I heard that the incredible has an improved multi touch screen at the hardware level [compared to the N1], and was wondering if the Desire has the same physical screen as the N1?
Sorry I really really did search everywhere, if its been answered before.
Thanks.
Yes the Nexus and Desire share the same screen and with it the same 'problems'. I can understand why some find this a problem, but the I doubt many will actually use 'multitouch'. Dual touch should be enough, which works for pinch n zoom. Other than that, I don't use it. Unless you are an airhockey 'enthusiast'. Of course if I could actually choose between the two, I would obviously go for the better one. The Incredible and forward, all devices will probably have better screens than the N1 and Desire.
djind said:
I doubt many will actually use 'multitouch'. Dual touch should be enough, which works for pinch n zoom. Other than that, I don't use it. Unless you are an airhockey 'enthusiast'.
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djind,
Do you know if there are any Android application that has been designed using multitouch yet besides the games?
For example, is there any webbrowser that users two finger swipe left, two finger swipe right, two finger swipe up, two finger swipe down, three fingers touch, etc to effect different web browsing actions? Or, touch music players that fully utilise single/double/triple finger swipes, three finger touch, etc to perform everything from changing volume, chaging songs, changing playlist, etc without having to look at the screen for buttons while driving?
With a class full of iphone addicted gamers, I can see where full on multi touch is an advantage. Theres just so much game developers can do with the full screen avalible, BUT, we're going to see even more fragmentation on the marketplace now.
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djind,
Do you know if there are any Android application that has been designed using multitouch yet besides the games?
For example, is there any webbrowser that users two finger swipe left, two finger swipe right, two finger swipe up, two finger swipe down, three fingers touch, etc to effect different web browsing actions? Or, touch music players that fully utilise single/double/triple finger swipes, three finger touch, etc to perform everything from changing volume, chaging songs, changing playlist, etc without having to look at the screen for buttons while driving?
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No I do not, but there must be a reason for that.
Don't get me wrong, I like multitouch, it adds a lot to devices in general, but let's not forget that we have a mobile phone in our hands, or usually just on hand. Priority number one should be enabling the phone to use single handed the best possible way.
You can't actually use multitouch gestures and not look at the screen, what are we talking about here? If your phone does not have a volume rocker on the side, don't use it as an mp3 player (I must say I like the Creative X-Fi2, but you shouldn't have to wake the screen in order to change volume, bad Creative, bad!)
Multitouch gestures generally use more effort to perform compared to hardware button or a single button. One finger swipe is still number one in my book. You would have to give an exact multi-swipe from top to bottom in order to get the volume settings just right, or click on the volume rocker while your eyes are on the road.
Multitouch, like I said, adds a new dimension to the whole experience, but using 3 fingers on the screen covers most if not more than the whole screen. I don't see any ease of use in that. Yes you can use it for a shortcut, but actually performing a 3 finger action is what I think puts me off. A way to browse would indeed be two finger flick for next and previous page, or just touching the left/right key on the browser screen. It is all about ease of use.
The multitouch gestures are cool, but someitimes or usually unnecessary. Having all options and functions is fine, but I think most of the time anyone uses them is after: "Look what my phone can do."
At the end of the line, it's all about usefulness and necessity.
I don't play games and such on my phone (not a lot anyway), probably why I have these views. But somehow they still kind of make sense to me.
Palm has done a great job on the Pre and Pre Plus. The gesture area is the best implementation of ease of use and productivity I have seen so far, combined with the cards view option. I am definately getting a Pre Plus once they get here. It looks like it just works.
Too bad the HTC takeover is out of the question now. I would have loved to see what the great devs at xda could do with WebOs and their creativity and user feedback.
edit: Holy SHhh this reply is huge.. my apologies for this. I have to do some work for school, probably why I wrote this long reply..
i dont think ive ever encountered an iphone app that requires the use of more than 2 fingers (though it can detect up to 11 i think)
though the issue is that the desire can't even do 2 fingers well enough to go beyond pinching actions, anything like the hundreds of iphone games that require 2 fingers just won't work properly. which isn't much of an issue now as these kind of games dont really exist for android, but it may put devs off creating anything like this in the future.
