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I have an iPhone 3GS at the moment and I am looking to sell it and buy the desire. How does the battery life compare to the 3GS. Has anyone on this forum come from a 3GS to a desire?
I've borrowed an iPhone GS and I think the battery life is better on the GS to the Desire. My Desire is new so I am fiddling a lot with it across all it's goodies from surfing to Satellite stuff to wireless and I'm getting through battery life in a few hours right now. It was almost the same with the 3GS for me but the 3GS still lasted longer.
I do have to say though, that the Desire is new and typically with new phones, it needs a few updates until the manufacturers sort things out with updates and battery life is managed a little better. The 3GS has been out a while and has had those tweaks already so the battery life is better overall than the Desire.
In Desire's favour, the one thing that is good to know is that if you know you are going to use it a lot, you can go to play.com and buy a spare battery to take around with you.
or get one of these lol
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/01/seidios-3200mah-battery-for-nexus-one-the-results-are-in/
You just need to configure your Desire better, the battery is more or less the same as in the 3GS, apple doesnt have the ability to have several things running in the background and all downloading at once. With the android you can run a lot of background apps that will drain the battery faster.
I would say that they are about the same i.e. Not great.
Both will last a full day of average use but that's about it. They both need to be charged every night.
A spare battery is an idea for the Desire but the back cover is a bit too flimsy in my opinion for this to be a preferred option.
Battery management is a better idea. i.e. Reduce the brightness, turn off wi-fi, bluetooth and gps if not needed. Don't use 3G. Reduce update frequency of email, weather apps. etc. I find with my use that I don't need to do anything other than switch off wi-fi, gps and bluetooth when I'm not using them to get a days use but it depends how much use you make of the phone.
That's good my iPhone battery is ok for me anyway better than my g1 anyway. Looks like the desires battery won't be a problem.
Hi all, I'm thinking of changing over to the Desire Z because I blog a lot on the go, and virtual keyboards dont really cut it for me.
I'd like to hear some comparison between the two, like how fast is the UI on the Desire Z compared to the N1 or Desire. Can you guys gimme some opinions about the screeb quality and keyboard?
Thanks in advance
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I happily sold my Nexus One for the G2 (which I have a Desire Z ROM on) and couldn't be happier. IMO, the screens are about equal. I don't miss my Nexus' screen at all, and the keyboard is phenomenal.
As for speed, that's obviously going to depend on a number of variables. I run my G2 overclocked to 1.2GHz most of the time and have no complaints in terms of speed. I get 12-15h of moderate use out of the battery at this speed, so that works for me. You can currently safely overclock the G2 to 1.5GHz, though you'll see a drain in battery at those speeds. The G2 out of the box even (800MHZ) is pretty snappy, comparable to the Nexus.
In short, you won't be disappointed.
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You can currently safely overclock the G2 to 1.5GHz, though you'll see a drain in battery at those speeds.
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I'm at 1.5 Ghz on CM6.1 and I would say I get better battery life than stock (.5% drain per hour idle, average of 1.5% drain per hour with moderate use).
I know that is is probably a stupid or anmoying question, but what do you mean by moderate use?
I myself have twitter notifications every 10 minutes, plus some browsing, music playback and i often open the facebook app to update my notifications
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emmib said:
I know that is is probably a stupid or anmoying question, but what do you mean by moderate use?
I myself have twitter notifications every 10 minutes, plus some browsing, music playback and i often open the facebook app to update my notifications
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Not a stupid question at all.
Moderate use (average, per hour):
- 20 texts (incoming/outgoing)
- 10 minutes of web
- 5 minutes of phone call
- Facebook app (4 or 5 times)
- 10 minutes (or so) of games.
Man, it would seem like I'm always on my phone, but I'm not. Can't exactly play Angry Birds while sitting across the meeting table from the boss.
But in all seriousness, I went a full 48 hours and used 80%. That's with about an hour and a half total worth of PSX and SNES emulators.
I upgraded from a Nexus One (which is now my wifes phone) to the G2.
Impressions out of the box, pre-root/CM6.1:
At stock 800Mhz, i could immediately tell it was "snappier" then the Nexus One OC'd at 1.3Ghz. Meaning, scrolling from homescreen to homescreen, live wallpapers, opening of applications, running graphic intense games, etc, etc ... All felt smoother/quicker.
The BIG difference i noticed (again, out of the box) was the multi-touch/touchscreen.
Take Maps for instance, or even pinch zooming in the browser. This experience was GREATLY improved. I think this is due to the type of screen, more-so then a software or CPU speed improvement. Pinch Zooming, or two finger tilting, or two finger rotating in maps was MUCH more reactive.
Impressions out of the box, post-root/CM6.1:
Wholey cows this thing is FAST. OC'd to 1.5mhz, this thing is insanely fast. That's it in a nutshell, FAST.
Granted, i only had the thing out of the box for a grand total of about 5 minutes before i began my rooting and throwing CM on it, but still.
