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Time To Modify IIWPO Theft Control.

hey guyz..
the scene is set, dont want to tell anyone where it happened by whom and ofcourse who got robbed but here's the story.
User had an o2 Xda II, customized rom, with IIWPO Theft Control installed in the rom, so that means hard reset wont wipe IIWPO out of the pda.
Robber comes puts a knife on the user's throat takes away cash and the pda, user gives it happily thinking she will get a msg on the other number with all the info of sim changed.
4 days pass by no info come's and the pda is sold or forwarded to someone else or whatever. END OF STORY.
now how did the user not get a msg of the new sim info.
1. SIM WAS NOT CHANGED.
2.SIM CHANGED BUT NO CREDIT IN NEW SIM.
3.BATTERY TAKEN OUT PDA TOTALLY DEAD TILL NEW CUSTOMER GETS IT. ETC ETC.
WHAT CAN BE DONE.
ok guyz this is the part where i would like allll the geeks & gurus to put in some effort, i know it will be tough but i have a feeling its not impossible.
CAN UR,LL UPDATE IIWPO IN SUCH A WAY THAT WHEN WE ARE FEEDING OUR NAME AND OTHER INFO IT WILL ALSO ASK FOR A SECURITY PASS TO BE PUT IN, SO THAT WHEN ROBBER CHANGES SIM THE IIWPO RECOGNIZES THE SIM CHANGE AND LOCK'S THE PDA AND ASKS FOR THE PASS, AND WONT UNLOCK TILL PASS PROVIDED, REBOOT WONT HELP.
Now ofcourse the robber can be anyone, so the robber plans to hard reset and still the device would recognize the sim change and ask for pass now so annoyed he plans to flash the device and what happens after that all of us know.
To prevent this THE GEEKS & GURUS can just build a small security patch that can wont allow flashing of device till pass given, it would work like this, we flash our device for the first time install IIWPO and the NEW SECURITY PATCH (with passwords) device is robbed, robber changes the sim gets pass error he gets pissed and tries to flash the device and that clever software would not flash the device till pass provided, this would prove that all the efforts the robber made to steal the device are gone to waste.
And ofcourse someday someone might put in a sim with credit and we would get the info.
NOT FORGETTING CHARLES WARNER FOR THE GREAT WORK HE'S PUT IN FOR ALL xda-developers.com USERS and also giving the IIWPO to us for free, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK SIR !! THANKS ALOT.

no one interested in being secured ?

I think the IIWPO idea can definitely be improved, BUT: It will never protect you from being robbed.
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device. In the end: someone will put in his/her sim and then its just bing!
All other enhancements will just make sure noone else gets to use the device. Sure an improvement, but less important to me: I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!

Interesting...
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
IIWPO does not detect if someone changes the SIM card. It ONLY acts when the someone changes the Owner Information (Start/Settings/Owner Information), so no matter what SIM card there is, as long as it has credit it will send an SMS to the recipient's phone number. That's the beauty of it, that it silently sends the SMS with the 'new' users data so there is a slight chance of knowing who's the 'new' owner.
But! This is by no means fool proof. It's what they call 'protection by obscurity', so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO.
That's one of the cool new features of WM5.0, that we can at least know for sure that our data is SAFE by wiping the info remotely if necessary.
Just a thought.
Rayan

edsub said:
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device.I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!
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Rayan said:
so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO
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ofcourse this is why we all love IIWPO cause it sends use a msg, and ofcourse even if someone was to modify IIWPO iam sure that this feature would'nt wipe out.god forbid you get robbed u get a msg frm the cell but you for some reason cant track the person or some other c#@p...and the pda is gone....WHY caz it only sends sms it does not block the screen....if you were to have a feature which would jam or freeze the pda on change of the name then the pda would be useless to the robber nothing much he could do....unless he knows how to flash it...now comes a part where we can do something about not flashin the device with out a pass....this would totally make the pda useless to the robber and would also keep sendin us msgs and secondly the robber maybe maybe next time might think twice before robbing a pda and might go for something else

How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,

cruisin-thru said:
How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,
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tht would be great..... are u goood enough to build something like tht ?