One thing that I think proper multi-touch helps with is the onscreen keyboard.
Personally I think that typing on the virtual keyboard on the Desire is sh*t compared to the iPhone (which supports proper multi-touch). Perhaps I will have to adjust my typing style, but I just cannot type quickly on the Desire, whereas I can on the iPhone, also with fewer mistakes.
If I had the choice and the Incredible was out here in the UK now, then I would get it, no question (despite it's "looks that only a mother could love", and no hard keys for Home/Search/BackMenu).
OP:
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
N1 & Desire have Clearpad 2000, Incredible has Clearpad 3000.
setspeed said:
One thing that I think proper multi-touch helps with is the onscreen keyboard.
Personally I think that typing on the virtual keyboard on the Desire is sh*t compared to the iPhone (which supports proper multi-touch). Perhaps I will have to adjust my typing style, but I just cannot type quickly on the Desire, whereas I can on the iPhone, also with fewer mistakes.
If I had the choice and the Incredible was out here in the UK now, then I would get it, no question (despite it's "looks that only a mother could love", and no hard keys for Home/Search/BackMenu).
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How so?
Unless you somehow can use more than two fingers to type on a 3.7" screen then there should be no difference.
I agree about the iphone keyboard. It is perhaps because I was used to it, although I made the necessary mistakes, but I think mostly it has to do with the lay-out of the keyboard. It looks somehow as if it has more space between the key's which make it easier to actually hit the key you are focussing on. That's the feeling I get when I compare the Desire in my hands and the iPhone in my thoughts. But typing on the desire is fine.
Still gonna get the Pre Plus with portrait keyboard!
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OP:
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
N1 & Desire have Clearpad 2000, Incredible has Clearpad 3000.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/confirmed-droid-incredibles-multitouch-support-is-better-than/
Nope.
yeah typing on the desire is a lot harder for me than the iphone too, tho i don't think this is a multitouch issue.
the iphone keyboard guesses what key your tying to press, so even if you hit the one next to it the one you intended to hit comes up, im not sure if the desire keyboard does this.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/confirmed-droid-incredibles-multitouch-support-is-better-than/
Nope.
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I stand corrected!
In reference to the keyboard issue - I've barely used iPhones, but I was typing quickly and error free in 60 sec. On the Desire it seems to register a single touch as more than one touch sometimes, causing a lot of error correction to have to go on, slowing me down as I have to pick the correct word from the list.
Hello everyone!
Just to confirm and prove it with a video, the Desire has the same issue as the N1
youtube.com/watch?v=MbFj8SV1XEE
Sorry for the link, but I am new and my account is not verified
Desire has a real multitouch, it's just that the Y axes is reversed when you use 2 fingers, this will be corrected in Froyo.
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Desire has a real multitouch, it's just that the Y axes is reversed when you use 2 fingers, this will be corrected in Froyo.
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Do you have a source for this information?
Wishmaster83 said:
Do you have a source for this information?
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Here it is: http://telephonino.altervista.org/en/google-rilascera-a-breve-android-2-2-“froyo”/
I've read it on others websites.
It's obvious, when you watch videos of this bug or play yourself at AirHockey, you can state that it's not messy/random, just reversed.
In fact it's a software issue so it can be easily corrected but as it may be in the driver which is not accessible for devs, we have to wait for an official update from HTC except if someone can dump N1's driver if it has been corrected with the last update, could someone test multitouch on the N1 as it has the same bug under 2.1 ?
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Desire has a real multitouch, it's just that the Y axes is reversed when you use 2 fingers, this will be corrected in Froyo.
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Froyo will not fix multitouch bug.. confirmed by froyo users on Nexus One.
