Just my two cents.
How long would anyone guess the final release will take? I think I am just going to keep an eye on it's progress and eventually switch. While it may be working well now I just feel uneasy about flashing that rom now, even though I can restore a backup. I'm having some fun now customizing my phone with Launcher Pro. I certainly like the customizable dock over the Sense dock. I'm trying to search for mods I can do with my non-deodexed rom but not too much luck. Thanks for the thoughts everyone!
I used to be like you so just as some insight from someone who remembers being where you are. Don't worry about cm7 rc1 or the newest nighlys, they're very stable. Although for a stock sense experience, one fun rom I've found to be fun and really have me flashing back and forth with cm7 is incredibly re engineered. With Chad's kernel its super fast, battery efficient and stable.
So ymmv but cm rc's are generally pretty stable. And incredibly re engineered is also a great choice
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ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!
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ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!
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Check out the rooting guide here http://dimedroid.blogspot.com, some great info on backup & restore procedures
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I am wanting to put a new ROM on my new EVO. I got it from sprint the other day and want all its bloatware off of it. I am new to this but I have dont similar things in the past.
Reasons I want to ROOT and flash:
Get rid of sprint bloatware
Unlock Wi-Fi tethering ability
Get best and most optimized version of android
Now here is where I need your help...I dont really know which rom to get. Is the 2.3 Gingerbread ROM work with no bugs? I dont want to be a buggy beta tester I want something solid but something better than what I have.
Here is my phone information:
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
htc-kernel(at)and18-2#15
Build Number
3.70.651.1 CL294884
Software Number
3.70.651.1
Browser Version
Webkit 3.1
PRI version
1.90_03
PRL Version 6067
I dont know what some of it means but if you could tell me what I should update and give me a little information on how to do it. I dont know what baseband/radio does. I dont have the latest version should I get it?
Mainly I want help on choosing a ROM to flash to. Gingerbread would be nice but if there isnt a stable version just link me to a better ROM of 2.2 to flash to. I just want rid of all this bloatware and I want to be able to theater.
Thanks for the help =)
try vaelpak 3.2, i've been using it for a while now and love it its like a mix of sense roms with asop roms but with sense base so everything works flawlesly
If your looking for a good rom that is stable and everything works. I would strongly recommend Vaelpak 3.2 RC2. I have been running this rom for about 2 months straight, well it started as RC1. Everything works and will do what you asked above. The software is still 2.2, mainly because Jim is waiting for the final versos of 3.2 to be released. Yes I have had a few minor issues, more like minor annoyance. But when one comes up I get on there forum and Jim always seems to be able to fix the issue.
Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo
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I came from myn's and just didn't like it
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Ok so just to make things clear with me before I do any of this all I have to do is unlock my phone for root access, backup my current phone image, and flash to this one right?
Do I have to update radio or anything first?
Also I will be able to get back to my phones default out of the box setting if I need to right?
Any other ROM recomendations or is VaelPak where it is at? How is CyanogenMod-7? It runs 2.3....
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I just updated to cynogen mod
7.0.3.1 using rom manager.... its great but I can't use my gmail app or my market ....and my contacts are gone....only the Facebook contacts are there....wat am I supposed to do.....really need help
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Go to the dev section and find the CM thread. You need to flash the "gapps" (google apps) in order to get the google mail, market, re-sync contacts,etc. Not sure if you can do that thru rom manager, I've never used it.
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There are many, many roms out there. It just depends on the what you are looking for. As for me I like having a rom that is not only stable for everyday use, but also having everything work properly. Not all roms are created equal and will vary in features. Like I stated before I love using vaelpak, but other people will swear by different roms. As for cm7, I have used it. But it just wasn't for me and screwed with my phone. As for the rooting process I would recommend Unrevoked. Very quick and simple. Also always do backups, even after rooting your phone. The other nice thing about Vaelpak over cm7, not trying to bash cm7 or its developers. But with Vaelpak there is a thing under settings were all the new radios and kernals are listed. Someone please correct me if i am wrong, with cm7 you have to flash back to a "sense" rom to update the radios. And if you cant tell I am very bias with Vaelpak, I have tryed others but they simply dont compair.
jayharper08 said:
Go to the dev section and find the CM thread. You need to flash the "gapps" (google apps) in order to get the google mail, market, re-sync contacts,etc. Not sure if you can do that thru rom manager, I've never used it.
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If I recall you need to go into recovery and flash it
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If I recall you need to go into recovery and flash it
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Yea I believe so. Hope he knows how to do that. Lol.