Rayan said:
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve

edsub said:
Rayan said:
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve
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Sorry edsub, I should have specified to whom I was refering to (zairyaab) when I wrote that comment.
Best regards,
Rayan

np m8

edsub said:
It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
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Can you explain what should I change in the cab to make it work on other devices (Like ETen M500/Torq P100)?
edsub said:
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve.
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Yeah, but still I would feel somewhat better if I can at least call the thief/buyer and shout some expletives if he/she refuses to cooperate!!! :twisted: :lol:
Best regards,
Rayan

i have my girlfriend's number as my report number.. what if were together and we got robbed both our phones are taken away.. a multiple report number would be a good addition to IIWPO

The changes I'd like to see done to IIWPO include:
a) not using "IIWPO" or 'xda-developer' in the registry (user customisable registry key)
b) user customisable executable file name (IIWPO_startup is like a dead giveaway)
c) not storing owner name & number 'in the clear' (a simple XOR to hide it would be just as effective)
d) a hash of the entire owner info page (not just the last name) so unit will resend an SMS if any info changes
e) a new sms is resent after a preset time (eg: every 24/48/120 hours for example), regardless if owner info has changed or not.
I also like the idea of multiple number reporting.
a,b,c) Considering the concept of IIWPO is 'security by obscurity'; it will help if one could hide it more effectively. (no one is going to bother too much about bluetooth.exe or msn_update.exe in the startup folder for example...)
d) Most people get their name right; then meddle with the other bits of information as time goes on - it'd be good to get 'updated' info as and when it happens.
e) Consider it a 'keep alive' thing, so we'll know the unit is still in use, and can continue to keep in touch with the new owner =) I've no moral issues burning up the credit of someone who refuses to give me back my property either. =P
If nothing else, we'd be able to know when the unit gets reflashed, and can quiety say goodbye to our unit after not hearing from it for a while... =(
Is IIWPO still being maintained by the author, or anyone on xda-developers? If not, is the source available? I might be interested in following up on it (time permitting...)
Edited to add: A really vicious version of the IIWPO would possibly send out:
a) phone numbers stored in the SIM card
b) phone numbers stored in the addres book
c) recently dialed/received phone numbers
d) recently sent/received SMS phone numbers
Not all in one go; but in bits and pieces (eg: every 20 startups; send phone numbers of last 5 SMSs sent/received + last 5 phone calls dialed/received).
That would allow us get in touch with his friends and would possibly aid in getting the unit returned (use your imagination... probably easier to get them tell you who/where he is, rather than to get them convince him to return it...)
Probably this would add too much bloat to IIWPO; but hey, could be useful... =P

WOW, ok.
First of all - I registered 2 this forum less than a week ago,
and great job for doing these kind of things.
second - where can i d/l the prog?
and last another idea: when some1 steals ur pda he's usually gonna sell it over. meaning he made his money.
HOWEVER - if even after a HR after changing sims (maybe even without) there will be a picture message saying:
"You cannot use this phone"
"This phone can only be used by me - *name*"
"However, Im willing to buy this phone back from you. call +......"
there wont be a place on the screen to enter the code.
however - the phones' user knows he can type his password and unlock the phone. you might even integrate a handwriting recognition programm for signature or somthing but that will be super hard, i know.
another option is that when seeing this message user has to touch 4 corners of the screen with the stylus in a specific order, then he'll have a please enter password screen.
any comment?
is it do-able?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IIWPO

How to fix TomTom Plus if your device id changed.

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this will only work ONE time within a 6 month period as they only allow you to change it once within 6 months. There customer services is utter crap. Just so you know as now you have changed yours you wont be able to change it again for another 6 months no matter what.

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You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...

You know, I just call them and they add the new device code into the licensing for my product code. Have changed 4 times in the last three months. No Issues, Explained my problem, I was transferred and the gentleman did while at I was on phone.

Percz said:
You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...
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Hint ppplease...

eagle 1 said:
You know, I just call them and they add the new device code into the licensing for my product code. Have changed 4 times in the last three months. No Issues, Explained my problem, I was transferred and the gentleman did while at I was on phone.
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What number did you call?

I just ordered TomTom 6 for my softbank, and this subject concerns me. Like a lot of you here, I like to flash the ROM on my phone when a new one comes out. What should I do to keep from being locked out of software that I paid for to use in case my Device ID changes after I flash to another ROM? Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

Percz said:
You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...
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There are for the maps but not for the "tomtom plus " services as it connects to there web servers for traffic and speed scamera updates.

i have just got tomtom 6 mobile, does it need installed on a blank memory card or can i just make a folder on my storage card callled tomtom and drop the stuff into it, i ask coz i have tryed this and i couldnt get the software to install.
i second the fact that their customer service is ass!! not got any response!!! is there anyone that can help me here?
thanks in advance

kman79 said:
I just ordered TomTom 6 for my softbank, and this subject concerns me. Like a lot of you here, I like to flash the ROM on my phone when a new one comes out. What should I do to keep from being locked out of software that I paid for to use in case my Device ID changes after I flash to another ROM? Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
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ANY help out there on this?
It seems like there is a choice: Download Tomtom traffic / speed camera and NEVER flash your device again, OR forget about Tomtom traffic / speed camera and FLASH happily forever.
I'm still not decided! I woulda thought there was a way by now to keep your device code after flashing a new ROM but the silence out there seems to suggest that there isn't!