You know I tried that app on the market to test multi touch and I could move 4 fingers/points at once... so I'm confused.
ranwej said:
Froyo will not fix multitouch bug.. confirmed by froyo users on Nexus One.
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That's a shame, we have to wait for a new synaptics clearpad 2000 driver from HTC.
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/verizo...g-from-touchscreen-problems-video-19-12-2011/
http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?rlz=1...sb&fp=9b9cf807851d05d7&biw=1440&bih=839&ion=1
How many people are having this issue?
Ive had it since purchase and im on 4.0.2 now (manually updated) and still having issues.
I have no idea if google or samsung are aware of this but a quick search on google brings up loads of articles about it.
If you not sure download a multi touch test app from the market and follow as they do on the video.
While in landscape mode with the power button at the top the right hand side of the screen will being temperamental which you try to have more than one point on touch on the screen.
I noticed this issue playing heavy gunner today
Unfortunate
Rellikzephyr
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Noticed while playing n64oid
Going to be fixed in 4.0.3 afaik
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I get it playing anything which requires multi touch. Causes modern combat 3 to be un-playable.
Can be fixed sometime by turning screen off and on.
Dont forget to vote if you have it.
Here my Galaxy Nexus yesterday night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNlfGo3YrnQ
Multitouch issue for the first time.
Had this issue a couple times. This truly is the predecessor to the nexus one lol
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oke this is a copy of my thread here :Gnex Game thread
"Oke.
just to point this out and help a couple of people.
the current state of gaming on the Gnex is..rater terrible.
Allot of game's camp with the multitouch error/glitch/compatibility.
Yes multitouch doesnt work how it should work.
The cause of this might be the SB(software buttons)
and an API that needs to be implemented to the game to hide the SB.
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as this might be actually the issue.. that apps dont have the right API/support for the Gnex.
all the linkts and video's you posted are apps that arent native and dont support the GNex at all.
yes they run.but as soon as you get close to the SB you get issue's.
and there is the problem.
the apps need to include the hide SB api that are in the native gnex apps.
there is your problem.
not all apps are affected by this issue due to apps being programmed differently.
(different API level or coding)
as soons as GTA3 has gnex support,than we can see if i was right or you were.
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Going to be fixed in 4.0.3 afaik
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Nope still occurs w 4.0.3
dwang said:
Nope still occurs w 4.0.3
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Because its not an ICS nor GNEX issue.
Download unity3D put 2 touchpads next to each other.
and walah. the same result.
its the App thats making the issue(not being compatible with Gnex)
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Had this issue a couple times. This truly is the predecessor to the nexus one lol
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It has a bad screen and can travel back through time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Zfi3i1ejs
here. i made a video.
just have to wait until they update the games.(rockstar is gone update it[version 1.1 isnt the GNEX update])
its conflicting with the software buttons cuz they arent hidden(they should when the games support Gnex just like tablets not having the bottom bar when playing)
ghost010 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Zfi3i1ejs
here. i made a video.
just have to wait until they update the games.(rockstar is gone update it[version 1.1 isnt the GNEX update])
its conflicting with the software buttons cuz they arent hidden(they should when the games support Gnex just like tablets not having the bottom bar when playing)
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Why would turning screen off and back on fix it for a while?
I hope it is easily fixed but i hope its in android source rather than apps as thats alot of incompatible apps.
Whew. Just tested. Multitouch is perfect!
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Mines great used 6 points all over the screen with no issues
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my multitouch issue only happens with heavy gunners. Once I play heavy gunners, I can see the multitouch issue.
I don't have this issue when playing shadowgun or deadspace.
The first time I tried the multitouch issue it appeared, but after that I have tried a lot of times and is impossible to reproduce the error againg. Eitherway, I have played a lot of times to Modern Combat 2 and I have never had any kind of problem with the multitouch.