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What exactly is the radios? I think I have the second to latest version (see above)
What does an updated radio do?
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What exactly is the radios? I think I have the second to latest version (see above)
What does an updated radio do?
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Chances are if you just got the phone it should be current or you can go under settings> system updates and update your firmware(wouldn't recommend if you plan on rooting),profile, PRL ans the software. The radios are what allows you to have service. Once again someone correct me if I am wrong.
With certain Roms (Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo comes to mind) you will need to make sure you have the latest everything. There's a link in the thread for the rom to a flashable zip - you flash this through recovery as you would a rom, kernel, etc. Read the first few posts in the thread for a rom you're going to flash. You don't want to miss something.
I flash everything manually through recovery (Amon Ra specifically, but which you use is entirely your preference) to minimize error & ensure everything that I want to wipe is wiped - properly. If you feel more comfortable with Rom Manager, there's nothing wrong with that. I recommend at least learning how to do it all manually in case you're ever in a bind.
As far as roms go - try them out... all of them. Or at least the ones that fit your needs. For stable and close to stock I recommend Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo. Warm Z is also nice, with a newer version of Sense. Vaelpak is a really great rom if you want certain Sense apps (like the dialer) but without the Sense launcher/additional useless crap. CM7 is a great 2.3 AOSP rom. It's actually stable now, but you might need to do the GPS fix if you have issues with the GPS. MIUI is another 2.3 AOSP rom, it's very polished but no 4G. It's a lot different than CM7 or any other rom. There are some "GingerSense" roms out now, but from what I've heard they're not stable at this point.
Three random tips:
1) Do not pull the battery during a radio update. After you reboot you'll see a black screen with a downwards arrow or an Android in a box. Just wait for it to finish. If you freak and pull the battery, your phone is most likely dead forever.
2) Buy Titanium Backup Pro and Root Explorer. Two most useful apps I've paid for. With either of these apps you can remove any unwanted apps (or with TB, freeze them). So if a rom comes with apps you don't want, you can easily get rid of them.
3) Don't base anything on quadrant scores, they're pretty much useless. Even if a rom puts you below average, ignore it as long as you're happy with your phone.
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Ok so just to make things clear with me before I do any of this all I have to do is unlock my phone for root access, backup my current phone image, and flash to this one right?
Do I have to update radio or anything first?
Also I will be able to get back to my phones default out of the box setting if I need to right?
Any other ROM recomendations or is VaelPak where it is at? How is CyanogenMod-7? It runs 2.3....
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Cyanogen has really disappointed me. I was running mod 6 on my hero for a long time with no problems, then mod 6 on my evo with no problems. I installed mod 7 on my evo about a month ago and it has already basically crapped out on me twice. Just becoming really slow and everything force closing or just giving me a black screen when I try to open the app. Then I restore it back to right when I flashed it, and it works great for a couple weeks. I would suggest trying the vaelpak 3.2. I have no idea how it is, but I am gonna flash it right now and see how it is during the day tomorrow.
Try end of days or destroyer v2 it
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My droid incredible has been having some major problems with any GPS-related functions when flashing to custom ROMs. I've tried CM7, OMGB, OMFGB, and MIUI so far. The GPS worked great in OMGB and OMFGB after updating the radio, but when I tried this on CM7 and MIUI (both of which seemed much smoother and refined), no dice. I've also tried completely reflashing the rom (yes, I did wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache), uninstalling WeatherBug, flashing 4 different radios (4.08, 11.19, 5.02 and 5.06) as well as reflashing the original stock 7.28 radio, and even tried that fix through a sense rom where you dial some ## number and then enter some MSL number. That didn't seem to work for me, the call didn't even go through. No matter what I try, I can't seem to get GPS to work on either of the custom ROMs that I love. Major bummer, because I used GPS daily on stock 2.2 Froyo before rooting my phone. I'd appreciate any help at all on this issue and I really would like to get my phone's GPS functionality working again.
P.S. - I've already spent countless hours searching XDA as well as other forums about this issue, and the above list of troubleshooting steps is what I've come up with so far. Please don't lecture me with a useless response such as "Use the search function" as I have already done so. Thanks
Seems like you've done your research. Have you tried an app titled "GPS Status & Toolbox" in the market?
Just tried that app but no luck. I tried clearing the current GPS settings and then downloading new ones. Anything I'm missing?
I only saw mention of AOSP roms, did you try using *228 on a Sense rom? I'm not sure if there's a difference performing this on an AOSP rom but I recall folks saying to do that on a Sense rom. As you stated, GPS worked on two roms just not MIUI or CM7, which is weird. Have you returned to or are you currently using OMGB and OMFGB and retained your ability to use gps? I'm trying to rule out this being a hardware issue since you noted GPS failed on two of four roms.
