So today I went to the Sprint store to have my screen replaced, but upon doing so, somehow the technician made it so the device will no longer power on. She tried 2 different screens, so I said to just put the orignal back on so I at least have a working phone. The device still does not power on. I've noticed that the power button no longer has a clicking sense to it like it once did and it now easily sinks into the device. It seems like it just sinks right into the phone, but no matter how hard you press it, or how fine you press it (fingernail) it just won't turn on. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is there anything I can do to fix this myself?
Why did you let the tech give you a phone that doesn't power on? Get a full replacement phone. I'm sure it's just a spring clip or something that didn't get replaced quite right, but whoever did the service obviously has insufficient skills to be performing repairs.
Besides, if you try to take your phone apart yourself, you'll void the warranty.
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Why did you let the tech give you a phone that doesn't power on? Get a full replacement phone. I'm sure it's just a spring clip or something that didn't get replaced quite right, but whoever did the service obviously has insufficient skills to be performing repairs.
Besides, if you try to take your phone apart yourself, you'll void the warranty.
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1. There are no Evos in stock. They are currently waiting for them to get back in stock so they can order a replacement. The problem is I'm away on business and need a phone.
2. The phone has already been opened, there would be no way for them to tell whether I did it or the techs did. I have a receipt for the repair order if it comes to them accusing it was me.
3. I'm looking for ways to get my phone powered back on. I appreciate your help, but I really just need answers to my question, nothing else.
call mgt or walk in and talk to mgt. the store tech made the device nonfuntional, then the store needs to ensure that you have a communications device for your trip and a brand new EVO waiting for you when you return to your home city. perhaps you don't travel with a EVO this trip.
i don't understand why you would walk out of the store without a phone given the situation you describe. i would strongly advise having a different tech break down and rewiew your EVO. perhaps she put it together wrong (if you're lucky).
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call mgt or walk in and talk to mgt. the store tech made the device nonfuntional, then the store needs to ensure that you have a communications device for your trip and a brand new EVO waiting for you when you return to your home city. perhaps you don't travel with a EVO this trip.
i don't understand why you would walk out of the store without a phone given the situation you describe. i would strongly advise having a different tech break down and rewiew your EVO. perhaps she put it together wrong (if you're lucky).
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She tried it 3 different times, I doubt she would have messed up 3 different times. Also, do you not understand that Evos are still sold out...everywhere! I walked out of the store without a phone because they didn't have one to give me. What's hard to understand about that?
I also don't understand how you can just leave the store without a functioning phone. They (in my eyes) bricked the phone, meaning it doesn't turn on at all. They should have scoured the area, calling other stores, repair centers in the area to get you a working evo (while you're waiting for a replacement).
I hope things work out for you. I'm waiting for a replacement phone and the store told me it would be less than a week wait. I had them activate an old phone for me (that I brought with me)
And even if they don't have an Evo to give you, they should be able to give you something comparable as a temp phone. You could almost have a legal issue here if their screw-up is causing your work to suffer.
If you're hell-bent on fixing it yourself, just open it up and see what you can see. Or I think there is a tear-down video somewhere from when the Evo first launched. Google it.
Well I opened it up and sure enough the button for the power was broken inside. The part that the external button presses into was snapped off somehow. So now the external button doesn't contact it. Not sure how the tech could not have discovered that herself, considering she did it. First I tried to remove it and replace it with one from the volume rocker, but decided that for now, I'm leaving the two top screws on the phone removed and using a needle to trigger the power button.
I at least have a working phone and can hold out for a replacement when they get back in stock. Yes I shouldn't have left with a phone, but this is Sprint. When asking about a loaner, they told me they could only replace it with the same phone, even for loan. It just baffles me how this company could not leave enough phones in the warehouse for replacements. It's quite simple Sprint, stop being greedy and shipping out every phone for sales. That way you can service the current customers you have that have already been paying you. It's no wonder you keep losing customers each quarter.
They "serviced" you alright.
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She tried it 3 different times, I doubt she would have messed up 3 different times. Also, do you not understand that Evos are still sold out...everywhere! I walked out of the store without a phone because they didn't have one to give me. What's hard to understand about that?
