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Anyone else having lag problems on the their Desire

Hey all,
I got my desire this morning, and i don't know if its just me, but everything takes a long time to load up e.g. time, weather, calendar, text messages, email apps.
Is anyone else having this problem, or should i return the phone.
Thanks for your help

i had a problem with the market on the first day. the market was very slow. after 1 day it is working as normal. maybe the phone need some time before everything is working fine
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cybapaddy said:
i had a problem with the market on the first day. the market was very slow. after 1 day it is working as normal. maybe the phone need some time before everything is working fine
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i wouldnt say so, it was and it is working fine for me, maybe perford a hard reset if that doesnt help get it replaced?

aypuk said:
Hey all,
I got my desire this morning, and i don't know if its just me, but everything takes a long time to load up e.g. time, weather, calendar, text messages, email apps.
Is anyone else having this problem, or should i return the phone.
Thanks for your help
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I think it depends on your perception of lag. I feel my device slows down momentarily sometimes when navigating through long lists and opening some applications as you mention. I thought at first it might be a problem with my device but have since had it replaced (because of dust under the screen not this) but I still notice it the same. I think I just expect everything to be instantaneous given the 1Ghz processor inside but to be honest it doesn't bother me and I imagine most people don't notice any slow down at all.
As an example, just now selecting the option to add the HTC Clock widget to the home screen there is a noticeable pause before it comes up with the options to choose widget style.
I would be interested in how quickly the Photos application loads for people though, it takes a good few seconds for me (around 4 seconds sometimes) to load the summary view with 'camera shots', 'all photos' links etc. I've replaced the memory card to an 8gb Sandisk Ultra as I thought the read speed of the original could be the cause, but it still takes the same time.
None of these things effect the usability of the device in practical terms though.

Market / Weather are possibly lagging due to Network speed rather than phone speed. They have to DL data to the phone.
Others like Email may be refreshing when opened causing lag.
My messages app (Handcent currently) only lags when I have many hundreds of messages saved. But it is noticably better than chomp at handling the same volume of messages.

I find the phone lags when it is installing stuff. And by lag I mean delayed responses to my input.
I also find that certain apps can load up and then cause the phone to stutter. I haven't found out exactly which apps but it's always solved with a soft reset - just turning the phone off and on. Either that or it's forcing the phone to store too much on the SD card.
Maybe I'll find the offending app when I have more time.

[Q] Issues with widgets after rebooting or mounting as disk drive

Whenever I reboot the phone, all of my home page widgets are reset and I have to reload them. This is also happenning after I unount the phone after mounting it as a disk drive. What's also wierd is that some of my preferences, like launcherpro or swiftkey, have to be reset after rebooting or unmounting also. Swiftkey specifically is wierd, because I can't just hold a text box and change the imput settings, I have to relaod the app, and go through the process from scratch.
I've been loading a bunch of roms lately, and I originally thought it was a rom issue, but its happenning on any rom I load (and I always do a full wipe before loading a rom). Is there something on the sdcard that I should clear?
It's hugely frustrating - any help would be appreciated.

fachadick said:
Whenever I reboot the phone, all of my home page widgets are reset and I have to reload them. This is also happenning after I unount the phone after mounting it as a disk drive. What's also wierd is that some of my preferences, like launcherpro or swiftkey, have to be reset after rebooting or unmounting also. Swiftkey specifically is wierd, because I can't just hold a text box and change the imput settings, I have to relaod the app, and go through the process from scratch.
I've been loading a bunch of roms lately, and I originally thought it was a rom issue, but its happenning on any rom I load (and I always do a full wipe before loading a rom). Is there something on the sdcard that I should clear?
It's hugely frustrating - any help would be appreciated.
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anyone? Bueller?

Are you running FroYo with the widgets installed to the SDCard?

Move all the widgets to the phone off of the SD card for smoother performance and less hassle. You might benefit from a faster microSDHC card other than the Class 2 card that came with the phone. I am purchasing a 16GB Class 10 card for 90 dollars but a Class 6 card will be leaps and bounds faster than your Class 2 card.

Thanks guys - that was exactly it. I moved the problem widgets to the phone from the sdcard, set them all up again, rebooted, and everything was still there!
Thanks again!

Most functional Android rom

I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.

lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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Camera not working is related to your kernel/radio rom. Also you could use not so super froyo if you want the same with more features. If you want more speed I suggest a Cyanogen based rom as these are the fastest currently. I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top.
USB to pc is not working through my computer right now but adb is at least. What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect and is still more or less of a thing to be like "Look what my old phone can do!" thing. If you want everything perfect then Windows mobile has that already. Otherwise if you want a cooler newer OS on your phone then its going to take a little time for us. We have come a long ways but not all the way there yet.

lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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the search bar will work if you download google search from the market, it was removed since it can be installed from the market, fat free is fully functional you just have to work to get it going out of the gate, now in contrast not so super froyo is ready to go from the get go

lemminman said:
the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor.
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I am using Fat Free Froyo RLS5 and all that stuff works for me.
USB to PC works perfectly in linux It works for me on windows 7 too, but you just have to wait a long time (maybe 2-5 mins) for the computer to recognise it.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu (or press whatever buttons you have assigned to volume up/down)

Thanks for the help, guys.
I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top
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That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
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I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect [...]
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The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
the search bar will work if you download google search from the market
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That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.

lemminman said:
Thanks for the help, guys.
That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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the white screen is a known issue apparently overclocking improves this

White screen is present when the system didn't draw the screen before it power up.
When you overclock the system is faster so it spend less time to draw the interface.
Sometimes you have with screen when the system sleep but it can't resume because the main app crashes.

