I am running CM6, I asked this question 4 separate times in the thread and never got an answer, I know people get mad for putting stuff in the wrong section, but this has to do with android development.
Are users who flash custom ROM's supposed to update their "radio or PRL" for a certain ROM, I have seen alot of stuff about that and have no idea if I should update or what it does, The only thing I know about flashing ROM's is how to wipe my stuff and flash them, When it comes to Radios, overclocking, or PRL update, I have no idea. My Battery hasn't been that great and I am thinking its because maybe my cell radio is always on or something?
actually this doesn't have to do with android development...
what exactly are you confused about? now i'm confused.
I have read threads and seen people saying for certain ROM's that you need to update your radio for this ROM.
For this ROM if you scroll down it gives you a link for "latest radio and WImax"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
Do certain ROMS like CM6 for example need the radio to be updated or anything like that?
Every once in a while Sprint will release a new radio that supposedly gives better reception and/or battery life. To get the best results, we usually flash these radios. It's as simple as finding the radio thread and flashing the zip file just the same as how you flash ROMs. But be careful, flashing the wrong radio CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE (only if you flash a different phone's radio). PRL is preferred roaming list, and can be upgraded in HTC sense ROMs settings. It doesn't do much except tell your phone which towers to connect to when your in Roaming mode. So use your discretion and be careful.
mjz147 said:
I have read threads and seen people saying for certain ROM's that you need to update your radio for this ROM.
For this ROM if you scroll down it gives you a link for "latest radio and WImax"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
Do certain ROMS like CM6 for example need the radio to be updated or anything like that?
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a) you're right, this shouldn't be in the development forum, despite it being a question about adjusting the prl. questions belong in the threads of those subjects, or in q and a
b) you're not going to hurt anything by updating the radio and wimax radio
c) updating the radio/wimax radio may or may not affect the prl
d) there is not an easy way to update the prl or pri using cm6 right now. if you want to change the prl, and are using a windows machine, you can check out a program called 'cdma workshop'. i haven't used it, so i'm not going to vouch for it. other people have, and you can use it to dink around with several components of the underworkings of your phone.
got it, thanks
In techknowfiles thread they have a way to update the PRL files by grabbing Epst from a sense ROM. I'd link but I am on the xda app.
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I have been happily flashing ROM's, creating a Goldcard for a couple of weeks since getting my Hero and have just done a Radio update. I just realised I have no idea what the Radio update actually does.
Could someone explain in fairly simple terms what it is all about, I guess I have cat blood and curiosity has got the better of me
Sure. The radio update flashes the software on the little 'chip' that deals with mobile network/GPS/WiFI/Bluetooth etc. (basically all communications).
The update changes the software to a newer version, which can give better signal and battery life (It's a bit like flashing a normal ROM, except it's only for the communications hardware or baseband as iPhone users call it).
For more info, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-update-zip-format-for-gsm-hero/#entry1059164 which also gives you a list of them
Thanks for the prompt reply and simple terms. I am almost getting to the stage where I am qualified to make a phone call
Ah, great, I was wondering about this too. Is there any difference which radio rom you flash apart from GSM/CDMA? (My Hero has a suspicious "EU" in it which the roms I've seen online have not. Might just be some versioning, but then again it might be "europe"...)
How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?
EU doesnt mean europe, it is a way of identifying the radio version, like there is JU, JH, etc.
I found this out from other sources in the mean while (and forgot about this thread; it's been a couple of weeks after all), but thanks for replying anyway, it'll surely help the next guy wondering.
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How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?
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In the link posted a few posts up, you'll find the radio updates in the update.zip format needed to update via recovery mode, like any other custom ROM flash to your phone. However, Radio updates are typically included in the official RUU updates as well, but those will obviously unroot your phone.
Aside from increasing battery life/signal strength, radio updates can bring bugfixes and features. Newer OS ROMs typically work best with the latest Radio ROMs. After I rooted, I had an "EU" radio on my Telus Hero, and I couldn't make long distance calls unless the phone number had a "+" in front of it in my contact list. Updating the radio fixed that. Hope this info helps.
yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?
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yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?