Hard Keyboard: For me (and I'm no blogger, i type on this thing occasionally) its no big deal. I came from a G1 to the Nexus One, and didn't miss the Hard Keyboard, and going form the Nexus One to this G2, I'm not so great full i have one either. However, there are times I'm thankful i have one, and it comes in handy, definitely. For someone like you, who probably types a lot on the phone, I would have to imagine it would make a huge difference. As far as typing on the keyboard, its not terrible. The biggest complaint for most, is the lack of room above the top row of keys and the phone hardware, leaving no room for fingers to type easily on the top row.... is GONE on this phone. The hinge design allows for PLENTY of room for the top row of keys to be easily pressed. The other big complaint about hard keyboards is the lack of a dedicated Number row, which this phone falls victim to. You can easily double-tap the ALT key to switch to the numbers, and to me its not that big of a deal, but some hard core hard-keyboard users may find this a bother.
Okay, so coming form a Nexus One, which i absolutely LOVED.... actually, ill say still love, am i happy with the G2... DEFINITELY.
If there was ONE thing i HAD to point out that i like the Nexus One more-so then the G2, it would be Weight, and Thickness. Both these things are caused by the hard keyboard, and the G2 is significantly heavier then the Nexus One. Can i get over it, definitely. But anytime i hold my wife's phone now (remember, she has the Nexus One now), I'm like wow, this thing really WAS light and thin.
Conclusion, you'll be happy with the G2.
Thanks dude! That was EXACTLY what I wanted to know!
Guys thanks a million for your help, you cleared up a great many things for me!
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Thanks, now I know exactly what people mean by it, and thanks for the info on the battery!
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Hi Guys,
I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.
But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.
Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?
Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????
Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.
After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
circleofomega said:
Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...
Again, Thanx!
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.
But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
I don't Say ! ^^
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depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.
Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.
I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.
HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.
1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.
Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!
Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
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When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life
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I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.
just my 2c
andyharney said:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??
There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.
Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?
Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
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I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:
'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'
Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?
I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?
You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.
The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.
What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.
The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.
Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"
...say HTC.
It can all be found here at techradar.phones
Well what do you guys think? Are you satisfied by the battery considering the HOX's demanding setup? Mine lasts around ten hours with moderate to heavy use. Which is similar to my last phone, the SGS i9000. I found this quite acceptable.
HTC are a very reputable company, and often listen to their consumers (hence HTCdev). Is this latest move a shy away from that?
Would be great to hear everyones thoughts.
then...time to wait for mugen
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More than happy with mine. 2 days on battery with average use. 3 hours screen time during that time, with an hour using sat nav.
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Im happy with mine 8.5 hours mod use data off wen not in use my gs2 lasts 10 galaxy nexus lasts 9 so it aint really that bad plus the screens awesome
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I'm still waiting to see what mine will manage, before the update I had 11 hours. Come off charge this morning and this is what's left...
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The screen is such a power hog!
Eddzz!! said:
The screen is such a power hog!
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It is considering my brightness is on the lowest, and all network is off minus WiFi.
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I'm not having an high end smartphone to constantly be in battery problems.
I consider the battery usage as a real annoying problem with no option to buy extra batteries.
Who buys a smartphone to use as less as possible???
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Happy here with battery life of One X, battery is even better than it was in SGS2. For me at least. Around ~36h battery time while SGS2 ~30 hours when I was using it.
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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lawrence750 said:
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Where's the like button? I really do wonder what people expect. Get a Motorola if you want the battery to last you for a week.
More than happy with the battery life of the handset. Lasts me from when I leave home in the morning till when I get home at night and then some. Beats having to charge my phone during the day like on my DHD.
People need to get used to charging their phone every night, really don't understand people's issues with that. What's the big deal?
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I know!!! My DHD is on the charger every night! It doesn't bother me
Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
Mine's OK, not great. I really didn't expect it to be. It'll be interesting to see how the S4 One XL does now that it's shipping. If it's about the same (with LTE off) than it's not a Teg3 issue. If it's dramatically better than we know it's not the display alone causing battery challenges.
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.
Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.
Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps
Cheers!
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Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
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4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.
It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.
If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.
Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"
If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.
did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?
Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .
I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.
And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !
thats my 2p, thanks for reading
james
Johnny0906 said:
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegrra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best and first quad-core phones.
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I have had my htc desire hd for nearly 2 years and quite simply its the best phone I have ever owned. Everything more or less works well except GPS which is slow to get a lock. I am seriously considoring upgrading to the HTC one X. I bought the galaxy note but returned it after 1 week. Although tthe screen was outstanding, unfortunately I wasnt a fan of the interface and decided that having got used to htc I would stick with it.
Can someone post a review of the one X compared to a desire HD they may have owned. In particular in these critical areas:
1) Battery life
2) Browsing experience
3) general speed/lag issues
4) speed of GPS lock
Thanks
Having upgraded from a Desire HD:
1) Battery Life - A significant improvement but you will find this to be the case with most phones as the DHD battery life was especially poor.
2) Browsing experience - much faster rendering, increased screen estate helps too
3) general speed/lag issues - The phone feels much faster will less stuttering in sense.