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i understand that when i was in sales my phone was as important as the shoes on my feet. i would not have walked out without a working phone. evo or not. the sprint folks can fix their screwup.
whats hard to understand is why you cowed under and meekly walked out the door.
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hate to judge, but I kinda agree. prolly would have figuratively broken that place up before I left. at the very least, the mgr would have gone home tonight and kicked his dog
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i understand that when i was in sales my phone was as important as the shoes on my feet. i would not have walked out without a working phone. evo or not. the sprint folks can fix their screwup.
whats hard to understand is why you cowed under and meekly walked out the door.
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I didn't. What part of they didn't have any do you people not understand?
"Oh yes, well I'm going raise my voice act all mighty and tough a demand you just whip up an Evo right here and now. Come on, don't try to bull**** me, I know there must be someone here that can build those outside of it's normal manufacture plant!" I didn't meekly walk out the door, they just didn't have any. You may take the I'm an asshole customer approach, but I've learned through many years in retail that it doesn't get you anywhere. Just like it wouldn't have gotten me anywhere cause again, ranting and raving isn't magically going to make an Evo pop up in that store.
you're a good person. I wouldn't have left the store without an equivalent replacement
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you're a good person. I wouldn't have left the store without an equivalent replacement
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You probably would have, because they didn't have any. Also, I was probably 75% sure I could fix it myself, or at least get a temp fix going like I describe I've done. It wasn't worth the hassle to me knowing I could fix it within the hour myself.
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okay, my charging port just broke, so i can't connect to usb, and i have 30 percent battery, and i want to take this to sprint tomorrow, but its rooted. i want to RUU, but i cant because i can't connect via USB. how do i get rid of my root?
You could probably get away without unrooting it, if you just bring it in with a dead battery and say the mizcro USB port is broken. Lots of people on here have said that they returned their Evos without the reps even looking at them.
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okay, my charging port just broke, so i can't connect to usb, and i have 30 percent battery, and i want to take this to sprint tomorrow, but its rooted. i want to RUU, but i cant because i can't connect via USB. how do i get rid of my root?
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might want to change the title of your thread so in the future it can be found easier when searching...
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You could probably get away without unrooting it, if you just bring it in with a dead battery and say the mizcro USB port is broken. Lots of people on here have said that they returned their Evos without the reps even looking at them.
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good info..
Well, When I worked at a "A" store for sprint for the last couple of years (A meaning service and repair with extremely high traffic) a broken port is considered physical damage and shouldn't be replaced at the store level....without you paying a fee, so if you have insurance your probably going to just end up paying 100$ and having them send you one anyway.
per policy.....
now... I mentioned that we were an A store because some of the third party repair stores or smaller ones will overlook some physical damage...hit or miss.
But policy says your boned.
just a thought.
second thought.... if you want DONT mention that the port is broken, and brick your phone by trying to flash it or something and let the battery die at the same time haha.
and go in and be like, yo man, my phone wont turn on.
third thought.... alot of sprint employees dont care or dont know WTF rooting your phone is, make it look stock and they arent going to check to see if its rooted, they will only notice if something is crazy looking..and even then just say oh yeah its a mod from the market i forget what its called...
I worked for sprint for 3 years... trust me, we don't care, be nice and you'll probably just be fine. stay away from the managers, more likely to send you away.
My store up here they know whay flashing and rooting is... only because they do it also.. the guy who sold me the phone told me about the free teethering by rooting... but didnt tell me to not update..
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I don't think they'll care. LOL. It's just rooting your choice + i think it's legal now ?
It is legal, but under the sprint protection and crap they say tampering and messing with the phone and what not, makes that all go away.
i expected something else... but you did get yourself in a pickle. my first instinct would be to fix it myself. sounds like you physically broke the connections to the usb plug? might just need a quick pass of a soldering iron. it's just that people are so quick to get rid of an electronic device when the fix can be so simple. -not saying thats your situation; it's only the thought in my head at the moment.