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OK. Well, the file doesn't *have* to be called update.zip. The recovery image has an option to choose a zip file, which makes things much much easier, as you can flash several files without rebooting, although I believe you have to reboot as part of the radio flash process. With this in mind, I would flash the OS update first, then the radio update. However, it really doesn't matter what order you flash them in. While the OS and radio rely on each other for the phone to operate properly, they are completely separate and individual from a flashing standpoint. They both get flashed in the exact same way from the recovery image, however with the radio, rebooting the phone is a necessary part of the process. If you were (for some dumb reason) to flash the radio and then remove the battery before the phone had completely rebooted, you'd end up with a broken (and possibly bricked) phone.
I wouldn't flash a radio without having an os installed, so if you have wiped then flash an os first. Just to make sure everything goes smooth.
A new radio file won't install until you do the first boot after installing which from memory is forced on you, so you will want to have a rom installed.
Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves
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Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves
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Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)
Lennyuk said:
Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)
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So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?
alpha124 said:
So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?
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Yes
And don't panic when it takes up to 5 mins to boot first time.
Radio update
HI ALL
please ,if i flah the radio , i loste des root ?.
And please wish methode to flash wihtout lost the root
PS:I have the hero
thanks for help
flashing radio doesn't do anything to the rom, you won't lose your root.
thanks Lennyuk,
Please you confirm that if i flash only the radio ,the root is not pacted ?
Sorry for my bad english and my bad request
For some reasons, my evo doesn't connnect internet thru 4g anymore. It will get an IP and signal says good. but it will not connect anywhere. I have to stay with 3g. Does anyone have a similar problem?
update the radio its on this site
dogbone414 said:
update the radio its on this site
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I did. My radio version is 1.39.00.05.31
did you ever get your 4g working...I just rooted also and my radio is 1.39.00.05.31
Even though your 4G doesn't work, probably because you failed to read simple instructions first, the search button on this forum does in fact work wonders still. Use it.
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For some reasons, my evo doesn't connnect internet thru 4g anymore. It will get an IP and signal says good. but it will not connect anywhere. I have to stay with 3g. Does anyone have a similar problem?
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from what i've read around these forums most people are downgrading their radio's because the latest one don't work with 4g....and after downgrading to 1.36 it has worked for them. so try flashing all the different radios and see which one works for you
If youre in Chicago, there seems to be an issue with 4G. Issue should be resolved within 24hrs according to Sprint.
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I did. My radio version is 1.39.00.05.31
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The most recent radio is 2.05.00.06.10. The most recent WiMAX (Sprint's 4G) is 25641_R01.
You can get them from this thread.
Flash them just like you do a ROM. Drop the zip file on your sdcard, install using recovery. Your phone might reboot a couple of times during the process.
No, don't do that. You need to use whatever radio the ROM you're using calls for. You can not just blindly install a new radio on a ROM that wasn't designed for it.
If you are stock, the OTA updates will bring you the newest radios. If you are not stock, you need to use the radio specified by your ROM.
MCL1981 said:
No, don't do that. You need to use whatever radio the ROM you're using calls for. You can not just blindly install a new radio on a ROM that wasn't designed for it.
If you are stock, the OTA updates will bring you the newest radios. If you are not stock, you need to use the radio specified by your ROM.
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And you can get those proper radio files where? Oh that's right, this thread, the same one I linked earlier.
Some of the ROMs listed on the site will tell you which you need. Some won't and let you guess which is right through trial and error. At any rate, they're all available there.
I'm not contesting your link. I'm contesting your suggestion of blindly dumping radios into a ROM that may or may not work.
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I'm not contesting your link. I'm contesting your suggestion of blindly dumping radios into a ROM that may or may not work.
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What's to contest, other than being a jerk? You might as well say "don't blindly dump ROMs on your phone, you might break it." These aren't like the baseband on the iPhone where it's a pain in the butt to go back to an earlier version.
I did. I'm sorry I suggested he do it the right way the first time rather than shooting in the dark and seeing what noise you hear down range.
MCL1981 said:
You need to use whatever radio the ROM you're using calls for. You can not just blindly install a new radio on a ROM that wasn't designed for it.
If you are stock, the OTA updates will bring you the newest radios. If you are not stock, you need to use the radio specified by your ROM.