4) speed of GPS lock - again much faster than the DHD and better GPS reception overall.
In addition to this the phone is so much lighter due to the materials in the case and the screen is a massive improvement it looks fantastic and will blow your socks off compared to the DHD.
Two words (DO IT)
You will not look back.
Much better in every way..........
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mdalek said:
Having upgraded from a Desire HD:
1) Battery Life - A significant improvement but you will find this to be the case with most phones as the DHD battery life was especially poor.
2) Browsing experience - much faster rendering, increased screen estate helps too
3) general speed/lag issues - The phone feels much faster will less stuttering in sense.
4) speed of GPS lock - again much faster than the DHD and better GPS reception overall.
In addition to this the phone is so much lighter due to the materials in the case and the screen is a massive improvement it looks fantastic and will blow your socks off compared to the DHD.
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I too have come from the Desire HD, and I can say - I thought the Desire HD was the best phone on the market until I got my One X.
Once you get your HTC One X you will see a massive improvement with the screen quality, size, weight and overall speed & quality of it in general.
It'll be the best phone you'll own to date.
Go for it.
One Xs screen is just gorgeous compared to the DHD
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the battery sucks compared to the dhd battery, I had much better battery on the dhd, but everything else is better on the htc one x
mox123 said:
the battery sucks compared to the dhd battery, I had much better battery on the dhd, but everything else is better on the htc one x
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The DHD has the same battery life issues when it was first released.
this gets resolved over time with software and kernel updates.
Don't worry about the battery
Biggest upgrade would be the screen that would be the most noticeable. I went from DHD > SGS2 > HOX. And the speed.
The screen is just something you need to see! With the HD resolution it's far superior than the DHD screen.
Battery life will vary but generally it ranges from being poor to being good depending on usage and signal and such.
Go for it as long as you don't mind it has no removable battery and no microSD card slot. If those 2 issues are not important to you then upgrade without a doubt.
Have to agree with everyone else. Compared to literally all other phones, unless you see the One X screen you really don't know just how good it is. I was beyond pleasantly surprised, its stunning and really should be the benchmark for all screens in future.
As for the rest, the phones fast as you would expect, my battery life is absolutely fine as I only keep data on when I know I need it, otherwise its WiFi 100% of the time pretty much. I get well over a day's worth of battery doing this with 60% being on screen time playing games or web browsing.
Hello my friend,
I've had the Desire HD, changed for Sensation XE to finally end up with a One X.
1. Battery was improved but DHD battery either was much better with custom roms and kernels (I would recommend Revolution or Cyanogenmod);
2. Screen-wise it's so much more than Sensation's qHD not to mention the good old DHD. I'm flabbergasted
3. Nice touch, feeling and not heavy at all. In the hot summer days I would never ever want a heavy DHD in my jeans pockets again.
A real bummer it's the lack of memory card slot. Really HTC? I hate those guys for dropping that right now when the microsd cards prices went down.
Two chapters are not covered yet: GPS and audio quality (I'm a die hard lossless fan and I have the unbelievable Sennheiser ie8i headphones so if you're interested I'll keep you posted on this also).
P.S. In order to summarize my rant above: The DHD could be a WWII Panzer. Meanwhile HTC One X it's an UFO.
I had to go back to my DHD for a few days after using my HOX for a week. It was hard to believe that I used to think the DHD screen was crisp lol
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Will loss of micro SD slot be a major problem? All my photos,videos,music are stored on it currently
No, as you can stick it all onto Dropbox
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I upgraded from a DHD and I most say that the screen on one x completly outcompetes the DHD, big plus! Also I love the 25 gb dropbox space
yup dhd sucks compared. i've gotta use mine again now whilst the one x is off for repair.
Even with custom ROM & Kernel the DHD still feel sluggish sometimes. (Or perhaps partly because it was AOSP ICS ROM put together without HTC's help) That's never been a problem will my HOX so far, even if reviews say it's not as smooth as HOS or SGS3.
Battery life was better for me on DHD with custom kernels. Very much hope for something similar on HOX soon.
GPS and screen - HOX better in every way.
And the camera! Image Sense really is a joy to use.
Go for it!
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Here I am again, on subject of gps and audio quality:
1. GPS reception its ultra fast and the good old DHD can do nothing in this area. I have full reception of 5-7 satellites in a matter of seconds at 1 meter from my window, several floors above me and tall building in front. There is simply no room for improvement left there.
2. Audio is top notch. I listen to lossless music (FLAC) on Power Amp with Sennheiser ie8i. A nice touch its that one could stop now the beats audio thingy that was sadly always on in the Sensation XE for instance. Ive read in reviews that only the S3 has a better/flatter frequency domain response. Oh well. I am glad for myself that the audio quality gap between the iPhone and the rest of the world disappeared at last...
An ugly side of the ICS 4.0x os is that ringtone volume and notification volume are now connected. This is quite a stupid PIA thing and if somebody knows some solution to this I would gladly love to hear about.