Rooting is legal with all insurance until u flash a software...anyway...broke USB port should b covered at store level...I've had my camera lens crack on previous phones and they got me a free replacement
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Sprint is ok with rooting/hacking/softmodding of their phones. At least the California branches are. They don't ebrace or encourage you to hack your phone, but if you walk in with one, they won't sent you packing even after they detected it. In the past, my HTC Touch's screen started going bad, so I brought it in to get it repaired. Right off the bat, the store manager knew it was softmodded; he actually questioned me about apps and compared his custom rom with mines. I thought it was weird, and feeling confident, I asked him isn't it against store policy to hack the phones? His exact words were: "No, we actaully support it. We, as well as every other users, knows, Sprint and manufacturers does not make quick enough updates; therefore, many users turn to developers for help. Sprint is begining to see that custom ROMs are benifiting more and more users. We want to be able to retain/gain customers instead of lose, even if that means a little sacrafice (in this case, phone hacking). As long as our customer are happy, we are happy." I was like "WOW, Sprint is cool with phone modding"!!! I had AT&T before and my sister currently has Verizon, and no way in hell were they this cool about phone softmodding. As far as rooting/installing custom rom goes, I just hope there's no mass mob of idioits who repeatedly bricks their phone and bring it in for warranty. It might be the only reason why Sprint would probably turn their heads away from accepting rooted/hacked phones.
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Rooting is legal with all insurance until u flash a software...anyway...broke USB port should b covered at store level...I've had my camera lens crack on previous phones and they got me a free replacement
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INCORRECT INCORRECT INCORRECT, Its people with your attitude that came into the store and gave me a nightmarish headache.
what in the world makes you think a physically damaged product is covered under a limited warranty? it is not.
you may have gotten lucky, or someone was stupid, or someone was really nice to you and replaced your phone because of the camera lens crack but dont continue the stupid cycle by saying "it should be taken care of" NO IT SHOULDN'T why cant people comprehend someone just did you a solid? dont expect it, appreciate it.
cause I will tell you right now its no ones policy anywhere to replace anything thats been damaged for free.
Physical damage always has and always will be directed to asurion unless someone feels like being nice to you, OR because the item is defective.
Broken camera lens and broken charging port DO NOT fall into that category.
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Sprint is ok with rooting/hacking/softmodding of their phones. At least the California branches are. They don't ebrace or encourage you to hack your phone, but if you walk in with one, they won't sent you packing even after they detected it. In the past, my HTC Touch's screen started going bad, so I brought it in to get it repaired. Right off the bat, the store manager knew it was softmodded; he actually questioned me about apps and compared his custom rom with mines. I thought it was weird, and feeling confident, I asked him isn't it against store policy to hack the phones? His exact words were: "No, we actaully support it. We, as well as every other users, knows, Sprint and manufacturers does not make quick enough updates; therefore, many users turn to developers for help. Sprint is begining to see that custom ROMs are benifiting more and more users. We want to be able to retain/gain customers instead of lose, even if that means a little sacrafice (in this case, phone hacking). As long as our customer are happy, we are happy." I was like "WOW, Sprint is cool with phone modding"!!! I had AT&T before and my sister currently has Verizon, and no way in hell were they this cool about phone softmodding. As far as rooting/installing custom rom goes, I just hope there's no mass mob of idioits who repeatedly bricks their phone and bring it in for warranty. It might be the only reason why Sprint would probably turn their heads away from accepting rooted/hacked phones.
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YMMV by location.
so i recently had issues with the usb port not working at all. i go into exchange it and of course, it looks nice and shiny. i wouldnt have cared much about it being a refurb except for the fact that the touch panel hits the center of the lcd screen making it blot and, light leakage on the bottom U part of the phone AND the worst part....they didnt clean the ear piece....so there was still grime in there....THAT is just unacceptable. i went in and they refused to replace it with another phone. they said all they would do was replace the touch panel. ARE U KIDDING ME?! they had no reaction to the whole "grime in the ear piece" at all....*sigh* before i call and tear them a new one, i'd like to know how people have handled or would handle calling sprint with an issue like this? thanks guys!