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MCL1981 said:
Even though your 4G doesn't work, probably because you failed to read simple instructions first, the search button on this forum does in fact work wonders still. Use it.
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You shouldn't mind 'guiding' the newer folks to the right source. There are hundreds of dead ends in these forums. Many of which are bookended by peeps such as yourself saying 'search this or that'. Truth be told, there is little organization here. Sure, if you're a troll you know where to go; but there is no concise guide formulated yet.
So, sieze this opportunity to help those who are honestly trying to find the information. You can hang around and slay those who are demanding without justification. Hell, I'll join you in slamming them.
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You shouldn't mind 'guiding' the newer folks to the right source. There are hundreds of dead ends in these forums. Many of which are bookended by peeps such as yourself saying 'search this or that'. Truth be told, there is little organization here. Sure, if you're a troll you know where to go; but there is no concise guide formulated yet.
So, sieze this opportunity to help those who are honestly trying to find the information. You can hang around and slay those who are demanding without justification. Hell, I'll join you in slamming them.
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There are dead ends on these forums because people don't search and just create new thread after new thread. But that's neither here nor there...
4g is teasing me!
Who has a HTC Evo rooted and has this theme and has 4G working?
I have 4G in my Area but i no longer can connect to it!!!!!
mY phone info:
[ROM] Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo - [RLS 1 - 09/27/2010] -An Enlightening Experience *NEW*
Hardware info
Hardware version
0003
Software info:
Version 2.2
Baseband v.
2.15.00.09.01
Kernal v.
2.6.32.15 ge2fb08e
[email protected] #11
Software number:
3.29.651.5
Browser v.
WebKit 3.1
PRI V.
1.77_003
PRL V.
60671
Can any share some insight or solution?
Looking to update my PRL manually since I have a PRL to force roaming. Does anyone not a quick workaround since ##775# no longer works.
Thanks in advance!
Flash a ROM that has it, change it, then flash back to your original ROM.
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I'm guessing it would have be a someone with a ROM that hasnt updated to Froyo? Would I lose all the new features of 2.2? This sucks big time. Something told me not to update..
If you are on one of the rooted stock roms, you can update the prl from the ROM. Go to menu/settings/system updates... you can update profile and prl. Some of the other FroYo ROMs based off the htc update have this.
Nevermind, just re-read the original post. I thought you meant you wanted to force an UPDATE through the ROM, as opposed to you manually CHANGING the PRL. Not sure how to change the PRL. Sorry
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If you are on one of the rooted stock roms, you can update the prl from the ROM. Go to menu/settings/system updates... you can update profile and prl. Some of the other FroYo ROMs based off the htc update have this.
Nevermind, just re-read the original post. I thought you meant you wanted to force an UPDATE through the ROM, as opposed to you manually CHANGING the PRL. Not sure how to change the PRL. Sorry
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Thanks anyways!
Anybody?????!!!
The first post in the thread listed below describes how to update the PRL using the demo of CDMA Workshop. You will have to follow the instructions to setup CDMA Workshop in the thread covering how to get your MSL#. If you have the PRL you want to install you can use that method.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744479
The powers that be have newbies like myself locked down so we can't post live links, even links that lead to other pages on this site so this is the best I can do.
foopy said:
The first post in the thread listed below describes how to update the PRL using the demo of CDMA Workshop. You will have to follow the instructions to setup CDMA Workshop in the thread covering how to get your MSL#. If you have the PRL you want to install you can use that method.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744479
The powers that be have newbies like myself locked down so we can't post live links, even links that lead to other pages on this site so this is the best I can do.
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Thanks. I've seen this posted somewhere else on here and another forum. The issue is if your on the go and dont have access to a pc then your stuck. That ##775# hack could be done right from your phone within a a few minutes and a reset. The fact they disabled this and the ##4636# hack I'm sure wasnt coincidental.
So I have had the EVO since launch day. Came from using a Blackberry. I really must say the EVO rocks. Only complaint thus far is the battery life as I am a heavy phone user. Sedio here I come.
Anyway I used Unrevoked to root my phone about a week after I bought it. I know Unrevoked is not a real root per say, but it did what I needed, allowed me access to using wireless teather. I have kept everything stock for the most part. I have not accepted any updates what so ever since the day I used Unrevoked. I now feel its time to become a real EVO user and root my phone the right way. I am going to use simple root as it seems to be a easy way for me to root as I am still new to this Android thing and dont really want to brick my phone.
