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Using amon ra

Pardon my ignorance but I am trying to figure amon ra out. Do I have to have the zip files on the root of the SD card to flash them?
Reason is because it won't let me navigate to my download folder or my roms folder.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Pardon my ignorance but I am trying to figure amon ra out. Do I have to have the zip files on the root of the SD card to flash them?
Reason is because it won't let me navigate to my download folder or my roms folder.
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That is correct sir.

terrel_b said:
That is correct sir.
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Ok I thought so just wanted to be sure.
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Yup, and 1.9 or 2.x (whichever Amon_RA releases for EVO) will have folder navigation.

ok i tried putting amon ra recovery on my evo and i was unsuccessful. I was using clockwork at the time when trying to install amon ra. so since it didnt work i install valpaek rom cuz it has an option in settings to use amon ra recovery. now my question is if i change roms again will i lose the amon ra recovery once my new rom is installed? cuz i really dont wanna use clockwork mod...

Wrong They do NOT need to be on the root with AR.
I have a folder on my SD Card called XDA, and in there, I keep all my zip files, etc in sub folders labeled ROMS, APPS, Themes, Divers, etc....

sflecha35 said:
ok i tried putting amon ra recovery on my evo and i was unsuccessful. I was using clockwork at the time when trying to install amon ra. so since it didnt work i install valpaek rom cuz it has an option in settings to use amon ra recovery. now my question is if i change roms again will i lose the amon ra recovery once my new rom is installed? cuz i really dont wanna use clockwork mod...
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Don't use ROM Manager to flash AR.
Don't use ROM Manager, period, tbh, except to fix permissions.
Rename this file PC36IMG.zip and put it on the root of your SD Card, reboot to Hboot (Vol dwn/Power) then when it scan and asks you to update, hit yes and it'll install AR.
Then when it reboots, hit no after the scan and then hit Recovery

[Q] Which is better ClockworkMod or Amon-Ra recovery for EVO 4G recovery

I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??

aham83 said:
I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??
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Personally I like Amon-Ra better & I believe if you do a backup w/ one recovery you can't restore w/ another one.

IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.

aham83 said:
IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.
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It mounts your SD card on a conputer
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I like Amon RA better. I have never had a problem with it. I'm still running 1.8 with out any issues and I flash a lot.
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SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..

its all preferance, both do the same thing, and both are not interchangable when it comes to nandroid backups, that should answer everything

Amon is better looking, but clockwork has support from rom manager. Both backup your wimax keys now.
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aham83 said:
SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..
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Most people on the forums like Amon Ra more. It is less glitchy than CW and it has never let me down. (Clockwork mod totally messed up my Evo once)
But if you want to be a newb and use Rom Manager instead of flashing in the recovery, you need to use ClockworkMod.

I prefer Amon RA

I use Amon's because it is compatible with Fresh Evo.
Clockwork has issues with Fresh Evo. Also, being able to mount SD from recovery is very very nice.

I prefer Amon_RA for two reasons:
1) Its layout makes more sense to me.
2) Selective backup. In CMR you backup your /data, /cache, /system, /boot, wimax, and .android_secure folders/partitions every time, no matter what. In Amon_RA, I can tell it to just backup /data, /system, and /boot, cutting down the size of a backup from 30-50%, nevermind the time it takes to backup/restore. Let's face it, you DON'T need to backup your WiMAX every day, backing up cache is pointless (because the ROM/kernel can just rebuild it later), and .android_secure is on the SD card already (if your SD card goes, how are you going to restore your nandroid anyways?).
And a half-reason: Amon_RA still supports amend and edify scripts, so files like FORMAT_ALL.zip work for it, but not CMR.
Having said that, if you're looking for an easier time, and don't mind pruning your SD card more often, ClockworkMod Recovery is your choice, since it integrates completely with ROM Manager. You just select a ROM in ROM Manager, let it download, tell it to wipe and backup, then come back to your phone in a few minutes and you're in a new ROM.

Eh... i use amon-ra.. but i have had two backups that wouldn't successfully restore (Boot loop). Ended up losing some contacts..

+1 for amon-ra

Cw has given me nothing but problems

I will go out on a limb and say that I use CW, I tried RA, and honestly, I had nothing but problems with it. Looking at a lot of posts, people say that CW never wipes correctly, and I found out on my phone that RA never wiped correctly.
Really it's all a matter of choice though....use what works for you.

I just want to point out that you CAN use ROM Manager to flash even if you have Amon_Ra installed.
I have Ra installed and when a new CM7 Nightly come out, I get a notification, I tap it, and ROM Mananger does the rest.
There are other functions in ROM Manager that don't work unless you have Clockwork installed though, for sure. I just wanted to point that out!

Ra 1.8 has been flawless for me so far. I am moving on to try 2.3, but i don't really know if i want the new complications...
@drmacinyasha, if one goes the 2.3 route, after the initial backup of everything, what is the minimum you would recommend one backs up w/ all the options available?? /data, /system & /boot only? (as you posted)...and why?

Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???

aham83 said:
Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???
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I believe it is technically possible but highly discouraged. Some of the things you back up are unique to your phone. I wouldn't do it.