Did they show you the phone, or was it in a box? I would go back to them, and tell them its unacceptable and you would like either a better refurbished phone or a new one.
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Did they show you the phone, or was it in a box? I would go back to them, and tell them its unacceptable and you would like either a better refurbished phone or a new one.
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they just gave me the phone. i got home and was charging it cuz they gave me the same batter so it was dead. after an hour on the charger turned in on and started inspecting it and found all those issues. i called sprint earlier before going to the repair center and she said they had to give me a new phone and that they shouldnt have issued that phone without inspecting it. when i went back to the sprint repair store they told me, THEY, as an independent store, could not give me a new phone. insurance/TEP only allows them to give me refurbished ones. so i guess tomorrow i get to ***** at sprint and demand a new phone. if it comes down to it, i can always just say that i dont want their business anymore. their tone sure does change when that happens.
That is Sprint's policy as far as I know. If you are outside of the first 30 days then they can only issue refurbs. Bummer, I know. However, if someone on the phone at Sprint is telling you that you should get a new device as replacement, I would try to have them on the phone when you went into the Sprint store. That way, if the people at the store start to hem and haw you can just put the two ends of the problem together right then and there. I would save any threats for a last ditch effort.
I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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Thanks for the quick response! Yep, tried that. I thought maybe I had one of the USB port issues that didn't allow me to charge the phone, but alas, my wife's fully charged battery couldn't boot it (or do anything), and my battery worked fine in her Evo.
I also disassembled the phone to check solder connections both on the battery connector and the usb port... both looked totally fine.
Well, if you pay insurance on it you could always accidentally lose it and report it lost or stolen.... that's what I would do, but that's just me....
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Yeah, I'll weigh my options. I think I'll send it to HTC first. I really don't think they can read the internal memory in this condition. I think it is probably fried. It is too late for the Sprint TPE (warranty), but but I might be able to finagle a squaretrade warranty. It will take time though. I thought about having a friend list it in eBay as a buy it now for what a new one costs, buy it from him (he give me my money back), and wait whatever period squaretrade requires, and file a claim. They're great, and I should have bought a squaretrade warranty from day 1. I've had it on the two phones prior and had to use it on one of them. They're easy to deal with and cheaper than any other options. Plus, its more flexible since they don't replace the phone, they issue you a refund for it (which would give me the option of switching phones, not that I would).
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I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you certain the battery isn't fried? Also, make sure the SD card is fully seated and secure. With the battery OUT, connect your EVO to it's power supply and then reinsert the battery. Sometimes, after doing so, you will see the LED light up. If not, try again. If it still does not, try getting to the Hboot screen by pressing the down volume button while also pressing the power button.
I am pretty sure I tried that. I pulled battery while plugged in, put battery back, no difference. The first thing I thought was that it was a bad battery connection, because the phone has never worked with the battery out, but plugged in. The battery MUST be in to work. So I disassembled it to check the battery and USB connection solder points, and they look fine.
I called a reputable mobile phone tech and he said he has seen this a few times with rooted Android devices. He said he doesn't think they will be able to read the internal memory, or probably won't go through the effort it would require to (pull the internal memory out and put it in a reader).
Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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Going through HTC is going to be a waste of time. Their turn around time is 30 days... And thats if they dont discover the rooting and therefore actually replace it.
Your best bet is sucking it up and paying the $100 deductible for Asurion insurance... If you order on their website www.phoneclaim.com they will overnight for free. However I have heard of it being back-ordered, in which case you will either wait, or be one of the lucky guys who gets a brand new one.
In regards to them seeing your internal memory, I would say its 50/50. They can recover that sort of stuff, but at the same time, HTC is way more lenient with rooting/mods than other manufacturers.
Good luck
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Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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As it turns out, when you send your phone to HTC, you have to pull your battery cover, battery, microSD card, and any other "accessories" you have off, and keep them. They only want the phone without any of these items. I asked the guy, "you don't want me to ship the batter OR even the cover with the phone, but separate?" He said, "no, they are yours to keep. if you send them to us, they will not be returned." LOL! If they replace the phone, I'll have spare parts! Yaaay! I left my screen protector on it, in case they can fix it, they won't scratch it. Love my Evo y'all!