I have been researching the ROM's (thanks to all the great dev's out there and their hard work!!!)
Still not sure which one I will try once I root my phone as there are lots to choose from, but I am sure I will find one that rocks.
Now for my question regarding the radio updates.
Do most ROM's come with the radio updates already or is this something I have update in addition to installing a new ROM?
If I have to update the radio's where can I find the latest and greatest updates at?
I guess I am going to have this same question about the Kernal's as well. Do most ROM's come with the Kernal needed or will I have to update as well?
Thanks for the help guys. In the meanwhile I will continue to read and try to make use of the search tool on the site.
Thanks
Ralhaz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Just flash from recovery. Roms dont include them as far as I know. Flashing a new rom wont overwrite the radio either. Most roms come with the stock HTC kernel. Some use one of netarchy's or king's kernels. Just flash those over the rom. Flashing new custom roms will overwrite your current kernel with the one included in the rom.
Just a warning: When you flash a radio, the phone will reboot a couple of times before it's done. Just let it go until you're at the lock screen waiting to swipe in. Never pull the battery if you think it is stuck. Otherwise, there's really not much danger in flashing new ROMs, radios, or kernels. Just make your backup before you do anything, wipe from recovery before you flash ROMs, and do your flashing from recovery, don't mess with ROM Manager.
Thanks for the input guys. I will attempt to root and flash a ROM maybe later tonight or tomorrow.
So just so I am clear, most ROM's will have the Kernal needed so not much to worry about there.
But what about the Radio updates? Are they included with the ROM's? or do I have do update them separate?
If I do have to update them separate where can I find the latest and greatest at?
Thanks again for all your help
Ralhaz
Unrevoked 3 is real root and gives nand unlocked, add forever and you're good to go with any ROM you like.
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BTW if you simple root you will loose the PRI you have and get 1.34
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Roms will not include the latest radios.There is a thread in the development forum that has all of the latest 3g and Wimax radios.
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Thank so much for the info. Got the updated radio files.
I guess my last question would be this.
If I simple root and my PRI goes down to 1.34 is this a problem?
Not sure I understand what the PRI is all about just yet.
Thanks
Ralhaz
Hello there,
I have been lurking these forums for a while now, I originally planned on getting an Evo around july but stuff happened and so ive been putting it off till now. I just ordered it off SERO so yay, super excited…but to the point. I read these forums everyday when the evo came out up until mid july when I knew I wasn’t getting one so I knew about that cdma trick to improve battery life and rooting via toast etc etc. However, skimming through the threads I see Froyo is officially out now and there are many types of ways to root out there. Also , there are tons of roms compared to a few months ago.
I understand there are many threads out there (ive read a lot + all the stickied threads) but I just want to get some outside input before I go to town on my phone when it arrives. I know these questions have probably been answered in some form or another on this forum and XDA but honestly, there is an overwhelmingly large amount of information and I just need answers to a few simple questions and I hope people understand that.
1. The first thing I want to do is root the phone and flash a custom rom before downloading apps and entering phone numbers and the such. Is this a good idea? Or should I enter my stuff and download my apps and use Titanium Backup (do people still even use that?) to save my crap before I root and flash?
2. The order of flashing a custom rom would be …root (unrevoked 3.2.1) > nandroid backup > flash custom rom. Is this Correct?
3. I also noticed that some of the custom roms require different versions of hboot (whatever that is) and older versions of software. I don’t want to deal with the downgrading stuff if possible, so my question is which rom can be flashed on the most up-to-date version of froyo? Any suggestions? (i notice a lot of people use Fresh)
4. Ive also noticed that some roms require you to update the radio/PRI or whatever. What exactly is the radio? I googled it and it has to deal with signals and stuff…does that mean the custom roms break the radio and I have to update to a custom radio for me to get reception/data?