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I only saw mention of AOSP roms, did you try using *228 on a Sense rom? I'm not sure if there's a difference performing this on an AOSP rom but I recall folks saying to do that on a Sense rom. As you stated, GPS worked on two roms just not MIUI or CM7, which is weird. Have you returned to or are you currently using OMGB and OMFGB and retained your ability to use gps? I'm trying to rule out this being a hardware issue since you noted GPS failed on two of four roms.
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Just reflashed OMFGB, and now GPS DOESN'T work?!?!?!?!? I've tried everything all over again, format SD card, reflash radio, I'm clueless.
Do you recall performing anything on your phone that may have messed with the gps? Do you restore system data at all with something like Titanium? My only other suggestion is to flash rmk40's gingerbread leak found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087077
The reason I'm suggesting is due to the 3G drop issue that people have fixed by flashing this. I'm doubtful, but maybe this could resolve the gps issue as well? Aside from this, I'm hoping another XDA member has suggestions/solution as it looks like hardware failure if you do not recall anything odd that caused the gps issues.
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Do you recall performing anything on your phone that may have messed with the gps? Do you restore system data at all with something like Titanium? My only other suggestion is to flash rmk40's gingerbread leak found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087077
The reason I'm suggesting is due to the 3G drop issue that people have fixed by flashing this. I'm doubtful, but maybe this could resolve the gps issue as well? Aside from this, I'm hoping another XDA member has suggestions/solution as it looks like hardware failure if you do not recall anything odd that caused the gps issues.
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I do use Titanium to restore system data. I flashed from CM7 to MIUI and did a batch restore of EVERYTHING, and got a FC on android.process.acore. I reflashed MIUI and the FC problem was fixed, but GPS still did not work. After this I flashed back to OMFGB and even complete stock 2.2 with sense, still no GPS. I will try your suggestion above, however I'm doubting this is a hardware problem as my GPS worked fine before rooting my phone. I'm guessing I screwed up something to do with the software, I just don't know enough about the subject to make an educated guess about what I screwed up. Anyway, I'll try flashing that gingerbread leak and let you know. Thanks for all the help so far guys.
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Do you recall performing anything on your phone that may have messed with the gps? Do you restore system data at all with something like Titanium? My only other suggestion is to flash rmk40's gingerbread leak found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087077
The reason I'm suggesting is due to the 3G drop issue that people have fixed by flashing this. I'm doubtful, but maybe this could resolve the gps issue as well? Aside from this, I'm hoping another XDA member has suggestions/solution as it looks like hardware failure if you do not recall anything odd that caused the gps issues.
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No luck. GPS still is not working.
Aight, well one thing is you are not supposed to backup/restore system data. Idk how deep it affects rom flashes but that is very likely the source of your gps issues. Have you flashed a rom without restoring anything and checking gps? With titanium you are supposed to backup user data. If you ask many dev's, they strongly discourage backing up system data.
1) flash a rom (step 2 is an option within Settings in gingerbread roms, idk about froyo roms)
2) if you want to completely start from scratch Cancel google restore by NOT signing into your google account upon initial setup. Go into Settings>Privacy and uncheck "Back up my settings" as well as "Automatic Restore."
3) sign into your google account and let it sync
4) test your gps
If you always restore system data through Titanium each time you flashed a rom PRIOR TO testing gps, this may have resulted in your problems.
I'd have to agree with slimsnoop, my first flash I made the mistake of restoring system data and everything went crazy wifi freaked, gps, repeated fc's. I'd try flashing then try gps, if its working then i'd restore apps one by one and see if any interfere with the gps. If that doesn't work then i'd go stock, master clear/factory reset and see how that goes make sure EVERYTHING important is backed up to your pc cause it will wipe it clean, if none of that works then i'd leave it stock and take it in for replacement or repair if possible.
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Aight, well one thing is you are not supposed to backup/restore system data. Idk how deep it affects rom flashes but that is very likely the source of your gps issues. Have you flashed a rom without restoring anything and checking gps? With titanium you are supposed to backup user data. If you ask many dev's, they strongly discourage backing up system data.
1) flash a rom (step 2 is an option within Settings in gingerbread roms, idk about froyo roms)
2) if you want to completely start from scratch Cancel google restore by NOT signing into your google account upon initial setup. Go into Settings>Privacy and uncheck "Back up my settings" as well as "Automatic Restore."