Yah the same exact thing happened to me when i first got my evo (the first day it came out). Absolutely no sign of life, but got it through best buy and just went back with no insurance or anything and she gave me another one on the spot.
Yeah if it won't even power, they won't bother. You are straight unless by some miracle they actually get it working.
TEP is a godsend.
I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"
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I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"
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That would be so barbaric and elementary - so many capitals and so much hostility!
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Wrong section, jackhole.
It will probably cost you $35 without the insurance. If one store doesn't work, try another.
Yeah, just smash it on the floor and claim a new one
$100.00 ..thats it.
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I had a feeling this was the wrong place to post this, but not sure where else to do it. General maybe?
SORRY! ;-P
I wouldn't have a problem if an admin moved it to the right place.
Do did you make a decision to send it in?
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Do did you make a decision to send it in?
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Yeah, with fingers and toes crossed.
Well, I don't think they'll find out. Cuz I'm in engineering, and they could try to overvolt the phone [in an attempt to turn it on] but too much a risk of frying the circuits. Also no sdcard so they can't see your files...and way too much work to disassemble...so I think you're good.
Thanks man, that really is reassuring. I'm kind of on pins and needles over this. I can't afford ANYTHING, much less to buy another phone (I was laid off Jan 1).
I've been desperately trying to learn to program in Java, for Android. Both should provide me with more flexibility financially. I'd rather work as a contractor than FTE any day, but sysadmin type work is hard to find these days. I didn't expect to enjoy programming as much as I am, which is a pleasant surprise. Java isn't so hard. ;-)
I hope to get my Evo replaced under warranty. Then I hope to get more income by the time the new Evo 3D comes out! Not to sideline this thread, but what do you guys think of that thing? I'm also wondering if the new Evo View 4G would work as a phone replacement, just using Google Voice to replace cell service. Most new cars have bluetooth built in, and otherwise can use a bt headset (even stereo headphone type), so you never have to hold it to your head anyway.
Sorry, I guess I spaced posting my results. The did not know out had been rooted. They just replaced the motherboard and sent out back.
Unfortunately, they downgraded me from hw version 003 to 002. There were also two soft key lights out and I sent it back. Even though I complained about the version difference they still put another v2 in it. I called US public relations and came close to getting a hwy v3 board in but in the end it didn't happen. All they really care is that they made the device work.
Moral of the story is, if your Evo is dead-dead, send it to htc, and now you know what to expect.
Friday night the charging port on my Evo decided to break. By break, I mean the OEM charger wont charge it, and the charger comes out really easily. Thankfully, I have a spare charger that works with it. So today I took it to a Sprint store and since I have full coverage they said they will fix it in about an hour. I come back to the store and I'm greeted with a contract and my phone (I was told I would be getting a replacement after the diagnosis but okay) and the contract stated that there was no physical damage and the charging port was fixed with solder. I signed and went on my merry way. I get home and went to see if it works, and they did absolutely nothing. I wasn't going to let this go so I called the store and demanded to know what was going on. The tech told me that; a). my phone is rooted. b). the screen has liquid damage (for the record I can't see anything) c). they can't replace it because of liquid damage and root.. I asked why I was lied to and told it was fixed. He said some bull**** answer to which I replied, "I SIGNED a contract and was told nothing was wrong, and that the phone was fixed" he hardly said a word. Here are my questions for you.
Will I be able to take it to a different store without issue? Is there a safe way to unroot? Don't want to risk bricking it. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks.
Wow what a douche. Yeah go to another store not filled with douches
Sprint should still repair rooted phones. It's their policy.