Help with Amon Ra please

Ok so I've been using clockwork since I rooted but now I want to switch to Amon Ra cause I hear its better. The recovery works because I can back up and flash stuff, but for some reason I can't restore, it always says something went wrong, check the recovery log. Is it because I rename the backups?

guih said:
Ok so I've been using clockwork since I rooted but now I want to switch to Amon Ra cause I hear its better. The recovery works because I can back up and flash stuff, but for some reason I can't restore, it always says something went wrong, check the recovery log. Is it because I rename the backups?
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It could be. If you rename a backup, it cannot have any spaces in the name, or any odd characters. I suggest renaming it to something simple, with no punctuation, and no spaces. Try that, and see if it'll restore.

didnt work :/

you arent trying to recover CWM backups with RA are you?

No, these are backups done through Amon Ra

guih said:
No, these are backups done through Amon Ra
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What options did you select when creating the backup? You may want to try re flashing your recovery, and see if it works after that. Sometimes reflashing the recovery can clear up a bunch of odd recovery related issues.

k2buckley said:
What options did you select when creating the backup? You may want to try re flashing your recovery, and see if it works after that. Sometimes reflashing the recovery can clear up a bunch of odd recovery related issues.
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For one of them I backed up all of it (clicked every check) and for another I only backed up the original 3 it selects for you; neither of them worked... Ok I'll try that

When you make a backup using amon RA, the name of the nandroid appears as such: BDAS-20110509-0440. The prefix tells you what was backed up. For instance, the BDAS in the above example tells me that I made a backup of the boot, data, android.secure and system. Because I flash a lot of roms, I rename my backups in this manner: BDAS-SALVAGEMOD-0440. If you don't add any special characters, your backup should restore if you've renamed it. If your renamed backup is similar to mine and it still fails to restore then I recommend that you re-flash amon RA as suggested by my good friend k2buckley. Specifically, v2.3. You can download it from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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Alright thanks a lot guys it worked when I re-flashed the recovery through bootloader. For some reason, ROM manager isn't flashing recoveries for me anymore.

guih said:
Alright thanks a lot guys it worked when I re-flashed the recovery through bootloader. For some reason, ROM manager isn't flashing recoveries for me anymore.
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Some users have had issues with rom manager "not flashing correct," but I've never had a problem with it. Glad its working though.

[Q] Going from Clockwork Mod to Anon RA?

Quick question: I want to flash Anon RA recovery but I already have Clockwork mod installed, do I need to delete clockwork first or can i just flash anon ra from the bootloader no problem? i dont want to run into any problems.
Followup question: for anon ra is there a similar "rom manager" app that works with it?
Longer explanation: Ive been trying out several sense gingerbread roms and noticed how fast i max out my internal memory. I read you can partition the memory card and use an apps to sd card app to fix this, but if you try to partition with clockwork you could potentially brick the phone. even though its been addressed in later versions it looks like it has still happened a couple times and this makes me nervous. plus it seems everyone says anon ra is a better recovery anyway.
Thanks!

You can just flash amon-ra without deleting clockwork. I don't know of a rom manager app for amon-ra but its safer and more thorough to do everything manually in recovery anyway
We're comin from a pure power source.

Just flash amon ra from Rom manager, its near the bottom, I think it says "flash alternate recovery". And remember, you can't do a nand restore from ra that you made with cwm.

I have to disagree with that, sorry. The best thing to do with Rom Manager is uninstall it. Flash the AR PC36IMG.zip from the AR thread in the Dev section

thanks worked well. deleted rom manager too just to be sure

Installing Amon Ra from ROM Manager or flashing it manually doesn't matter. Either way will yield the same results. But I agree with getting rid of ROM Manager. So make it useful one time to flash Amon Ra before you delete it and then part ways.
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Just beware, in case it wasn't clear, you cannot use backups made with Clockwork on Amon and vice versa. It would be wise to immediately create a new nandroid backup when you switch over to Amon. Don't forget to make an individual Wimax nandroid backup too.

How do you get rid of backups to save space?
I created a clockwork backup but plan on switching to Amon Ra so I want to erase all unnecessary files.

custom recovery

when i rooted my evo about a week ago i followed instructions to the t for the ENERGY sense rom. i use revolution-0.4 i think that included clockwork mod for the custom recovery. i was thinking of switching to amon ra recovery. can i jsut download and flash it or will that cause problems? if so what do i need to do prior to switching recovery tools?

All you need to do to switch recoveries is download Amon Ra. Rename it to PC36IMG.zip. Then put it on the root of your sdcard. Boot into bootloader and it will ask you to update, press volume up for "yes" and bam your done. Then delete the PC36IMG.zip. (if it doesn't ask you to update when you boot into the bootloader, start your phone back up and remove the ".zip" from the recovery you renamed.
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dbenney said:
when i rooted my evo about a week ago i followed instructions to the t for the ENERGY sense rom. i use revolution-0.4 i think that included clockwork mod for the custom recovery. i was thinking of switching to amon ra recovery. can i jsut download and flash it or will that cause problems? if so what do i need to do prior to switching recovery tools?
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Remember that if you have any backups with your current recovery,theres a chance the new one will not be able to verify the MD5SUM and restore your current backups.

Diablo67 said:
Remember that if you have any backups with your current recovery,theres a chance the new one will not be able to verify the MD5SUM and restore your current backups.
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even if i copy the backups to my pc then into the amon ra back up location?

dbenney said:
even if i copy the backups to my pc then into the amon ra back up location?
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Theres a strong possibility,they are 2 different recoveries.I know from experience a few times,but then again weirder things have happened,all i can say is you can try.