BTW, when I achieved reproducing the error, it was just in the typical position of the onscreen controls for games and emulators and just in the left side of the screen if I look it in portrait mode, was strange, in the right side it worked fine, but in the left side not
Mine happens just like in the video. Works perfectly fine until I play a game like heavy gunner, then I get issues. Turn the screen off then back on and everything works again.
edit: Actually, toggling the screen off and back on during the game seems to fix multitouch in-game too
I have the same issue in GTA3 and N64oid.. I hope it will work in updated versions of these apps.
this is what happen to me:
If i'm chargin the phone multitouch goes crazy and doesn't work,litteraly impossible to use, if i unplug the power cord, put the screen off and back on everithing goes back to normal, since i' testing the multitouch with antutu so i'm sure of this bug,
So if only battery powered multitouch ok!
With power cord plugged in multitouch not ok!
let me know what do you think.
So this maybe a minor issue but it would seem that the HTC one x only registers two points of multi-touch. I discovered this by downloading one of the many multi-touch apps from the store and giving it a go.
I guess in general day to day use this will not be an issue bit then I imagine certain apps (think music apps / games) may make use of more. Imagine a piano app for example.
So yeah, not great considering the original iPhone supports more.
Go to display and gestures and disable the HTC gestures. I think this allows more....
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I'm using Fruit ninja, it support 5 of my fingers at the same time.
warpkid said:
So this maybe a minor issue but it would seem that the HTC one x only registers two points of multi-touch. I discovered this by downloading one of the many multi-touch apps from the store and giving it a go.
I guess in general day to day use this will not be an issue bit then I imagine certain apps (think music apps / games) may make use of more. Imagine a piano app for example.
So yeah, not great considering the original iPhone supports more.
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Settings-Screen-disable HTC gesture, then you get 10.
Edit: I type too slow
I've just realised that it must be a software issue as a three finger swipe is used to output video to the HTC media link. hmmm.
Yep, you guys are right - Im an idiot.
I have some problem with my touch screen. It works well when I'm browsing, and using pinch-in/out, and other multi touch actions. Problem occurs when i play some game that requires multi touch(for an example Real Football 2012). And i have downloaded and tried Multi touch test from store and it detects only 2 fingers. And when I put one finger in one corner and other in other and move one of them, while other is fixed, circles that present show me next: Circle on finger that I move goes very well but other circle, on finger that is fixed and isn't moving, goes up and down even if don't move my finger in any direction. Is there any way fixing it? Or is it touch screen fault? Is there any touch screen/multi touch calibration app, because I can't find any on PlayStore?
Hope you will understand what I ment to write, English is not my first language.
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Thats a problem of the hardware itself, the desire dont have "real" multitouch, if two fingers are in one line, there are recognizion problems.
Sorry, no way to solve it if i understood your problem right.
As I know Desire has dualtouch, not multitouch support...
Correct md if I'm wrong.
Didn't knew that. Tnx guys
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T258P7c070&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is what I'm talking about. Any way fixing it?
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Like what was said before, its hardware limitation. You get two touchpoints but doesn't accurately track the fingers exact location accurately. Its not a bug that can be fixed. Its a limitation. Give it up or get a new device.
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Hi,
does anyone else experience the phenomenon on his M8 device, which is pretty much similar to the Xperia Floating Touch feature (can not post a link to a description of this feature sry, just search google with "xperia floating touch" for more information about that).
About 1 out of 10 "touches" is already detected while actually hovering (1-2mm) and not touching the screen. Most of the time this is no issue, while playing flappy bird e.g. this is pretty annoying though ;P.
Is this a bug or a feature which I'm not aware of(searched the internet and forums, but didn't find anything about that) and how can I turn this off?
I am using the Android Revolution HD 8 system at the moment.
Thank you for your help!
It's just the sensitivity of the screen, combined with just how charged your skin is. I get it a few times weekly,just a few,, my gf,who also gets lots of random static jolts from lifts,car doors,etc, gets it constantly,and can barely use it. ( which is perfectly fine by me!) I find a slight tongue touch to the tip sorts it for me.
XDA app on m8 running venom