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The charging port is a known issue with the OG I had mine replaced and it was fully rooted, if you have a copy of the contract take it to the store and ask for the manager, or you could try another store
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I'd first try another Sprint store. Similar situation with me about having a rooted phone. I tried a different store and still no luck, so instead I returned the phone back to the stock ROM including the Spring Boot Animation and Stock HTC Evo 4G Splash Screen. After doing so, I tried again a week later and got it replaced. :good::laugh:
Good luck dude.:highfive:
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Friday night the charging port on my Evo decided to break. By break, I mean the OEM charger wont charge it, and the charger comes out really easily. Thankfully, I have a spare charger that works with it. So today I took it to a Sprint store and since I have full coverage they said they will fix it in about an hour. I come back to the store and I'm greeted with a contract and my phone (I was told I would be getting a replacement after the diagnosis but okay) and the contract stated that there was no physical damage and the charging port was fixed with solder. I signed and went on my merry way. I get home and went to see if it works, and they did absolutely nothing. I wasn't going to let this go so I called the store and demanded to know what was going on. The tech told me that; a). my phone is rooted. b). the screen has liquid damage (for the record I can't see anything) c). they can't replace it because of liquid damage and root.. I asked why I was lied to and told it was fixed. He said some bull**** answer to which I replied, "I SIGNED a contract and was told nothing was wrong, and that the phone was fixed" he hardly said a word. Here are my questions for you.
Will I be able to take it to a different store without issue? Is there a safe way to unroot? Don't want to risk bricking it. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks.
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You said you signed a contract,what was it for?Did you read it?I believe its some kind of release,releasing sprint from having to fix your phone,because it was modded,which breaks the warranty and any kind of tech support for the phone.You signed it now,so they dont have to help you.Thats why they lied to you in the store,they didnt want any problems in front of the other customers.
I only read the part on the side near where it said it was fixed. It went along the lines of "There was no psychical damage found, the port has been fixed with solder" etc. Honestly I don't think I screwed myself by signing it but I don't know.
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Even if that is the case, would I be able to go to a different store without an issue?
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I only read the part on the side near where it said it was fixed. It went along the lines of "There was no psychical damage found, the port has been fixed with solder" etc. Honestly I don't think I screwed myself by signing it but I don't know.
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You could always go back and ask for a copy of what you signed, or at least inquire as to what exactly it was you signed. Never hurts to ask. If they give you any crap, ask for the store manager and explain things to him/her, but keep your cool and don't act like an a$$.
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I would definitely try another store.
I had a 4G issue on in insured phone and unrooted it. Even though it worked out in the long run I was annoyed that I waited an hour to have the privilege to have a person open my phone to say ah yeah we can fix that and then required me to wait another 1 hour for another person to say ah yeah we do not fix 4G here even though the manager told me that they did. I called customer service during the 2nd hour and did not even know which sprint store was the repair facility and had no idea about the store that I was in untill I gave them the store number. They sent out my phone, I came back 3 days later and @2:00 per instructions, waited and then was told to wait some more since they were not sure if it was in or not.
Anyway I can understand a water issue but this idea that you have insurance and that they may or may not help and the stroke around is lame. They do not seem to have any issues collecting the money. It is also lame that they pull any policy issues since your contract is the back of your signed receipt and that does not include any of these contractual details.
I'd like to share with you all my tale of rom flashing gone horribly wrong. It's really only important for 2 pieces of misinformation that I've seen kicking around the forums. First, the story.
I had already rooted my Telus Galaxy S3 (SGH-i747M), but was still running stock. I started looking around for compatible roms running JB, but didn't have much luck (finding ones that support the Canadian version is not easy). At the same time, I had to update and reset my old Galaxy S2 for a relative who was taking it off my hands. I found a JB rom that was available for both the S2 and S3, from the same dev. I decided to try both out, downloaded them and copied the respective files to the S2 and S3, but quickly realized that the S3 version didn't support my Canadian phone. No problem, I'll leave the S3 as rooted stock.
I proceeded to flash and install the rom on my S2. Everything seemed to be going fine until the first reboot after flashing. The phone appeared to be completely dead. I tried putting the phone into download mode but it was completely dead and would not even show signs that it was plugged into a power outlet. Then, horror. Both my S2 and S3 are in Otterbox Commuter cases. They look very similar. At 1 in the morning in a dimly lit room, they look identical.
Yes. Like an idiot, I had installed the incompatible S3 rom to my Canadian S3. I had, in fact, hard bricked my phone. I set aside my grief for 10 minutes and got the S2 done, as that was the original goal of this adventure. That worked fine. Of course.