3) sign into your google account and let it sync
4) test your gps
If you always restore system data through Titanium each time you flashed a rom PRIOR TO testing gps, this may have resulted in your problems.
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Tried that on Cyanogenmod just now, and I unchecked "backup my settings", however "automatic restore" was checked and greyed out, I couldn't do anything about that one. Also, I had to sign into my google account in order to download maps so I could test it. So if google sync is interfering with the GPS I'm not able to stop it from syncing on a custom rom. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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I'd have to agree with slimsnoop, my first flash I made the mistake of restoring system data and everything went crazy wifi freaked, gps, repeated fc's. I'd try flashing then try gps, if its working then i'd restore apps one by one and see if any interfere with the gps. If that doesn't work then i'd go stock, master clear/factory reset and see how that goes make sure EVERYTHING important is backed up to your pc cause it will wipe it clean, if none of that works then i'd leave it stock and take it in for replacement or repair if possible.
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I've actually already tried a complete restore back to 2.2, as well as a factory reset once I"m already at stock configuration. I'll try that again tonight if I get a chance. Is there anything you can recommend when retsoring back to factory configuration? any hidden settings I'm missing that have something to do with the radio or GPS or wireless settings?
No the only settings I've found for gps is location for pics and stuff, besides a factory reset should of changed it all back anyways, i'd say its a hardware issue but seeing as two roms were working at one point and not now it kind of seems that maybe something isn't getting erased with factory reset thats catching you up, I'm not sure what the code is for yours but i'd try the actual master clear code. I read somewhere theres a difference between factory reset and master clear not sure if there really is though, and if you can find a secret code list there might be something where you can change the gps sat pool. When I get home tonight I'll do some digging and see if I can't find something to get this working for you
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When you install cyanogen, to test maps without signing in, download the gapps package from the cyanogen thread on this forum or on cyanogenmod forums
Sorry, can't provide links. On cell
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When you install cyanogen, to test maps without signing in, download the gapps package from the cyanogen thread on this forum or on cyanogenmod forums
Sorry, can't provide links. On cell
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I do use the gapps package. It's also available on rom manager, however when you flash the gapps package it's basically multiple market links that take you to the apps of your choice so you can download the latest version. This requires you to sign into the market, which requires you to sign in to your google account =/
The only other solution I could think of is finding an .apk of the maps app, and doing that manually. I can't imagine that the google sign in is what is interfering with the GPS though. I'll try Jsmokey's suggestion and search for a master reset code, maybe that'll do the trick for me. If i'm flashing to the stock config the maps app is already included anyway. Thanks for the idea though.
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No the only settings I've found for gps is location for pics and stuff, besides a factory reset should of changed it all back anyways, i'd say its a hardware issue but seeing as two roms were working at one point and not now it kind of seems that maybe something isn't getting erased with factory reset thats catching you up, I'm not sure what the code is for yours but i'd try the actual master clear code. I read somewhere theres a difference between factory reset and master clear not sure if there really is though, and if you can find a secret code list there might be something where you can change the gps sat pool. When I get home tonight I'll do some digging and see if I can't find something to get this working for you
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No luck finding a "master clear code" on Google, but I did find that there is an option for factory reset in the hboot menu. Is this what you're referring to possibly? Also, is this different from the factory reset option in settings>storage while the phone is on?
UPDATE: Just called verizon, apparently they are out of stock of dinc's and are sending me a dinc 2! =D
Anyway, what steps can I take in the future to make sure I DON'T screw up my phone the next time in the first place (besides NOT restoring system data in Titanium)?
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No luck finding a "master clear code" on Google, but I did find that there is an option for factory reset in the hboot menu. Is this what you're referring to possibly? Also, is this different from the factory reset option in settings>storage while the phone is on?
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Yeah I wasn't sure if it had a master clear or not some phones do some don't, I can't remember if what you're talking about is different from regular factory reset or not its been a while since I played around with a droid inc. Glad to hear you're getting a replacement and an upgrade at that. Basically do searches for what you can back up and back up everything system related you possibly can, you can't be too prepared when disaster strikes.
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Sounds great. I'll probably do a nandroid backup at absolute stock and make sure it's working correctly. Thanks to everybody for all the help.
-snoshreddax21
Do you mean if you call them for a warranty replacement they will send you a dinc2?
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Glad to be of service! Hopefully things work out on the DInc2 for you.
As far as warranty replacements go, the availability of DInc vs. DInc 2 depends on what they have in stock in your area. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if more folks received DInc 2's as replacements.