Damnnnnnnnnnnn it!!!!
My device code just changed over night for no reason at all! Now Tomtom thinks I have a new phone and doesn't let me use the speed camera and John Cleese voice I paid for twice!!!
It'd be cheaper just to get a speeding ticket!!!!

bennec83 said:
i have just got tomtom 6 mobile, does it need installed on a blank memory card or can i just make a folder on my storage card callled tomtom and drop the stuff into it, i ask coz i have tryed this and i couldnt get the software to install.
i second the fact that their customer service is ass!! not got any response!!! is there anyone that can help me here?
thanks in advance
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Just run the installation program from the pc and it will install automatically
the maps need to be in the storage card as they are, for example if you have a uk & ireland map that must be in \storage card\uk and ireland map( or whatever the map is called ) folder.
The software for tomtom should install onto the device. Then simply run it and then activate your maps

You can also "cut" the Navigator folder out of "My programs" directory on the hermes and paste on SD card. You just have to send a shortcut to your "Start Menu" folder in the windows directory. Did this with Resco explorer 2007, Works flawlessly. A little bit extra time to start up but not enough to worry about.
Cheers...

Can someone explain how it is that I don't need any activation code for the maps on my Tomtom?
My Tomtom came on a memory card when I bought the phone on ebay. Once installed on the phone all the maps work fine (no activation needed), even if I flash the ROM and thus change the device code.
When the device code changes, the only thing that goes is Tomtom plus services, like downloaded stuff and Traffic.
Explanation anyone?

Blackberry Connect

Will Blackberry Connect work on the Touch Pro2?
I have installed version 106 and no luck as yet with t-mobile., stiil pending.
I just put the blackberry service on the phone and they said give it another day to activate the service.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

i have been stuck on this issue for a week... no luck...
wrote to htc and they came back saying that look for updates on its site... now that's a really long shot..
would suggest that you too write to them... lets put some pressure..
this is a business phone according to them... then bberry is as much important!

I havent bought this phone yet, but I would only be able to if bbconnect is working.
Could you try to change the device ID to TouchPRO in settings/system/about and change the registry HLM\System\Versions\Aku to .1.6.0
But you need to change it BEFORE you install BBConnect
Please indicate if this makes any difference, otherwise we'll need to wait for a new bbconnect version

When i had installed the software without the above settings, i had a PIN and IP address - but it would not connect.
Later on i had hard reset the phone...
now i re-installed the software with the settings u mentioned, but i do not have a PIN or IP Address and bbconnect will not register either...
could u please tell me how to un-install it safely too? as i do not want to do another hard-reset now!
(btw, i had done a hard reset on the phone earlier coz after i tried 106 and uninstalled it, i installed a previous version 100 and it hung my phone.... )

peebee01 said:
I havent bought this phone yet, but I would only be able to if bbconnect is working.
Could you try to change the device ID to TouchPRO in settings/system/about and change the registry HLM\System\Versions\Aku to .1.6.0
But you need to change it BEFORE you install BBConnect
Please indicate if this makes any difference, otherwise we'll need to wait for a new bbconnect version
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Thanks..I just unstalled and tried your settings still no connection or PIN.

am sure htc engineers visit these pages too....
hope u guys understand.. that u r touting the tp2 as a business phone.. and we need blackberry too in a business phone to complete the package....
we cannot connect to exchange alone (that incurs data charges and is not roaming friendly - especially international).. we need bberry coz that keeps us mobile from country to country that we visit...
common guys... its just a few lines of code u hv to modify... am sure...

Hi,
Have you tried this?
See WM65 solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502623
I think you have to play with the version number of your WM...
In case of WM61
I used this:
HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change whatever in there (like .0.0.3) to .0.4.2
Br,
Zsocee

I'm an Aussie wanting to purchase a Rhodium...
I'm upgrading from a 7100G blackberry handset. (yup a massive upgrade). Although the most critical part of my phone... (apart from making phone calls) is my blackberry push e-mail...
I can't afford to change over phones until I know that the Blackberry Connect 4.0 works. I know that HTC have a special version of the Blackberry Connect for the Diamond, the Touch Pro ect...
http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=497&news_id=61
With Windows 6.5 rumoured to be released within the next month I'm speculating that we won't see Blackberry Connect 4.0 working on the windows mobile 6.1

Zsocee said:
Hi,
Have you tried this?
See WM65 solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502623
I think you have to play with the version number of your WM...
In case of WM61
I used this:
HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change whatever in there (like .0.0.3) to .0.4.2
Br,
Zsocee
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nope... non of these solutions will work.. tried all of them... even faced a few hard-resets trying older versions of bbconnect.
we have to wait for the next release. hmm....

mirage22 said:
nope... non of these solutions will work.. tried all of them... even faced a few hard-resets trying older versions of bbconnect.
we have to wait for the next release. hmm....
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Me too!! Not working.
Had T-mobile and Rim on the phone together with no luck.