For the next several hours and most of the following day, I searched and searched. I ended up on the posts talking about QHSUSB_DLOAD and how I'd screwed myself. No hope. Only option is either JTAG service or, and this brings me to misinformation #1, sending it back to Samsung. Why send a rooted and screwed phone back to Samsung? Well, the argument was that in all likeliness they wouldn't be able to tell and would probably just get it up and running anyway, perhaps with some nominal fee. Also, and here comes misinformation #2, there was a good chance that they would have to fix the problem in order to verify it.
Thankfully, in my only intelligent move in the last year, I had opted to choose the extra device protection offered by my carrier. Which meant, if it wasn't covered under warranty, I could get a brand new phone at a significantly reduced rate. But it did mean I had to send it in to Samsung first. And so, I walked into a carrier store and simply stated that it wouldn't power up. I neglected to mention the whole "I'm an idiot and accidentally installed an incompatible rom at 1AM". At the end of the day, they don't care anyway.
So I waited for almost 3 weeks before getting an update from my carrier. Samsung had looked at it and had a quote. I called the store to find out the cost. The phone needs a new mainboard. $350+ (I remember it being more than $350 but less than $400). Ah, no thank you. I politely declined and contacted the company providing the device protection. No problem, phone would be in my hands in 2-3 business days. I just need to send the damaged phone back when I get it from Samsung.
When the phone did get back from Samsung (within 24 hours, I might add), it came with a note to the carrier indicating that the phone had been rooted. The store manager actually made a good point too. If they were able to get it up and running to figure out it was rooted, why did it need a new mainboard? In all likeliness, they just wanted to teach me a $350+ lesson in voiding the warranty. So, what did I learn from this experience?
1) If you are rooting multiple phones, don't leave them all laying around in identical cases in a dimly lit room at 1AM.
2) Don't root phones in a dimly lit room at 1AM.
3) If you royally mess up your bootloader and it won't boot up, Samsung can still boot up that phone.
4) If that same phone is rooted, Samsung can not only tell, but ensure that the phone remains in it's screwed state for return.
5) They might just try and teach you a $350+ lesson; my guess is this ultimately depends on who looks at it (just like walking into an Apple store and walking out with a replacement, prior to Applecare+).
If anyone is curious why I didn't JTAG service the phone, it's simply because I can't afford to wait that long without a phone and the cost difference between JTAG and my device protection plan is not significant.
I think the are full of it.. I bet they did not even boot it up.
It would be possible for them to boot into download mode using a JTAG device, flash a working bootloader and at the very least load up a recovery environment terminal to check for root access. This is assuming of course they couldn't do this directly from their JTAG skipping having to fix the bootloader. Even so whats to stop them flashing a non working bootloader back to the device after they found what they are looking for. Not only would this not take very long, for the chance at turning 350 bucks work of profit vs a warranty fix im sure the techs are required to do this. This of course doesn't justify the obvious fact that a replacement motherboard is completely ridiculous. I'm of the opinion that it isn't right to cheat the manufacturers by getting warranty replacements on user created errors, however if they are attempting to gouge the end user instead of just charge them to fix the problem then i say all's fair. Lets face it, its not as if they don't take these warranty devices, especially the hard bricked ones, and simply fix the software, repackage and sell them again.
Exactly. I sent it in and fully expected some kind of charge, like labor, to get it working again. But not almost $400.
Yea, that is pretty lame. Its no different than a damaged led lens, which they charge the full LED assembly price of $175 instead of just fixing the problem. I just did this today on my phone for $20 and an hour or so of my time.
Wow that sucks. At least your other phone still works.
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Noob question:
Did you use Triangle Away? If they can just boot up the device and find if you have root access, is the point of Triangle Away just aesthetics?
I think that is more or less an easy give away the uneducated rep at the sales counter can look for.
i must confess i've rooted my phone dozens of times, and i can say that over 80% of those were in the dark after midnight.