Thanks for your time.
i got the Evo when it came out, when i got the evo in the mail i went to the sprint both on base and transfer my numbers from my tp2 to the evo..... then i rooted it " the old fasion" way.. i cant speak for unrevoke but i guess you can do that... and yes, you want to do a nandroid back up before you flash your 1st rom.. if things dont work you can use that to restore your phone... once you have at least one nandroid you dont have to do one every time you flash a custom rom... it doesnt hurt to have more than one back up tho.. keep some in your pc incase your sdcard get damaged or lost.
as far as apps and setting the phone... i dont think it matters.... the contacts get backed by gmail ( if you set that up, you should)... the apps you can use tittanium ( what i use, paid) but the onces you buy will be in your download section from the market place. havent lost one app yet but you have to allow goggle to sync with your phone... you can also use dropbox and other places.. a lot of options.
as far as radio goes.... you can upgrade everything one time.. some roms may include it but most wont... if its a stock rooted rom then it may include the radio since its something new. but you can find everything seperate..
flashing a rom wont change the radio endless it says it will.
anyways, hopes this helps and didnt comfuse you more lol
As soon as you get it charged up and activated .... root it. Don't do any updates, downloads, etc....
You are on the right track. You have done the smart thing, doing all of your homework.
As far as I am concerned Fresh is the only way to go on the rom
The radio and pri need to be updated for 2 main reasons 1. The fresh rom that you use whether it is the latest and greatest or an older version will be tweaked for a certain radio and pri version. You will find that on the site instructions. And 2. Updating the radio and pri will increase battery life and signal.
Ofcourse this is just my opinion and you will get many more I am sure........ get the latest/greatest FRESH you will love it
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hello,
thanks for the quick replies.
regarding the radio issue, after reading the stickied thread in this forum "Common misconceptions and other useful information" im a little scared to mess with the radio. I notice that Fresh has a radio update posted so my question is this...Are all radio updates the same? like the one posted on fresh's website will work with most roms or just his particular rom? I also live in an area with 4g coverage and i plan to use it! so i definately dont want to lose that (its why im not considering using CM6)
sorry, im trying hard to understand how this works...this will be my first smartphone ive ever had so there is a learning curve for me. thanks again for your time.
The radio thing has me worried too, I don't want to lose 4G. I rooted mostly to get the bloat out and to gain 5 point multitouch. I'm still not positive what to do to NOT break my 4g and lose my radio ID.
I did the unrevoked root a little while ago, quick an easy. OP should do it right away.
I'm on current Fresh 3.3.0.1 with KingKlick CFS #10 custom kernel and all the updated radios. Everything working great for me. Definitely nandroid first before you flash any custom rom. And if you have apps + data that you want to save, use either Ti or MyBackup Pro to restore them. After you do a full data/factory + cache + dalvik cache wipe, flash the new rom then boot into it to make sure everything is running. Reboot back into recovery and flash the current radio update. By the way, I recommend Amon Ra recovery for all your flashing needs because it just works better than ClockworkMod imho.
Shameless plug: Check out Jabbawalkee's MattedBlues theme because it's just sexy like that but there are definitely other theme options out there besides the stock Sense look.
No not all radios are created equal. Usually the rom that you will be flashing will tell you what radio to use. The Fresh rom has always made strides to be efficient and up to date. I have yet to have any problems with any of the versions he has put out. Don't let the words radio, baseband, services, etc... worry you. flashing them are simple and and painless. No worries!
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Unrevoked + forever is the hands down easiest and best way to root your phone except it leaves you with clockwork recovery which isn't as good as ra recovery but that is a very simple switch. Pretty dman simple on a pc just install drivers and click on root. Then copy forever to you SD card and flash it. Even easier on MAC no drivers required.
ok great thanks for all the input guys i really appreciate it!
Didn't see anyone answer your hboot question yet. Here's how that works. Hboot is the screen that let's you actually run recovery (either amon ra or clockwork), and the only Rom that requires a certain version of it (as far as I know) is cyanogen. This is important, because you can't restore a nand backup that you made on version 0.93 (which I think is the current one) when you're running version 0.76 (which is what you would have to change to in order to flash CM). So if you backup on 0.93, then change to 0.76 to load cm, you'll have to reinstall 0.93 in order to restore that backup. This is apparently pretty tough to do correctly, although I think its been simplified over the last few days. Note that once you go to 0.76 there isn't really any reason to change back to 0.93 unless there's a specific nand backup that you want to restore.
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