All of a sudden, across different ROMS and even in stock/rooted, even with Google voice, my phone isn't receiving any texts. No notifications, nothing. I can see them if I open G-Voice in the inbox, but not if I open Messaging or Go SMS, but this started before I even installed G-Voice. Before that, nothing.
It started yesterday. Anyone else having this problem?? Is Sprint having issues or something?
Haven't had any of those problems and I'm in sprint too
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I just reflashed my radios and now I'm nandroiding back to stock/rooted to update Profile and PRL....
Hope that does it
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Looks like reflashing the radios worked. AS soon as I got booted into stock, a ton of messages started coming in
ok, so how does one go about reflashing the radios? did you do that and follow through with the nandroiding back to stock like you said?
I'm sorry. I have an HTC Evo 4g, rooted, originally had CM7 on it when the sms issue happened. took it to my friend and he put CM9 on it to see if going to a newer ROM would help. it didn't. he stated that I would probably have to go back to stock, reinstall sms from there (?) and then go back to a rom if I wanted.
I have been googling the issue and found this: forum.xda-developers. com/showthread.php?p=34337380#post34337380 which had directions to unroot and go back to Froyo, then reroot and reinstall the CM7 ROM. If I don't have to go through all that I would love not to, and this thread is much newer than that one.
also: I don't think I have a copy of my original HTC Sense or whatever base setup. not sure if the guy who rooted my phone for me saved one... also, don't think I have a copy of the CM7 I had installed. I do however have a .exe of the CM9 I currently have. Honestly, I like some of the settings on CM7 more than the CM9 I have, but oh well, I guess.
Anyway, sorry to ramble. I have had this issue not receiving text messages randomly since about November 9th. I am on a Sprint Evo but it is flashed to Cricket.
Thank you for the help! I am learning a lot as I have been looking all this up, but more info would definitely help.
-Amber.
EDIT: Ok, updated the Radios with CM-EVO_Radio-2.15.00.12.19_PRI-2.33_WiMax_NV.zip. I did not nandroid into the stock rom though because I don't think I have it saved. I've found a few apparently-stock roms on xda but I read something else that said what looks like stock could just be another rom and not have all of the original settings refreshed. I am pretty sure that when I had CM9 put on my phone to try to fix the sms issue they did a clean wipe before they installed it, but I could be wrong.
I still have not received any of my still-missing texts. =( I can still send which makes me think it isn't necessarily that I'm flashed to cricket... any other help would be most welcome. thanks.
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I just reflashed my radios and now I'm nandroiding back to stock/rooted to update Profile and PRL....
Hope that does it
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xDisso1vex said:
ok, so how does one go about reflashing the radios? did you do that and follow through with the nandroiding back to stock like you said?
I'm sorry. I have an HTC Evo 4g, rooted, originally had CM7 on it when the sms issue happened. took it to my friend and he put CM9 on it to see if going to a newer ROM would help. it didn't. he stated that I would probably have to go back to stock, reinstall sms from there (?) and then go back to a rom if I wanted.
I have been googling the issue and found this: forum.xda-developers. com/showthread.php?p=34337380#post34337380 which had directions to unroot and go back to Froyo, then reroot and reinstall the CM7 ROM. If I don't have to go through all that I would love not to, and this thread is much newer than that one.
also: I don't think I have a copy of my original HTC Sense or whatever base setup. not sure if the guy who rooted my phone for me saved one... also, don't think I have a copy of the CM7 I had installed. I do however have a .exe of the CM9 I currently have. Honestly, I like some of the settings on CM7 more than the CM9 I have, but oh well, I guess.
Anyway, sorry to ramble. I have had this issue not receiving text messages randomly since about November 9th. I am on a Sprint Evo but it is flashed to Cricket.
Thank you for the help! I am learning a lot as I have been looking all this up, but more info would definitely help.
-Amber.
EDIT: Ok, updated the Radios with CM-EVO_Radio-2.15.00.12.19_PRI-2.33_WiMax_NV.zip. I did not nandroid into the stock rom though because I don't think I have it saved. I've found a few apparently-stock roms on xda but I read something else that said what looks like stock could just be another rom and not have all of the original settings refreshed. I am pretty sure that when I had CM9 put on my phone to try to fix the sms issue they did a clean wipe before they installed it, but I could be wrong.
I still have not received any of my still-missing texts. =( I can still send which makes me think it isn't necessarily that I'm flashed to cricket... any other help would be most welcome. thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200261..that thread should help you. It's stock rooted gingerbread with radio updates. Sorry if thats not what your looking for.
Are there in apps in existence that will restore a phone's proper mms/sms setting after being flashed?