Yeah, me too. It only takes one mistake though ...
yes rooting is such another .apk on the phone and certainly does not void the hardware warranty... Obviouisly they should charge you for software issues which you did.. did you get the phone back and have someone else jtag and fix it?
No. I have to send it back in to the company I have device protection through. But I have a new S3 already. JTAG would probably work, but it would take too long and isn't much cheaper than getting the new one.
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And yeah your full of it lmao. I had a galaxy s3 that just stopped working after being left in charger a night. Took it.to a rsi (Samsung official customer service and service center here in dallas Texas) and they said the motherboard was ruined. And it was stock non rooted. And it was covered under warranty and they had to create a new imei for the phone. So $350? Yeah right
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Sorry, I'm full of it? Your phone is non rooted, so your point is completely moot. Your phone legitimately died. Mine was screwed because of my own fault of flashing the wrong rom. There was and is nothing wrong with the motherboard on this phone. They were just trying to teach me a $350 lesson in rooting/voiding my warranty. But thanks for your insightful comment.
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Sorry, I'm full of it? Your phone is non rooted, so your point is completely moot. Your phone legitimately died. Mine was screwed because of my own fault of flashing the wrong rom. There was and is nothing wrong with the motherboard on this phone. They were just trying to teach me a $350 lesson in rooting/voiding my warranty. But thanks for your insightful comment.
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happened to be last night,only option was to JTAG it so sent it to MTV Mobile Tech Videos,sucks ass....will se how long i am in Texas and sent it to Bryan Texas.Hopefully Get it back albeit in one piece by Wednesday Meanwhile i have no Phone.
This is not to offend anyone or cause a flamme war.
But I don't think people should be lying to Samsung or any carrier, that 1. Your phone isn't bricked/rooted and 2. That you have no idea of what's going on and it just wouldn't turn on.
You as a user should hold all responsibility for a bricked device. Should they charge you 400$? Damn right they should.
That's one of the many reasons why Samsung and many other carriers either ship their devices with locked bootloaders or don't release source code. And don't say the whole "I played 500$ for my phone I get to do what I want," yeah you're completely right. But let's say you're changing your cars oil and the person being the n00b that they are decides to mix synthetic oil and convention oil in the engine. Oh no you're screwed. You dont take your car to the dealership saying "I don't know what happened the engine just won't turn on," THEYRE GOING TO KNOW lol, and expect to get a free car or not get charged for your miss hap. C'mon. If you screw up at least be responsible to pay some kind of fee to get it fixed. I despise folks who "try to play the system" because of them phones will be locked down in the near future. Now its illegal to carrier unlock your device unless its paid for because of folks like that. I understand the OPs mistake. Yeah I've done it. But I paid to fix my mistake. Be responsible people. We're grown ups here. Same with flashing stuff. Do a little reading before you start a thread on how you "bricked your phone" but its really stuck in a boot loop.
Just my 2ยข
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I couldn't read all of that I must have a terrible attention span these days.
But I did read that you were with telus, not at&t; but of course its morally wrong to lie to at&t but the way I see it is I pay them $2000+ over the course of my contract for this phone and if I want to take advantage of their warranty system to save $300-400 (a small fraction of what they're making off of 1 customer) and try my best to get a free replacement you can bet your ass I will.
Heisenberg420 said:
I couldn't read all of that I must have a terrible attention span these days.
But I did read that you were with telus, not at&t; but of course its morally wrong to lie to at&t but the way I see it is I pay them $2000+ over the course of my contract for this phone and if I want to take advantage of their warranty system to save $300-400 (a small fraction of what they're making off of 1 customer) and try my best to get a free replacement you can bet your ass I will.
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I see were you're getting at but you pay ATT for a service, not a phone. Those 300-400$ are for Samsung, which is different. They're kind of giving you a discount. Phone cost 700$ but they'll kindly replace it for 300$ they're being lenient about it.
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bionemesis said:
If anyone is curious why I didn't JTAG service the phone, it's simply because I can't afford to wait that long without a phone and the cost difference between JTAG and my device protection plan is not significant.
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JTAG costs $50 and has a two day return.
Did you try a jig to force the phone into download mode.?