Well I contacted HTC to find out when it would work and this was the reply I received:
Since Windows Mobile is our platform for the HTC handsets, we would push customers to use the Microsoft exchange server.
The device comes with microsoft exchange server support and also supports IMAP and POP3 accounts.
HTC is not going to release any Blackberry connect applications and it would not up to HTC to do this. If Blackberry wants to develop an application and release it to HTC, you may need to check with RIM/BB.
RIM (is the company name)
Blackberry is the platform
Hope this information helps.
Sounds like the person I was contacted by either has no idea or there's no plan for blackberry connect to work on the touch pro 2.... Oh well looks like I'll have to purchase a storm...

Just be patient...
I'm more than sure that we will get BBC to work the same way we did it before. By manipulating the Device-ID string in the ROM (from HTC-Rhodium to whatever) BBC should recognize the device as "allowed" and it _should_ work. So all we have to do is to wait for the HardSPL-guys getting it done so that we can flash custom ROMs. Once this is done, I assume we will have BBC up and running.

Blackberry Connect.
Blackberry Connect does not work on the device, however, it seems to work on the HD.

From Sems.org
Has anyone tried this?
from http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?entry_id=338#IDComment31926819
Paul
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make sure your AKU is set to .1.6.3. I have bbc .106 working fine on my touch pro2 with this and the SetModelID solution
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I am planning on upgrading from Fuze to Fortress (TP2) and want to see if this works. You need to make sure your account is provisioned for BBConnect service.

Didn't work for me even after switching system ID to identify as Raphael, on T-Mobile US.

It works fine on the Rhodium. Check out the thread entitled "blackberry connect, not yet working" It got working about halway through. I use BBC on mine but I needed to make a couple of tweaks as outlined in that thread.

Dominoid - Rhodium - Blackberry connect
very interested in your asnwer dominoid.....can you send us more specifics as to how / what / where. We are dying to get Rhodium work with BBErry Connect. Which version worked with yours?

Does anyone know the orignal AKU for the ATT Tilt2?

I hate cross posting in threads, but somehow people decided to open different threads on the same topic. (Maybe a mod can merge them into one if he reads this).
Read more for a final solution without using SetModelID and starting and stoping services each time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4782317&postcount=163
Direct Link to the HowTo: http://www.silentservices.de/HexEdit-ROM-for-BBC.html

BBC
Works excellanty on my TP2 on Vodafone India Delhi n/w
follow steps on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5123157#post5123157:o

Any way to locate stolen/lost phone?

My daughter lost her phone (htc hd2) .
I got the s/n, sim number, ...
I there any way to use the phone gps to find where it is?

probably not unless you had some tracking software on it....sorry

If you were using microsoft myphone, it has an option in it to locate a lost phone and/or lock/erase it (I think). Log in online to see what options are there.

mwalt2 said:
If you were using microsoft myphone, it has an option in it to locate a lost phone and/or lock/erase it (I think). Log in online to see what options are there.
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This was what I was going to say!
But, what you can do is to go to Police with the IMEI number and they will block the IMEI so the phone becomes useless. (At least in my country they can do this )

Prime example of why kids shouldn't own expensive toys... "I always wanted to say that now that I'm not a kid anymore" lol..

Thanks
Thanks you all...
I already file a police report (give then s/n, sim nbr, ....) .
Will t-mobile contact the police if anybody try to activate the phone ?
Jose

Is there a way to create Lee o account if you are in Europe(croatia)

Is there any round way to make Leeco account somehow if you are not from USA, CHINA, India and 3 or 4 other countries Leeco would accept ?
If something crashes, I can't even send a feedback or anything.
Any help would be appreciated.
" Contacts stopped working, so please describe what happened bcos we would like to hear from you what happened."
After I write everything, there comes a reply something like this:
"OPS, SORRY, YOU ARE NOT FROM FEW COUNTRIES WE ACCEPT FEEDBACK FROM. BYE, AND NEXT TIME BE MORE CAREFULL WHEN READING A SMALLPRINT IN YOUR PHONE BOX.
Thanks in advance for any help.
P. S. Phone was bought from Banggood. 2 months ago.

Try the following link;
https://sso-us.le.com/?ver=3.0&next...r&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=DonanimHaber

Maybe you could try that opera free vpn app, just turn it on temporarily when sending the reports