To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu
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This changes "Ring volume" regardless of what I have opened.
Thanks for all the input, everyone.
I have tried four different Android builds now and I haven't gotten a USB data connection with any of them. I noticed that one of them had a Network option, as though I might be able to browse files of computers on the network which would solve my problem. Unfortunately, that particular build just says "Error" when I try to turn WiFi on.
Is there an android app I can install that will allow me to transfer files between my phone and a PC? That is really the number one priority right now. To test these Android builds I have been reverting back to WMP every time I want to try a different one because I need to put the androidinstall.tar onto my card. I tried loading a bunch of different ones on the card to avoid this, but I get "Permission denied" when I try to rename a file in the andboot folder.
Thanks again.

The forum search tool will answer all those questions I know I have answered it atleast 500000 times
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.

Shayer said:
I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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Well at least the white screen is being worked on, see the thread I made.

[Q] replacement battery problems (not related to quick draining)

hey,
so my girlfriend has a droid incredible, not rooted, and many times when she switches to her bak up battery AND BACK, her apps delete. many times she has to re-download her apps and they're not even listed under her apps in the market. she turns off the phone before ripping the battery out and changing it, but she still has the issue. the battery is supposedly OEM, and purchased off eBay. its black considering its an evo battery and it reads HTC innovation on the battery. in any case, as i mentioned before, it happens when she switches back to her regular battery as well. in addition the widgets read "problem loading gadget". (obviously because the app has deleted)
anyone have any solutions to solving this or why this might e happening. to my understanding these batteries should yield no problems. also, this is not the first time this has happened it has happened alot. perhaps if there is no direct solution, maybe i can find an app to make sure none of my apps get deleted during the transfer process? let me know,
thanks
if anyone can help i also have minor issue on my dinc with the generic batteries i ordered from ebay that when i plug it in, the battery has an exclamation point. anyway to get rid of this? its not too annoying because i use mini info widget anyway, but id rather have it solved.
thanks again
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If they're on the SD card it'll often take a few minutes for it to load up.
The problem looks like it's from the SD card, maybe it's having some issues or maybe she's accidentally knocking it out of place when she switches batteries.

POQbum said:
If they're on the SD card it'll often take a few minutes for it to load up.
The problem looks like it's from the SD card, maybe it's having some issues or maybe she's accidentally knocking it out of place when she switches batteries.
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the problem seems to be deeper than that. shes definitely not knocking out the sd card cuz its always stable. besides this is a problem for every app thats not stock. she doesnt have ALL apps2sd anyway.
if it helps.. some apps stay some apps go, but for the ones that stay, they force close. ie. hopstop wasnt deleted but FC. in addition she would re download twitter and that would FC. to confuse you even more shazam was not deleted or reinstalled but still works (all data was deleted tho)

Sounds weird. I know this is a long shot that you will actually try it, but it sounds like it'd be a good idea to reinstall that phone.
It's been known that there are a couple of mallicous apps (now removed from the market) but it's *possible* she may have downloaded one of them and that is causing a lot of the issues. It may just be some weird data corruption in important system files, it's hard to tell with just what you're telling me but as long as she doesn't mind it- reinstalling with a fresh ROM and kernel would be a good start and likely will fix the problem.
Apps can still be backed up via titanium backup, and there's apps for backing up messages and you can sync contacts to either verizon or your google account.
Just a thought.

Ordering of apps in drawer keep messing up

After some reboots, I noticed that my apps in the app drawer keep messing up.
Not sure what's the caused, and get fedup of having to rearrange it often.
Any idea?

yer i had that issue for the first 1 and 1/2 weeks of use but i found that after installing a few more apps then it shipped with it stopped after about 9 apps

I think some people have said that having the apps moved to the SD card can make the ordering mess up, since they're loaded later than internal apps

It's really irritating, as it seems to occur randomly

I had this problem too, and the easiest way to fix the problem is just set the order to most used, and not "own order" that way u can get to the app's u use most often on the first screen and they don't move around.
It got so bad with mine moving around that at one point I had about 10 screens, some with no or 1 app on each, setting it to "most used" solved it and I haven't had a problem since.
Hope this helps

Adam3Sixty said:
I had this problem too, and the easiest way to fix the problem is just set the order to most used, and not "own order" that way u can get to the app's u use most often on the first screen and they don't move around.
It got so bad with mine moving around that at one point I had about 10 screens, some with no or 1 app on each, setting it to "most used" solved it and I haven't had a problem since.
Hope this helps
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just to add, if you use another home launcher besides the stock one, this disarrangement or whatever you call it, happens most of the time. So I prefer to use the stock SE home launcher and sort it by "most recently used" as well.

I've noticed that sometimes opening the app tray/drawer before everything's loaded from the sd card (in case of apps moved to sd) can cause their icons to not show in the 'remembered' location and will appear on the last page instead. Solutions is to just give it a little time to fully load everything after a boot.
Edit: also seems to happen if the sd card is connected to the pc in msc mode, i.e. inaccessible and unmounted from the system.